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Game 112: Nats at Dodgers

Aug 11, 2015, 7:10 PM EDT

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The Nationals did their part last night in winning their series opener against the Dodgers. Now we find out if that carries over at all to tonight’s contest, in which they’ll be facing a far more imposing man on the mound: Zack Greinke.

Greinke dominated the Nats three weeks ago, holding them to three hits over eight innings to extend his scoreless-inning streak. He did, however, get roughed up in his last outing by the Phillies, who scored five runs in the first inning and wound up with six total runs in six innings against the right-hander.

Joe Ross, meanwhile, gets the ball for the Nationals, the rookie having essentially displaced Doug Fister in the rotation for the foreseeable future. Ross has yet to face the Dodgers, so he should hold an advantage in that regard. He’s also looking to extend a fairly remarkable streak: He has yet to allow more than three earned runs in any of his seven big-league starts to date.

UPDATE AT 8:05 P.M. — Bryce Harper has been scratched from the Nats lineup with left knee soreness. Ryan Zimmerman gets bumped up to the No. 3 spot, with Clint Robinson now batting cleanup and starting in right field.

Enjoy the game and the late-night conversation…

WASHINGTON NATIONALS at LOS ANGELES DODGERS
Where: Dodger Stadium, Los Angeles
Gametime: 10:10 p.m. EDT
TV: MASN, MLB.tv
Radio: 106.7 FM, 1500 AM, XM 183/869
Weather: Clear, 72 degrees, Wind 6 mph out to CF

NATIONALS (58-53)
3B Yunel Escobar
2B Anthony Rendon
RF Bryce Harper
1B Ryan Zimmerman
RF Clint Robinson
LF Jayson Werth
SS Ian Desmond
C Wilson Ramos
CF Michael Taylor
RHP Joe Ross

DODGERS (62-50)
SS Jimmy Rollins
3B Alberto Callaspo
1B Adrian Gonzalez
LF Andre Ethier
C Yasmani Grandal
RF Yasiel Puig
CF Joc Pederson
2B Kiké Hernandez
RHP Zack Greinke

UMPIRES
HP C.B. Bucknor
1B Dan Iassogna
2B Lance Barrett
3B Dale Scott (cc)

351 Comments (Feed for Comments)
  1. manassasnatsfan - Aug 11, 2015 at 7:20 PM

    Go Nats.

    By the way NY overturned a call in Toronto. The overturn was easy.

    Worse part of course first base ump emphatically called runner out, when with the naked eye looked safe, and replay verified.

    Got to love an empganic wrong call.who was the ump? Jeff Kellog home plate ump at Nats Park Friday. Was terrible then too.

    • Another_Sam - Aug 11, 2015 at 7:31 PM

      I think that the replay system has been a failure. It doesn’t assure that all calls are correct. It just enables reversal of some calls. And the delays are hideous. I say use the replay to evaluate all – not just reviewable calls – and discipline poor umpires swiftly and harshly.

  2. everendp - Aug 11, 2015 at 7:24 PM

    Kurt Suzuki: “Seasoned MLB hitters should have different strike zones”

    http://mweb.cbssports.com/mlb/eye-on-baseball/25265905/kurt-suzuki-seasoned-mlb-hitters-should-have-different-strike-zones

    Discuss…

    • therealjohnc - Aug 11, 2015 at 8:05 PM

      Kurt Suzuki is wrong.

    • Ghost of Steve M. - Aug 11, 2015 at 10:02 PM

      Maybe Kurt Suzuki thinks he deserves a smaller strike zone. That’s an integrity issue to me. One more reason we might be ready for robo K

  3. legnatsfan - Aug 11, 2015 at 7:33 PM

    Does anyone know why Bryce was scratched from tonight’s line-up?

    • dryw4nats - Aug 11, 2015 at 7:49 PM

      I don’t know, but Yunel was scratched with illness a couple of days ago, and I heard rumor that Matt was coming down with the same thing. All right before a nice, long, cross-country flight with everyone breathing in each others’ germs…

    • ArVAFan - Aug 11, 2015 at 7:56 PM

      Well, we can safely guess it isn’t a hangover.

    • Allnats - Aug 11, 2015 at 8:03 PM

      I saw left knee soreness. Not to panic, but isnt that the knee he had surgery on a couple years ago?

      • Sec 3, My Sofa - Aug 11, 2015 at 9:17 PM

        Perhaps that’s why they’re being careful.

    • Doc - Aug 11, 2015 at 9:17 PM

      Neat article, NL.

      Thanks!

  4. Nats105 - Aug 11, 2015 at 7:50 PM

    MLB showing Harper not in lineup.

    • Sec 3, My Sofa - Aug 11, 2015 at 8:09 PM

      http://m.mlb.com/news/article/142487778/todays-starting-lineups-aug-11

      Washington Nationals @ Los Angeles Dodgers, 10:10 P.M. ET
      Nationals
      3B: Yunel Escobar
      2B: Anthony Rendon
      1B: Ryan Zimmerman
      RF: Clint Robinson
      LF: Jayson Werth
      SS: Ian Desmond
      C: Wilson Ramos
      CF: Michael A. Taylor
      SP: Joe Ross

      • unkyd59 - Aug 11, 2015 at 8:54 PM

        Werth AND Robinson in the corners…. Not funny. Glad it’s too late for me to watch….

  5. Doc - Aug 11, 2015 at 9:20 PM

    Whoever in the NI ranks gave Joe Ross the nickname of ‘Joe Cool’ deserves an award.

    Keep thinking that the broadcasters might start using it.

  6. scnatsfan - Aug 11, 2015 at 9:25 PM

    It worked last night so again I go to bed tonight hoping to read about a new curly W in the AM

  7. Mrsb loves the Nats - Aug 11, 2015 at 9:26 PM

    I hope Harvey pitches 8/9 innings each and every time he goes on the mound every 5 days. Thor and DeGrom too….

    Evening folks…

    • BatBoy - Aug 11, 2015 at 10:10 PM

      Yep!

  8. manassasnatsfan - Aug 11, 2015 at 9:46 PM

    Boone Logan looked like Mariano Rivera against us. Looks more HRod vs the Mets

  9. nattygoats - Aug 11, 2015 at 9:47 PM

    Unlike the Nats the Mets are getting fat on the Rockies with no problem.

    • Ghost of Steve M. - Aug 11, 2015 at 9:50 PM

      It was 1-0 until 2 outs in the 8th. Boone Logan once again couldn’t get Granderson out.

    • manassasnatsfan - Aug 11, 2015 at 9:56 PM

      Fat is not the word, but they are hitting them.

      • Ghost of Steve M. - Aug 11, 2015 at 10:03 PM

        Drew Storen was the problem, not the Nats bats.

    • manassasnatsfan - Aug 11, 2015 at 9:58 PM

      Just for the record Nats hitters didn’t have a problem they scored 14 runs or 4.67 a game.

      Mets 8 runs in 2 games or 4.00

      Difference has been the Rockies bullpen pitched well against us, and poorly against the Mets.

      • rlndtln - Aug 11, 2015 at 9:59 PM

        Maybe some of you guys know why you need a 5 man bench now.

    • manassasnatsfan - Aug 11, 2015 at 10:01 PM

      Time for us to win again.

  10. stoatva - Aug 11, 2015 at 10:00 PM

    It would be a really great idea for the Nats to find a way to win this baseball game. I care not how.

    • manassasnatsfan - Aug 11, 2015 at 10:04 PM

      No reason not to. You have to just win games.

      Want to prove you good you must beat the star pitchers. Or you are not worthy of being called among the best.

  11. manassasnatsfan - Aug 11, 2015 at 10:03 PM

    I forgot Harper bitching about Grainke’s strike zone.

    Interesting. Neither play they showed on the replay really didn’t do much to the knee. A night off.

  12. rlndtln - Aug 11, 2015 at 10:03 PM

    Manass.The real difference is the Mets pitching all the way around.Mets pen 3innings 2 games no runs and I think 9up and 9 down.They have shut down the Rockies offense as we watched balls fly into the upper deck.

    • Ghost of Steve M. - Aug 11, 2015 at 10:05 PM

      JZim and Strasburg were excellent. What is your problem?

