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Game 139: Mets at Nats

Sep 9, 2015, 3:37 PM EDT

Mark Zuckerman / NATS INSIDER

After blowing two straight games to begin the series, the Nationals will now hope to avoid a sweep to the New York Mets on Wednesday with a true wild card as a pitching matchup.

There is a lot of unknown there because Stephen Strasburg (8-6, 4.35) is coming back from injury. He left his last start on Aug. 30 with tightness in his upper back and will be pitching for the first time in 10 days.

Strasburg has faced the Mets twice this season with a mixed bag of results. He has allowed eight runs (5 ER) in 10 2/3 total innings against New York.

Cy Young-candidate Jacob deGrom (12-7, 2.40) will start for the Mets. He is 1-2 with a 3.47 ERA in four starts against the Nats this season.

The Nationals will have their work cut out for them against deGrom, as Ryan Zimmerman, Michael Taylor and Yunel Escobar are all out of the lineup. Zim is dealing with a left oblique injury and Taylor has been playing through a sore right knee. But Escobar being out is a curious one. We’ll find out why as soon as we can.

UPDATE: Taylor is dealing with swelling in his right knee due to an injury to a bursa sac. Escobar is out with a fever that reached 103 degrees on Tuesday night.

Please check back for updates…

NEW YORK METS at WASHINGTON NATIONALS
Where: Nationals Park
Gametime: 7:05 p.m. EDT
TV: ESPN, MASN2, MLB.tv
Radio: 106.7 FM, 1500 AM, XM 183/857
Weather: Mostly cloudy, 88 degrees, Wind 6 mph in from RF

NATIONALS (71-67)
RF Jayson Werth
2B Danny Espinosa
CF Bryce Harper
3B Anthony Rendon
1B Clint Robinson
SS Ian Desmond
C Wilson Ramos
LF Matt den Dekker
RHP Stephen Strasburg

METS (77-61)
RF Curtis Granderson
CF Yoenis Cespedes
2B Daniel Murphy
3B David Wright
1B Lucas Duda
C Travis d’Arnaud
LF Michael Conforto
SS Wilmer Flores
RHP Jacob deGrom

UMPIRES
HP Mike Estabrook
1B Ed Hickox
2B Paul Nauert
3B Dan DeMuth (cc)

7:08 p.m. — And we’re underway. There have been some clouds in the area, and they had the tarp ready to roll out earlier but the rain hasn’t come yet, so we’re starting on time with a ball from Stephen Strasburg to Curtis Granderson.

7:26 p.m. — Strasburg looked pretty sharp during a 10-pitch top of the first, the only damage off him Yoenis Cespedes’ infield single. And Bryce Harper looked plenty sharp in the bottom of the inning, somehow turning on a high-and-inside, 97-mph fastball from Jacob deGrom and sending it soaring into the right-field bullpen for his 35th homer of the season. The Nats made deGrom throw 21 pitches in the inning, not a bad start for them vs. the tough right-hander.

7:40 p.m. — Strasburg still looked sharp in the second inning, with one major exception: a first-pitch fastball up to Travis d’Arnaud that wound up in the left-field bullpen. That was another case of bad fastball location coming back to haunt Strasburg (and the Nats as a whole, for that matter). The Mets have been really aggressive so far, with Strasburg throwing only 21 pitches to eight batters. The aggressive approach could help them get good pitches to hit, but it also could keep his overall count low. We’ll see. 1-1 after two.

7:55 p.m. — Strasburg struck out the side in the third, all on curveballs, and he’s still only at 33 pitches. However, deGrom has found his groove as well, and has allowed only Harper’s homer so far. He’s at 43 pitches. Still 1-1 after three.

