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Game 104: Diamondbacks at Nats

Aug 3, 2015, 3:24 PM EDT

Mark Zuckerman / NATS INSIDER

Well, that was a fairly eventful road trip the Nationals just completed. Now they open a 7-game homestand against the Diamondbacks and Rockies, desperate to get themselves back on track after getting swept in New York and seeing their lead in the NL East dwindle to percentage points.

The good news: The Nats won’t be facing one of the league’s elite pitchers tonight after a crazy, 2-week stretch against the likes of Kershaw and Greinke and Cole and Harvey and deGrom and Syndergaard. The bad news: Diamondbacks right-hander Zack Godley, tonight’s starter, is 2-0 with a 2.25 ERA in his first two big-league starts. Godley isn’t necessarily a high-profile prospect, and he throws in the 90-mph range, but he has shown good command down in the zone and is able to move the ball both inside and outside. We’ll see how the struggling Nationals lineup deals with that.

Doug Fister, meanwhile, starts for the Nats, coming off an encouraging outing in Miami in which he allowed two runs over six innings, earning the win over the Marlins.

Updates to come, so please check back…

ARIZONA DIAMONDBACKS at WASHINGTON NATIONALS
Where: Nationals Park
Gametime: 7:05 p.m. EDT
TV: MASN, MLB.tv
Radio: 106.7 FM, 1500 AM, XM 183
Weather: Mostly clear, 90 degrees, wind 11 mph out to CF

NATIONALS (54-49)
3B Yunel Escobar
2B Anthony Rendon
RF Bryce Harper
1B Ryan Zimmerman
LF Clint Robinson
SS Ian Desmond
C Wilson Ramos
CF Michael Taylor
RHP Doug Fister

DIAMONDBACKS (50-53)
RF Ender Inciarte
CF A.J. Pollack
1B Paul Goldschmidt
LF David Peralta
C Welington Castillo
3B Jake Lamb
2B Aaron Hill
SS Nick Ahmed
RHP Zack Godley

UMPIRES
HP Brian Gorman (cc)
1B Mark Carlson
2B Gabe Morales
3B Tripp Gibson

7:05 p.m. — And we’re underway on an 89-degree evening here on South Capitol Street. Doug Fister fires strike one to Ender Inciarte.

7:16 p.m. — A really nice, 1-2-3, 10-pitch top of the first for Fister that included a strikeout of Inciarte and a pair of groundballs to short. That’s much, much more like the Doug Fister we’ve seen in the past. The Nats, meanwhile, hit three balls hard off Zack Godley in the bottom of the first, but all were hit directly at outfielders, so nothing to show for it in a scoreless first.

7:27 p.m. — More good stuff from Fister in the top of the second, with another strikeout and a double-play grounder. He has thrown only 22 pitches. Godley one-upped that, though, striking out the side in the bottom of the inning. 0-0 after two.

7:40 p.m. — Fister made his first mistake of the night in the top of the third, and it cost him. He fell behind Nick Ahmed 3-0, grooved a fastball for strike one, then grooved another that Ahmed clobbered into the left-field bullpen. That wouldn’t be a problem, except for the fact Godley has now retired all nine batters he’s faced, four via strikeout. 1-0 Arizona after three.

8:08 p.m. — Hoo-boy, this is not moving in a positive direction. The Diamondbacks belted back-to-back homers off Fister in the top of the fourth, with David Peralta and Welington Castillo doing the honors. That’s now 12 homers allowed by Fister in 84 innings this season. The Nats finally got something going in the bottom of the inning, but Ryan Zimmerman struck out looking at a pitch down the middle with two on and one out, then Ian Desmond grounded out to short on a 3-1 pitch with the bases loaded to end the inning. After going 8-for-12 with the bases loaded last season, Desmond is now 2-for-9 this year. It’s 4-0 Arizona after four, and the fans here are quite restless.

8:37 p.m. — Make it 5-0 after five. This is the fifth time in 15 starts this season in which Fister has allowed at least five runs. He did it only twice in 25 starts last season. Now, the strange part: Matt Williams let him bat in the bottom of the fifth, with one out and a man on first. That’s one that’ll need to be asked about after the game.

Chase taking over for Mark so he can write his game story

9:01 p.m. — The Nationals remain down 5-0 with the top of the seventh inning up next. Fister stayed in the game and allowed a hit, but no runs. The Nats then couldn’t take advantage of Rendon getting on base to lead off. He was hit by a pitch from Godley. Tanner Roark will now take over to pitch the seventh.

9:15 p.m. — No runs to report on from the seventh inning, as the Nats still trail 5-0. Desmond, Ramos and Taylor all grounded out in the bottom half of the inning. Drew Storen will now come in to start the eighth inning.

9:28 p.m. — Still 5-0 as the Nats went down 1-2-3. Jonathan Papelbon will now take over to pitch the ninth.

9:50 p.m. — Nats nearly mount a comeback, but fall short. The final score is 6-4, as the Nationals fall to 54-50 on the season.

357 Comments (Feed for Comments)
  1. natsfan1a - Aug 3, 2015 at 3:33 PM

    Didn’t see any of the Mets series as I was out of town for a long weekend. I gather that maybe it’s just as well I didn’t.

    Will be watching tonight, though. Here’s hoping that some home cooking can get the boys back to winning ways.

    • Sec 3, My Sofa - Aug 3, 2015 at 4:44 PM

      I’ve been watching the games but staying out of here. There’s an ad for a pest control outfit on the right side, with a big picture of a spider on it.

      I hate looking at spiders. Brrrr.

      • dcwx61 - Aug 3, 2015 at 9:19 PM

        damn right, bro

  2. natsjackinfl - Aug 3, 2015 at 3:37 PM

    What? There’s a game tonight? I thought the season was over.

    • lowstrikes - Aug 3, 2015 at 3:56 PM

      +48

    • hokiepokster92 - Aug 3, 2015 at 4:04 PM

      +1,000

  3. kiawah51 - Aug 3, 2015 at 3:40 PM

    How can espinoza not start at SS Unbelievable

  4. Danny - Aug 3, 2015 at 3:40 PM

    Was out of town as well over the Mets series. Checked on last nights game thread and wow some of the posts. Very aware most of the venom was being spewed from trolls of course.

    Lets get some home cooking.

  5. Drew - Aug 3, 2015 at 3:40 PM

    It’s good to see Clint Robinson’s bat in the lineup. As for his LF defense: Just keep them in front of you, big fella, and catch the at ’em balls.

    • nats788 - Aug 3, 2015 at 3:45 PM

      would really like to see Espinosa getting some ABs wherever possible. 2nd most valuable position player in the first half after all

    • Doc - Aug 3, 2015 at 3:47 PM

      That’s about it, Drew. I will say that JDub is still adjusting to LF and playing again after 2 months on the DL.

  6. bowdenball - Aug 3, 2015 at 3:42 PM

    The team’s second-best position player by WAR has now been left out of the lineup for over a week. I guess that 2-4 with a steal performance that Danny put up against the Pirates 8 days ago was worthy of an indefinite benching.

    Add this to the list of Matt Williams mistakes. I’m no Chicken Little and I like this team’s chances this season, but Matt Williams is a complete disaster from a tactical standpoint.

    • jd - Aug 3, 2015 at 3:48 PM

      Thanks BB. I’ve been trying to say this all year. And here we go with Harper in the 3 hole one more time. Analytics be dammed.

      • Section 222 - Aug 3, 2015 at 10:33 PM

        Watch it jd. rintintin thinks the only thing MW has done right recently is bat Bryce 3rd.

    • jd - Aug 3, 2015 at 3:50 PM

      Espi also worked a really nice walk against Syndergard last night (The umpire neglected to call an obvious ball 4).

    • Mrsb loves the Nats - Aug 3, 2015 at 4:03 PM

      In MW’s defense (and I am not 1 to defend him, really), he may feel that the best defensive infield is 1 with Esco, Desi, and Anthony and Ryan since Fister is the sinker ball pitcher.

      I agree with you and wish Espi was playing. I was thinking of Espi at 1st and Ryan in LF, just so that we can get another bat and becuz CROb has been so poor in the OF.

      • jd - Aug 3, 2015 at 4:23 PM

        Mrs.b,

        I thinks Zim to left is over unless something crazy happens like Bryce getting ejected with no one left on the bench. I don’t think replacing Desi with Espi at short hurts the defense one iota. I think it’s just a stubborn streak that both Rizzo and MW have which is preventing them from sitting Desi once in a while. I am not even advocating a benching like some people want but if Desi plays 5 out of 7 games and Escobar plays 6 out of 7 and Rendon plays 6 out of 7 you have 4 games out of 7 Espi can play and everyone is fresher as an added bonus.

        BTW, I am also not wild about Espi at 1st base (too short).

      • masterfishkeeper - Aug 3, 2015 at 4:24 PM

        Wouldn’t the best defense be Rendon at 3B and Espi at 2B? That’s what I find frustrating about this lineup.

      • jd - Aug 3, 2015 at 4:28 PM

        It would be master but I don’t think there is any way to take Escobar’s bat out of the lineup and I have the distict impression that he can only play 3rd base at least this year.

      • bowdenball - Aug 3, 2015 at 4:50 PM

        It’s hard to imagine our best defensive infield being one that doesn’t have our best defensive infielder!

