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Game 103: Nats at Mets

Aug 2, 2015, 4:24 PM EDT

Following another one-run loss to the Mets, the Nationals now enter Sunday night hoping to avoid a three-game sweep. The game will be on national television – like the first two were – as ESPN’s Sunday Night Baseball showcase.

Jordan Zimmermann (8-6, 3.36) will square off against talented rookie right-hander Noah Syndergaard (5-5, 2.70). The Nats have won six of the last seven games Zimmermann has started. He last faced the Mets two starts ago and led them to a win with three runs allowed in seven innings of work.

Syndergaard took a no-decision the last time he faced the Nats on July 22 when he gave up one earned run in five innings. He was dominant in his last outing with eight scoreless innings, nine strikeouts and no walks against the Padres.

Matt Williams made a slight change to his lineup today. He now has Yunel Escobar batting leadoff, with Anthony Rendon moving into the two-spot.

Enjoy the game and please check back for analysis…

WASHINGTON NATIONALS at NEW YORK METS
Where: Citi Field, New York
Gametime: 8:08 p.m. EDT
TV: ESPN, MLB.tv
Radio: 92.7 FM, 94.3 FM, 106.7 FM, 980 AM, 1500 AM, XM 89/869
Weather: Sunny, 81 degrees, wind 8 mph in from RF

NATIONALS (54-48)
3B Yunel Escobar
2B Anthony Rendon
RF Bryce Harper
1B Ryan Zimmerman
LF Jayson Werth
SS Ian Desmond
C Jose Lobaton
CF Michael Taylor
RHP Jordan Zimmermann

METS (54-50)
RF Curtis Granderson
2B Daniel Murphy
CF Yoenis Cespedes
1B Lucas Duda
3B Juan Uribe
LF Kelly Johnson
C Kevin Plawecki
RHP Noah Syndergaard
SS Ruben Tejada

UMPIRES
HP Andy Fletcher
1B Paul Emmel
2B Jerry Meals (cc)
3B Jordan Baker

435 Comments (Feed for Comments)
  1. zmunchkin - Aug 2, 2015 at 4:31 PM

    Completely off-topic to this blog post. In a couple recent blog postings (mostly Saturday I think), there was discussion regarding getting the pitch-fx data and doing something with it to see if our notions of incompetence, bias and so on are supported by the data. Ghost posted a link to umpires calling balls as strikes and vice-versa. Here is that link:

    http://baseballsavant.com/apps/umpires.php?sort=name&year=2015

    dcwx61 had suggested realjohn and I could pull an all-nighter to do some analysis. :-).

    Running the analysis is not difficult (not an all-nighter). Getting the data however is another issue.

    After doing some research, and contacting the guy behind the baseballsavant web site, I now know where the pitch-fx raw/detail data is. I just need to figure out how to collect all the bits and pieces I need. That will take a little time, but it is something I plan to do. And for your amusement here is the link to the XML data corresponding the first inning of the game on Friday:

    http://gd2.mlb.com/components/game/mlb/year_2015/month_07/day_31/gid_2015_07_31_wasmlb_nynmlb_1/inning/inning_1.xml

    There is a file for each inning, in each game, for each day of the month.

    Hopefully I will have at least a sample to report on soon (and no, I won’t define soon). Perhaps a more detailed look at the called balls/strikes along the lines of the link that Ghost provided – but broken down by home/away, team, pitcher, batter, and so on. May limit it to just July 2015 and Nationals games (for now). Once I have a working process in place, getting more data should be tedious, but not hard. Anyone who is a computer geek should be able to relate to that.

    • manassasnatsfan - Aug 2, 2015 at 4:50 PM

      Bottom line the umps miss too many like I suspect.

      Results batters swing poorly more because they never know what will be a strike.

      I flipping from game. My rule is can’t flip to next game until the next miss call.

      Fun game have flipped according to my tally mark 34 times since starting watch at 2.

      Most pitches right in a row a guess only maybe 15.

    • Eugene in Oregon - Aug 2, 2015 at 5:09 PM

      zmunchkin, et al.: I am in awe that you are even attempting this. Good luck.

    • Section 222 - Aug 2, 2015 at 6:45 PM

      Very impressive. Not that I understand much of what you said, but very impressive indeed. I tip my cap several times to you, Sir.

    • therealjohnc - Aug 2, 2015 at 7:24 PM

      You’re a better fan than I am, Gunga Din. Looking forward to the results!

    • veejh - Aug 2, 2015 at 7:28 PM

      this is taking stats to another, nother level

    • zmunchkin - Aug 2, 2015 at 8:04 PM

      In the interests of full disclosure I do have other motivations/reason for pursuing this data.

      I am a semi-retired, self-employed consultant and I make my living by helping organizations organize, access and analyze their data. And a colleague of mine and I are pursuing a book project with a software vendor (I’ve written two books with that vendor) on some innovative techniques to do data aggregation and reporting. It occurred to me that this would be interesting sample data for that project and is something that I would be interested in from both the technology and subject matter perspectives.

      And as I have and share samples/examples, I am hoping that the NIer here will provide good feedback and suggestions.

    • chrisrw109nats - Aug 2, 2015 at 8:19 PM

      Hey Munch. Not sure if I’ve mentioned this before. But I’m a web /database guy and might be able to lend a hand with this project. Honestly we should be able to automate the entire process once we can sort out the naming convention, reading it, databasizing it, and generating reports on the fly would be fairly simple.

      Only downside is that the next 3 weeks for me are completely hell, but if you’re not done after that point, I would love to help.

      • zmunchkin - Aug 2, 2015 at 9:24 PM

        Will do. I have a demo server that I can use for this and have a fair amount of experience with web based analysis. But more eyes and hands is always a good thing.

    • Section 222 - Aug 2, 2015 at 8:21 PM

      By the way, I look forward to seeing your results in part because I think it will put to rest the claims that umps are biased against the Nats or that we get worse calls than other teams.

      • zmunchkin - Aug 2, 2015 at 10:26 PM

        I am not going to offer an opinion one way or the other. I admittedly notice bad calls against the Nats more often the bad calls in their favor – that is the nature of being a fan. That is why I try to use objective data to make those assessments. And as you say 222, analyzing this data will hopefully answer this one way or another!

    • dcwx61 - Aug 2, 2015 at 8:52 PM

      brilliant work..i think your analyses could have repercussions beyond this blog and ask questions about umpire competence, consistency and bias.

  2. manassasnatsfan - Aug 2, 2015 at 4:33 PM

    Dale Scott home plate umpire in the DBack Astro’s game is simply guessing balls and strikes.

    Get rid of the umpire’s union if they are protecting poor umpire’s jobs.

    There has to be some people in the USA that can do that job a lot better.

  3. manassasnatsfan - Aug 2, 2015 at 4:34 PM

    I thought Jordan Baker called the plate last night. Please verify as you have Meals in the right spot.

  4. manassasnatsfan - Aug 2, 2015 at 4:46 PM

    Hawk Harrelson sounding like me in the Yankees at White Sox game Adam Hanari just called Adam Eaton out on a pitch about 6 inches outside a few inches above the ground.

    Hawk says only major league batter with any nerve is Bryce Harper. Says batters getting screwed left and right and the only one standing up for the batters is Harper.