8:13 p.m. — A couple of impressive at-bats tonight from Harper, who followed up his first-inning homer with a double to the gap on another 97-mph fastball from deGrom, this time down in the zone. Then after advancing to third with one out, Harper scored on Clint Robinson’s opposite-field single, another nice piece of hitting. The Nats had a chance to really do something in the bottom of the fourth, but Robinson’s foot came off the bag ever so slightly trying to go first-to-third on Desmond’s single to right. That spoiled the chance of a big inning. Nonetheless, the Nats lead 2-1 after four, with Strasburg having struck out five of the last six batters he’s faced.

8:32 p.m. — Boy, has Strasburg’s curveball been devastating tonight, or what? He has now retired 11 in a row, 7 of them via strikeout. He’s at 63 pitches through five innings. Which, given the state of the Nats bullpen, could be very important tonight. Nats still lead 2-1 after five.

Chase here taking over for Mark as he works on his game story

8:51 p.m. — The game remains at 2-1 as both pitchers continued to cruise through the sixth inning. Strasburg allowed a walk to Granderson, but that was it. He notched two more strikeouts and now has nine in the game. deGrom needed 18 pitches in the sixth, but was not threatened whatsoever. On to the seventh we go as deGrom sits at 94 pitches and Strasburg goes back out there at 77.

9:08 p.m. — We are still locked at 2-1 as the pitchers’ duel has continued. Strasburg added three more strikeouts to have 12 through seven innings on 91 pitches. His career-high remains 14, set on June 8, 2010. I don’t think I have to tell you why that day was significant. deGrom recorded two more strikeouts and has nine in total. He’s thrown 102, so we’ll see if that’s it for him.

9:34 p.m. — The eighth inning was an absolute disaster and once again Drew Storen played a role. Strasburg first gave up the game-tying hit on a home run by Kelly Johnson, who pinch-hit. Matt Williams then replaced Strasburg with Storen two batters later. Storen came in to face, of all players, Cespedes, who cleared the bases with a double off of him the night before. Cespedes took one pitch for a ball before absolutely destroying a two-run homer to the visitors bullpen in left-center. That put the Mets up 4-2. The Nats would get a run back on a solo homer by Harper, his second of the night. It actually came off his former teammate, Tyler Clippard. It’s now 4-3 Mets as the Nats will turn to Jonathan Papelbon for the ninth.

9:48 p.m. — den Dekker pops out to LF and that will do it. Mets sweep the Nats. Another tough loss for the Nationals.

  1. Eugene in Oregon - Sep 9, 2015 at 3:43 PM

    I hope the Nats win and I’m sure I’ll check in on the game as it progresses. But hard to treat as ‘must see’ as I had hoped/expected.

  2. Kim M - Sep 9, 2015 at 3:50 PM

    I assume Matt Williams finally came to his senses and figured out Espinosa/Rendon a stronger defensive combination.

    • Section 222 - Sep 9, 2015 at 5:35 PM

      Nah. Esco is hurt.

    • Section 222 - Sep 9, 2015 at 5:36 PM

      Sorry, not hurt. Sick.

  3. Doc - Sep 9, 2015 at 3:52 PM

    After blowing the 7-1 , I think that I’ll pass on this one.

  4. alexva6 - Sep 9, 2015 at 3:58 PM

    if they come out and play an inspired game I will be pleasantly surprised.

    GYFNG!

  5. langleyclub - Sep 9, 2015 at 4:05 PM

    Ryan Zimmerman has missed 3 of the Nats last 4 games, during a time when players must play though injury. With another couple of losses, would think that the Nats will shut him down for the season. Over the last two weeks, RZ has demonstrated that he can carry a team when he is hot, but that he is too injury prone for a long-term deal. Over the last two years, he has played in about half of the Nats’ games. I don’t see that trend improving as he is now north of 30.

    • Nats Fan Zee - Sep 9, 2015 at 4:11 PM

      I’m good with letting Ross, MAT and Zim rest. Why not?

      • jd - Sep 9, 2015 at 4:18 PM

        rest?

        In 3 weeks everyone can rest all they want.

    • Hiram Hover - Sep 9, 2015 at 4:14 PM

      he is too injury prone for a long-term deal.