        Also I don’t mean to go in on Matt Williams too much. It seems like the players like him and he’s decent with the media and I’m sure he does lots of things we don’t see. I’m speaking only of tactical decisions, the thing the fans CAN see and analyze from a somewhat educated perspective. And he’s been pretty terrible on that stuff.

      • unkyd59 - Aug 3, 2015 at 9:00 PM

        I cannot imagine that Sponner in LF could possibly be a downgrade from Clint. And Danny can do so much offensively……

      • unkyd59 - Aug 3, 2015 at 9:01 PM

        …Spinner, that is…

  7. nats788 - Aug 3, 2015 at 3:46 PM

    Not too excited about Fister tonight. He’s getting less movement on his pitches this year and isn’t exactly blowing it by anyone

    http://navyyardnotes.blogspot.com/2015/08/whats-eating-doug-fister.html

    • lowstrikes - Aug 3, 2015 at 4:05 PM

      That analysis is very thorough on the “effect” side of the ledger. By way of FP, Fister has been working intensively on the “cause”, determining that his posture had changed. In his recent 2-run outing versus the Marlins, he was back to utilizing his height. Unless FP just makes up stuff. At any rate, I got a lot of faith in Doug. I think we’re through the bad days.

      • jd - Aug 3, 2015 at 4:27 PM

        I hope so lowstrikes but I am not convinced. In his last game even if he wasn’t clubbed too hard there were too many line drives and fly balls allowed and not enough ground balls and strike outs. Makes me think he was more lucky than good.

  8. jd - Aug 3, 2015 at 3:55 PM

    Even if you don’t want to bench Desi (and he’s been hitting a lot better lately) you have to find at bats for Espi somehow, between Desi, Esco, Rendon and even Werth you should easily be able to get Espi 2 – 3 starts a week.

  9. zmunchkin - Aug 3, 2015 at 4:03 PM

    Off-topic, and repeated from the previous post (since most folks have likely moved to this post for comments).

    For those of you who commented on my plans to download the PitchFx data and do some analysis on it – a very preliminary set of results. Note that I have not double checked the data or the code yet, so for now take this with a grain of salt. I downloaded just the data for the Sunday night game. There is a lot more work I have to do to make this a repeatable process and have a cumulative set of data.

    Regardless, here goes.

    – the data has a field that describes what happened (called strike, ball, foul, in play out, in play runs, etc;.). For this preliminary analysis I subset the data to just called strikes and balls (the ones where the umpires judgment is used)
    – there is also a zone field that describes where the pitch crossed the front of the plate. Zones 1-9 are supposedly the strike zone. This is the field I used to categorize the pitch based on the PitchFx data. There are lots of data values about the position, angle, etc. of the ball. But from my research so far, most folks use the zone field.

    – There were a total of 113 pitches that were called strikes or balls. Of those, the umpire called 75 of them balls, and of those, pitchfx had 3 of them as strikes. The remaining 43 were called strikes and pitchfx had 18 of them as balls. So clearly the umpire had a big strike zone.

    – When the Mets were at bat (i.e., Nats pitching), there were 56 called strikes/balls. Of those, 38 were called balls by the umpire and of the remaining 18 that were called strikes, 6 were balls according to pitchfx.

    – When the Nats were at bat, there were 62 called strikes/balls. Of those, 37 were called balls by the umpire and 1 was a strike and of the remaining 25 that were call strikes, 12 (yes, 12) were balls according to pitchfx.

    Again, preliminary, not yet validated results. But at least for this one game (and yes, limited sample size), the calling of balls and strikes showed a bias (whether intentional or not) in favor of the Mets.

    • jd - Aug 3, 2015 at 4:19 PM

      zmuchkin,

      Thanks for the research. I am one on record who says that worrying about the umps is a waste of time and every fan thinks his team is getting screwed. Having said that last night was fairly obvious. I think the home plate ump was simply caught up with the wave of Mets excitement and pretty much called anything close a strike for Syndergaard. He was much less generous with JZimm and a particular ball 4 call to Plawecki turned very costly as the Mets proceeded to score 5 runs with 2 outs.

      • zmunchkin - Aug 3, 2015 at 4:47 PM

        In general I agree with you. The reason I am doing this is three fold:

        – as I said yesterday, I think this would be interesting data for a book on software aggregation and analysis methods that I am considering writing with a collegue

        – to get some data that either refutes of supports the claims that umpires have a bias for/against certain players and teams.

        – if there is indeed bias, exposing it is a necessary (but not sufficient) condition to getting the issue addressed.

      • adcwonk - Aug 3, 2015 at 4:52 PM

        “think the home plate ump was simply caught up with the wave of Mets excitement…”

        I remember reading, years ago, perhaps in SI, a theory (supported by data) allegedly trying to figure out why, in some sports, Home team had such a decided advantage in results.

        The conclusion was that refs subconsciously favored the home team (getting swept up in it all). ( it might be that he can only analyzed the number of phone calls and basketball games, I can’t remember)

        My point is that jd might be pointing to the same, and perhaps real, phenomenon.

      • adcwonk - Aug 3, 2015 at 4:54 PM

        That would be foul calls in basketball games, not phone calls 🙂

      • zmunchkin - Aug 3, 2015 at 4:58 PM

        wonk and jd: once I automate my process to get the data, I plan to run some analyses comparing home vs. away. Right now the only data I’ve loaded is the last 3 Nats@Mets games so team can’t be separated from home/away.

      • nats788 - Aug 3, 2015 at 5:48 PM

        adcwonk – Scorecasting researched this. determined that the closer the ref/ump was to the home crowd the larger the effect on subjective calls (balls/strikes would classify in this case)

        http://www.amazon.com/Scorecasting-Hidden-Influences-Behind-Sports/dp/0307591808/ref=sr_1_2?ie=UTF8&qid=1438638427&sr=8-2&keywords=sportscasting

    • zmunchkin - Aug 3, 2015 at 4:56 PM

      I decided to go ahead and run my analysis against the PitchFx data for the Friday and Saturday games. And let me emphasize that I still need to formally review and confirm my program.

      In general the comparison with the biggest differences is called strikes that are balls according to PitchFx. Called balls that are strikes happen, but not very often.

      For the Friday game, of the pitches that were called strikes by the umpire:
      – when the Mets were at bat, PitchFx had 40% of them as balls
      – when the Nats were at bat, PitchFx had 30% of them as balls

      For the Saturday game, of the pitches that were called strikes by the umpire:
      – when the Mets were at bat, PitchFx had 32% of them as balls
      – when the Nats were at bat, PitchFx had 33% of them as balls

      For the Sunday game, of the pitches that were called strikes by the umpire:
      – when the Mets were at bat, PitchFx had 33% of them as balls
      – when the Nats were at bat, PitchFx had 48% of them as balls

      Of course, this very rough analysis does not take into account a number of factors:
      – the current count (e.g., a called strike 3 that is a ball is much more impactful)
      – the impact of pitches early in the game that force batters to swing (this one is particularly hard to try an quantify.

      This is an interesting set of data. I have a lot more thinking to do about how to use and report on it.

      • natsdial8 - Aug 3, 2015 at 5:28 PM

        Zmunch exceptionally interesting project.

      • ArVAFan - Aug 3, 2015 at 5:44 PM

        zmunchkin: First, thank you for running the analytics. Second, I expect that your book will be reviewed (and therefore purchased more frequently) if you feature baseball analytics on the cover (no matter what else you have inside). Of course, there are some analytics that outsell baseball (i.e. s e x), but I suspect you probably knew that.

      • senators69 - Aug 3, 2015 at 5:44 PM

        Zmunch — Nice work!
        Also – I enjoyed your post on another story today where you lamented Bad Bob Short spiriting the team away in 1971. I was a kid … heart-broken.
        But this organization (in spite of current team troubles) is a godsend. So great to have real pros in a town marked by years of buffoonery by the football team.

      • dcwx61 - Aug 3, 2015 at 5:46 PM

        Holy moly, the subjective comments are now backed up by the stats!!! That difference must be significant.

      • dcwx61 - Aug 3, 2015 at 6:02 PM

        Zmunch…very interesting and you’ve just dusted off the surface of the data.
        keep it close to your vest and use for your book. it could be very valuable to someone out there.
        Good luck !

    • chrisrw109nats - Aug 3, 2015 at 5:35 PM

      Hey Z, I don’t suppose you have that catalogued data in a csv?

      One thing I’d be interesting is focusing on two additional slices of the data:
      1st Pitch.
      Ball 4 / Strike 3.

      My general feeling has always been that it’s those two instances where the leverage of a generous zone really kills your opponents.

      • zmunchkin - Aug 3, 2015 at 6:01 PM

        Chris, I don’t yet have the data to the state where it is shareable. But I hope to have something soon. At which point I can make it downloadable as a CSV file. My plan is to:

        – load up the data for all of July
        – validate that my process to bulk load the data is working correctly
        – provide some simple reports and insights

        And your suggested slices are very similar to a few I had thought of. In addition to Ball 4 and Strike 3, I wanted to see if there was a way to (without too many assumptions) determine if balls called strikes in the first run through of the lineup impacted more swings at balls in the same (or nearby) zones in later ABs.

        Since this will likely be part of a book project in my professional life, I will likely start talking about this and publishing some insights on my blog (which is focused on what is now-a-days called business intelligence reporting). Once I have something I will post a link to my blog so interested NIers and look at what I am finding.