    He said umps are much worse than 50 years ago and players back then yelled all the time at the umps. Big talk among retirees is how wimpy today’s batters ate. Harper is their hero.

    I was living that Harper is old school.

    I can hardly wait for auto correct.

  5. manassasnatsfan - Aug 2, 2015 at 5:05 PM

    Thanks now Andy Fletcher is at the plate.

    Let’s see if he is any better than Meals or Baker.

    • weprayforhisbuttocks - Aug 2, 2015 at 5:08 PM

      Andy Fletcher, better? If he is, it is by dumb luck.

  6. Mrsb loves the Nats - Aug 2, 2015 at 5:08 PM

    Good luck tonight Nats. Lets not get swept.

    Side note – So frickin glad to not see the Red Sox as I swear they own Sunday night baseball.

  7. philipd763 - Aug 2, 2015 at 5:12 PM

    When Span comes back, Werh needs to sit and Taylor needs to play every day in LF. Werth is a defensve liability in LF and his offense is non existent.

    • carlospaula - Aug 2, 2015 at 5:29 PM

      I tend to agree on Werth but maybe he’ll start hitting a bit after another week of AB’s…….However, that’s a lot of salary to just sit on the bench…..Makes GM’s look bad

      • npb99 - Aug 2, 2015 at 5:33 PM

        He was overpaid to come here. He needs to earn his spot on the field just like anyone else.

    • npb99 - Aug 2, 2015 at 5:31 PM

      Some posters will trot out Werth’s historic OPS, etc. to refute you. But I’m fairly skeptical as well. Taylor has a bright future. Werth not so much.

      • carlospaula - Aug 2, 2015 at 5:40 PM

        Dead money for the next couple of years….Werth and Zim…..Hope I’m wrong but diminishing skills and being injury prone?????

    • manassasnatsfan - Aug 2, 2015 at 6:34 PM

      +1.

      Not sure Taylor catches Duda’s double or not, but I know he would give it the old college try.

  8. naterialguy - Aug 2, 2015 at 5:44 PM

    I think they should move Werth to lead off so he goes into his contact mode tp get on base and see lots of pitches. I thought he served us well in that role last time when he came back from wrist injury until he regained his power.

    • donniebenth - Aug 2, 2015 at 5:55 PM

      You my friend are spot on. Without Span, JWerth, when in contact and take pitches mode, is our best lead off hitter.

    • texnat1 - Aug 2, 2015 at 6:56 PM

      I was thinking the same thing.

  9. natslive - Aug 2, 2015 at 6:22 PM

    Let’s go JZim and the Nats. I’d still like to see Danny over Desi but last time I said that Desi had a big hit so let’s hope the reverse jinx works tonight. I hope Denard is back soon – we really need him.

    • rlndtln - Aug 2, 2015 at 6:33 PM

      Although I agree the umps are horrendous that is not our big problem.We need to pitch better and hit better and the ump discussion will be gone.

      • rlndtln - Aug 2, 2015 at 6:34 PM

        Congrats MW you are Harp 3rd.Great job.

      • manassasnatsfan - Aug 2, 2015 at 6:37 PM

        The umps are not a Nats problem. They are a major league problem.

        They are getting worse as the season goes.

        Not just Nats game. I don’t blame losses on them as they can screw anyone any time, and the commissioner’s office is in complete denial.

      • manassasnatsfan - Aug 2, 2015 at 6:53 PM

        Iwrong this is my campaign since about 2009.

        Has nothing to do with the Nats, overall they are screwed no more than anyone else.

        The umps are getting worse and they are not accountable to anyone.

      • veejh - Aug 2, 2015 at 7:33 PM

        Clearly, you hate the umps, and wish everything was done with computers. It’s not gonna happen any time soon.

      • veejh - Aug 2, 2015 at 7:40 PM

        this was directed at MNF

      • manassasnatsfan - Aug 2, 2015 at 7:53 PM

        I see it 10-15 years down the line.

        I don’t hate umps, I hate their inconsistency.

        The plate is 4 feet in front of them hard can it be to see a cube 17 inches wide about 17 inches deep an barely 24-30 inches high.

        It’s the width they miss the most, but seems impossible to be so inconsistency.

        I will let it go for now, almost a couple local radio guys ready to jump my side.

    • manassasnatsfan - Aug 2, 2015 at 6:35 PM

      Great Desi will now have a big night.

      • rlndtln - Aug 2, 2015 at 7:08 PM

        Cardinals are not having much trouble with the umps,If you win all is cured.MW,Desi,Ramos and the umps.

      • manassasnatsfan - Aug 2, 2015 at 7:13 PM

        The umps are calling them bad there too.

        You are totally failing to understand what I am saying. You think I saying umps are costing the Nats.

        Never said that.

        I said the umps are inconsistent throughout the majors.

        My points the umps are hurting baseball not the Nats.

  10. natslive - Aug 2, 2015 at 7:23 PM

    Speaking of umps affecting baseball looks like they lost control as Royals-BlueJays and Reds- Pirates had bench clearing incidents today

  11. manassasnatsfan - Aug 2, 2015 at 7:33 PM

    Jim Wolfe really lost control 2 Blue Jays hit. Then warnings given. Two Blue Jays almost hit, nothing happens Blue Jays manager tossed.

    Blue Jays then hits a Royal and he is tossed.

    If you give warnings than toss earlier.

    • rlndtln - Aug 2, 2015 at 7:36 PM

      So they are hurting baseball we all agree.What is the solution?I only really care about winning.The eventual champion will have nothing to do with the umps.Why are the teams not doing something about them.Have not heard a peep from team management.

  12. TheBigDummy - Aug 2, 2015 at 7:43 PM

    I hope we can add a catcher this month and again in the off season. Wilson is a good story, one of perseverance, what with all of his injuries, not to mention the kidnapping/hostage ordeal. But the catcher spot is a weakness And it has to be addressed.

    • veejh - Aug 2, 2015 at 7:47 PM

      I don’t think catcher is that much of an issue this year. I agree, it would be nice to have a better catcher bat, and defense, but catcher is not a black hole right now. Worry about the starters bats coming alive. Rendon, Werth, and Zim need to step up and start to hit, big time.

  13. scnatsfan - Aug 2, 2015 at 7:44 PM

    Please win tonight Nats. My dog is tired of me yelling at the TV.

  14. manassasnatsfan - Aug 2, 2015 at 7:49 PM

    OK boys lets score early and often.

    JZim pitch like you know you can.

  15. natslive - Aug 2, 2015 at 7:52 PM

    Already tired of the ESPN guys so time for Charlie and Dave

    • manassasnatsfan - Aug 2, 2015 at 7:57 PM

      +1 I hope I can sinc it

  16. manassasnatsfan - Aug 2, 2015 at 8:01 PM

    Rick Sutcliffe said something interesting.

    Said more hitters the last month are swinging at first pitches as I generally say is the fastball easiest to hit.

    So pitchers will start pitch more off speed pitches on first pitches.

    Baseball acts and reacts all the time.

  17. manassasnatsfan - Aug 2, 2015 at 8:04 PM

    ESPN did show that Mets made the effort to improve itself more than the Nats did. Basically implying Sandy Alderson was doing his job better than Mike Rizzo.