      Of course the Nats would not sign him to a long term deal now. But that is water under the bridge at this point.

  6. robertrobert104 - Sep 9, 2015 at 4:08 PM

    My guess for tonight: Strasburg out of the game in the third (another injury of course…), hitters will be clueless against De Grom (since one third of the lineup is out) , and Matt Williams will use Janssen, Storen and Treinen as relievers….ah geeez…..

    Sarcasm is the only thing left for Nats fans…

  7. moozystar - Sep 9, 2015 at 4:26 PM

    I will be in my seats (sec 209) and cheering for whomever is in the Nats uniform! Including Drew (although I doubt he will be available) Baseball is an awesome game and I am still thankful that we have a team. I am thankful that the team is good enough that at least for now, any season they don’t make the playoffs is considered a disappointment.

    Am I upset when we get crushed, sure. but it beats the heck out of having nobody to be disappointed by. I’d still rather have these Nats then no team and I’d rather have this ownership and leadership group then the circus of NY or Miami any day!

    I’ve been there since ’05 and I’ll be back next year. We have a good team (not great) and a good fan base (despite some peoples recent comments.) It could be a lot worse so lets enjoy a game tonight! Go NATS!

    • Hiram Hover - Sep 9, 2015 at 4:31 PM

      +1 for the positivity!

    • hokiepokster92 - Sep 9, 2015 at 4:40 PM

      It’s been a disappointing year for sure but this organization is in far better shape than it was when Rizzo first took over. It’s been a contending team for four years straight with more promising talent coming through the pipeline.

      It’s still a young franchise (I consider the Expos move here to be a franchise reboot since it was ravaged of talent at every level by MLB). It did not have the benefit of an expansion draft available to new entries into MLB.

      They weren’t eliminated in 2013 until the last week of the season. Hopefully they’ll keep competing though losses like last night are very tough to recover from. I’ll keep watching and rooting until they’re told to go home. Then look forward to 2016 (it comes fast!)

      • dryw4nats - Sep 9, 2015 at 4:50 PM

        Thanks to all of the above for finding something positive. The last two games have been hard (what’s harder than hard, anyway?) to take, but I am a Nats fan to my bones, and if I could endure 200+ losses in 2 seasons, I can endure a massive pennant race choke. There may not be joy in Mudville right now, but maybe there can be joy again at some point!

    • Nats Fan Zee - Sep 9, 2015 at 5:13 PM

      Section 209 …. nice seats. The wife loves the club seats but the boy (no foul balls) does not. One day he will.

      Enjoy the game!

  8. rickdaoust - Sep 9, 2015 at 4:26 PM

    Since Nats are playing Little league Ball they need to stop after 6 innings. Maybe that’s the issue… Bunch of cry baby chokers playing LL Ball. No wonder fans leave once the 7th starts…

  9. micksback1 - Sep 9, 2015 at 5:14 PM

    Five back with 23 to go if Nats can win. That would be the bottom line and would not sound as impossible as it feels right now.

    The remaining 24 games will show the bottom line without exception, that is simply are there enough players on this current roster who are winners and will battle. If this team tanks and many of these same guys are back in 2016, the Nats then join the ranks of another pathetic and losing DC sports franchise. If the team tanks, there is NO JUSTIFICATION for MW to be here in 2016!

  10. jfmii - Sep 9, 2015 at 5:21 PM

    I just don’t think that much of Storen’s troubles were caused by his being rattled by the Papelbon trade. Look at his appearances starting with the CarGo home run — which was a couple fine performances AFTER the Papelbon trade. He has been horrible almost every time out since. Doesn’t make sense to blame all of the ineptitude on the trade. Something else, physical, having to do with mechanics, etc, something like what Scherzer has gone through is maybe what has happened to Storen.

    • NatsLady - Sep 9, 2015 at 5:33 PM

      I’d think that too, except Storen’s had great outings mixed in with the terrible ones. And he really looked rattled last night, with the wild pitch, and the almost-wild-pitches.