      • stoatva - Aug 11, 2015 at 10:06 PM

        With any luck we will get a couple of early runs and he’ll run away and hide again.

      • rlndtln - Aug 11, 2015 at 10:08 PM

        Harvey was better and pitching is the BP too the last I noticed.Bottom line they won 2 close games and we lost 2.Get real that is the problem here no reality.

      • Ghost of Steve M. - Aug 11, 2015 at 10:09 PM

        That’s your reality. Answer us this, what team is your favorite team?

      • stoatva - Aug 11, 2015 at 10:11 PM

        Whover’s playing the Nats, Ghost. Whoever’ splaying the Nats.

      • Ghost of Steve M. - Aug 11, 2015 at 10:12 PM

        The Nats aren’t his team. He made that clear once before. Would just be nice to find out who he’s trolling for.

    • manassasnatsfan - Aug 11, 2015 at 10:06 PM

      Our 8th inning bullpen has been the difference. Had it pitched well we would have been fine.

    • rlndtln - Aug 11, 2015 at 10:07 PM

      Playing 2 short tonite.Maybe the genius can beg Fister to go down so we can be 1 short tommorow.What a joke.2 pinch hitters as we know Lobaton can not be used.

  13. Mrsb loves the Nats - Aug 11, 2015 at 10:07 PM

    Aight Nats…. lets do this!

  14. AlexandriaNatFan - Aug 11, 2015 at 10:13 PM

    How much you want to bet that CB Bucknor being behind the plate tonight has something to do with Harp being out of the lineup? ;). Kidding.

    • rlndtln - Aug 11, 2015 at 10:18 PM

      Ghost.Look at your comments that you can not admit that the Mets pitched better than us against the Rockies.Just be real.Playing short 2 tonite.Reality of a dumb decision.We may play Fister in the outfield tonite.

      • veejh - Aug 11, 2015 at 10:19 PM

        You are a broken record

      • Ghost of Steve M. - Aug 11, 2015 at 10:24 PM

        Only Storen and Scherzer struggled. All other Nats pitchers were exceptional.

  15. zmunchkin - Aug 11, 2015 at 10:19 PM

    WRT FPs commenting that it is too bad that Harper is not starting given what he said about Grienke’s strike zone, I just checked the gameday pitchfx data. There are 151 pitchers with at least 2000 pitches. Of those Grienke ranks 5th in terms of percent of called strikes that are balls – 45%.

    Highest ranking Nat is Gio at 15th.

    Bottom line: Harper was spot-on.

    • rlndtln - Aug 11, 2015 at 10:20 PM

      I am only realistic.

    • adcwonk - Aug 11, 2015 at 10:21 PM

      Good players often have a better eye for what’s going on than the guys who can look at stats!

    • Ghost of Steve M. - Aug 11, 2015 at 10:22 PM

      Good work Zmunchkin!

    • zmunchkin - Aug 11, 2015 at 10:54 PM

      correction – my cutoff was pitchers with more than 1000 pitches.

  16. Ghost of Steve M. - Aug 11, 2015 at 10:21 PM

    Thought for sure AGone had gone WayGone. Didn’t get that on the barrel and it still went 400 feet.

  17. adcwonk - Aug 11, 2015 at 10:22 PM

    Grienke retires the side 1-2-3 on 12 pitches.
    Joe Cool says: I can do that in 8 pitches.

  18. Mrsb loves the Nats - Aug 11, 2015 at 10:22 PM

    Whew… didnt think AG got it but Joe Ross caught a break..

  19. stoatva - Aug 11, 2015 at 10:26 PM

    I like the opposite field approaches.

  20. veejh - Aug 11, 2015 at 10:28 PM

    Little something brewing here. Sure would be nice to get a run.

  21. Mrsb loves the Nats - Aug 11, 2015 at 10:29 PM

    Come on buffalo… bring Jayson home…

  22. adcwonk - Aug 11, 2015 at 10:29 PM

    Ian in his last 20 games — .315 with 7 HR.

    And that was before his infield hit just now.

    • Ghost of Steve M. - Aug 11, 2015 at 10:31 PM

      Come on, the trolls wanted him DFA’d and they know everything these is to know.

      • adcwonk - Aug 11, 2015 at 10:31 PM

        And MW is an idiot for playing him, too!

      • Ghost of Steve M. - Aug 11, 2015 at 10:35 PM

        Well of course. In hindsight it would be easy to say Desi should have sat more in the 1st half but with Rendon on the shelf who was going to play 3rd, SS and 2nd?

      • Mrsb loves the Nats - Aug 11, 2015 at 10:35 PM

        It’s old twin, really it is.

        Again, pre ASB Desi deserved the criticism for his horrid play. Lets not rewrite history. And MW should have rested him more. Just cuz he is doing well now does not mean that his past play didn’t receive warrantee critique.

        Lets all be glad post ASB Desi is contributing to the team and leave it there.

      • Ghost of Steve M. - Aug 11, 2015 at 10:37 PM

        As I wrote, who was going to play more when Rendon was injured? The choice was Uggla. Enough said.

      • adcwonk - Aug 11, 2015 at 10:37 PM

        MrsB, you’re missing our point.

        Nobody — but nobody — disagreed that Ian was stinking up the joint in the first half.

        But Rizzo/MW, going on Ian’s track record, assumed that, given enough time, he’d regain some of his old form, and it was worth slogging through that.

        The question was not whether Ian stunk — of course he did. The question was whether to completely give up on him and DFA him.

      • Ghost of Steve M. - Aug 11, 2015 at 10:39 PM

        If MW had Rendon, Esco and a hot hitting Espi at the time it would have been an easy solution.

      • Mrsb loves the Nats - Aug 11, 2015 at 10:38 PM

        How is it hindsight when these comments were said AT THE TIME… Again, just be glad that he is finally helping the Nats as he was a black hole pre ASB.

      • Ghost of Steve M. - Aug 11, 2015 at 10:40 PM

        The point is the replacement player with Rendon out was going to be Uggla. MW didn’t have great choices.

      • Mrsb loves the Nats - Aug 11, 2015 at 10:41 PM

        No, every time Desi does something great it’s all these lamenting comments about the critiques that he deserved.

        FINALLY he is helping the team. Aren’t we all glad. When Desi was stinking it up, people were calling for rest days for him, etc. People were saying if he is going to continue to rack up errors and not help the offense sit him down. No one was wrong in saying this – whether they are a troll or not.

        Just like Ramos was stinking it up he deserved it too.

        Again, instead of all these comments, acknowledge that he is improving and just be glad he finally got on track.

      • Ghost of Steve M. - Aug 11, 2015 at 10:43 PM

        It is the people that didn’t want to bench him it was the people that wanted him DFA’d. Of course he should have had more “rest” days.

        Same problem with Span out leaves MW with few options in the outfield.

  23. Ghost of Steve M. - Aug 11, 2015 at 10:29 PM

    Maybe Greinke can throw some more wild pitches

  24. Mrsb loves the Nats - Aug 11, 2015 at 10:31 PM

    Great pitch on K to Ramos….

  25. stoatva - Aug 11, 2015 at 10:31 PM

    That was a nasty inside FB for strike three.

  26. veejh - Aug 11, 2015 at 10:35 PM

    Sooooooooo close. Good AB MAT

  27. stoatva - Aug 11, 2015 at 10:36 PM

    Oy. Gonna be another one of those bad babip nights? Let’s hope not.

  28. Mrsb loves the Nats - Aug 11, 2015 at 10:36 PM

    Dang….. robbery…Nice play Callaspo…

  29. veejh - Aug 11, 2015 at 10:39 PM

    The dreaded leadoff walk. Ugh.

  30. Ghost of Steve M. - Aug 11, 2015 at 10:41 PM

    That hurts

    “Nats Strike Zone ‏@NationalsUmp
    Call hurts #Nationals
    Ball 2 should be strike 1
    Bot 2 Ross vs Ethier
    12% call same
    2.9in from edge”

    • manassasnatsfan - Aug 11, 2015 at 10:43 PM

      Ball 1 to Puig looked like strike 2

    • Mrsb loves the Nats - Aug 11, 2015 at 10:58 PM

      Does every team have 1 of these accts? Is this run by the team?