    • zmunchkin - Aug 3, 2015 at 7:03 PM

      OK. I am going to have to start looking more seriously at this and dcwx61 is right about keeping the details somewhat close.

      I’ve loaded all the games for July, 2015. And just looking at pitches called strikes by the umpire. With a couple of exceptions, virtually every team has a percentage of called strikes that PitchFx categorized as balls around 30-35%.

      I then decided to look at it by batter to detect if there was, as Ghost has suggested, a Bryce bias. There are 262 batters with 30 or more called strikes in the month of July. The data identifies the batter via a key which is a number. There are other gameday tables that translate the number to the player name. I have not integrated that into my process. But just for yucks I looked at Bryce’s number. Ranked high (lots of balls called as strikes) to low (fewer balls called as strikes), Bryce ranked 31st at 44%. I decided to look at Trout, and he ranked 248th at 21%. Pretty shocking.

      Again, I still need to validate the logic.

  10. jfmii - Aug 3, 2015 at 5:18 PM

    Good stuff, zmunchkin. I have been around long enough to think/believe it all evens out.

    And I agree with what everyone is saying — the apparent bias shown by this analysis is probably a result of the home team excitement. But for me there is that other piece that says Saturday and Sunday could also reflect the Bryce factor from Friday night.

    • dcwx61 - Aug 3, 2015 at 5:52 PM

      yes….or could be the umpire’s proclivity to call low rather than high strikes with the pitcher trying to get the high call…who knows…first the data quantifies what happens…then you can do all kinds of analysis to try to understand why.
      The importance of this analysis could be wide spread. IF one can identify an umpires biases better, pitchers and batters could adjust to those…(e.g.: joe schmo is biased toward calling the outside borderline pitch more so pitcher could target the outside more)….Zmun recommend you keep the data close to your vest and think about marketing…The sharks will be surrounding you soon.

  11. lesatcsc - Aug 3, 2015 at 5:19 PM

    Getting Werth out of the lineup helps break up that run of batters hitting under .220. I guess you can’t get Werth back on track, if such thing is possible this season, sitting him on the bench though. Still, after struggling to score runs all weekend, it’s nice so see someone who at least generates a little excitement with a bat in his hands back in the lineup.

    Not sure why they insist on staring Desmond every single game now that Esco and Rendon are back. I understood when the only other option was Buriss or Difo somewhere in the infield, but that isn’t the case anymore. Are the Nats going to risk a wasted season waiting for Desmond to turn it around. It’s not like he’s an defensive upgrade on Espi.

    Perhaps the thinking is that they will either sink or swim with Desmond, Zimmerman and Werth playing pretty much every day. If that’s the case, we better hope they start playing better, or sink it will be.

    Go Nats go!

  12. natsdial8 - Aug 3, 2015 at 5:35 PM

    i am not throwing stones here but I do feel our local media in general does not do a great job confronting Matt on some of his tactical decisions .

    • dcwx61 - Aug 3, 2015 at 5:56 PM

      i was driving home listing to 106.7 and the announcer said Williams is under fire ???
      from where and for what ?? (bullpen, bench usage, harper control ??)

      • philipd763 - Aug 3, 2015 at 6:01 PM

        the announcer said Williams is under fire ???
        from where and for what ??

        For being dumb!

      • natsnatsnatswoo - Aug 3, 2015 at 6:13 PM

        Here’s one example. There are countless others. Also check out Boswell’s chat today, he goes to town on MW’s managerial deficiencies.

        http://www.federalbaseball.com/2015/8/2/9086045/washington-nationals-manager-matt-williams-is-out-of-excuses

      • dcwx61 - Aug 3, 2015 at 6:46 PM

        Thanks Nats, Nats…
        pretty rough on Mr. Williams

        1. keeps starter in too long

        2. does not take advantage of matchups as much
        eg: Ross vs lefties Saturday, walking Cespedes against a lefties where his stats are weak

        3. not using you’re 2 aces in the BP in one run games this weekend

        From Fed baseball: “It’s unforgivable to go into a series this big and lose two one run games where the Mets scored the winning run in their final at bat without your top two relievers getting on the field at some point!”

        4. He doesn’t use Espinosa anymore even given his solid +2.1 WAR
        “From Fed Baseball: I’ll save you all the time to look up when Espinosa’s last at bat was. It was on Sunday, July 26… one week ago today”

        So is Fed Baseball a troll ?

      • dcwx61 - Aug 3, 2015 at 6:52 PM

        Thanks nats, hats again
        and from boswell

        1. keeping ross in against Duda

        2. BP management

        3. not stacking more lefties in the lineup

        4. not rearranging the rotation for 6 games against their closest rival

        From Boswell:
        “How can you play three games, two of them very close, and never use Storen or Pabelbon in any of them? How can you get into the 12th inning and feel that you have no choice but to have a rookie, who’s already pitched two shutout innings, go out for a third inning and give up a walk-off homer? Others “were not available.” ”

        Is he a troll too ?

      • dcwx61 - Aug 3, 2015 at 7:18 PM

        another negative MW article from the washington post 3hrs ago

        http://www.washingtonpost.com/news/dc-sports-bog/wp/2015/08/03/matt-williams-helps-mets-fans-feel-better-about-terry-collins/

    • natsdial8 - Aug 3, 2015 at 7:55 PM

      Not looking for negative articles . Would like to see hardball questions face to face and pressing for real answers .

  13. kiawah51 - Aug 3, 2015 at 5:54 PM

    Half these posts are a joke. Desmond a better defensive player than Espinosa. Zimmerman squaring the ball up (whats his batting average) Start Robinson in the outfield. The guys a bigger liability in the field than Uggla in the outfield.

    Analytics on strikes and balls. Give me a break. Watch the games and just see how many pitches we take down the middle for strikes and how many pitches Desmond, Ramos, Taylor, Werth and Zimmerman chase that are low and outside. These guys have no plan when they come up to the plate. My 5 year old grandson knows that even if a pitcher throws 95 when the ball leaves his hand and is under his knees it not rising. Let it go.
    37ks in 81 at bats against the Mets. You wouldn’t see that in your kids tee ball games. No contact is no contact.
    Please at least fly out or ground out so you look like a baseball player.

    • dcwx61 - Aug 3, 2015 at 5:59 PM

      Are you a happy man in general…if this blog is annoying or frustrating to you, it may be better to ignore and play with the grandkids…life is too short.

    • adcwonk - Aug 3, 2015 at 6:00 PM

      How do you explain the rather large strike out rate for both Mickey Mantle and Babe Ruth?

  14. philipd763 - Aug 3, 2015 at 5:58 PM

    Good…no Werth tonight!

  15. kiawah51 - Aug 3, 2015 at 6:06 PM

    your comparing mickey mantle and babe ruth to Desmond, Werth, Zimmerman, Taylor and Ramos. Now I’ve heard everything.

    DCWx61 I think we should all play cum ba ya and just say how happy we are with the teams performance. No sense pointing out facts and deficiencies. Why would one let facts get in the way of anything.

    • dcwx61 - Aug 3, 2015 at 6:11 PM

      No you can point out your opinion but why do so by belittling 1/2 the posters ?
      I think the points you make could come across much better and more would listen.

    • adcwonk - Aug 3, 2015 at 6:19 PM

      Two points:

      1. You said: “Please at least fly out or ground out so you look like a baseball player.”

      Did Mantle look like a baseball player?

      2. I’m not comparing Mantle and Ruth to the Nats lineup. Quite the contrary: the Nats players (with the possible exception of Harper) are nowhere near as good as Mantle. Is that what you are faulting them for? I have news for you. Nobody on the Mets is as good as Mantle either.

      Call me crazy, but I’m thinking that hitting a 95 mph baseball with movement must be kind of hard.

  16. kiawah51 - Aug 3, 2015 at 6:22 PM

    My intent is not to belittle anyone. But just point out statements that make zero sense and consistently come from homers. I will try to send the message in a more subtle way. But can we please be serious and realize this team has huge offensive deficiences and start realizing they started with these players before injury.

    It’s insulting to ones intelligence to blame our poor play on the umpires and continue at this point in season to keep saying these guys will come around because that’s there historical numbers. Many are older and injury plagues and are probably past the point of what they did in the past.

    Rizzo should have realized this and made moves to bolster the offense. He blew it clear and simple. Could they still win the division 50/50. But if we are going to be honest with ourselves we know after that its’ 25/75 to move on. I haven’t even gotten into MW moves that will prove his undoing in another year or two. Only reason he’ll last that long is he goes way back with Rizzo.

    Both felt that our pitching could carry this team. It didn’t take a rocket scientist the last two years in the playoffs to see that won’t happen against teams that have quality pitchers. We even struggle against average pitchers, Jake Peavy, Hudson, Dan Haran etc. etc etc.

    • dcwx61 - Aug 3, 2015 at 6:33 PM

      I think that is a fair assessment. I do have questions about Werth and all damage to his wrist. I do expect zimmerman and Span to come on strong but you are right there is still holes with Desmond/Ramos and possibly Werth. I guess you can get away with one or two guys batting below .240 or so, but not 5. It should get better, but will it be enough ? I hope so but I am making some assumptions wrt Zimmerman/Span and Werth or Taylor.

      But good news, Paps and Storen are still well rested 😉

  17. Mrsb loves the Nats - Aug 3, 2015 at 6:48 PM

    Great to read that Carpenter and Span and SS being close, if not ready. Can wait to get the whole squad back.