      My theory on Max is that it’s health-related, in some way that we don’t know (and may never know)–something is hindering him and he thinks it’s mechanics but you would feel that if it were, between McCatty and video and Max being a veteran they could figure it out.

      It could be health with Storen. But it could also be pressure, the pressure of the pennant race, of seeing Clippard’s success (and perhaps feeling he has to compete with that)–maybe he’s got a sports form of traumatic stress.

  11. janebeard - Sep 9, 2015 at 5:21 PM

    Wow. It’s the baseball apocalypse. No Denard, sure. But now no Michael A, no Escobar (I’m glad Danny is in) and no bridge to the end of the game is Stras doesn’t hold on for long. Man I hope they can pull it out tonight!

    • micksback1 - Sep 9, 2015 at 5:25 PM

      Along with MW, John Philbin and Cat need to go too. The injuries are also a lack of conditioning, not so much Michael and Yunel, but everyone else’s injuries are a lack of conditioning, stretching and my guess to much emphasis put on strength and not flexibility, which is the buffoon way to train This team has to many buffons as their trainers and coaches.

  12. jfmii - Sep 9, 2015 at 5:22 PM

    It is a drag that Zim is out of the lineup again.

  13. micksback1 - Sep 9, 2015 at 5:25 PM

    3-1 count on Rendon who as 2 of 4 . Verse a 99mph fast ball pitcher. A good manager takes the bunt sign off and makes Familia throw strike 2 PERIOD.

    It would have been 2 on with zero outs and with Harper up, maybe he still walks loading the bases with zero outs or maybe Familia has to pitch to him. That option was gone because Stooge, no account Williams strikes again!

    Of course this no account clown of a manager takes NO responsibility in the post game. He never once admits a mistake that is why he sucks and this team sucks!

  14. NatsLady - Sep 9, 2015 at 5:26 PM

    Not going to comment on the bunt. I did think, however, that Matty should have brought Storen in instead of Rivero. He didn’t have him warming, but he could have, he needed to think of it SOONER. This has been his problem as I see it, not that he doesn’t learn or think, but that he has too much to learn and he thinks too slowly. He needed to think of bringing Storen in for four outs ahead of time.

    Now, Storen might still have trashed the place (although there would have been less to trash at the time). It’s really hard to figure what’s wrong with him. You would imagine that he’d want to be the hero. Get that strikeout and the place would be cheering like mad for him!!!! I remember when he was first coming back from injury, he would be like a ROOGY, coming in with the bases loaded to get Wright out or some other key out. What happened to THAT Storen?

    My boss gave me a free ticket (Sec 232) and hot dogs are $1 so I’m going. I’ll totally be sleep-deprived at work tonight. I figure if I don’t go to every game I can, I’ll regret it in the winter. I’m gonna enjoy the hot humid evening, sit through the rain delay, and see if our boys can scrape out a win.

    I feel for them. Everyone of them is playing sore and tired. Heaven knows what Michael A’s knee feels like, I doubt if Escobar’s wrist has ever healed. Anthony looks exhausted. Etc. Etc. And they have to watch helplessly as the pitchers blow it night after night. If it isn’t Max and his home runs, it’s the bullpen and its walks. Five runs aren’t enough, SEVEN runs aren’t enough!

    Time to regroup. Gotta practically win out, and hope the Mets sag. I’m with Jayson. It ain’t over. Just have to fight harder for it.

    • jfmii - Sep 9, 2015 at 5:33 PM

      Sorry, but I disagree. Storen has just been bad, period. And he has been much less effective than Rivero — other than Rivero’s last two disasters. Rivero and Treinan really let them down last night, but I don’t think it mattered much, because Storen eventually was going to get his turn, and whenever he pitches these days he gets whacked around. Something is wrong and it ain’t Papelbon.