      • Ghost of Steve M. - Aug 11, 2015 at 11:01 PM

        They have one for every team but I don’t know who runs it

  31. stoatva - Aug 11, 2015 at 10:42 PM

    Everything Ross throwing up and away. Flying open?

  32. manassasnatsfan - Aug 11, 2015 at 10:42 PM

    Joe quit pitching like Tyso who does walks a lot of people.

  33. Mrsb loves the Nats - Aug 11, 2015 at 10:45 PM

    Come on Ross.. get a DP….

  34. Mrsb loves the Nats - Aug 11, 2015 at 10:47 PM

    Nats are doing an 80s night… I may have to go… hahaha, 80s weren’t my time though…

    Wasn’t plaid really in during that time?

    • manassasnatsfan - Aug 11, 2015 at 10:52 PM

      Now a 60’s or 70’s night I would fit.

  35. kgwcoach - Aug 11, 2015 at 10:48 PM

    Great regroup Ross.

  36. stoatva - Aug 11, 2015 at 10:49 PM

    Joe my man!

  37. manassasnatsfan - Aug 11, 2015 at 10:49 PM

    Nice come back Joe.

  38. veejh - Aug 11, 2015 at 10:49 PM

    Nice poise. Way to pitch out of that jam. Ace in the making.

    • Mrsb loves the Nats - Aug 11, 2015 at 10:51 PM

      I will not lie.. although I am hopeful that the Nats somehow re-sign Jordan…. watching Joe pitch doesn’t leave me frantic IF the Nats don’t keep Jordan…

      • veejh - Aug 11, 2015 at 10:53 PM

        I don’t know if we need to handcuff ourselves on another monster contract. As much as I like JZimm, I just don’t know if it’s prudent to spend that much again.

  39. Mrsb loves the Nats - Aug 11, 2015 at 10:49 PM

    Great job Joe… got around the 2 walks…. key to that was getting apuig to fly out, imo.

    • Mrsb loves the Nats - Aug 11, 2015 at 10:50 PM

      Puig*

      • rlndtln - Aug 11, 2015 at 10:52 PM

        The biggest problem we have is the lack of left handed bats.With Span out we only have Harp and that is tough against the teams like the Mets with there young righties.

  40. adcwonk - Aug 11, 2015 at 10:50 PM

    Joe Ross — looked pretty cool after walking the first two, calmly gets 1-2-3.

    I can’t help but notice, however, that Ian went over to talk to him after the two walks.

    The little things that don’t show up in the box score. The things that result in so many of the players saying that Ian is one of the leaders of the team — even when he’s slumping.

  41. adcwonk - Aug 11, 2015 at 10:51 PM

    Stats just flashed:

    Ross has fifth best percentage of swing-and-miss of all rookie pitchers this year.

    • manassasnatsfan - Aug 11, 2015 at 11:09 PM

      Noticed you needed 7 games to qualify? I thought was a great way to have numbers say what you want.

      • stoatva - Aug 11, 2015 at 11:11 PM

        Like those “second in the league since July 22” stats.

      • adcwonk - Aug 11, 2015 at 11:18 PM

        Noticed you needed 7 games to qualify? I thought was a great way to have numbers say what you want.

        (chuckle) I wondered about that, too — why seven? But certainly you need _some_ sort of cut-off.

  42. Mrsb loves the Nats - Aug 11, 2015 at 10:56 PM

    2 out magic anyone….

  43. stoatva - Aug 11, 2015 at 10:57 PM

    Rafael Martin has been quietly turning his season around at Syracuse. May have missed his big opportunity though.

  44. stoatva - Aug 11, 2015 at 11:04 PM

    TGTNH

  45. Section 222 - Aug 11, 2015 at 11:07 PM

    Late to this discussion, but reading through the comments it seems there’s some revisionist history on Desi going on here. There were plenty of people here calling for him to be benched at various times this year — both before and after Rendon came back. Not wonk. He virtually always defends MW’s/Rizzo’s decisions. But it is demonstrably not true that anyone who thought Desi should take a seat, if not permanently then for an extended period, was a troll. Some even called for a phantom DL stint, if I recall correctly. And yes, some called for him to be DFA’d. Most of us knew that would never happen, but to call all the critics trolls, or take credit for sticking with him throughout the season is a bit much.

    We’re all thrilled he seems to be slowly working his way back to form. Not a moment too soon.

    • stoatva - Aug 11, 2015 at 11:10 PM

      For sure I thought he and not Espinosa should be the one to sit when Rendon came back.

    • Mrsb loves the Nats - Aug 11, 2015 at 11:15 PM

      I wanted rest days for him. He wasn’t helping the offense. And then seemed to average 1 error a game…

      Plus Espi was doing his thing and Uggla wasn’t terrible.

      I started feeling bad for Desi. It was hurting to watch him try. Either way, I’m 150 million percent happy that Desi has broken thru this funk. I hope this Desi is here to stay for the rest of the season.

    • abqnatsfan - Aug 11, 2015 at 11:16 PM

      222, I agree with you completely. Difference of agreement on situations like Desi this year aren’t black and white. There is has been understandable arguments on either side. No need to denigrate the other side, just support yours, whichever it is.

  46. manassasnatsfan - Aug 11, 2015 at 11:07 PM

    Joe is Cool.

    Now let’s score a few runs for him.

  47. stoatva - Aug 11, 2015 at 11:08 PM

    Nice K. But Joe has been fortunate Dodger sluggers have missed connecting with a couple of meatballs.

    • nats106 - Aug 11, 2015 at 11:10 PM

      You’re not talking about that 88 up in the zone are you?

      • Mrsb loves the Nats - Aug 11, 2015 at 11:12 PM

        I ducked under the covers on that one… lol… I did.

      • stoatva - Aug 11, 2015 at 11:12 PM

        Also the one to Puig and at least one other, iirc.

        S’okay. Lucky is good.

      • adcwonk - Aug 11, 2015 at 11:14 PM

        Did you see Ramos’ reaction after that pitch?

  48. Section 222 - Aug 11, 2015 at 11:08 PM

    That was a big league K by Ross. Very impressive.

    • adcwonk - Aug 11, 2015 at 11:13 PM

      Wow. Two out full-count slider with the runner going. Yeah, that takes nerve. AGonz was certainly surprised!

  49. nats106 - Aug 11, 2015 at 11:09 PM

    Joe Ross great pitch sequence against Gonzalez. Man did Rizzo ever steal a talent.

  50. adcwonk - Aug 11, 2015 at 11:12 PM

    He virtually always defends MW’s/Rizzo’s decisions

    I do want to clarify that a bit. In many cases, I’m not necessarily _agreeing_ with their decisions, but I am explaining why their decisions are reasonable, even if I would have done something different. There’s a difference. Sometimes I disagree with them, but I don’t think they are dumb.

    In terms of Ian, I wanted him to get more rest, too. But here’s the difference: I knew what MW & Rizzo were _trying_ to do (and Boz explained so well in one of his columns) — and that was: Ian is too young to be washed up, and he’d eventually get it together, because the past three years showed he had too much talent. Yeah, it was excruciating, and I would have done something different — but MW/Rizzo turns out to be smarter than most of us here. Or certainly smarter than I am.

  51. abqnatsfan - Aug 11, 2015 at 11:13 PM

    Joe Ross is impressive the way he hasn’t let base runners rattle him. Just calm beyond his years. What an unexpected bonus from that trade.

    • adcwonk - Aug 11, 2015 at 11:15 PM

      It’s just mind-boggling beyond comprehension that we could get Ross *and* Trea Turner for Souza.

      Steal of the decade?

      • nats106 - Aug 11, 2015 at 11:34 PM

        Especially because the Padres didn’t even get Souza

      • adcwonk - Aug 12, 2015 at 12:02 AM

        Hah! You’re right!

        OK, B-R has it as:

        The San Diego Padres sent Jake Bauers, Rene Rivera and Burch Smith to the Tampa Bay Rays. The Tampa Bay Rays sent Jose Castillo, Gerardo Reyes, Ryan Hanigan and Wil Myers to the San Diego Padres. The Washington Nationals sent Travis Ott and Steven Souza to the Tampa Bay Rays. The San Diego Padres sent Trea Turner to the Washington Nationals to complete the trade.

  52. stoatva - Aug 11, 2015 at 11:14 PM

    Zack Greinke is good at throwing baseballs.