  18. Mrsb loves the Nats - Aug 3, 2015 at 6:50 PM

    Whelp Dougie…. here is to your sinker ball sinking and you getting back on track.

    Hope the Nats bats explode for a bunch of runs tonight… as long as we win!

    Go Nats!

  19. jfmii - Aug 3, 2015 at 6:53 PM

    Shhhh kiawah51, shhhhhh. Nationals are 6th in the NL in runs scored. I am guessing that ranking is going to get better as these guys coming off the DL get their timing back.

    Try whispering instead of screaming. Try a gentle tone, not a strident one. In any event, don’t be so sure in your writing. And by the way, reference your last paragraph at the 6:22 post, I am probably not the only one who thinks neither the Cardinals in 12, nor the Giants in 14 had great pitching, and I think, not sure, but think those were the only two times they were in the playoffs. And I don’t think, they ever faced Haren in the playoffs but maybe you are remembering something that I can not recall.

    • veejh - Aug 3, 2015 at 6:57 PM

      I think he was just referencing the previous series against the Fish, where we didn’t do much against Haren. I do remember getting BABIPd to death that game, though.

    • veejh - Aug 3, 2015 at 6:57 PM

      I think he was just referencing the previous series against the Fish, where we didn’t do much against Haren. I do remember getting BABIPd to death that game, though.

  20. adcwonk - Aug 3, 2015 at 7:08 PM

    “Rizzo should have realized this and made moves to bolster the offense. He blew it clear and simple. ”

    Umm, Nats are essentially tied for 5th in runs/game (and 0.03 behind the 4th best team). The hole was their bullpen, and Rizzo was on top of that.

    As for offense — we already have five infielders. And to get an outfielder, where does he play when Span returns? If you don’t like Ramos — well, guys like Posey or Lucroy weren’t exactly available.

    A team is never as bad as it looks during a losing streak, nor as good as they seem during a winning streak.

    • dcwx61 - Aug 3, 2015 at 7:11 PM

      Agreed. the offense is much better than what we saw the past 2 weeks.
      BP management is more of a concern for me.

  21. veejh - Aug 3, 2015 at 7:08 PM

    Looks like the sinker is sinking.

  22. Mrsb loves the Nats - Aug 3, 2015 at 7:09 PM

    Aight, this is encouraging… 2 ground ball outs thus far… Nice job Dougie F.

  23. dcwx61 - Aug 3, 2015 at 7:09 PM

    OTOH, the offense is definitely much better than we saw the past 1 week plus:
    From Boswell:
    They’re very close to breaking out and hitting much better. In a 15-game span, they just saw Harvey (2), deGrom (2), “Thor” (2), Greinke, Kershaw, Cueto, Cole and Liriano!
    In those 15 games, about as tough a test as a hitter will see, Harper hit .296/.397/.519. Scored 10 runs. got on base 24 times. Three homers. Some hits came off relievers. So? HR off Kenley Jansen doesn’t count? Tough test. Good grade.

  24. Mrsb loves the Nats - Aug 3, 2015 at 7:11 PM

    I like the leadoff hitter taking 3/4 pitches… sigh…

  25. veejh - Aug 3, 2015 at 7:14 PM

    Godley gonna get pounded tonight. 3 hard hit balls already.

  26. Mrsb loves the Nats - Aug 3, 2015 at 7:15 PM

    Those are going to fall next time thru the order…

  27. adcwonk - Aug 3, 2015 at 7:21 PM

    Fister looking great so far!!

    After two innings — every single batter has hit a grounder — except for the two that struck out.

    • manassasnatsfan - Aug 3, 2015 at 7:38 PM

      I got home to see the homer.

      • adcwonk - Aug 3, 2015 at 7:53 PM

        Well, he looked great the first two innings.

        Sigh…

  28. Mrsb loves the Nats - Aug 3, 2015 at 7:22 PM

    Another good inning Dougie F… sinker is sinking…

  29. veejh - Aug 3, 2015 at 7:28 PM

    Dez Ks. Shocker.

    • dcwx61 - Aug 3, 2015 at 7:29 PM

      getting old

  30. stoatva - Aug 3, 2015 at 7:32 PM

    Ouch.

    Could be tough to get that back against Cy Godley.

  31. Ghost of Steve M. - Aug 3, 2015 at 7:34 PM

    Big location mistake and a hanger that Ahmed sends out. Can’t do that in a 3-1 count to a guy swinging out of his cleats.

    • TheBigDummy - Aug 3, 2015 at 7:35 PM

      C&D said Ahmed was 6 for his last 50 something, a .105 average. Why wouldn’t he hit one out?

      • Mrsb loves the Nats - Aug 3, 2015 at 7:36 PM

        Seems like its just our luck…

      • Ghost of Steve M. - Aug 3, 2015 at 7:36 PM

        Desi would have hit that one on the concourse. A 2 seamer that didn’t sink, missed location, high in the zone. A recipe for disaster.

  32. manassasnatsfan - Aug 3, 2015 at 7:36 PM

    Last two games we gave the starter a lead and that didn’t work.

    So I guess Fister is trying the opposite let them take a lead. Threw a meatball to number 8 hitters.

    I wish we would start hitting other teams meatballs as teams hit ours.

    We just just can’t hit other teams mistakes like ours get hit.

    Thus our pitchers need to focus more than they are doing.

    I just got home but Charlie andcDave have on this home ump like the Mets series.

  33. Ghost of Steve M. - Aug 3, 2015 at 7:38 PM

    Godley awful. Let’s go Nats. Get those bats going.

  34. Mrsb loves the Nats - Aug 3, 2015 at 7:40 PM

    3rd inning and Godley has only thrown 29 pitches…

    Sigh…

    • manassasnatsfan - Aug 3, 2015 at 7:44 PM

      I know that bothers you it never bothers me.

      What bothers me is not swinging at fast balls and swinging at sliders.

      Why the end up swinging at sliders is they take a fastball for a strike.

      • adcwonk - Aug 3, 2015 at 8:10 PM

        “Why the end up swinging at sliders is they take a fastball for a strike.”

        C’mon — use common sense. The answer is in your question.

        If a lot of players are doing that – -then the obvious answer is that it’s hard to tell which is which when it’s coming out of the pitcher’s hand. That’s why pitchers throw sliders.

        Look — how many guys strike out against Storen, even though they *know* that Storen’s out pitch is a slider?

        Surely you’re not saying that when Storen strikes out a guy on a slider outside the zone that it’s because Storen’s a good pitcher, but when Nats players swing at pitches like that the Nats players stink, are you?

  35. dcwx61 - Aug 3, 2015 at 7:40 PM

    Ramos now 5 for his last 60
    he was once batting over .320 back on May 10

    • manassasnatsfan - Aug 3, 2015 at 7:42 PM

      He looks totally loss. That is where Schu is suppose to help correct the mental preparation.

      • dcwx61 - Aug 3, 2015 at 7:47 PM

        tough job

  36. manassasnatsfan - Aug 3, 2015 at 7:41 PM

    Our hitters like they are clueless. Do they study the pitchers at all.

    I see no evidence that Schu is doing any preparation to mental part of hitting.

  37. manassasnatsfan - Aug 3, 2015 at 7:43 PM

    When is Espi going to start at short?

  38. Ghost of Steve M. - Aug 3, 2015 at 7:46 PM

    #33 needs a patented Fister GIDP here

  39. Mrsb loves the Nats - Aug 3, 2015 at 7:49 PM

    Jesus….

  40. dcwx61 - Aug 3, 2015 at 7:49 PM

    is the ball carrying….wait till tomorrow

    • dcwx61 - Aug 3, 2015 at 7:50 PM

      it will be more humid

      WTH

  41. Ghost of Steve M. - Aug 3, 2015 at 7:49 PM

    That hurts a ton. 3-0

    • TheBigDummy - Aug 3, 2015 at 7:50 PM

      4-0.

  42. Mrsb loves the Nats - Aug 3, 2015 at 7:50 PM

    Wow…

  43. dcwx61 - Aug 3, 2015 at 7:50 PM

    c’mon FP put a positive spin on this

    • manassasnatsfan - Aug 3, 2015 at 7:51 PM

      He pitches great for 2 innings, then just quits on us.

      • dcwx61 - Aug 3, 2015 at 7:52 PM

        now i got to hear some more from my childhood buddies out in Queens
        yippee!

  44. manassasnatsfan - Aug 3, 2015 at 7:50 PM

    Fister cannot give up fly balls. He is a sinker ball pitcher.

    McCatty needs to fix his mechanics.

    Our pitching staff is totally is disrepair and McCatty doesn’t stop it

    • simalex - Aug 3, 2015 at 7:52 PM

      Honestly I don’t know how much baseball fister has left in the tank. W.o velocity, he’s got nothing, and he’s really got nothing at this point, as evidenced by every time he takes the mound, it seems.

  45. Ghost of Steve M. - Aug 3, 2015 at 7:50 PM

    Now Fister is throwing BP. What are you doing. 3-0 is bad enough but 4-0.

    • manassasnatsfan - Aug 3, 2015 at 7:51 PM

      Even his strikes are high

      • Ghost of Steve M. - Aug 3, 2015 at 7:53 PM

        Big location misses and lack of movement are a bad combination.