      • NatsLady - Sep 9, 2015 at 5:36 PM

        Well, there’s no doubt that’s true, and unfortunately, it’s unpredictable, because Storen will put together two or three good outings and then one of these–although this one has to be the worst. Do you think it’s health, then, or mental?

      • jfmii - Sep 9, 2015 at 5:51 PM

        NatsLady, I may be remembering wrong, but he has not put up more than one or two decent outings since the CarGo disaster, has he? Just awful. And I do think it is more physical than mental, and to the extent it is mental, I don’t necessarily think it is because of the trade.

    • Section 222 - Sep 9, 2015 at 5:56 PM

      Beware those $1 hot dogs. They are about the size of my index finger, and I have normal size hands.

    • edgs3rd1978 - Sep 9, 2015 at 6:14 PM

      I agree! We can still do this!

      With the way the Mets have been playing since the trading deadline, they are projected to finish the last 24 games by going 16-8. We simply need to go 20-2 and then we can settle this in a tiebreaker game!

  15. jfmii - Sep 9, 2015 at 5:28 PM

    The August and September 2015 Nationals remind me of of the 07 Mets in the same closing months. Bullpen collapses to go along with mediocre starting pitching. Reyes, Beltran, Delgado and Wright were killin’ it, but they couldn’t stop anyone (including the Nationals 6 times in those last 17) from scoring lots of runs.

  16. micksback1 - Sep 9, 2015 at 5:29 PM

    Sorry gang, maybe I am a conspiracy buff here but Michael seemed pretty damn good running the bases last night. This franchise may be making these injuries up so that they have an excuse to QUIT. This makes me sick. is this how Rizzo gets MW off the hook?? Injuries. Please, this is insulting to every season ticket holder of which I have been one since 2010!!!

    • NatsLady - Sep 9, 2015 at 5:40 PM

      I disagree with you so much on this, Mick, that I don’t even know where to begin. I think every player is banged up, and some more than others, and I REALLY REALLY don’t think Michael A is making up an injury. I think he ran the bases on adrenaline, pure and simple, and he’s paying for that.

      • micksback1 - Sep 9, 2015 at 5:43 PM

        Michael is making nothing up, I am saying the Nats are using his aches and pains to hold him out. Michael aside, you don’t find it disturbing at how many injuries this team has in one season as well as the same players like RZim who are constantly on the DL, not just this season but every season?

    • jfmii - Sep 9, 2015 at 5:43 PM

      A stretch. I hope Williams goes, though not as badly as you. And really, he isn’t the reason they have underperformed this year, just as he wasn’t the reason why they won 96 last year.

    • NatsLady - Sep 9, 2015 at 5:45 PM

      And I didn’t buy a Michael Taylor shirt yesterday because they want $32 for it and that’s a lot of money for me. HOWEVER, I’m going to buy it today, and eat rice cakes for a week or two. He’s one of my favorite players and he’s going to be a star and he is NOT faking an injury!!!!!

      • micksback1 - Sep 9, 2015 at 5:48 PM

        he has become my favorite too and I did not say HE was faking an injury!

    • Hiram Hover - Sep 9, 2015 at 6:07 PM

      Sorry gang, maybe I am a conspiracy buff here

      Sorry, but that’s where I stopped reading.

      • sunshinebobby - Sep 9, 2015 at 8:43 PM

        Mick a conspiracy buff? Just because he thinks he saw Matt Williams on the grassy knoll in Dallas in 1963?
        Nah.
        He’s just tuned to a different frequency than the rest of us.
        A way different frequency.

    • edgs3rd1978 - Sep 9, 2015 at 6:09 PM

      I think he could use that excuse had the Nats been stricken moreso than what their fans allude to. Look what Rubin/Matz posted on ESPN today…

      According to the website ManGamesLost.com, which uses a metric called Time Missed Impact To Team (TMITT) to gauge injury impact, the Nationals rank eighth in TMITT, three spots behind … yep, you guessed it … the Mets.