    • rlndtln - Aug 2, 2015 at 8:07 PM

      The Mets had more to improve.We needed to get healthy.

      • manassasnatsfan - Aug 2, 2015 at 8:13 PM

        Granted

        We could of used Brad Zieglar.

        Also I wanted to go for Cespedes, and Rizzo must think we won’t have any more outfield injuries. The cost wouldn’t be to much.

  18. manassasnatsfan - Aug 2, 2015 at 8:11 PM

    Go Escobar.

  19. Section 222 - Aug 2, 2015 at 8:12 PM

    If that’s a sellout, there are some serious traffic delays to that park.

  20. manassasnatsfan - Aug 2, 2015 at 8:14 PM

    OK Rendon nice homer

  21. veejh - Aug 2, 2015 at 8:14 PM

    Rendon is officially back. Boom.

    • Mrsb loves the Nats - Aug 2, 2015 at 8:16 PM

      Thought he was feeling it yesterday. Close a few times..

      • veejh - Aug 2, 2015 at 8:17 PM

        he’s back. he’s gonna go on a tear.

  22. Mrsb loves the Nats - Aug 2, 2015 at 8:14 PM

    That’s a HR…

  23. Section 222 - Aug 2, 2015 at 8:15 PM

    That’s not a challenge my friends. The umps always take a look at a possible home run. Way to go TTB!

    • Mrsb loves the Nats - Aug 2, 2015 at 8:17 PM

      Thanks as I was just about to ask if the Nats have to use a challenge…

  24. manassasnatsfan - Aug 2, 2015 at 8:15 PM

    Review fixing non call.

    That ball bounced hard too

  25. Section 222 - Aug 2, 2015 at 8:22 PM

    There’s an example of a strike called for Znn that was called a ball.

  26. manassasnatsfan - Aug 2, 2015 at 8:22 PM

    Nice swing and contact for RZim taking ball to right. Had he tried to pull it he would ground to short.

    Harp pulled the same pitch and did an easy roller.

    Harp could bat 375 easy if he just took all outer half pitches to left. Just saying….

  27. Mrsb loves the Nats - Aug 2, 2015 at 8:24 PM

    1-0 pitch…. to Murphy? That wasnt a K…. hey twin, please post the Call hurts/helps on that….

  28. chrisrw109nats - Aug 2, 2015 at 8:25 PM

    So, because I guess I feel my blood pressure is too low, I’ll be hanging out in the live game thread tonight. Nice starting HR from Rendon, hopefully it’ll chase off the LoD for awhile.

    • sec112 - Aug 2, 2015 at 8:27 PM

      Can we maybe not do the score early then shut down thing tonight?

      • chrisrw109nats - Aug 2, 2015 at 8:41 PM

        That would be neat, yes.

        Honestly, I’m not panicking about little numbers against strong pitchers.. but I would definitely like guys to get back in the groove.

  29. Mrsb loves the Nats - Aug 2, 2015 at 8:27 PM

    Just noticed…. why no Ramps tonight?

    • manassasnatsfan - Aug 2, 2015 at 8:34 PM

      Because he is is non existence.

  30. manassasnatsfan - Aug 2, 2015 at 8:27 PM

    Paul Emmill must need new glasses.

    Charlie was shocked on the radio

  31. Mrsb loves the Nats - Aug 2, 2015 at 8:31 PM

    Yikes…. that was ugly werth…

  32. manassasnatsfan - Aug 2, 2015 at 8:33 PM

    Cal needs to revisit Desi.

  33. Mrsb loves the Nats - Aug 2, 2015 at 8:34 PM

    That wasnt a K for Zimm earlier… the high FB.

  34. Section 222 - Aug 2, 2015 at 8:35 PM

    How does Lobi get called for those check swings and Cespedes didn’t?

    • rlndtln - Aug 2, 2015 at 8:38 PM

      How are you going to beat these 3 guys they have.Next year they have 5.Robinson has to play against a guy like this and is only marginally worse than Jason in the field.Jason can not smell this guy.We need a shut out to win tonite.

  35. coop202 - Aug 2, 2015 at 8:35 PM

    I don’t normally get to watch games, but the start to this one has me excited to replace umpires

  36. manassasnatsfan - Aug 2, 2015 at 8:37 PM

    Riddle me this.

    How Cespedes check swing be a ball.

    Liboton which swung slightly less easily said he swung.

    That is the inconsistency at its best.

    I would live to have some techie put 50 pitches together in the same spot. Then have all umps watch the video and guess the call. Mix them all up.

  37. Mrsb loves the Nats - Aug 2, 2015 at 8:37 PM

    Lobi checked his swing…. sigh, I see where this is going…

  38. natsdial8 - Aug 2, 2015 at 8:37 PM

    Need this game. Zim looks a bit off he needs to settle and use this showcase. Think he will .

    • rlndtln - Aug 2, 2015 at 8:39 PM

      Need to have the computer call balls and strikes but that is years away.This is what we have.

  39. Mrsb loves the Nats - Aug 2, 2015 at 8:39 PM

    Jayson looks so uncomfortable in left field… his body movement made me a little nervous there..

    • Section 222 - Aug 2, 2015 at 8:40 PM

      I think he lost the ball in the lights.

  40. Section 222 - Aug 2, 2015 at 8:40 PM

    Gosh, these announcers want the Mets to win so bad we can taste it.

    • chrisrw109nats - Aug 2, 2015 at 8:47 PM

      Eh. Honestly, the struggles of the Nationals are a good story. At the start of the year, everyone had anointed the Nats as the World Series champs, or at least the favorites. We’ve struggled with injuries, our offense has scuffled, our pitches have struggled.

      All of that has made the Mets be able to keep it close, and they decided to take a shot.

      So you get these guys basically fellating the Mets live on air, talking about how Collins can now put a major leaguer on the field from his bench at any spot.. and ignoring the fact that the depth of the Nats bench is the ONLY reason why we’ve done what we’ve been able to do.

      It’s a much ‘better’ story to have the pre-ordained champs struggle and fail to make it to the playoffs, than it is to have the pre-ordained champs get devastated by injuries, come back and get healthy, and get into their groove just in time.

      Combine that with the Mets aggressive moves in free agency? And the story writes itself.

      The way I look at it, we traded for a Left Fielder, Second Baseman and First Baseman with great ML experience, and we’re going to claim a great Center Fielder and flame throwing starting pitcher off of wavers.

      I couldn’t care less about the story the ESPN guys want to tell, if we come back and get healthy? They’ll be blowing smoke our way soon enough.

    • natslive - Aug 2, 2015 at 8:55 PM

      That’s why I’ve opted for C&D early…..

  41. manassasnatsfan - Aug 2, 2015 at 8:40 PM

    Dave gave Fletcher hell then it was called strike 3

    • Section 222 - Aug 2, 2015 at 8:43 PM

      Dave?

  42. Mrsb loves the Nats - Aug 2, 2015 at 8:42 PM

    Great inning Jordan…

  43. veejh - Aug 2, 2015 at 8:42 PM

    JZimm looks solid tonight. D better be solid. This is going to be another close one. Just execute all the little things.

  44. veejh - Aug 2, 2015 at 8:42 PM

    JZimm looks solid tonight. D better be solid. This is going to be another close one. Just execute all the little things.