  46. Ghost of Steve M. - Aug 3, 2015 at 7:51 PM

    Still only 1 out.

    • manassasnatsfan - Aug 3, 2015 at 7:52 PM

      Fister knows what to do but is capable of doing. How on earth is expecting to good contract?

  47. Mrsb loves the Nats - Aug 3, 2015 at 7:51 PM

    Cant win scoring 0 runs….

  48. dcwx61 - Aug 3, 2015 at 7:51 PM

    he doesn’t need a pep talk….he needs a couple of hits from ian

  49. simalex - Aug 3, 2015 at 7:52 PM

    Fister, doing what he’s done all year — pitch terribly. Joke.

    • manassasnatsfan - Aug 3, 2015 at 7:53 PM

      He has to keep the pitch liw. It is not rocket science. His release point is up.

      McXatty needs to figure out why.

      • simalex - Aug 3, 2015 at 8:00 PM

        How big is Stras’ impact going to be, whenever he comes back? Pretty huge, I’m thinking.

    • Ghost of Steve M. - Aug 3, 2015 at 7:55 PM

      Mostly terribly. Pitched well in Miami where the stadium plays big. Nats Park playing like a bandbox for them.

      • Mrsb loves the Nats - Aug 3, 2015 at 7:57 PM

        Ha… remember my comments after that game…

      • simalex - Aug 3, 2015 at 7:59 PM

        Yeah — he’s had like 1 or 3 plausibly good starts.

  50. natslive - Aug 3, 2015 at 7:52 PM

    Uh oh….now the Nats need to hit on the 2nd time thru the lineup like the Dbacks have done

  51. Ghost of Steve M. - Aug 3, 2015 at 7:52 PM

    Peralta HR was on a changeup but the Castillo HR was a hanger 2 seamer that didn’t slide.

    • manassasnatsfan - Aug 3, 2015 at 7:56 PM

      Change ups are by nature are potential hangers . they are not suppose to be in the strike zone.

      • Ghost of Steve M. - Aug 3, 2015 at 7:58 PM

        Yes if they miss location and the batter times it. I think Peralta knew it was coming.

  52. senators69 - Aug 3, 2015 at 7:54 PM

    WTF! Gopher balls and no hits!
    And with the Muts winning so far, I am officially depressed.

    • manassasnatsfan - Aug 3, 2015 at 7:57 PM

      I am not depressed. I am pissed. Fister throwing the ball up is 100% mistake.

      • simalex - Aug 3, 2015 at 8:00 PM

        Yep.

  53. stoatva - Aug 3, 2015 at 7:54 PM

    So what happens if someday this team needs something more from its manager than a reassuring pat on the back?

    • senators69 - Aug 3, 2015 at 7:56 PM

      He’ll do nothing different

    • dcwx61 - Aug 3, 2015 at 7:58 PM

      Why would anyone want a Pat on his back (unless of course it pat sajak)

  54. Mrsb loves the Nats - Aug 3, 2015 at 7:54 PM

    Chip away guys… please chip away…

  55. TheBigDummy - Aug 3, 2015 at 7:56 PM

    Still within slam range..and it’s still early. Not over yet.

  56. Mrsb loves the Nats - Aug 3, 2015 at 7:56 PM

    We need base runners… so it okay to take the walk…

  57. dcwx61 - Aug 3, 2015 at 7:56 PM

    nice takes by mr tendon

  58. manassasnatsfan - Aug 3, 2015 at 7:58 PM

    Rendon 3-1 hanger he takes.

    Hope it doesn’t back fire

  59. Mrsb loves the Nats - Aug 3, 2015 at 7:58 PM

    You have got to be kidding me…. its like we are f*ckin snake bitten…

    • manassasnatsfan - Aug 3, 2015 at 7:59 PM

      No way that was going to be caught. I thought he be on third.

      Cost us one run already.

      • Mrsb loves the Nats - Aug 3, 2015 at 8:02 PM

        Absolutely… This crap is getting frustrating…

  60. manassasnatsfan - Aug 3, 2015 at 7:59 PM

    Damn you Escovarvout by a lot.

  61. Ghost of Steve M. - Aug 3, 2015 at 7:59 PM

    You know things are going bad when you get thrown out on a bloop like that.

    • manassasnatsfan - Aug 3, 2015 at 8:00 PM

      Means your eyes aren’t watching the play. Where the right fielder was no way he could catch that.

    • natslive - Aug 3, 2015 at 8:05 PM

      No way he shouldn’t have been on 2B at least – just bad baserunning…….ok now Desi come thru

  62. Ghost of Steve M. - Aug 3, 2015 at 8:00 PM

    Time for some hit & run with RZim up. Make something happen.

    • dcwx61 - Aug 3, 2015 at 8:01 PM

      +1

  63. coop202 - Aug 3, 2015 at 8:01 PM

    Time to sacrifice a chicken and shake this bad juju

  64. Mrsb loves the Nats - Aug 3, 2015 at 8:01 PM

    Come on FoF… Do something positive…

  65. dcwx61 - Aug 3, 2015 at 8:01 PM

    looking good mr Z.

    • dcwx61 - Aug 3, 2015 at 8:02 PM

      i meant on strike 2

  66. manassasnatsfan - Aug 3, 2015 at 8:02 PM

    Ump already calling balls a strike.

    Umps never feel guilty or they would fix the problem. And they dont

  67. Ghost of Steve M. - Aug 3, 2015 at 8:03 PM

    What was Ryan Zimmerman looking for there? Have to protect. You’re a veteran. Foul it off. Get the bat off your shoulder.

  68. simalex - Aug 3, 2015 at 8:03 PM

    I know I”m probably wrong, but I can’t help but wonder how much baseball Ryan Z has left in the tank.

    • Ghost of Steve M. - Aug 3, 2015 at 8:04 PM

      I’m wondering the same. He swung as hard as he could at some fat ones in NY and they didn’t even make the warning track.

      • simalex - Aug 3, 2015 at 8:05 PM

        His ABs now are just totally lifeless. It’s really, really sad.

      • Ghost of Steve M. - Aug 3, 2015 at 8:07 PM

        He had a nice pull HR and some line drives that were hit hard but the weekend was not good for him.

  69. Mrsb loves the Nats - Aug 3, 2015 at 8:03 PM

    So by my count… 2 of those called strikes were balls…

  70. senators69 - Aug 3, 2015 at 8:04 PM

    Need to sit Desi. Espi should be in

  71. Mrsb loves the Nats - Aug 3, 2015 at 8:05 PM

    Here we go again….

  72. dcwx61 - Aug 3, 2015 at 8:05 PM

    Bring back the JV

  73. coop202 - Aug 3, 2015 at 8:05 PM

    Please don’t swing out lf your shoes at three balls in the dirt…

    • coop202 - Aug 3, 2015 at 8:06 PM

      /talk the wallkkkkk

  74. Ghost of Steve M. - Aug 3, 2015 at 8:05 PM

    Way to go Blue. 3-0 pitch 6 inches outside called a strike. Luckily walks on the next pitch.

  75. veejh - Aug 3, 2015 at 8:05 PM

    Huge AB for Dez here. Don’t strike out. Don’t strike out. Don’t strike out.

  76. Mrsb loves the Nats - Aug 3, 2015 at 8:05 PM

    Lord Desi… please, get a base hit. I aint even going to be greedy… please.. do. not. k.

    • coop202 - Aug 3, 2015 at 8:07 PM

      His bat shouldn’t leave his shoulder…

      • coop202 - Aug 3, 2015 at 8:08 PM

        And… I’m off the desi wagon for the first time this year finally.

  77. manassasnatsfan - Aug 3, 2015 at 8:06 PM

    Desi is due

    Though he could have pulled a Tabita and got hit.

    • manassasnatsfan - Aug 3, 2015 at 8:09 PM

      Is to much to ask that center a hit and drive it not top it. If you topped it was heading low. Anything that is not a fast ball if it is liw let it go

      So disciplined until the last pitch.

  78. veejh - Aug 3, 2015 at 8:07 PM

    I’m wondering the same. He swung as hard as he could at some fat ones in NY and they didn’t even make the warning track.

    Didn’t Zim blast a HR his first game back from the DL?

    • Ghost of Steve M. - Aug 3, 2015 at 8:09 PM

      He did pull a HR when he got off the DL. That’s been it. The Mets were challenging him with fastballs.

  79. Ghost of Steve M. - Aug 3, 2015 at 8:07 PM

    Huge AB here for Desi to get something going for his team.

  80. Mrsb loves the Nats - Aug 3, 2015 at 8:08 PM

    Honestly… did anyone expect anything different?

    • dcwx61 - Aug 3, 2015 at 8:09 PM

      i was thinking he would actually fin walk

    • manassasnatsfan - Aug 3, 2015 at 8:12 PM

      There is MW could have made a real statement as a manager and didn’t.

      Could have pinch hit Espi.

  81. scnatsfan - Aug 3, 2015 at 8:08 PM

    On a bright note, going to Wrigley for the first time on Friday. Will be great to see a game and just enjoy baseball after the Nats keep stomping on my chest.

    • natslive - Aug 3, 2015 at 8:09 PM

      Great place to watch a game

  82. dcwx61 - Aug 3, 2015 at 8:08 PM

    blahhh.but this Godley is not a super hero.