      You guys need to stop finding excuses (umpires, injuries, quick pitches, etc.). You did not give anything away nor was it given away, the Mets came in and took it.

  17. natslive - Sep 9, 2015 at 5:42 PM

    Please Mick…MAT has had a bad knee since hitting the wall, I think he probably aggravated it running the bases last night, no conspiracy theory.

    • micksback1 - Sep 9, 2015 at 5:44 PM

      Believe me, I hope you are right and I am not accusing Michael of anything, see my post above

      • NatsLady - Sep 9, 2015 at 5:55 PM

        Yes, you did. You said QUOTE “Michael seemed pretty damn good running the bases last night. This franchise may be making these injuries up so that they have an excuse to QUIT.”

        “This franchise” includes Michael. You are either accusing him of exaggerating (faking) his injury or of being a quitter. Or you are saying he LET other people say he was injured when he isn’t, which amounts to the same thing. Read your own words. I’m done. I have no idea why I ever read your posts. I always regret it.

      • jd - Sep 9, 2015 at 5:56 PM

        Mick,

        When you start talking about injuries, training etc. I am pretty sure that you like me are out of your league. Unless I am mistaken I don’t think you are a doctor and I am pretty sure you haven’t examined any of the injured players. You think Ryan is faking it playing his heart out and carrying the team on his shoulders? you think Stras is faking it? you try to go out there and throw 95 MPH with a sore back.

        I agree with most of your criticism regarding MW and Mc.Catty (though not with your blunt approach but when it comes to medical issues I leave that to the people who went to medical school.

  18. jfmii - Sep 9, 2015 at 5:57 PM

    I hear you NatsLady

  19. pchuck69 - Sep 9, 2015 at 5:59 PM

    This lineup has a much better right-left balance which is good when going up against a right handed, power pitcher.

  20. paulfortier - Sep 9, 2015 at 6:01 PM

    I follow the Expos-Nationals since 1969. I was 10 years old when the Expos franchise was created. Since that, I follow them and follow them even if the moved in your wonderful city. One summer, I don’t remember which one, our local radio station stopped broadcasting the Espos’s games. So I had to drive 1 hour to catch their games… on the radio. Did I say that I love this team? I saw Steve Rogers allowing the dramatic homerun to Rick Monday. I saw very good teams and very bad ones. But yesterday was the most painful game I ever watch in the history of this franchise. I don’t know any Expos manager, from Gene Mauch to Dick Williams to Felipe Alou who would allow the collapse of the seventh. Yeah, Matt Williams was a good player, with guts and passion and so on. But he seems brainless. He seems he is lacking of any sport athlete psychology. Having Storen choking again without any reliever warming up in the bullpen… My gosh. But I am crazy and I will watch the game tomorrow. It takes love and a little bit of masochism to support a team during all his entire life. Love you, NatsInsider friends.

    Merci beaucoup

    • jfmii - Sep 9, 2015 at 6:05 PM

      I have to say, that post brought a few tears to my eyes. That was just wonderful, thank you, paulfortier.

    • Nats Fan Zee - Sep 9, 2015 at 7:51 PM

      Thank you paulfortier … Great comments 😉

  21. paulfortier - Sep 9, 2015 at 6:03 PM

    editing : tomorrow – I meant tonight. I apologize for my typos.

  22. jfmii - Sep 9, 2015 at 6:10 PM

    paulfortier reminds of a thought I had while watching Storen melt down with no one up in the bullpen. It is a stretch but given some of the crazy stuff I read here, might as well throw it out there:

    I thought that maybe MW, as Rizzo’s extension, he was punishing Storen for acting like a baby when they got Papelbon. Something like, “well we don’t have many options, and while obviously you can’t throw a strike, and we should have someone warming up, I’m just going to let you hand out to dry out there.” Put an exclamation point on his failure to get anyone out.