    • veejh - Aug 11, 2015 at 11:16 PM

      Joe Ross ain’t too shabby

      • Ghost of Steve M. - Aug 11, 2015 at 11:21 PM

        Bad read by Michael Taylor and not great hustle by Taylor.

    • Ghost of Steve M. - Aug 11, 2015 at 11:16 PM

      He is good because he changes speeds and locations well. I can’t believe Ramos got the walk and last meeting that would have been called a K

    • adcwonk - Aug 11, 2015 at 11:16 PM

      Hasn’t lost a game since, what, mid-June?

      Over 150 innings, and he just issued only his 30th walk to Ramos.

      • rlndtln - Aug 11, 2015 at 11:20 PM

        The ump behind the plate is excellent tonite.The 3-2 pitch to Ramos was a ball that would have been strike 3 the last time..We have a fighting chance tonite.too bad Bryce is out.

  53. Section 222 - Aug 11, 2015 at 11:19 PM

    Well played FP, re: Wolf Blitzer.

  54. veejh - Aug 11, 2015 at 11:21 PM

    unbelievable toss from MAT….he’s out

    • veejh - Aug 11, 2015 at 11:21 PM

      dayum….looks like he missed the tag

    • Ghost of Steve M. - Aug 11, 2015 at 11:22 PM

      Bad read by Michael Taylor and not great hustle by Taylor. Yes, the throw was right on.

  55. Mrsb loves the Nats - Aug 11, 2015 at 11:22 PM

    Uhm… am I missing something… he looked out to me

    Throw beat him…

    • Mrsb loves the Nats - Aug 11, 2015 at 11:25 PM

      Escobar must have tagged late… but I didn’t see how it was enough evidence to over turn the call….

  56. stoatva - Aug 11, 2015 at 11:22 PM

    Buckner in absolutely perfect position to make the call. Still blew it.

  57. manassasnatsfan - Aug 11, 2015 at 11:22 PM

    If he tagged him he out. That is close as he can be to non conclusive.

    I would overturn it.

  58. adcwonk - Aug 11, 2015 at 11:22 PM

    Well – whether safe or not, that was quite a throw from MAT

    • Section 222 - Aug 11, 2015 at 11:23 PM

      Yes. After an unusually bad read and bad play.

    • texnat1 - Aug 11, 2015 at 11:24 PM

      Great throw, but poor read and poor play of the bounce.

    • manassasnatsfan - Aug 11, 2015 at 11:24 PM

      Great throw, but terrible read. Took step in. Had he gone straight back he might have caught it or at worse a double.

    • Ghost of Steve M. - Aug 11, 2015 at 11:25 PM

      It’s such a split second game that after the ball went over his head did MAT think he was conceding a double and surprised Ethier was going for 3?

  59. texnat1 - Aug 11, 2015 at 11:23 PM

    Bad tag. Escobar hiding from the runner and going with the swipe. That should have been an out.

    • manassasnatsfan - Aug 11, 2015 at 11:26 PM

      I don’t understand swipe tags at all. In replay world, tag and hold and every once a while and out

  60. stoatva - Aug 11, 2015 at 11:24 PM

    If Buckner had been any closer to the play he’d have gotten tagged.

  61. Mrsb loves the Nats - Aug 11, 2015 at 11:24 PM

    Lol, Nats always seem to be on the other ends of these calls…

    I wonder what JoeS thoughts are on MAT play in OF right there

    • manassasnatsfan - Aug 11, 2015 at 11:25 PM

      He misread it completely, I can tell you what he would say.

      • Joe Seamhead - Aug 11, 2015 at 11:41 PM

        I saw the play. Great throw by MAT, terrible tag by Yunel. He should have been out. As to the beginning of the play, Taylor played the bounce horribly, but I couldn’t see that he took an initial step in on the ball off the bat as FP said. You guys have heard me say that taking an initial step in is poor technique for an outfielder. It will more often than not make you look bad.But I didn’t have a good enough view of it to say he stepped in, or not, initially on that one. He sure looked bad on the bounce off the wall though.

        All that said, if Taylor had not taken a step in the other night Max would only have given up 2 runs in that game.

        Outfielding 101: either take a slight step back, or freeze until you know how deep the ball is hit. Never take a reflexive step in. Best to catch the ball, of course, but always better to have it drop in front of you rather than have it go over your head. If you come in, and the ball goes over your head, you have wasted two steps.

  62. Section 222 - Aug 11, 2015 at 11:25 PM

    I’m glad Werth deferred. His arm is not scary to runners anymore.

  63. Ghost of Steve M. - Aug 11, 2015 at 11:26 PM

    Not good to see Puig break out of his funk like that.

    • Mrsb loves the Nats - Aug 11, 2015 at 11:31 PM

      Have to see the rest of the series but that pitch was nice and juicy… like set up perfect for batting practice.

  64. Mrsb loves the Nats - Aug 11, 2015 at 11:26 PM

    Knew 1 of those was going to find its way on the seats….

  65. veejh - Aug 11, 2015 at 11:27 PM

    Why throw strikes when you can fish and set up the double play?

    • adcwonk - Aug 11, 2015 at 11:28 PM

      Ramos was set up down and away — i.e., he was setting him to fish. That’s why the up-and-in first pitch.

      Ross just missed.

  66. stoatva - Aug 11, 2015 at 11:27 PM

    Went right back to the same spot with Puig. Didn’t miss it this time.

  67. adcwonk - Aug 11, 2015 at 11:27 PM

    Drats. _That_ was a mistake pitch they _didn’t_ miss. Dayum . . .

  68. Ghost of Steve M. - Aug 11, 2015 at 11:27 PM

    Now the trolls will return in 3….2….1

    • manassasnatsfan - Aug 11, 2015 at 11:28 PM

      Unless you plan to troll from the beginning, don’t bother.

  69. manassasnatsfan - Aug 11, 2015 at 11:27 PM

    The scouting report or Joe Ross is wrong.

    You never have to throw a strike to Puig.

    Never.

    • Ghost of Steve M. - Aug 11, 2015 at 11:28 PM

      Has to look like a strike and go out of the zone. All started with the Ethier triple that shouldn’t have been.

      • manassasnatsfan - Aug 11, 2015 at 11:31 PM

        Second or third no difference in the homer.

      • Ghost of Steve M. - Aug 11, 2015 at 11:34 PM

        The point is if MAT hustles hard to that ball Ethier is out at 3rd by 2 steps.

      • Sec 3, My Sofa - Aug 11, 2015 at 11:50 PM

        I think he overplayed the ball, and then didn’t know where it was right away. In hindsight, he probably should have played it off the wall.

      • Ghost of Steve M. - Aug 11, 2015 at 11:57 PM

        I guess that’s one explanation.

    • adcwonk - Aug 11, 2015 at 11:28 PM

      Ross knows that. Ramos knows that. Did you see where Ramos was set up?

      Ross just missed.

      • coop202 - Aug 11, 2015 at 11:30 PM

        He missed up. That’s it. Ross has been great otherwise

      • adcwonk - Aug 11, 2015 at 11:31 PM

        He missed up to AGonz, too — but AGonz swung and completely missed that one.

      • manassasnatsfan - Aug 11, 2015 at 11:30 PM

        Hard to miss by a foot though. A few inches I understand.

  70. stoatva - Aug 11, 2015 at 11:28 PM

    Puig sure does love to admire his handiwork doesn’t he?

    • manassasnatsfan - Aug 11, 2015 at 11:29 PM

      Always does. Plunk him next time.

      3 walks not quite as sharp as usual.

      • stoatva - Aug 11, 2015 at 11:30 PM

        Does not have usual command tonight.

    • Ghost of Steve M. - Aug 11, 2015 at 11:30 PM

      That was crushed. A slider that hung and missed it’s spot.

      • manassasnatsfan - Aug 11, 2015 at 11:33 PM

        I wish our hitters would hit hangers that hard.

        Our percentage of hit hangers compared to our hangers be ing hit I believe is in the negative zone.

      • Ghost of Steve M. - Aug 11, 2015 at 11:35 PM

        They do. Taylor is the guy that crushes hanging sliders.