  83. natslive - Aug 3, 2015 at 8:08 PM

    Darn Desi and Escobar taking us out of a potential big inning….very frustrating

    • manassasnatsfan - Aug 3, 2015 at 8:11 PM

      Escobar must paid attention to where the right fielder was as there was no way he catch it and should have been on third.

      Our batterscate not doing the little things as a collective.

      Half the pitchers have the same problem.

    • adcwonk - Aug 3, 2015 at 8:11 PM

      I don’t know how much to blame Esco. He went 1/3 of the way — it was hard for him to figure out whether it was going to drop or not.

      Desi, otoh, you can blame in that inning 😦

      • adcwonk - Aug 3, 2015 at 8:12 PM

        And RZ’s K.

      • Mrsb loves the Nats - Aug 3, 2015 at 8:15 PM

        That ball wasn’t hard to read, imo. Escobar should have been on 2nd, at least. Play was right in front of him.

      • manassasnatsfan - Aug 3, 2015 at 8:22 PM

        Wow my wife just home from a trip and I see Fister pisses me off more by giving up another run.

        Strasburg when he comes back needs to takes Fister’s slit not Ross’s spot.

        However Rizzo won’t do it.

      • natslive - Aug 3, 2015 at 8:29 PM

        MNF I don’t think you meant it that way but I read it as Fister pissed you off more than your wife coming home 🙂

  84. Mrsb loves the Nats - Aug 3, 2015 at 8:09 PM

    Its getting old real fast… inability to score runs… starting pitching not being as advertised…

    Frustrating.

  85. Ghost of Steve M. - Aug 3, 2015 at 8:11 PM

    How do you not score a run there? It’s not all on Desi because Escobar didn’t read the Rendon blooper well. Should have been bases loaded for Ryan Zimmerman.

    Zimmerman’s K was really bad and worse than Desi’s IMO.

    • Mrsb loves the Nats - Aug 3, 2015 at 8:13 PM

      Ryan got 2 pitches called strikes… which were balls right?

      • Ghost of Steve M. - Aug 3, 2015 at 8:15 PM

        He fouled off the 3rd pitch to make it 1-2. Not sure if pitch #2 was in the zone that made it 1-1 but strike 3 sure was in the zone.

      • Mrsb loves the Nats - Aug 3, 2015 at 8:18 PM

        And Im not excusing the at bat… just thought I saw 2 pitches, way inside that seemed to change the course of the at bat.

      • manassasnatsfan - Aug 3, 2015 at 8:24 PM

        Pitches 2 and 3 out of the zone. Pitch 2 called a strike, Zim swung at the third pitch a ball. But didn’t bother to swing at the strike that was strike 4.

        None of this has to do with tonight’s biggest problem. Fister has been pathetic the last 3 innings.

    • simalex - Aug 3, 2015 at 8:17 PM

      Pull him? Or just hope he can eat inning n save the pen for a more winnable game?

      • Ghost of Steve M. - Aug 3, 2015 at 8:18 PM

        Fister gives you the best chance for a GIDP here but this has to be it for him. They may have him hit for himself to save a pinch-hitter so that will be interesting.

      • simalex - Aug 3, 2015 at 8:22 PM

        what a truly useless outing from him. whatever he had last year has totally vanished into the ether. it’s just kinda sad.

      • Ghost of Steve M. - Aug 3, 2015 at 8:26 PM

        The lack of movement on that 2-seamer is incredible. A guy who could dip a ball and make any power hitter look bad has just cost the Nats repeatedly most of the year.

    • Joe Seamhead - Aug 3, 2015 at 8:19 PM

      Ghost, at the park, had s great view of the play with Escobar. The ball looked catchable. It was a tweeter that was tough to read for Yunel.

      • Ghost of Steve M. - Aug 3, 2015 at 8:25 PM

        Good to hear. Do or die then. Thanks for the read.

  86. dcwx61 - Aug 3, 2015 at 8:16 PM

    now let’s see if we can stop them with a runner on third and 1 out

  87. Mrsb loves the Nats - Aug 3, 2015 at 8:17 PM

    Please get a GIDP.. End the inning and get back to pounding Godley…

  88. dcwx61 - Aug 3, 2015 at 8:19 PM

    but ramos caught it

    • Nats105 - Aug 3, 2015 at 8:21 PM

      +1

    • Mrsb loves the Nats - Aug 3, 2015 at 8:21 PM

      Okay… that made me laugh… hahaha

    • simalex - Aug 3, 2015 at 8:23 PM

      LOL

      • dcwx61 - Aug 3, 2015 at 8:24 PM

        i’m staying positive until my prozac runs out

  89. Ghost of Steve M. - Aug 3, 2015 at 8:20 PM

    Well described by FP, not the best way to set yourself for a throw. Ramos handles that throw on the bounce.

  90. nattygoats - Aug 3, 2015 at 8:20 PM

    Anyone on this team who is a free agent should be benched. Fister and Desmond are complete garbage. Jordan is lazy. 3 homers in 5 pitches is either very lazy or very dumb. Span is ok. Rock meet bottom. Man what a terrible baseball team.

  91. Ghost of Steve M. - Aug 3, 2015 at 8:22 PM

    Fister has really put his team in a deep hole. Nats have to get some runs on the board here in the 5th.

  92. Ghost of Steve M. - Aug 3, 2015 at 8:24 PM

    Tyler Moore has a bat in hand and most likely pinch-hitting for Fister.

  93. nattygoats - Aug 3, 2015 at 8:24 PM

    Love how FP tries to justify squeezing into the playoffs instead of winning it easy will make them better. Playoffs? Playoffs.

  94. natslive - Aug 3, 2015 at 8:26 PM

    Random stat just because I was curious. Nats rank tied for 26th in DP turned with Dodgers, Dodgers rank 2nd in SO so that accounts for some of their low total, Nats rank 13th in SO….was curious as 78 turned in over 100 games seemed low to me

  95. Nats105 - Aug 3, 2015 at 8:26 PM

    McNally was 16-1 in 1969.

    • dcwx61 - Aug 3, 2015 at 8:27 PM

      but even they couldn’t beat the mets

  96. nattygoats - Aug 3, 2015 at 8:26 PM

    The last two games the SP hasn’t given us a chance to win. The great vaunted pitching staff has been anything but. Minus Max they have been very poor. Fister is doing a wonderful Dan Harren and Edwin Jackson impersonation. But hey at least Storen and Papelbon are fresh

  97. Mrsb loves the Nats - Aug 3, 2015 at 8:27 PM

    Nice hit on that hanger…

  98. nattygoats - Aug 3, 2015 at 8:27 PM

    Why is fister hitting? It’s 5. 0. Not 1. 0

  99. Ghost of Steve M. - Aug 3, 2015 at 8:27 PM

    You are playing for the bunt here with a 5 run deficit? Are you kidding me. You have to pinch hit for him and get something going.

    • dcwx61 - Aug 3, 2015 at 8:28 PM

      but then storen and paps may not be well rested

      • Mrsb loves the Nats - Aug 3, 2015 at 8:30 PM

        I love most of yall… and am respecting that this is a family blog… but man, I got some R rated words to say.. lol..

      • Nats105 - Aug 3, 2015 at 8:32 PM

        Saving them both for Saturday vs the Rockies.

    • natslive - Aug 3, 2015 at 8:30 PM

      Yeah don’t understand that

      • Ghost of Steve M. - Aug 3, 2015 at 8:31 PM

        Lousy bunt and shouldn’t be bunting anyway in that situation down 5 runs. Bring in the pinch hitter.

    • stoatva - Aug 3, 2015 at 8:46 PM

      Matt Williams will go to his managerial grave with a well-rested bullpen. This cannot happen soon enough to suit me.

      • Ghost of Steve M. - Aug 3, 2015 at 8:49 PM

        Had to pinch hit for him once there was a man on base. End of story

  100. Mrsb loves the Nats - Aug 3, 2015 at 8:29 PM

    Ugh my post wouldn’t go thru…

    WHY THE HELL IS FISTER BUNTING?!?!?!?!?!?

    • dcwx61 - Aug 3, 2015 at 8:32 PM

      you gotta practice for when you really need it ?

      • Mrsb loves the Nats - Aug 3, 2015 at 8:33 PM

        HAHAHA… Dude – you are making me laugh and I have to say thank you… lol..

      • dcwx61 - Aug 3, 2015 at 8:37 PM

        i’m glad to be of service…but now i need to get a da#n peach milkshake from chik-filet.. I am powerless over them and need some joy in my life now.

      • Mrsb loves the Nats - Aug 3, 2015 at 8:50 PM

        I should go get me an oreo milkshake… thanks for the idea…

    • nattygoats - Aug 3, 2015 at 8:32 PM

      Why the hell is Fister in a uniform. This guy hasn’t pitched well all year. I’d rather see Roark.

  101. nattygoats - Aug 3, 2015 at 8:30 PM

    That a boy fister. You are trash complete trash. And please fire the Bald Marine. This is just despicable. Shut up FP please. Stop making jokes. The team on the field is a big enough joke

  102. manassasnatsfan - Aug 3, 2015 at 8:30 PM

    That is a no brained both are safe.

    • natslive - Aug 3, 2015 at 8:32 PM

      Taking too long for that

    • manassasnatsfan - Aug 3, 2015 at 8:32 PM

      Safe by one frame at first. Safe on second as throw pulled him off.

  103. Mrsb loves the Nats - Aug 3, 2015 at 8:31 PM

    FWIW – Both runners *look safe* to me… but watch Fister be called out.