  23. rmoore446 - Sep 9, 2015 at 6:13 PM

    Reading Chase’s pregame above, I scratched my head at: “Strasburg has faced the Nats twice this season with a mixed bag of results.”

    Again, as a long-ago newspaper writer, I know the necessity of careful proofreading. I’m reasonably certain that Strasburg has not faced the Nats this season.

  24. exposremains - Sep 9, 2015 at 6:44 PM

    Bud Black for manager. No more 1st year manager.
    You remember the other time Rizzo overlooked building a good bullpen. 2013. Not impressed by his roster building. Character guys that I guess are nice but can’t deal with pressure. 2 division title in 4 years. No playoff win. Other gms are good traders and drafters as well. Royals, astros, pirates come to mind. They turn things around quickly.

    • knoxvillenat - Sep 9, 2015 at 8:20 PM

      I’ll grant you that the Royals won the AL last season and went all the way to a game 7 in the World Series, but as for the Astros and Pirates tell me what they have won that Rizzo and the Nats haven’t? I don’t recall either of those teams having any more success than the Nationals in the past three seasons.

      • exposremains - Sep 9, 2015 at 8:33 PM

        My point was more that those were losing franchises that became good quickly. A lot of people say Rizzo turn this franchise around implying that is the only gm capable of that. Any respectable gm with money and a bunch 1st round pick because they were terrible could have done what he did.

      • knoxvillenat - Sep 9, 2015 at 9:03 PM

        I don’t think the Pirates or the Astros became “good quickly”. In fact I think the Pirates had a history of something like 18-20 losing seasons in a row before they had a winning season a couple of years ago.

        As for Rizzo most fans here compliment him and credit him with turning the franchise around and IMHO, rightfully so. However they are not so blind to believe that he was the ONLY general manager capable of doing so but rather that he is/was the one who did accomplish that. The challenge to Rizzo and staff is now to take the Nationals to the next level of a league championship winner and World Series participant.

      • exposremains - Sep 9, 2015 at 9:15 PM

        I’m just not one of the In Rizzo we trust guy. He’s had some good trades. I think the draft was ok after the 1st round.Lots of misses. The bullpen has been terrible and playing almost the entire team out of ppsition. Not smart.

      • exposremains - Sep 9, 2015 at 9:18 PM

        I talked about the bullpen being bad in April. Everybody told me its early they ll get better. They ll win the division, its a done deal.

  25. adcwonk - Sep 9, 2015 at 7:30 PM

    Criticisms are deserved, but can we stop with the “gutless” comments? Y’all have no idea what’s going on inside their guts (unless you can psychoanalyze from a distance). MAT played the last few innings on a bum knee, Escobar got his despite finishing the game with a temp of 103. Enough with the “gutless” comments.

    • knoxvillenat - Sep 9, 2015 at 8:17 PM

      +25

  26. Joe Seamhead - Sep 9, 2015 at 8:34 PM

    Hell, I’m still horse from cheering so hard for the Nats last night. And I think Corona is nothing but Budweiser made with Mexican river water. Keep drinking it and you get brain damage. And I have no idea if anybody is faking an injury. And I am pretty sure that the Nats fan in me is on life support.

  27. derwink - Sep 9, 2015 at 8:40 PM

    Hey sec112, just referring to my post asking whether or not MW was as even keeled as his quotes sound. I was just asking…not saying I want him to be that way.

    Everyone is calling for his job but I want to understand MW better. His quotes make him sound very even keeled, which is good over a long season.

    But I just wanted to know if there was a little fire in there somewhere.

    Oh, and I’m a basketball fan dabbling as a baseball fan. 😀

    • adcwonk - Sep 9, 2015 at 9:09 PM

      He certainly seems even keeled, although I don’t think that was his reputation as a player. But you need even-keeled (at least _most_ of the time) as a manager.

      OTOH, here’s a pic of him in a recent SI article:

      So, yeah, there seems a little fire in there somewhere 😉

      • derwink - Sep 9, 2015 at 9:20 PM

        Thanks, Wonk.