      • Mrsb loves the Nats - Aug 11, 2015 at 11:36 PM

        Desi and Ryan hit them yesterday…

    • Mrsb loves the Nats - Aug 11, 2015 at 11:32 PM

      I thought CarGo was worst…

  71. bleacherbumerik - Aug 11, 2015 at 11:28 PM

    So great to hear Vin Scully say exactly what I was thinking…terrible and lazy play by Escobar. Have to make that tag at third. Pure lack of heart and effort.

    • Ghost of Steve M. - Aug 11, 2015 at 11:32 PM

      Not sure I saw it that way. It was a swipe tag. Not sure the definitive play that overturned it to be honest since it was called “out” on the field. My issue was Taylor played it into a sure double not thinking Ethier would turn it into a hustle triple.

      • bleacherbumerik - Aug 11, 2015 at 11:43 PM

        You have to know with instant replay that there are no more swipe tags…selling that call doesn’t work anymore. Scully is still talking about it…lol. It was just laziness.

      • Ghost of Steve M. - Aug 11, 2015 at 11:51 PM

        Really, a swipe tag is not a fake tag. It’s the quickest way to get a tag on a runner when you don’t have time to set up.

      • texnat1 - Aug 11, 2015 at 11:47 PM

        It was a cowardly play by a middle infielder playing third. Scully called him out for it and rightfully so. Escobar didn’t want his body or even his hand anywhere near the runner.

      • Ghost of Steve M. - Aug 11, 2015 at 11:55 PM

        I disagree. I had no problem with it.

      • Joe Seamhead - Aug 11, 2015 at 11:48 PM

        I don’t get where Taylor didn’t hustle to get the ball. He misplayed it, but I think the kid is always hustling.

      • Ghost of Steve M. - Aug 11, 2015 at 11:57 PM

        After it bounced off the wall and back towards the infield it took him a couple clicks longer to get to it IMHO. Bryce has done it also. I think Ethier caught Taylor by surprise.

      • texnat1 - Aug 11, 2015 at 11:53 PM

        Agree, Joe. MAT misplayed the ball off the wall but his hustle was fine and he made an outstanding throw.

      • Sec 3, My Sofa - Aug 11, 2015 at 11:53 PM

        Scully called him out for it and rightfully so.

        I’m not listening to Scully, but I really doubt he said that.

      • texnat1 - Aug 12, 2015 at 12:46 AM

        BTW, Scully just revisited the play and again brought up how the throw had the runner dead to rights, but that Escobar was decidedly aggressiveness and had positioned himself way behind the bag and didn’t make the play.

    • Sec 3, My Sofa - Aug 11, 2015 at 11:37 PM

      Don’t make me pull this blog over and post the “Man In The Arena” speech again.

      • Sec 3, My Sofa - Aug 11, 2015 at 11:41 PM

        that was for eric, not you, G.

      • texnat1 - Aug 11, 2015 at 11:56 PM

        Well then you’re wrong. He talked about Escobar wanting no part of the play, and then started talking about MW himself would have made that play in his day and must be disappointed to see Escobar not make it.

  72. coop202 - Aug 11, 2015 at 11:28 PM

    Would love to see a replay of that third ball… Sure thought he swung

  73. Section 222 - Aug 11, 2015 at 11:32 PM

    The roller coaster of emotions during instant replay review. Oh my.

    • manassasnatsfan - Aug 11, 2015 at 11:34 PM

      Like none of us have roller coaster at our jobs.

      FP full of bunk again.

      • Section 222 - Aug 11, 2015 at 11:37 PM

        I think he was actually making an excuse for Joe Ross. Like it was really tough for him to think that he caught a break after Taylor’s bad play when the call was out, and then had to regroup and face Puig. If Joe can’t deal with that, how’s he going to deal with real pressure in a pennant race? Come on.

      • Sec 3, My Sofa - Aug 11, 2015 at 11:39 PM

        I didn’t hear it either way. I heard him say that the replay added a dimension that did not exist before replay. I think you’re looking for a stick to beat someone, anyone, with

      • Section 222 - Aug 11, 2015 at 11:51 PM

        He started out that way sofa, but at the end of his long explanation he definitely circled back to Ross and his emotions after the call at third and having to wait, and then face Puig. Maybe you missed it. I’m not looking for a stick, I just think FP runs his mouth too much. And I’m tired.

      • Sec 3, My Sofa - Aug 11, 2015 at 11:55 PM

        Perhaps, Deuces. I’m a bit sub-optimal myself.

  74. stoatva - Aug 11, 2015 at 11:32 PM

    Flag ’em and bag ’em folks. Flag ’em and bag ’em.

  75. coop202 - Aug 11, 2015 at 11:33 PM

    Bad route, bad pitch, bad tag. Happens. Would love the three of those to balance that out top of the fifth (also gonna need some of these liners that find the 3rd baseman to stop finding them)

    • manassasnatsfan - Aug 11, 2015 at 11:35 PM

      Their third baseman has already saved them a run.

  76. Section 222 - Aug 11, 2015 at 11:35 PM

    I’m constantly amazed at the critics of instant replay. Does anyone really want to go back to the days when there was no way to correct a clearly incorrect call that might affect the outcome of the game? I sure don’t. If the Nats had benefited from a reversal like that, we’d be thanking our lucky stars that we got 2 runs instead of 1 for that homer.

    • manassasnatsfan - Aug 11, 2015 at 11:37 PM

      I like replay, if calls are correctly corrected.

      This one the tag was missed, so I wanted reversed because I want it correct.

      Of course the balls and strikes are number one pet peeve with umps.

    • Ghost of Steve M. - Aug 11, 2015 at 11:40 PM

      I like instant replay but a swipe tag play is hard to overturn and I would say 90% sure he was safe but I’m not 100% sure as you lose depth perception. Not sure where the 100% definitive video replay was.

      • stoatva - Aug 11, 2015 at 11:43 PM

        You’d think they’d give a lot of weight to the decision of an ump who was on the spot and had a perfect view. He’s a heck of a lot closer than any of those cameras.

      • Ghost of Steve M. - Aug 11, 2015 at 11:45 PM

        You’d think. Probably was safe but the call on the field was out and “probably” is not 100%

      • manassasnatsfan - Aug 11, 2015 at 11:46 PM

        This is not a criminal case you don’t need 100% sure involved in your decision.

        I see more like a civil case I just need 50.1% chance.

        Let me take over NY and I would like it better.

        Also I believe the damn earphone crap needs to go I want 100% transparency. Okay the voices over the PA system as they view the play.

      • Ghost of Steve M. - Aug 11, 2015 at 11:54 PM

        I don’t think it’s 50/50. You want definitive video evidence to overturn. That’s why the NFL replay system works with such integrity.

      • texnat1 - Aug 11, 2015 at 11:49 PM

        Not sure what the Nats broadcast showed, but the dodgers feed had a very clear replay and Escobar quite obviously never touched him.

      • manassasnatsfan - Aug 12, 2015 at 12:08 AM

        My point I don’t want 100% sure. I just want it as it.

        Almost never have I seen one that I couldn’t make up my mind quite easily.

        Why do have trouble?

      • Ghost of Steve M. - Aug 12, 2015 at 12:15 AM

        OK, but I do. If the call on the field is reversed I want 100% video evidence on the reversal. The burden of proof changes depending on the situation and the Nats end up on the short end of the stick too often.

    • Sec 3, My Sofa - Aug 11, 2015 at 11:40 PM

      The problem is, I don’t trust them much more than the calls on the field. Yes, they do fix some bad calls, and it’s a net gain, but it’s like the Supreme Court — by definition, they don’t miss calls.

      • manassasnatsfan - Aug 11, 2015 at 11:48 PM

        Actually trust them less as they ignore the play and to often say their kindred is correct.

        You need no umpires doing it and you need transparency.

      • Section 222 - Aug 11, 2015 at 11:53 PM

        I agree sometimes it’s frustrating. But clearly better than no replay at all. 100% sure about that.

  77. stoatva - Aug 11, 2015 at 11:40 PM

    Pretty good swing that lazy no heart third baseman of ours put on that pitch.