  104. senators69 - Aug 3, 2015 at 8:32 PM

    Hope Stras comes back good. When he returns, I hope Fister suddenly develops some issue where he goes on the DL. That way JRoss stays.
    Need to start Espi at SS and Rizzo better try to get a bat somehow.

    • Mrsb loves the Nats - Aug 3, 2015 at 8:34 PM

      Too bad J Ross is on an innings limit…

      • senators69 - Aug 3, 2015 at 8:38 PM

        Oh crap!

      • Mrsb loves the Nats - Aug 3, 2015 at 8:41 PM

        But I do agree with you that Fister has to have a sore forearm or a hang nail… something…

        Post season they go to 4 pitchers… Its a sin and a shame how Fister has dropped off this year.

    • manassasnatsfan - Aug 3, 2015 at 8:44 PM

      MW had a chance to make a statement and wimped out. Could have been pinched hit Espi for Desi . but instead he let Desi hit and that was a poor result.

  105. dcwx61 - Aug 3, 2015 at 8:33 PM

    fister was safe….glove did not react until he was there

    • Ghost of Steve M. - Aug 3, 2015 at 8:34 PM

      Agreed but not enough to overturn.

      • manassasnatsfan - Aug 3, 2015 at 8:42 PM

        What more do you need? Foot hits bag, next frame ball is in back if glove.

        I need no more evidence. Because they are covering up for there brethren this so called not enough evidence.

        There was plenty of evidence.

      • Ghost of Steve M. - Aug 3, 2015 at 8:43 PM

        More than that. Sorry. He was called out. If he was called safe he’d be safe. Not enough to overturn even though we all believe he was safe.

      • manassasnatsfan - Aug 3, 2015 at 8:48 PM

        Just call it the way it is. I don’t need evidence. I need to know the facts. Foit hit bag before ball hit back of glove. Only question . answer is either yes or not. When they say not enough evidence they are saying maybe. There is no maybe to that kind if play. Its either yes or no. Not rocket science.

      • Ghost of Steve M. - Aug 3, 2015 at 8:50 PM

        Yes, it wasn’t conclusive. Went the way the ump called it.

    • manassasnatsfan - Aug 3, 2015 at 8:39 PM

      Correct I don’t get this not enough evidence nonsense. It is either out or safe. No in between. Not enough implies they refuse to make a decision.

      I would love to be review guys for non Nats game because I am not afraid to make a decision like they are.

  106. manassasnatsfan - Aug 3, 2015 at 8:34 PM

    I hate this enough evidence crap.

    Either you are safe or out. Safe by one frame. How hard is that to call. Not at all.

  107. nattygoats - Aug 3, 2015 at 8:34 PM

    Yeah that’s it the Nats lose because the ump missed the call at first. Man that’s gonna cost us the season.

  108. Mrsb loves the Nats - Aug 3, 2015 at 8:35 PM

    I cant believe that Fister bunted… like my mind is blown right now… I don’t think yall understand…

    • nattygoats - Aug 3, 2015 at 8:39 PM

      Mrs B I know I come across as a terrible person. But when you see managerial decisions like that and talent like this playing so poorly it is maddening. I too am ready to kick my TV in.

      • manassasnatsfan - Aug 3, 2015 at 8:50 PM

        The players are trying to live your expectations. I am starting to get as pissed as you. However I still think we will win the east. When you get pissed you kiss the east away. I never will do that.

    • Nats105 - Aug 3, 2015 at 8:39 PM

      Ungodly

    • Joe Seamhead - Aug 3, 2015 at 8:44 PM

      Dumb baseball. I wearing my Davey Johnson jersey Weds and Fri.

      • Mrsb loves the Nats - Aug 3, 2015 at 8:46 PM

        I will be there Wednesday. May be there Thursday. With the way I am feeling right now, I just want my gnome then to come home.

  109. nattygoats - Aug 3, 2015 at 8:37 PM

    FP wants to know if MW keeps his challenge. I want to know if he keeps his job?

  110. Mrsb loves the Nats - Aug 3, 2015 at 8:38 PM

    Well there is the 5 runs, Storen will pitch tonight…

    • dcwx61 - Aug 3, 2015 at 9:14 PM

      and so many chances to give him work when you needed him

      • Mrsb loves the Nats - Aug 3, 2015 at 9:15 PM

        I mean, I knew it… I called it an hour or so ago that Drew would pitch tonight.

        Craziness. Officially done with MW.

  111. natslive - Aug 3, 2015 at 8:38 PM

    Going to keep watching but not posting anymore tonight because don’t want to use non family words on here…Go Nats.

    • Ghost of Steve M. - Aug 3, 2015 at 8:40 PM

      I hear you. I write %(&#&#(

      • Nats105 - Aug 3, 2015 at 8:43 PM

        6-0 Mets. 2nd place on the way.

      • Ghost of Steve M. - Aug 3, 2015 at 8:46 PM

        Looking that way. Fister cr@$$%* his pants. No offense again. 4 innings for the Nats to score lots of runs.

    • Mrsb loves the Nats - Aug 3, 2015 at 8:42 PM

      Oh man… I have hit the backspace button a few times… so I get it

    • Mrsb loves the Nats - Aug 3, 2015 at 8:44 PM

      Ive hit the backspace button a few times… so I feel you.

    • nattygoats - Aug 3, 2015 at 8:47 PM

      Use the R rated stuff. Any good parent wouldn’t let their children watch this. It’s too scary

  112. Mrsb loves the Nats - Aug 3, 2015 at 8:40 PM

    And Fister is back out there…. At any rate – how lucky are the Mets – they miss Scherzer and they miss Fernandez…

    • nattygoats - Aug 3, 2015 at 8:45 PM

      Mets aren’t lucky to miss Max. MW failed to set the rotation so Max would see the Mets. Mets aren’t lucky. They are a better team then the Nats.

  113. Ghost of Steve M. - Aug 3, 2015 at 8:40 PM

    OK, somehow Fister is still in there. Does MW think it’s a 1-0 game?

  114. simalex - Aug 3, 2015 at 8:42 PM

    Trea Turner, across three teams at two levels (AA, AAA), for two different organizations:

    .321/.372/.469 (.841ops)

    there’s a highlight of the day for you.

  115. senators69 - Aug 3, 2015 at 8:42 PM

    Das stinkt!
    Nur sehen, die deutsch spricht!

    • dcwx61 - Aug 3, 2015 at 9:16 PM

      and i am a donut

  116. nattygoats - Aug 3, 2015 at 8:43 PM

    Anyone else notice players smiling in the dugout and bullpen? This is really a cocky arrogant team who thinks they are good. You are 4 games over 500 and getting blasted AT HOME!! By the Dbacks. This team and its lousy manager deserve to lose. What a shame it is for the backups to have to move aside and watch the million dollar star players poop away the division lead which they held onto.

  117. Mrsb loves the Nats - Aug 3, 2015 at 8:44 PM

    I wonder if Dueces is at the game… getting him a 1 dollar hot dog…

    • natslive - Aug 3, 2015 at 8:50 PM

      Going to need a couple of $9 beers if he is

  118. Mrsb loves the Nats - Aug 3, 2015 at 8:48 PM

    What was the point of getting another inning out of Fister when we needed offense last inning…

    I want Mark or Chase or James or Chelsea or Bill to ask that question.

  119. nattygoats - Aug 3, 2015 at 8:49 PM

    Any chance MW gets the AX?

  120. Mrsb loves the Nats - Aug 3, 2015 at 8:50 PM

    Look dangit, we need base runners… get on base by any means necessary.

    • manassasnatsfan - Aug 3, 2015 at 8:53 PM

      Rendon did, but Harper erased fast.

  121. nattygoats - Aug 3, 2015 at 8:51 PM

    Rizzo builds a team to win now and the hires his friend Vinny Cerrato oops Matt Williams to run it. And run it he does. Right into the ground.

  122. manassasnatsfan - Aug 3, 2015 at 8:52 PM

    Harper elevate the ball.

  123. Ghost of Steve M. - Aug 3, 2015 at 8:53 PM

    Call up Strasburg and put Fister on the DL.

    • senators69 - Aug 3, 2015 at 8:55 PM

      + 33

    • manassasnatsfan - Aug 3, 2015 at 8:55 PM

      +33

      • senators69 - Aug 3, 2015 at 8:57 PM

        Hi 5 Manassas!

      • Nats105 - Aug 3, 2015 at 8:59 PM

        +58

  124. Mrsb loves the Nats - Aug 3, 2015 at 8:58 PM

    0 runs against Godley… 0

    • nattygoats - Aug 3, 2015 at 9:08 PM

      3 hits

    • JayB - Aug 3, 2015 at 9:10 PM

      This team is done and Matt Williams has to be fired tonight

      He is not be at manager that can win

      He incapable to leading or energizing a team and his in game decisions are worst in ball of baseball including high school

      Honest can Rizzo let this happen yet again and keep his job?

      • Ghost of Steve M. - Aug 3, 2015 at 9:13 PM

        Matt Williams doesn’t need to be fired tonight but his decision to bunt Fister was a bad one in a 5-0 deficit. I’ve been sticking up for Matt this weekend but that was bad.

      • BatBoy - Aug 3, 2015 at 9:14 PM

        Williams lost us Mets series! And now this!