        I remember reading how he would even get in Bond’s face. But then his quotes sound monotone almost.

        I’m just trying to get a better read on him before calling for his head.

  28. Joe Seamhead - Sep 9, 2015 at 8:54 PM

    Lucky Stras. Unlucky Wright. It’s in the book as a backwards K.

  29. Joe Seamhead - Sep 9, 2015 at 8:57 PM

    And this has been a quality start by Strasburg.

  30. Joe Seamhead - Sep 9, 2015 at 9:08 PM

    Oh, and I cheer for Matt denDekker but he is not a kid, baseball eise. He is 28 years old. Just sayin’

    • adcwonk - Sep 9, 2015 at 9:10 PM

      Given his experience and looks, it _seems_ that way. (And Christian Yelich and MAT both look about age 16 or so) 😉

  31. adcwonk - Sep 9, 2015 at 9:11 PM

    So, suppose SS gets into trouble in the 8th — who do you y’all bring in?

    And who do you bring in for the 9th?

    All you folks who think you can do better than MW — venture some thoughts before the fact! 😉

    • Joe Seamhead - Sep 9, 2015 at 9:16 PM

      Me? I say praise the Lord and pass the ammunition.

  32. joemktg - Sep 9, 2015 at 9:17 PM

    my god

  33. Joe Seamhead - Sep 9, 2015 at 9:17 PM

    Oh, boy. Pass the ammunition.

  34. veejh - Sep 9, 2015 at 9:18 PM

    lolStoren

  35. Drew - Sep 9, 2015 at 9:18 PM

    I hope Williams and Storen are renting.

    • Joe Seamhead - Sep 9, 2015 at 9:33 PM

      Post of the night!

  36. veejh - Sep 9, 2015 at 9:19 PM

    You can’t make this season up. What a full on disaster.

  37. exposremains - Sep 9, 2015 at 9:20 PM

    So glad im not watching the game.it was a good decision. Just saw the score change. Saves me the aggravation.

  38. Joe Seamhead - Sep 9, 2015 at 9:20 PM

    Now Storen will pin a stupid loss on Strasburg.

    • veejh - Sep 9, 2015 at 9:21 PM

      Does it matter anymore?

      • Joe Seamhead - Sep 9, 2015 at 9:24 PM

        As stupid as the wins and losses stat is, never believe that they are meaningless to a starting pitcher.

  39. dc27dan - Sep 9, 2015 at 9:22 PM

    At least tonight he remembered how to throw a strike.

  40. veejh - Sep 9, 2015 at 9:23 PM

    Start resting whoever is going to be on the team next year right now. Whoever needs surgery, do it now. Enough of this season and all its negativity.

  41. philipd763 - Sep 9, 2015 at 9:23 PM

    Good thing there’s no crying in baseball!

  42. veejh - Sep 9, 2015 at 9:26 PM

    3 Ks for Espi? The ship has sailed.

  43. Elkton Manny - Sep 9, 2015 at 9:28 PM

    Anyone not see that comig?

  44. Joe Seamhead - Sep 9, 2015 at 9:28 PM

    I have used some very bad words describing Drew Storen.

    • knoxvillenat - Sep 9, 2015 at 9:30 PM

      Say three Hail Mary’s.

  45. unkyd59 - Sep 9, 2015 at 9:30 PM

    Attaboy, Bryce…. I see you…

  46. Drew - Sep 9, 2015 at 9:32 PM

    9 to reach 100 at age 22.

    664 from Henry Aaron.

  47. raleighnat - Sep 9, 2015 at 9:45 PM

    this is like a dark comedy. Let the autopsy begin.

    • raleighnat - Sep 9, 2015 at 9:48 PM

      In a way it seems fitting to choke again just to make the point made last night abundantly clear.

      • adcwonk - Sep 9, 2015 at 9:58 PM

        If we repeat “I get it! I get it!” 100 times, will they stop? 😉

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