  78. coop202 - Aug 11, 2015 at 11:41 PM

    Tony missing some gimme pitches… Let’s go two bags

    • coop202 - Aug 11, 2015 at 11:42 PM

      How many times can that happen…

  79. Ghost of Steve M. - Aug 11, 2015 at 11:42 PM

    BABIP bites again. Rendon crushes it. Nats need BABIP to work for them.

    • coop202 - Aug 11, 2015 at 11:43 PM

      Hasn’t been working for us in a while… Gotta change at some point right?

      • Ghost of Steve M. - Aug 11, 2015 at 11:52 PM

        It did last night after a few innings. K’s don’t help.

  80. manassasnatsfan - Aug 11, 2015 at 11:42 PM

    Their third baseman easily out playing ours in the field.

    • stoatva - Aug 11, 2015 at 11:51 PM

      Callaspo has made a couple of good plays tonight but he is no likelier than Escobar to ever win a Gold Glove.

  81. Mrsb loves the Nats - Aug 11, 2015 at 11:42 PM

    Sick of their 3b already…. #robbery

  82. nats106 - Aug 11, 2015 at 11:48 PM

    Keep it close Joe. That juicy Dodger bullpen is an inning away.

  83. texnat1 - Aug 11, 2015 at 11:49 PM

    Nats unlucky tonight.

    • stoatva - Aug 11, 2015 at 11:53 PM

      At the midway point, yeah.

  84. texnat1 - Aug 11, 2015 at 11:54 PM

    Another good throw from MAT there.

    • Mrsb loves the Nats - Aug 11, 2015 at 11:55 PM

      The little exchange between he and Rollins was chuckle worthy…

  85. manassasnatsfan - Aug 11, 2015 at 11:58 PM

    4 walk in 45 innings now 4 walks in 5.

    Nothing in the upper half. Either low or way high, not in between.

  86. Mrsb loves the Nats - Aug 11, 2015 at 11:58 PM

    Wow…..

  87. texnat1 - Aug 11, 2015 at 11:59 PM

    Goodness Gracious Robinson.

  88. adcwonk - Aug 11, 2015 at 11:59 PM

    Harper’s presence sorely missed tonight . . .

    • BatBoy - Aug 12, 2015 at 12:06 AM

      BRYCE WOULDA CAUGHT THAT!!!! Shouda put Ti Mo in RF! Clint not outfielder! ever!

      • BatBoy - Aug 12, 2015 at 12:11 AM

        Williams ????

  89. Section 222 - Aug 11, 2015 at 11:59 PM

    And that’s why you don’t put C-Rob in the outfield. Good night Irene.

  90. stoatva - Aug 11, 2015 at 11:59 PM

    And that ladies and gentlemen, is why you don’t want Clint Robinson playing anywhere with grass under his feet.

  91. Ghost of Steve M. - Aug 11, 2015 at 11:59 PM

    That’s where Clint Robinson costs his team again with defense. Are you kidding me. Run to the darn ball. RUN!

    • Sec 3, My Sofa - Aug 12, 2015 at 12:01 AM

      A first baseman playing outfield. That’s what it looks like.

      LOD in 3 … 2 … 1…

      Nevermind, the converts are already here.

      • Ghost of Steve M. - Aug 12, 2015 at 12:03 AM

        He’s not even a good 1st baseman.

      • Joe Seamhead - Aug 12, 2015 at 12:10 AM

        He’s a career AAA player that got a late in life break. It was a much nicer story earlier in the year than it has become as the season has gone on. Lousy infielder that can hit -“stick him in the outfield”- is a mentality that I have always detested.

  92. Mrsb loves the Nats - Aug 11, 2015 at 11:59 PM

    Unfortunate… Ross got his pitch… porous defense… that hurt…

    • rlndtln - Aug 12, 2015 at 12:06 AM

      Guys you make me laugh.You can not play with 2 outfielders like these 2.We need the 5th bench guy .We cannot play with these hambones.CRB is a pinch hitter and that is it.Get a outfielder here now as I have been saying.We needed a lefty bat at the trade deadline.Just look at the lineup the Dodgers put out there against right handed pitching.We can not compete this year or next with 1 left handed bat.

      • stoatva - Aug 12, 2015 at 12:08 AM

        Decided it’s safe to come out, did you?

  93. Joe Seamhead - Aug 12, 2015 at 12:00 AM

    Crap. I said earlier that CRobb looked better in RF in spring training than he did in LF. That was horrible. Just horrible.

    • manassasnatsfan - Aug 12, 2015 at 12:01 AM

      I am clueless how he wasn’t there he hung up high enough.

  94. manassasnatsfan - Aug 12, 2015 at 12:00 AM

    What CRob doing?

    Ross did exactly the right thing

    Harper’s little time off cost us 3 runs there.

    • adcwonk - Aug 12, 2015 at 12:03 AM

      He’s slower, and he plays further back than Harper.

  95. Mrsb loves the Nats - Aug 12, 2015 at 12:00 AM

    Somewhere Rntltdn is saying – see where is Matt Den Decker..

    • stoatva - Aug 12, 2015 at 12:02 AM

      I owe you a thought-coke.

      • adcwonk - Aug 12, 2015 at 12:04 AM

        Gallows humor at its best.

        Or something like that.

  96. Ghost of Steve M. - Aug 12, 2015 at 12:00 AM

    Harper doesn’t even need to dive for that ball. Just pathetic the concrete on that boys feet.

    • Sec 3, My Sofa - Aug 12, 2015 at 12:02 AM

      A first baseman playing outfield. That’s what it looks like.

      LOD in 3 … 2 … 1…

      Nevermind, the converts are already here.

    • manassasnatsfan - Aug 12, 2015 at 12:02 AM

      It was an easy fly CRob was part of the witness protection program. Totally missing.

      • Ghost of Steve M. - Aug 12, 2015 at 12:06 AM

        That ball wasn’t far from where CRob was positioned. Not sure if Clint can ever play ahead in his offense of his poor defense. 3 runs on that play.

      • Mrsb loves the Nats - Aug 12, 2015 at 12:12 AM

        I waa screaming yes can of corn…. can of corn… then I saw the slide and said whaaa….

  97. stoatva - Aug 12, 2015 at 12:01 AM

    Dunn-like speed there.

  98. Mrsb loves the Nats - Aug 12, 2015 at 12:02 AM

    I don’t understand why he was sliding…. why not just run… sorry, I didn’t think that was a good effort..

  99. abqnatsfan - Aug 12, 2015 at 12:02 AM

    Honestly, Robinson did what he could. He isn’t meant to be an outfielder. I have to say, this is where having that 4th real outfielder on the team would have mattered when Harper needed to be scratched.

    You play with the 25 you’ve got, but this 25 is vulnerable to situations like tonight.

    Now you just have to play hard and hope.

    • manassasnatsfan - Aug 12, 2015 at 12:04 AM

      I wasn’t meant to be a math teacher as a History teacher.

      When my boss said do it, I simply did it.

      We have been assigned to duties were not what we trained for and we did it.

      CRob was asked to play RF then do it.

      • abqnatsfan - Aug 12, 2015 at 12:07 AM

        He did. To the best of his ability. So what exactly is your point?

      • manassasnatsfan - Aug 12, 2015 at 12:10 AM

        As Nike says just do it.

        Just run to the ball and catch it.

      • abqnatsfan - Aug 12, 2015 at 12:21 AM

        He ran to the ball and tried. It was beyond his ability. What exactly makes you think he can do something he can’t. I don’t think he is a good outfielder. But he tried. I think you may be looking for a place to vent the frustration of “the world is not what we want it to be just cause we want it so”. So ok, pick my post to do so.

        Hope it helped.

    • stoatva - Aug 12, 2015 at 12:06 AM

      You know, I don’t really think anyone was disputing last night that we need a fifth bench player. Whatsisname was going on about how we need Utley and his .180 bat and when people called him on it he changed his argument.

      • abqnatsfan - Aug 12, 2015 at 12:08 AM

        Huh? what has that got to do with my post?

      • rlndtln - Aug 12, 2015 at 12:13 AM

        You are kiddin.I got stats from guys how it was the norm to have 4 bench players.You guys are a joke.You need defense first.one bad outfielder is too many.2 is insanity.Imagine if this game stayed close late with those 2 hambones..Get real stoat.You criticize but know nothing.I told you so.