  125. stoatva - Aug 3, 2015 at 9:02 PM

    Let’s drop five runs on ’em, right here, right now.

  126. nattygoats - Aug 3, 2015 at 9:03 PM

    5 runs in 4 games

  127. Mrsb loves the Nats - Aug 3, 2015 at 9:04 PM

    Time to chip away…. score 3 this inning.

  128. nattygoats - Aug 3, 2015 at 9:05 PM

    I hoped I would never have to say this in August. “. When’s football start?

  129. nattygoats - Aug 3, 2015 at 9:06 PM

    Please bench Desmond. Pathetic. Speaking of pathetic here comes the donkey

  130. Mrsb loves the Nats - Aug 3, 2015 at 9:06 PM

    I was just joking when I said Drew would pitch tonight… If he and Pap pitch tonight, I really will be done with MW.

    • dcwx61 - Aug 3, 2015 at 9:18 PM

      well done

  131. Nats105 - Aug 3, 2015 at 9:07 PM

    1st we save them now we gotta get them some work. WTF

  132. npb99 - Aug 3, 2015 at 9:07 PM

    All this negativity just isn’t going far enough! Here’s some options:

    -Fire Williams, and make Rizzo manage the team, or fire Rizzo, and make Williams the GM too. That’ll teach them.
    -Trade everyone who is playing badly. Trade them for low-talent minor leaguers, just to send them the message.
    -Ship the team back to Montreal. Or maybe Quebec City. That’ll teach this team not to piss off us Washingtonians!
    -Dismantle Nats Park and put the rocks back in the quarry.
    -Root again for the Orioles. No wait, that’s going too far.

    • nattygoats - Aug 3, 2015 at 9:10 PM

      Lol. Yeah dem Os is going to far. I’ll go 0 and 162 before I root for them

      • JayB - Aug 3, 2015 at 9:14 PM

        Agree

      • Ghost of Steve M. - Aug 3, 2015 at 9:14 PM

        -162 I’m with you there Nattygoats

  133. Mrsb loves the Nats - Aug 3, 2015 at 9:12 PM

    So… MW saved Drew… to pitch in a 5-0 game. I am officially done with him and want him fired.

    • nattygoats - Aug 3, 2015 at 9:14 PM

      Good for you. I agree. I go to citi field and in a tie game I can’t get Drew. But now. It’s laughable.

    • senators69 - Aug 3, 2015 at 9:15 PM

      Drew! Unbelievable!

  134. nattygoats - Aug 3, 2015 at 9:13 PM

    Storen in. Hahahahahahahaha. Ah Drew I hope you go to a real team next year that can win. You deserve it.

    • JayB - Aug 3, 2015 at 9:16 PM

      @keithlaw: I’m just surprised Williams is still managing the Nats after he faceplanted this weekend.

  135. Nats Fan Zee - Aug 3, 2015 at 9:14 PM

    Nats down by five, Mets up by ten. Except for about 5 weeks in the late spring, we have a very weak offense and did nothing to address it. The Mets got aggressive and filled some holes. I think they will burn themselves out before its done and if our guys get the stroke back, we will succeed.

    This is what second place looks like. Get used to it. I fear we will be here for a while …

  136. nattygoats - Aug 3, 2015 at 9:18 PM

    Hey since the game is gone here is something interesting. I go to Citi field this weekend with my Nats gear on and the fans are cordial. Ushers and workers very professional. Here’s our division rival who we are battling and play 19 times a year and the fNs are cool. I go to Bmore who is in a whole different league and my family and I are treated like trash by the fans, the ushers……. Terrible

  137. scnatsfan - Aug 3, 2015 at 9:23 PM

    What happened to this team

    • nattygoats - Aug 3, 2015 at 9:24 PM

      Matt Williams.

  138. nattygoats - Aug 3, 2015 at 9:23 PM

    This may be the lowest point of any season since 2011. I’m sure 2013 had its moments. But man after suffering in NY and now this I just feel like my dog died or something.

  139. stoatva - Aug 3, 2015 at 9:24 PM

    I can hardly wait to hear Matt tell us how okay things are, in his postgame presser.

    • dcwx61 - Aug 3, 2015 at 9:26 PM

      not for him

    • Nats Fan Zee - Aug 3, 2015 at 9:32 PM

      Oh yes … “it’s only a game, one game” …. “We have to just grind it out” …. “I’m aware of who is in first. They have good hitting, we have good hitting. It will come around. just grind!”

  140. nattygoats - Aug 3, 2015 at 9:27 PM

    I have gone from angry and pissed to just flat out depressed. This is really sad. This is the 2000 Redskins with Bruce Smith, Deion and Jeff George. And they go 500. Ugh

  141. dcwx61 - Aug 3, 2015 at 9:28 PM

    I feel great….ice cream really works!

  142. stoatva - Aug 3, 2015 at 9:28 PM

    Et tu, Papelbon?

  143. nattygoats - Aug 3, 2015 at 9:28 PM

    And Papelbon blows the save. Oh wait.

    • Nats105 - Aug 3, 2015 at 9:30 PM

      Damn….and I was hoping we’d hold it to 5-0!

  144. Joe Seamhead - Aug 3, 2015 at 9:31 PM

    To add insult to injury they have upped the volume to Fed-X field levels for the walk up songs. Painfully loud, almost dangerously so in the infield gallery.

    Well, Papelbon must want some extra work. This sucks.

    • dcwx61 - Aug 3, 2015 at 9:33 PM

      keith law
      Brewers fired Ned Yost with ~10 games to go in the middle of a pennant race.

      how did that work out for the crew

  145. nattygoats - Aug 3, 2015 at 9:31 PM

    Somebody just walked into my house, ate my food and pooped into my toilet and clogged it. Then left. That’s a metaphor folks.

    • manassasnatsfan - Aug 3, 2015 at 9:38 PM

      Actually I like that metaphor

  146. NatsLady - Aug 3, 2015 at 9:32 PM

    Watch us get exactly five runs in the bottom of the ninth.

    • manassasnatsfan - Aug 3, 2015 at 9:34 PM

      Better than 0

    • Nats Fan Zee - Aug 3, 2015 at 9:41 PM

      WOW Nats Lady, just WOW!

  147. manassasnatsfan - Aug 3, 2015 at 9:34 PM

    Wow tell me about strange bullpen management in games we were in in new York no Storen or Papelbon.

    In a game out of hand both.

    I am wondering what on Earth has gone heywire in MW’s head.

  148. manassasnatsfan - Aug 3, 2015 at 9:36 PM

    I wish they hire Ray Knight as hitting coach.

    I have yet in almost 2 years figure out the hitting thoughts of Rick Schu.

  149. dcwx61 - Aug 3, 2015 at 9:37 PM

    i would cheer but need more ice cream

  150. knoxvillenat - Aug 3, 2015 at 9:37 PM

    Calling Desi hits into a DP here in the 9th.

    • Mrsb loves the Nats - Aug 3, 2015 at 9:38 PM

      Ramos will.

    • dcwx61 - Aug 3, 2015 at 9:38 PM

      if he hit it just a tad harder….now it’s wilson’s chance

  151. knoxvillenat - Aug 3, 2015 at 9:38 PM

    Glad to be wrong.

  152. unkyd59 - Aug 3, 2015 at 9:38 PM

    Zim took a sweet cut at that one…😃

  153. Mrsb loves the Nats - Aug 3, 2015 at 9:40 PM

    I cant even bring myself to get excited.

    • Mrsb loves the Nats - Aug 3, 2015 at 9:41 PM

      Heart just started fluttering… and im actually laughin….

  154. dcwx61 - Aug 3, 2015 at 9:41 PM

    holy moly….Mrs B. i hope you are wrong

  155. manassasnatsfan - Aug 3, 2015 at 9:42 PM

    Jayson time to earn your damn money.

    You have earned non of your money this year, don’t you think it is time.

  156. dcwx61 - Aug 3, 2015 at 9:43 PM

    cespedes with 3 doubles tonight

  157. Mrsb loves the Nats - Aug 3, 2015 at 9:45 PM

    Why didn’t MAT go to 3rd?

    • manassasnatsfan - Aug 3, 2015 at 9:52 PM

      Not needed as he was not tying run. Not worth the slight chance of an out. Had he been tying run I would say a good gamble.

  158. manassasnatsfan - Aug 3, 2015 at 9:46 PM

    2-1 pitch and the best you can do is a 45 foot roller.

    2-1 pitches our opponents kill.

    We could have gone after Cespides, but no Rizzo thinks are hitters are fine. Side Cespides 4RBIs tonight.

  159. manassasnatsfan - Aug 3, 2015 at 9:48 PM

    Escobar’s last at bat to me not as bad as not knowing where the right fielder was. Should have been on third instead out at second.

  160. dcwx61 - Aug 3, 2015 at 9:48 PM

    oh well….at least Paps and Storen got some much needed work in
    ;(

  161. unkyd59 - Aug 3, 2015 at 9:48 PM

    Nice rally, guys… Missed it by that much…..

  162. natshabs - Aug 3, 2015 at 9:51 PM

    Sample size more than enough – it’ll be tough to score enough runs when our weak hitting line-up is paired up with MW. Hopefully they get hot and keep the race interesting.

  163. senators69 - Aug 3, 2015 at 9:52 PM

    I was beginning to think it was a-la the Red Sox – Yankees playoff series 2004!
    But alas…no..sigh

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