    • manassasnatsfan - Aug 2, 2015 at 8:50 PM

      +1

  45. Section 222 - Aug 2, 2015 at 8:44 PM

    Kind of a cool thing that the Mets’ starters go out and watch each other’s bullpens before the game.

  46. manassasnatsfan - Aug 2, 2015 at 8:46 PM

    JZim he wanted to give up a gift. At least you are not a hitter doing that

  47. natslive - Aug 2, 2015 at 8:52 PM

    Funny comment from C&D they are getting notes via Twitter that they have an increased audience as folks are muting a TV and listening to them.

  48. manassasnatsfan - Aug 2, 2015 at 8:52 PM

    JZim they are not swinging at the outside pitch

    • manassasnatsfan - Aug 2, 2015 at 8:54 PM

      Then he k’s the guy he calls it a ball.

      AndY Fletcher we can add to the clueless umpire school.

      What is so hard about calling the game correctly. It isn’t that hard

    • chrisrw109nats - Aug 2, 2015 at 8:55 PM

      Except they are, they’re just fouling it off.

  49. Mrsb loves the Nats - Aug 2, 2015 at 8:54 PM

    Noah got that call earlier blue…. dont start this bs…

    • manassasnatsfan - Aug 2, 2015 at 8:56 PM

      I am telling you the umpires on MLB are getting worse not held accountable.

      No one in charge appears to care as it is not improving.

  50. coop202 - Aug 2, 2015 at 8:54 PM

    I’m pretty sure we’d have five walks by now if we just didn’t swing

    • manassasnatsfan - Aug 2, 2015 at 8:57 PM

      No he is calling their pitches strikes in the same place.

  51. Ghost of Steve M. - Aug 2, 2015 at 8:56 PM

    This ump has already screwed JZim 6 times. Costing him numerous extra pitches.

  52. chrisrw109nats - Aug 2, 2015 at 8:56 PM

    Way to flash the leather Jay-Z.

    • manassasnatsfan - Aug 2, 2015 at 8:56 PM

      +1

  53. Mrsb loves the Nats - Aug 2, 2015 at 8:56 PM

    Jordan is an athlete….

  54. Mrsb loves the Nats - Aug 2, 2015 at 8:57 PM

    Noah gets the high K call… Jordan doesnt…

  55. Mrsb loves the Nats - Aug 2, 2015 at 8:58 PM

    Thanks blue… Jordan threw a K earlier.. and you bailed them out.

  56. Ghost of Steve M. - Aug 2, 2015 at 8:58 PM

    Now that missed K just caused JZim 3 runs.

    • manassasnatsfan - Aug 2, 2015 at 9:01 PM

      JZim had to pitch which he didn’t do.

      However why he in that position.

      The umpire basically could not do his job.

      Auto calls at least everything would be fair.

      • Ghost of Steve M. - Aug 2, 2015 at 9:04 PM

        I thought Lobaton was such a great pitch framer. He’s not even getting strikes called as strikes.

  57. Section 222 - Aug 2, 2015 at 8:58 PM

    Uh oh.

    • chrisrw109nats - Aug 2, 2015 at 9:02 PM

      Ugh.

      That Granderson homer is directly a result from the Ball 4 / Strike 3 call. Even beyond the fact that the inning should have been over before Granderson came up. They make a big deal of it being the Mets lineup being dangerous? Well that’s not what it is at all there.

      Granderson’s power zone is the lower half of the zone, if Zim can’t get high strike, then he needs to go down in the zone… and *boom*.

      I know *everyone* gets screwed by the Umps. But when the Blue has basically decided that the Mets starting pitcher is better, and is giving him a higher zone than he’s giving Zim than there really is nothing we can do about it.

      EXTREMELY frustrating.

  58. Mrsb loves the Nats - Aug 2, 2015 at 8:59 PM

    Yikes…. come on Jordan….

  59. manassasnatsfan - Aug 2, 2015 at 8:59 PM

    Three ours should have been recorded.

    Tell me those who defend the damn umps they don’t influence the game.

    JZim though has to get control.

    Murphy’s hone doesn’t count first pitch.

  60. TheBigDummy - Aug 2, 2015 at 8:59 PM

    Well now…that escalated quickly.

  61. scnatsfan - Aug 2, 2015 at 9:00 PM

    Somebody on this team show some fire

  62. Mrsb loves the Nats - Aug 2, 2015 at 9:00 PM

    Blue didn’t call the K for Jordan… and now 3 runs score… you can’t make it up….

    • scnatsfan - Aug 2, 2015 at 9:01 PM

      Spoke too soon

    • manassasnatsfan - Aug 2, 2015 at 9:02 PM

      5 runs now

  63. dcwx61 - Aug 2, 2015 at 9:01 PM

    ok…nats…you see how it’s down…if Mets can do it, so can you.
    I don’t want any more citi field massacre

    • chrisrw109nats - Aug 2, 2015 at 9:04 PM

      Yes, the Mets totally showed us how it’s done.

      Have the Ump consistently call high strikes as balls.

      That is the secret, how can we make that happen?

      • dcwx61 - Aug 2, 2015 at 9:06 PM

        hit the ball and we don’t have to worry about the umps

      • dcwx61 - Aug 2, 2015 at 9:15 PM

        if they can do it, so can we…that’s the point i try to make

      • chrisrw109nats - Aug 2, 2015 at 9:35 PM

        Yes, but your point is wrong.

        When Zim has a strike zone that’s roughly 60% of the size of the Nats zone? It’s much, much, easier for the Mets to square up on strikes and let everything else go by.

  64. Mrsb loves the Nats - Aug 2, 2015 at 9:01 PM

    Hopefully the Nats offense isn’t finished….

  65. natslive - Aug 2, 2015 at 9:01 PM

    Wow what happened JZim

  66. Mrsb loves the Nats - Aug 2, 2015 at 9:02 PM

    Are. You. Kidding. Me.

    • Mrsb loves the Nats - Aug 2, 2015 at 9:03 PM

      No dumb ass, it’s not.

      Do us all a favor. Go drink some bleach…

  67. dcwx61 - Aug 2, 2015 at 9:02 PM

    on a positive note, storen and paps are well rested..would have been nice to give it the old college try and use them in the previous two games when we were close.
    blahhhh

    • hummel26 - Aug 2, 2015 at 9:11 PM

      Using your closer in tie games is pretty routine in post-season, and MW should have realized that this series is critical enough that it merited a post-season approach. Mets are going to sweep (hope I’m wrong!) and feel charged up. Nats are still going to think they are the best team in baseball (the Cards, Royals, Dodgers, Astros, Pirates, Yankees, and probably Giants and Angels are better) and think it’s only a matter of time.

      But face it–the Mets rotation out pitched ours and our hitters are getting older or injured or have lost their hitting concept (or are young and finding their way). This team needed to take its weaknesses more seriously at the trade deadline–we needed to land a Hunter Pence to charge up the lineup.

      There’s still time, but unless Span comes back 90 percent or better and RZ, Rendon, and Werth deliver, there are some major worries. The wild card will probably outwin the NLEast winner, so the Nats need to win the division.

  68. philipd763 - Aug 2, 2015 at 9:03 PM

    Total humiliation!