      • stoatva - Aug 12, 2015 at 12:19 AM

        You ran away and hid as soon as the Nats got the lead, so probably you missed a few things.

        Like me going BWAHAHAHAHAHA!!!!

    • rlndtln - Aug 12, 2015 at 12:07 AM

      catching on.but we have Fister .

  100. Ghost of Steve M. - Aug 12, 2015 at 12:03 AM

    Sure would have liked to have seen what the Nats could do in a 2-0 deficit or a 1-0 deficit if Taylor doesn’t break in on Ethier’s triple.

    • adcwonk - Aug 12, 2015 at 12:06 AM

      Yep.

      Or if that two-outs bases-loaded smash to third was just a few more inches towards the hole . . .

      • Ghost of Steve M. - Aug 12, 2015 at 12:13 AM

        You can not hide Clint anywhere except on the bench.

        In Hi Lev at-bats Clint slashes .091/.189/.182/.371 It’s wonderful how good Clint is with the team ahead and how good he is with bases empty but he bats 80 points lower in RISP and 140 points lower when its 2 outs RISP situations.

  101. Mrsb loves the Nats - Aug 12, 2015 at 12:04 AM

    Hopefully next inning is Greinke last and we can feast on the Dodgers bp…

    Hopefully CROB can score some runs…

  102. Mrsb loves the Nats - Aug 12, 2015 at 12:09 AM

    I hope a bryce is back tomorrow… I mean can’t have 2 weak arms in the OF…

    • manassasnatsfan - Aug 12, 2015 at 12:12 AM

      And two below average fielders

  103. Mrsb loves the Nats - Aug 12, 2015 at 12:10 AM

    Poor first pitch call to Desi…

  104. Ghost of Steve M. - Aug 12, 2015 at 12:15 AM

    Greinke almost at 110 pitches.

    • Mrsb loves the Nats - Aug 12, 2015 at 12:17 AM

      Just hopeful the Nats can rake it against the Dodgers bp… dont want to see Baez…

      • Ghost of Steve M. - Aug 12, 2015 at 12:18 AM

        Again, how great would it be to be in a 2 run game.

      • Mrsb loves the Nats - Aug 12, 2015 at 12:20 AM

        Yeah… much better… but alas, sigh, I miss Span. I hope he can play this year…

      • rlndtln - Aug 12, 2015 at 12:23 AM

        we would have had a real shot tonite if we kept it 2-0.With a real outfielder in right like denDeker it would have been 2-0.Now if we try to get back in it is tough to double switch with only Danny and TMO available as we may need pinch hitters and MW does not like to use his 2nd catcher at all and Bryce may not even pinch hit.Playing 2 men short is insane.I took tons of criticism here from others that should learn from this insanity.All because Fister will not go on the Dl or down for 3 weeks.

      • Joe Seamhead - Aug 12, 2015 at 12:34 AM

        denDekker is not a ML ball player, much less a savior for this team Yes, he’s a better outfielder than Robinson, but there is a reason why an outfield deficient organization like the Mets gave up on him.

      • Mrsb loves the Nats - Aug 12, 2015 at 12:37 AM

        No one is saying he is a savior, but if he were here tonight, I would like to think and hope that MW would have had him playing for defense (runs were going to be at a premium tonight)….

  105. Mrsb loves the Nats - Aug 12, 2015 at 12:17 AM

    Hmmm… was that really strike 3 to Ramos… same pitch, 2 pitches ago looked to be a ball…

  106. manassasnatsfan - Aug 12, 2015 at 12:17 AM

    Got to love Grainke’s 6 shutout innings. Gave up 5 in the first to the Phillies in his last start.

    • Mrsb loves the Nats - Aug 12, 2015 at 12:23 AM

      Callaspo robbery is the big difference in this game… and the mess in RF…

  107. Ghost of Steve M. - Aug 12, 2015 at 12:22 AM

    That’s the Treinen who can drive you crazy. Leadoff walk. You can’t do that.

    • rlndtln - Aug 12, 2015 at 12:24 AM

      The game was over before it started with dumb roster non moves.

  108. Joe Seamhead - Aug 12, 2015 at 12:27 AM

    Another game that is directly affected adversely by Denard Span’s absence.

    • Mrsb loves the Nats - Aug 12, 2015 at 12:29 AM

      Yes…. also not having a real OF on the bench hurts too… sigh, I hope this doesn’t open a cam of worms.

      • Ghost of Steve M. - Aug 12, 2015 at 12:32 AM

        You’re already giving up a lot with Werth in there and to have to play CRob also is a recipe for disaster and boom, it happened. It’s MAT and nobody else.

      • Mrsb loves the Nats - Aug 12, 2015 at 12:35 AM

        Yes. Said that earlier… thats where the shortened bench hurts and sharp being out…. which is 1 of the many reasons why I miss D Span…

        Rizzo may want to try to get Bruce. Gonna run Harper and MAT in the ground… and you absolutely can’t have Weth and CROB in at the same time… CRob anywhere in the OF is a shame…

    • manassasnatsfan - Aug 12, 2015 at 12:38 AM

      +1

      His non attendance at games this year has been probably the biggest problem all year.

  109. stoatva - Aug 12, 2015 at 12:29 AM

    All of this is pretty much academic if we continue to get shut out.

  110. abqnatsfan - Aug 12, 2015 at 12:29 AM

    Slow game. Not breaking the Nats way. West Coast late night. At least I am in mtn time. Hope still there.

  111. texnat1 - Aug 12, 2015 at 12:30 AM

    Scully telling some story about how Trieinen got turned down when he asked for a try out at the University of Arkansas complete with details about how he sat in the coach’s office. Where does he get these stories? I’ve learned more about the Nats watching these games than a season of watching the Nats announcing team.

    • stoatva - Aug 12, 2015 at 12:33 AM

      Where does he get these stories?

      Researchers. Vin is always well prepped and still does his job pretty darn well.

      • Ghost of Steve M. - Aug 12, 2015 at 12:36 AM

        He is a trivia machine. He had some good stories on Drew Storen a few years back.

      • texnat1 - Aug 12, 2015 at 12:38 AM

        Agree, he does a great job.

    • JT - Aug 12, 2015 at 12:35 AM

      You really appreciate how terrible Carp and FP are when you hear a broadcaster like Vin Scully.

      • stoatva - Aug 12, 2015 at 12:39 AM

        You really appreciate how much better it is to listen to a single announcer calling a baseball game and not having to make idiot chatter with a “color guy” when you hear Scully or Jon Miller or a handful of others solo.

      • texnat1 - Aug 12, 2015 at 12:50 AM

        Agree, though I do enjoy some color guys. I’ll probably get crucified for this, but I think the mets team with Darling and Keith Hernandez is pretty good.

      • stoatva - Aug 12, 2015 at 1:11 AM

        No, I actually enjoy listening to the Mets team.

        I also think that if you’re on the air unscripted three or four hours a day, 162 days a year, you’re gonna say dumb stuff from time to time.

    • Joe Seamhead - Aug 12, 2015 at 12:35 AM

      That story was in WaPo last year, tex.

      • texnat1 - Aug 12, 2015 at 12:37 AM

        Ah. Thanks.

    • rlndtln - Aug 12, 2015 at 12:36 AM

      Now everybody wants an OF on the bench.What a laugh.I would put Fister in the game and let him pitch his arm off.Why waste any of our relievers.I guess you heard FP talking about this nearly all righty line up.I have preached all of this and to no avail.

      • Ghost of Steve M. - Aug 12, 2015 at 12:39 AM

        You’re not the only one. Tonight is why you need a “real” 4th outfielder.

      • Mrsb loves the Nats - Aug 12, 2015 at 12:39 AM

        Maybe you haven’t been paying attention…. people know that we need another OF becuz Span is still out, people just want better than Den Decker…

        Sometimes it’s the delivery…

      • Mrsb loves the Nats - Aug 12, 2015 at 12:41 AM

        For me, tonight shows how much Span is missed…

  112. manassasnatsfan - Aug 12, 2015 at 12:35 AM

    What is the deal with Span? We need another outfielder.

    Hard to believe the back spasm are still happening.

    I have not heard it called an oblique or anything else.

    Seems he is suffering from not stretching enough before each and every game. Hard a 31 year old would keep getting back spasm.