  69. rlndtln - Aug 2, 2015 at 9:03 PM

    Forget the umps.We are an overrated team that I warned this was exactly going to happen.We have one starter who we can count on.We are done.Time to take out the golf clubs.Zim and Desi can forget the big money and the sad part we can not offer them because they will take it.

    • chrisrw109nats - Aug 2, 2015 at 9:06 PM

      I will legit pay each of you $10 bucks a day for every day you don’t post on the board for the rest of the season.

      • Mrsb loves the Nats - Aug 2, 2015 at 9:09 PM

        Dude… I will match you another 50.. how about it.

    • manassasnatsfan - Aug 2, 2015 at 9:07 PM

      You had the Braves last year so what.

    • veejh - Aug 2, 2015 at 9:07 PM

      I think you said it was going to be the Marlins.

  70. Mrsb loves the Nats - Aug 2, 2015 at 9:03 PM

    Make it 5…

  71. nats106 - Aug 2, 2015 at 9:03 PM

    Ugh. we’re back to April. Shoulda stayed in the Outer banks, but we were losing then too.

  72. rlndtln - Aug 2, 2015 at 9:03 PM

    Embarressing.

    • scnatsfan - Aug 2, 2015 at 9:05 PM

      So is your spelling. Use smaller words.

  73. TheBigDummy - Aug 2, 2015 at 9:03 PM

    Well, I know it’s early but this four run lead feels like 40. And adding insult to injury, this is on national TV.

    Ugly.

    • Andrew Wallace - Aug 2, 2015 at 9:07 PM

      Nobody is talking about this, but Matt lining up the rotation so that the mets miss scherzer two series in a row was utterly bizarre.

  74. manassasnatsfan - Aug 2, 2015 at 9:04 PM

    When the umpires make a blatent mistake it seems as often as not our pitchers throw gasoline on the fire.

    • Ghost of Steve M. - Aug 2, 2015 at 9:06 PM

      Never should have sped up Granderson’s bat with the curveball. 2 strike count you go back outside with the fastball. That rattled JZim.

  75. Mrsb loves the Nats - Aug 2, 2015 at 9:04 PM

    Regroup… refocus…. and get back to it.

    Blue, you owe the Nats some favors. Expecting you to make it up real soon.

    • rlndtln - Aug 2, 2015 at 9:06 PM

      I guess MW is happy he saved Storen and Pap .

    • scnatsfan - Aug 2, 2015 at 9:06 PM

      Boy I wish it worked that way. The makeup call will be too little too late.

    • chrisrw109nats - Aug 2, 2015 at 9:37 PM

      Yes, because the Nats have never come back from 4 runs down to win.

  76. Mrsb loves the Nats - Aug 2, 2015 at 9:06 PM

    Amazing how as soon as the Nats get down, everyone has a comment. Most weren’t around when the Nats were doing well…

    Wow, the ‘fan base’….

    • Ghost of Steve M. - Aug 2, 2015 at 9:07 PM

      They aren’t Nats fans. Clearly.

      • Mrsb loves the Nats - Aug 2, 2015 at 9:11 PM

        Mark will be real happy with the extra traffic, but it’s costing good people to leave and not want to come back.

      • Ghost of Steve M. - Aug 2, 2015 at 9:15 PM

        Exactly. Just trashed with Os fans. All I can say is 4-21-15

      • Ghost of Steve M. - Aug 2, 2015 at 9:15 PM

        You have joined in here and just do nothing but trash this team. My guess you are skincapwizO

      • chrisrw109nats - Aug 2, 2015 at 9:39 PM

        @skincapwiznat

        Please stop pretending you’re something other than a sociopathic troll who comes here to heap misery on people that are actually fans of the team.

        Being a frustrated fan doesn’t mean you come on the site and immediately start saying the Nats suck and the Mets will win the division and all the other bullshit you and your ilk spout.

        You make this an EXTREMELY bad site to come to on game days, and honestly at all.

      • Ghost of Steve M. - Aug 2, 2015 at 9:54 PM

        +162

      • Mrsb loves the Nats - Aug 2, 2015 at 9:45 PM

        Chris, he only comes around when the Nats lose. It’s obvious it excites him.

        He should go play in traffic or drink bleach like I suggested. It would do wonders for him and for us.

      • Ghost of Steve M. - Aug 2, 2015 at 9:56 PM

        He’s fairly new. I think first post was on Friday. Has a cool “name”. We’ve had other Oreo trolls with those types of names.

    • chrisrw109nats - Aug 2, 2015 at 9:07 PM

      I’ve been here, and I’ve been positive. I’m frustrated with this game, but honestly more frustrated with all the LoDers.

      The struggles of the team don’t make we want to stop coming here and supporting the team… the people here do.

      • dcwx61 - Aug 2, 2015 at 9:11 PM

        It’s only the 5th inning….a lot of ball to play and mets bullpen is toasted…but we need to get Thor out of here

      • Mrsb loves the Nats - Aug 2, 2015 at 9:13 PM

        Again, we are in total agreement…

  77. stoatva - Aug 2, 2015 at 9:06 PM

    Not too much doubt who has the best rotation in the division at this moment of the season, is there?

    Better plan to feast on the Least of the West at home. It should be an elite-free week of starters, should it not?

    • chrisrw109nats - Aug 2, 2015 at 9:10 PM

      Honestly? I still think we have a better rotation. Despite the current results. That inning was as much about BS umpiring as it was about Jordan’s pitching.

      And honestly if Thor throws another fastball at someone’s head? I want us off the bench.

      • dcwx61 - Aug 2, 2015 at 9:12 PM

        can you give just a little credit to the Mets hitters ? Do the umps really have that kind of power to make 3 hrs happen in one inning.

      • chrisrw109nats - Aug 2, 2015 at 9:41 PM

        I do give credit to the Mets hitters, but you can’t ignore that is a pitcher is forced to throw in the power zone of a Major League hitter, homers tend to result.

        The Duda homer was insane, we got him to swing at the exact pitch we wanted him to, and he parked it. So all credit to him.

        But Granderson? His power zone is low, Zim isn’t getting the high strike so he went for the low one, and Granderson parked it.

    • rlndtln - Aug 2, 2015 at 9:10 PM

      Thats something we never do up and in.We just take that and do nothing to get there players off the plate.

  78. TheBigDummy - Aug 2, 2015 at 9:07 PM

    This feels like reverse 2012 when we finally started beating the snot out of the Phillies and selling out Nats Park with Nats fans.

    We’ve been so dominant at Citi Field for so long that this feels like something out of the Twilight Zone.

  79. carlospaula - Aug 2, 2015 at 9:07 PM

    Nats FA’s not doing well this year

  80. manassasnatsfan - Aug 2, 2015 at 9:09 PM

    As madvas I am at the ump who created the problem I am much madder at JZim as hevjyst threwvgasoline all over it 3 homers on 5 pitches means he threw mostly meatballs.

    Those are all on him.

    He just responed poorly.

  81. natsdial8 - Aug 2, 2015 at 9:09 PM

    The umps didn’t hit 3 HR. Back to Earth all. Nats need to take care of biz.

  82. philipd763 - Aug 2, 2015 at 9:09 PM

    JZim watches $160-180 million melting away.

  83. BatBoy - Aug 2, 2015 at 9:10 PM

    Is Williama F’ing Nuts??? Duda hits 2 HomeRuns, and now this !!!?? They all walk Bryce!! Walk every time Duda! Makes me sick how Williams is such an idiot!! Shame on Williams! Walk Cepesdes last night to get to Duda! Really????? Why won’t Williams walk Duda!!! Shame! I say!!! I quit!

    • chrisrw109nats - Aug 2, 2015 at 9:12 PM

      Okay. Bye.

    • rlndtln - Aug 2, 2015 at 9:14 PM

      We have a better rotation?We need to drug test that guy who said that.The Mets may win the whole thing.If they get Matz back look out.I have been saying they are a big problem and you listen to idiots like PF andRay who are delusional.We are the most overrated team in baseball.As I have said our time has past.

      • chrisrw109nats - Aug 2, 2015 at 9:47 PM

        I said it, and I meant it.

        Scherzer & Fister are extremely good pitchers, who have post season and big game experience. Fister has had a tough year because he’s been putting everything up. His last start seemed a lot better and if he’s back to the guy he was last year, that’s an awesome place to be.

        Zimmerman is a dominant starter who has had some rough luck when he’s pressed because the guys behind him were hurt. When he’s not pressing (and not being squeezed by the ump) he has swing and miss stuff and total control.

        I like Gio, I think he’s a quality back of the rotation guy. He’s not going to throw lights out no-hitters, he’s generally gonna walk guys here and there and everywhere, but he can give oy 5 – 6 quality innings and keep the scoreboard clean.

        Ross / Strass. I honestly think Strassburg has the makings of a great pitcher. When he’s on he’s got scary good stuff. But he hasn’t been on this year. Ross is young, and it’s too small a sample size… but he’s got some interesting stuff and a good head on his shoulders.

        I am not listening to FP or Ray night (and honestly, fuck you for calling Ray Knight an idiot but that has to do with my respect for him personally and my disinclination to listen to a knuckledragger like you imply you know more about baseball than he does). I am looking at stats, and stuff, and having faith in my team.

  84. natslive - Aug 2, 2015 at 9:11 PM

    Ugly and you know it’s really bad when even C&D are complaining about most of the ump calls….The ump isn’t helping but that’s not why we are losing. At this point it appears the Mets want it more than us. Even C&D alluded to them playing with more fire than the Nats

    • Mrsb loves the Nats - Aug 2, 2015 at 9:13 PM

      If Jordan gets the high K that Thor is getting, Granderson doesn’t get the HR, nor does Wright or Duda…

      • natsdial8 - Aug 2, 2015 at 9:18 PM

        Again , patiently, the umps didn’t hit the HR’s .

      • Mrsb loves the Nats - Aug 2, 2015 at 9:19 PM

        And again, if Jordan gets the same call as Thor, neither do the Mets.

        You do realize that, right?

    • chrisrw109nats - Aug 2, 2015 at 9:15 PM

      Really?

      The Mets want it more?

      The Free Agents that need to win to add millions to their contracts, don’t want it?

      The players that have sat at home in October / November an watched teams that beat them go deep into the playoffs, don’t want it?

      Every player who went all-in for the season… doesn’t want it?

      That is, quite possibly, the stupidest thing I’ve ever read on this board from a LoDer.

      Yes, the Mets are fired up tonight at home. That’s one fucking game.

    • Section 222 - Aug 2, 2015 at 9:21 PM

      C&D complain about the umps all the time. It’s boring and embarrassing.

      • manassasnatsfan - Aug 2, 2015 at 10:12 PM

        Not to me they are to report what they see.

        How is that boring and emarassing?

        The umps should be embarrassed but they are clueless

      • Section 222 - Aug 2, 2015 at 10:24 PM

        It’s boring because you hear it again and again and again. Commenters who say the same thing over and over and over are boring too. Just sayin…

    • natsdial8 - Aug 2, 2015 at 9:31 PM

      Sorry I’m just trying to help you cope. Obviously a waste of time.

  85. chrisrw109nats - Aug 2, 2015 at 9:12 PM

    I’m honestly not sure that the Ump realizes that just because he’s wearing blue he’s not on the Mets.

    He’s giving Thor the high strike, he’s giving Thor 2 inches below the zone, and he’s giving him the outer half of the plate.

    That’s some impressive real estate to cover.

    • veejh - Aug 2, 2015 at 9:14 PM

      the crowd is feeding him, he can’t help it.

      • chrisrw109nats - Aug 2, 2015 at 9:20 PM

        And yet, if they can’t be a neutral arbiter they shouldn’t be behind the plate.

    • rlndtln - Aug 2, 2015 at 9:15 PM

      Guys forget the f..ing ump.

      • Ghost of Steve M. - Aug 2, 2015 at 9:18 PM

        You say that but the umping has been the difference in the entire series. It’s frustrating. When will the Nats get some f..ing calls!

      • manassasnatsfan - Aug 2, 2015 at 10:14 PM

        The umps have been terrible and the players reaction to the umping has been work.

  86. TheBigDummy - Aug 2, 2015 at 9:14 PM

    They’re playing with an energy and a confidence that we simply don’t have, at least at the moment.

    Hopefully the Nationals wake up soon. Go drink a Red Bull or something. Maybe a swift kick in the rear. The thing is, is MW the one to deliver that kick?

    • chrisrw109nats - Aug 2, 2015 at 9:17 PM

      You have the most appropriate screen name ever.

      • dcwx61 - Aug 2, 2015 at 9:18 PM

        please stop it.

      • TheBigDummy - Aug 2, 2015 at 9:20 PM

        It’s not just me, you can see it. They’re feeding off the crowd. Look in their dugout. All smiles, and why wouldn’t they be with the way this series has gone?

        The Nationals just seem flat. Or maybe as Jim Zorn said..”staying medium.”

      • chrisrw109nats - Aug 2, 2015 at 9:25 PM

        My choice are to either challenge when stupid things are said, or to leave the board and block it in my hosts file.

        Because the accusation that the Nats don’t have the ‘fire’ that the Mets do, when the Mets are playing before a sellout home crowd and getting every break? Is stupid.

        Are the Nats supposed to be cheering every Mets home run or something?

        It has been a bad series, and they’re obviously unhappy. But the same people who bitch about Harp getting himself tossed, also bitch that the team doesn’t show fire. You’re the same ones who bitch that Harp is batting third… and then bitch when he’s batting 4th.

        It’s stupid and pointless, and makes us look stupid as a fan base.

      • TheBigDummy - Aug 2, 2015 at 9:33 PM

        I haven’t complained about any of that. I’m just commenting on what I’m seeing here and if it’s not plainly obvious that these Nationals seem to have one foot on the plane back to D.C. already then you are just being obtuse.

      • dcwx61 - Aug 2, 2015 at 10:16 PM

        what one person says has no impact what so ever on you, me, anyone else or the fan base. They are powerless.

    • dcwx61 - Aug 2, 2015 at 9:17 PM

      i really think the mets bullpen is weak tonight. If we can get Thor out by the 7th, we have a fighting chance

      • nattygoats - Aug 2, 2015 at 9:22 PM

        Lol. Who’s going to hit the ball?

  87. Ghost of Steve M. - Aug 2, 2015 at 9:16 PM

    That’s how Harp has to get to balls without trying to deke runners. Go hard and if they go they will be out.