    • rlndtln - Aug 12, 2015 at 12:39 AM

      Now we need another outfielder.I thought it is only 3 weeks to call up time,other teams only have 4 bench players,how many balls are going to be hit there.It only took one tonite to give us zero chance.

      • rlndtln - Aug 12, 2015 at 12:43 AM

        Look at the bright side tommorow night we can have Jason in left and TMO in right.big improvement.And if we need a defensive replacement late we have CROB.Good night.

  113. stoatva - Aug 12, 2015 at 12:41 AM

    Every extra guy they put in the announcers booth makes the collective IQ drop twenty points.

  114. Mrsb loves the Nats - Aug 12, 2015 at 12:42 AM

    Dang so busy trying to reply to comments and the late/delayed orange button…

    Great inning Rivero… I wouldn’t have used him there though, would have used Thornton….

    • rlndtln - Aug 12, 2015 at 12:43 AM

      should have used Fister.perfect spot.

      • Mrsb loves the Nats - Aug 12, 2015 at 12:46 AM

        Fwiw, not sure if you have read others comments, but a good number of us wanted Fister to go on the 15 Day DL… moving to the BP was a shock…

  115. Joe Seamhead - Aug 12, 2015 at 12:44 AM

    Paging Nate Schierholz! Maybe we can gat him back from the Hiroshima Carp in Japan.

    • Mrsb loves the Nats - Aug 12, 2015 at 12:48 AM

      I had planned on coming on tomorrow to get my weekly update on him…

      I probably need to stop asking as I doubt he will play again this year…

      Thats our left and OF together…

    • Mrsb loves the Nats - Aug 12, 2015 at 1:03 AM

      Was talking McLouth, btw…

  116. Ghost of Steve M. - Aug 12, 2015 at 12:45 AM

    ‘Mrsb loves the Nats – Aug 12, 2015 at 12:39 AM
    Maybe you haven’t been paying attention…. people know that we need another OF becuz Span is still out, people just want better than Den Decker…

    Sometimes it’s the delivery…”

    EXACTLY +10

    • Mrsb loves the Nats - Aug 12, 2015 at 12:50 AM

      Hell, I would rather see MdD in there over Clint 7 out of 7 times…. runs were going to be at a premium tonight, we knew this, so we need to field the BEST defensive team we possibly can with what we got (since Harp isn’t available )…

    • Joe Seamhead - Aug 12, 2015 at 12:51 AM

      I thought as I read it that MrsB had the best post of the night with that one.

      • Mrsb loves the Nats - Aug 12, 2015 at 12:59 AM

        *blushing emoji* aww shucks Joe… thanks…

        Rldtn does sometimes have valid points… doesn’t necessarily know how to express them clearly but he does make some valid points.

  117. manassasnatsfan - Aug 12, 2015 at 12:49 AM

    Client’s had a good night 2 for 3.

    I guess Carp forgot the 3 runs given up.

  118. Joe Seamhead - Aug 12, 2015 at 12:49 AM

    Or maybe Billy Beane will give us Billy Burns back. Maybe for denDekker, as that’s who we ultimately ended up with for Burns, the guy whose way was blocked and would never have a shot to play with the Nats.

    • Mrsb loves the Nats - Aug 12, 2015 at 12:53 AM

      I’m trying not to say Souza…. 😆😆😆

      • Joe Seamhead - Aug 12, 2015 at 12:57 AM

        Sousa has look flat out awful in the OF this year by all accounts.

  119. stoatva - Aug 12, 2015 at 12:50 AM

    Enough of this. As we’ve said too many times this year, all the other problems are secondary if you score zero runs.

    Get ’em tomorrow.

    • Mrsb loves the Nats - Aug 12, 2015 at 12:52 AM

      Sure, stoatva, that is another valid part of the discussion…

      We are talking defense, while you are talking offense. Both points matter.

    • manassasnatsfan - Aug 12, 2015 at 1:04 AM

      We could have scored 4 like Friday and Sunday where we lost, and would have lost this too.

      Our pitchers , fielders and batters need to execute better.

  120. Mrsb loves the Nats - Aug 12, 2015 at 12:54 AM

    …. uhm, did we get bad info on this Dodger BP?

    • manassasnatsfan - Aug 12, 2015 at 1:02 AM

      We don’t hit late in games it seems.

      Though the Pirates killed them this past weekend.

      Would love t know what are team average each inning. Bet you it’s best the first 3 innings and gets worse in the second third and the worst in the last third.

  121. manassasnatsfan - Aug 12, 2015 at 12:59 AM

    6 walks not to impressive.

  122. Joe Seamhead - Aug 12, 2015 at 1:01 AM

    To add insult to injury, CRobb’s misplay goes in the book as a triple.

    • manassasnatsfan - Aug 12, 2015 at 1:03 AM

      I would call it a single and 2 base error.

      • Joe Seamhead - Aug 12, 2015 at 1:06 AM

        Yeah, but it goes in the book as a triple. A three run triple! On a ball that should have been caught, or least kept in front of him.

      • manassasnatsfan - Aug 12, 2015 at 1:08 AM

        I know what is officially. Just saying if was the official scorer its a single.

  123. Mrsb loves the Nats - Aug 12, 2015 at 1:02 AM

    Hopefully tomorrow Jordan will redeem himself and the Nats bats can put a squiggly line up on Kershaw….

    …. and the Rockies can make themselves useful and beat the Mets..

  124. manassasnatsfan - Aug 12, 2015 at 1:07 AM

    We outhit the Dodgers, but didn’t sniff the plate.

  125. Mrsb loves the Nats - Aug 12, 2015 at 1:09 AM

    Should be a good match up tomorrow. Kershaw vs double N….

    530 will be here in no time..

    Ttyl.

  126. Joe Seamhead - Aug 12, 2015 at 1:09 AM

    If Harper can’t play tomorrow? I would seriously consider sticking Espinosa in the outfield tomorrow. It would be an act of desperation, but this situation in the OF has gotten desperate.

    • manassasnatsfan - Aug 12, 2015 at 1:12 AM

      Espinosa would do a lot better I am sure.

    • abqnatsfan - Aug 12, 2015 at 1:12 AM

      yes, tonight was a new low for the outfield. I hope Harper heals real fast, but don’t want him to play if he will hurt the knee more.

    • simalex - Aug 12, 2015 at 2:25 AM

      Espi > > > > > > > Werth right now.

  127. manassasnatsfan - Aug 12, 2015 at 1:10 AM

    Nelson Cruz leaves game with back spasm.

    This story won’t have a happy ending.

  128. manassasnatsfan - Aug 12, 2015 at 1:15 AM

    One thing that umps miss more than balls and strikes, is check swings.

    About 10% are called swings, I would say in reality about 90% are swings.

  129. rlndtln - Aug 12, 2015 at 1:59 AM

    We sent denDeker down instead of Uggla.then we put Uggla on the Dl we do not get an Of instead we keep Fister.now we are short one regular and no Of defensive player and it really showed tonitesure I would have loved Cargo or Bruce but youguys think you can steal them.It just will not happen unless you are willing to give something close to equal value.now you say we agree we need an OF but we want a better one than DD.so do I but in the meantime we are better off we DD than an extra pitcher.If we did get a better OF we would have to get rid of somebody and it would have to be Fister.So our choice for the next 3 weeks unless we pull a miracle and some how get someone better than DD is to stay pat and get what we saw tonite or bring DD up until we get this great OF.In the meantime we have Fister sitting in the pen cleaning up lost games that Tymo could handle or bring DD up.

  130. simalex - Aug 12, 2015 at 2:27 AM

    I was at the game tonight.

    Werth looks horrible. HORRIBLE. in all caps. Evidently he’s healthy, but his at-bats were really bad.

    C-Rob… love ya, dude, but that play in RF was brutal.

    Dunno. 81 wins seems like a pretty reasonable # for this club.

    • simalex - Aug 12, 2015 at 2:36 AM

      i will say that Mikey Taylor’s throw from CF to nearly nail Either was a thing of beauty regardless of outcome, and Rendon hit the hell out of a ball that went right to their 3B — 6″, maybe less, in either direction, and that would’ve been a double for sure. Yuni had some solid ABs, and RZ is there. Desmond made some really tough plays on ‘D’ to get an out or two.

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