    • rlndtln - Aug 2, 2015 at 9:23 PM

      Ghost you are a lot smarter than that.The difference in the series is the Mets pitching.They were smart to lineup the 3 for both series and we thought no big deal we are better than them and can win.Outside of Max we are not close to those 3 let alone when Wheeler and Matz get back.Any body who thought they would not hit all year was delusional.Now they made a few moves and Just might have the best chance when you get to October.I would not bet against those 3 in October when 98 becomes 100.They are the real deal.

      • Ghost of Steve M. - Aug 2, 2015 at 9:27 PM

        I disagree. They are good 1 to 3. They can be beat. We saw it last week in Washington.

      • chrisrw109nats - Aug 2, 2015 at 9:28 PM

        Really? Anyone who thought they wouldn’t hit all year was delusional?

        The Mets HAVEN’T hit all year. They have scored 60 runs fewer than the Nats. They are LAST in the league in batting average. 100 games isn’t an anomaly. They made trades because they could not hit.

        With the exception of Lucas Duda’s sudden resurgence, the guys they’re gonna get runs from are NOT the guys who’ve been whiffing all year.

      • manassasnatsfan - Aug 2, 2015 at 10:18 PM

        They have gotten the callsvtrue.

        But our pitchers had to do is double down. Instead they folded.

        Take away 5 pitches RZim. Why he lose your compoture and throw 3 meatballs in 5 pitches for 5 runs.

        Umps didn’t do that JZim did all that.

  88. chrisrw109nats - Aug 2, 2015 at 9:18 PM

    I would really like Schilling to shut up, because he says the stupidest things.

    Just stated that Zimmermann knows that the Nats aren’t going to put up 3 or 4 runs per game, and implies that Thor doesn’t have that problem.

    Fun fact:
    Nats runs per game: 4.14
    Mets runs per game: 3.54

    I find it funny that one bad series makes people completely forget how, y’know… baseball works.

    • Ghost of Steve M. - Aug 2, 2015 at 9:20 PM

      Of course and where’s the standings worse case after this game? Worse case tie for 1st. They want to play out the season like they know.

      • Mrsb loves the Nats - Aug 2, 2015 at 9:22 PM

        Sorry Twin…. season ended 7/31… actually predictions were made in March… so this is all for nothing..

      • Ghost of Steve M. - Aug 2, 2015 at 9:25 PM

        LOL

      • Ghost of Steve M. - Aug 2, 2015 at 9:30 PM

        What place worse case will the Nats be in after tonight’s game?

      • Ghost of Steve M. - Aug 2, 2015 at 9:34 PM

        That’s right. 1st place. That’s what matters. This is 1 game out of 162.

      • chrisrw109nats - Aug 2, 2015 at 9:49 PM

        @skincapwiznat

        You’re funny.

        So your doom and gloom trolling is the truth… but when I quote ACTUAL stats, I’m idiotic?

        Go play in traffic.

      • Ghost of Steve M. - Aug 2, 2015 at 9:57 PM

        Guarantee we can’t find a Twitter handle for him that shows he’s ever been to a Nats game other than to root against them.

      • Ghost of Steve M. - Aug 2, 2015 at 9:55 PM

        Give us your twitter handle. That may tell us who you are.

      • Ghost of Steve M. - Aug 2, 2015 at 10:04 PM

        Of course you do but I’m sure it’s OsLover. Why don’t you troll on another site.

      • Ghost of Steve M. - Aug 2, 2015 at 10:04 PM

        This team doesn’t look bad and doesn’t suck. That’s why you’re a troll. A true fan wouldn’t say that.

      • Ghost of Steve M. - Aug 2, 2015 at 10:11 PM

        1st place and that’s a fact.

    • veejh - Aug 2, 2015 at 9:21 PM

      Mets improved their offense. Who cares about those previous stats? Lets worry about the stats moving forward.

    • dcwx61 - Aug 2, 2015 at 9:21 PM

      another fun fact….those stats do not include the 3 Johnson, Uribe or Cespedes….big buddy

      • chrisrw109nats - Aug 2, 2015 at 9:29 PM

        And this 1 game, does not reflect future performance through the remain 60 games of the season, for either team.

      • dcwx61 - Aug 2, 2015 at 9:38 PM

        OF course…who in all the world said that one game gives any indication of how a team will perform….Please try to stay on point.
        And BTW,, now you are arguing against looking at the stats you gave us.

      • chrisrw109nats - Aug 2, 2015 at 9:53 PM

        No. I’m really NOT arguing against looking at those stats, nor am I changing the argument.

        Are the Mets a better team since they made the trades? Yep.

        But they’ve also scored 2.5 runs per game since they made those trades. So tonight’s 5 run performance is just as much an aberration when compared to the ‘new look’ Mets as it is when compared to the previous 100 games.

        As far as who said that one game gives any indication of how a team will perform? That would be you guys, calling the Mets world beaters because they scored 5 runs today.

      • dcwx61 - Aug 2, 2015 at 10:27 PM

        I agree 100% that any one game does not tell you much about future. I don’t think everyone is calling the mets world beaters…Why would anyone make that statement. Their bullpen is flawed, they have holes in their lineup, their pitchers are very young and will likely start to make more mistakes as they are further exposed and tire….
        Did someone call the Mets world beaters ?
        If they did, does it really matter. Does what they say have any impact on what you think or how the Nats play ?

    • natslive - Aug 2, 2015 at 9:33 PM

      Schilling is just a shill……

  89. nattygoats - Aug 2, 2015 at 9:21 PM

    Just got back from Citi field. Sat and watched the Nats poop the bed Friday and Saturday nights. This is a bad baseball team. With a bad manager. Way overrated and going nowhere. Put the bench guys back in. Werth, Ramos, Desmond are awful. And Bryce is just a big baby who only tries to hit homers

    • Danny - Aug 2, 2015 at 9:25 PM

      Thanks for the input friendo

      • rlndtln - Aug 2, 2015 at 9:37 PM

        Nattygoat.well said

      • rlndtln - Aug 2, 2015 at 9:51 PM

        Batboy.You are right on.

  90. natsdial8 - Aug 2, 2015 at 9:23 PM

    Just wondering , why would they bring back werth in a
    critical series ? Leave Michael in and let werth ease in .

  91. Mrsb loves the Nats - Aug 2, 2015 at 9:25 PM

    Why keep swinging at the first pitch… why…

  92. nattygoats - Aug 2, 2015 at 9:25 PM

    ESPN is depicable It’s all mets. They want NY so much. But the Nats do nothing about it. Just content to go home with tail between the legs

  93. dcwx61 - Aug 2, 2015 at 9:25 PM

    grew up in the shadow of shea..hating the mets (I was a yanks fan, don’t ask me why). I get cranky when the mets look good no matter who they beat

    • nattygoats - Aug 2, 2015 at 9:27 PM

      The fans were actually very nice. But this series is just a nightmare. The Nats just flat out suck

  94. Mrsb loves the Nats - Aug 2, 2015 at 9:26 PM

    That was a K???

    • nattygoats - Aug 2, 2015 at 9:27 PM

      Terrible call

  95. Section 222 - Aug 2, 2015 at 9:28 PM

    The ESPN guys are pathetic. Desi called out on a clear ball, and they’re all over how great Syndegaard is.

    • Mrsb loves the Nats - Aug 2, 2015 at 9:29 PM

      The guy behind the plate has been pathetic tonight… if Jordan and Thor get the same calls, it’s still 1-0, as we know…

      This entire series the umpiring has been indefensible.

    • veejh - Aug 2, 2015 at 9:31 PM

      Who cares? I’m surprised how many fans are disturbed by the bias of announcers.

    • nattygoats - Aug 2, 2015 at 9:37 PM

      If you want ESPN guys to shut up then come in and kick the Mets ass. The same way the Skins silenced that jackass Dierdorf in Super Bowl 22

  96. stoatva - Aug 2, 2015 at 9:28 PM

    Just guessing, these umpires are, about the location of pitches moving at that velocity with that kind of movement.

    • rlndtln - Aug 2, 2015 at 9:34 PM

      The Mets remind me of the 69 Mets but this team has 3 Aces versus Seaver and Koosman.I guarantee you MW will change the rotation so Max can pitch against them the next 2 series.He is a slow learner and I did say everybody is smarter than us.Yes delusional if you thought they would not hit all year.They will now score enough with these starters to win.The new additions plus Duda ,Granderson,Darnaud and the others will be maybe as good as us,since they do not face there staff.

      • Section 222 - Aug 2, 2015 at 9:54 PM

        Hey, but at least he’s batting Harper 3rd, right?

      • chrisrw109nats - Aug 2, 2015 at 9:55 PM

        I love comments like this that are reflective of how little you know about baseball in general, and the 69 Mets specifically.

  97. Section 222 - Aug 2, 2015 at 9:28 PM

    It’s alot easier to be a great pitcher when you are getting all the calls.

    • Ghost of Steve M. - Aug 2, 2015 at 9:30 PM

      Just like Harp’s point on Greinke. Great pitchers don’t need the extra help. The box should be the same for both pitchers.

      • Mrsb loves the Nats - Aug 2, 2015 at 9:31 PM

        Desi was going to K anyway…. he didn’t need the help…

    • rlndtln - Aug 2, 2015 at 9:36 PM

      You are delusional.we are getting our ass beat plain and simple.Tip your hat they are better.Jzim is average,Stras stinks,Gio is up and down.We can not compare.

      • nattygoats - Aug 2, 2015 at 9:49 PM

        Well said. I didn’t want to believe it. But what I saw this weekend made me sick. Now if we can’t take 6 of the next 7 we truly are finished.

      • Section 222 - Aug 2, 2015 at 9:56 PM

        Oh natty, really? we must win 6 of 7 or we’re through? That’s laughable.
        I respect the fact that you went up to Shea, I mean Citi, and I’m sorry you had to endure two tough losses, but there’s no need to overreact. Just win series, that’s all we have to do. You know that, right?

  98. nattygoats - Aug 2, 2015 at 9:30 PM

    The Mets are better than the Nats. The season is over. Better pitching better hitting and more heart. Nats are dead. Embarrassing season. I hope Werth brakes his arm again. Because MW doesn’t have the guts to sit him. MW. Should be fired after the season.

  99. everendp - Aug 2, 2015 at 9:32 PM

    Bed time

  100. BatBoy - Aug 2, 2015 at 9:32 PM

    Baseball is not a game to me., It’s a life! F Williams for not walking Duda this whole series! Bryce is walked 24/7!!! Remember Williams taking Jordan out with 1 out to get and Drew came in !! Williams should have walked Duda every time at bat! Shame on him! Williams just awful managing and horrific calls ! As a Season Ticket Holdet for 10 years!!! I will not renew!!

    • nattygoats - Aug 2, 2015 at 9:34 PM

      Good for you. Gave up Skins tickets after 30 years for the same reason. MW may actually be dumber than Gruden.

    • BatBoy - Aug 2, 2015 at 9:38 PM

      Why would you leave Ross in to pitch the 7th? Matt? Hang him out to dry?? Gosh, thought we we had 7th, 8th, 9th!!! Ain’t, Drew, And Paps, enough! ??? Jesen in 7th? Rizzo! Really!! R

  101. chrisrw109nats - Aug 2, 2015 at 9:32 PM

    ‘Perfectly Located down and away’…. 3 inches off the plate.

    Shilling raving how Desmond was looking for a pitch he didn’t get…. because he was looking for a pitch in the strike zone and was rung up on a ball. Ugh.

  102. nattygoats - Aug 2, 2015 at 9:32 PM

    Yes the umps suck. But enough already. Quit blaming the umps. Crying and excuses are for losers. Nats are losers

    • manassasnatsfan - Aug 2, 2015 at 9:49 PM

      The umps suck. JZim after that through gasoline on the fire the umpire started.

      The umps start fires, our pitchers need to put them out.

  103. dcwx61 - Aug 2, 2015 at 9:39 PM

    chipping away to get to the tired mets bp

    • Mrsb loves the Nats - Aug 2, 2015 at 9:42 PM

      Very surprised that Familia may be available today..

      • dcwx61 - Aug 2, 2015 at 9:43 PM

        is he available ??? i seriously doubt it ???

      • Mrsb loves the Nats - Aug 2, 2015 at 9:46 PM

        According to Mark’s twitter….

      • dcwx61 - Aug 2, 2015 at 9:48 PM

        oh thanks…
        zimm almost

  104. dcwx61 - Aug 2, 2015 at 9:42 PM

    hello, espn…the nats are making some noise

  105. natsdial8 - Aug 2, 2015 at 9:42 PM

    Nats are in this . Keep grinding .

  106. dcwx61 - Aug 2, 2015 at 9:46 PM

    so Thor is fallible…now what can the espn announcers talk about

  107. natsdial8 - Aug 2, 2015 at 9:46 PM

    ESPN announcers definately bad. They have zero projection .

  108. Mrsb loves the Nats - Aug 2, 2015 at 9:46 PM

    No double play zimm, please…. no dp…

    • chrisrw109nats - Aug 2, 2015 at 10:01 PM

      Ugh. There’s no defense against the bad strike zone.

      He’s giving pitches 2 inches off to both lefties and righties, and giving Thor strikes 2 inches under the zone.

      Awesome to hear Schilling laughing at those calls.

      FFS.

  109. manassasnatsfan - Aug 2, 2015 at 9:47 PM

    RZim cone on fast balls only that are strikes.

    By the way strike 2 was outsidr

  110. Mrsb loves the Nats - Aug 2, 2015 at 9:47 PM

    Man this blue and the SZ is laughable….

    • manassasnatsfan - Aug 2, 2015 at 9:50 PM

      Is hiscstrije zone equally bad? I don’t think so. We will see at the end.

  111. natslive - Aug 2, 2015 at 9:49 PM

    Come on Jayson

  112. dcwx61 - Aug 2, 2015 at 9:49 PM

    people say the yanks fans are nasty….the mets fans are the biggest a** in my professional opinion

    • manassasnatsfan - Aug 2, 2015 at 9:51 PM

      To me Red Sox fans are.

      • dcwx61 - Aug 2, 2015 at 9:55 PM

        I don’t like Sox fans but I do respect their undying commitment and baseball acumen. I was amazed when I was as Fenway…no obnoxious loud music to get the fans in the game or start a cheer. They start them and they go to the game to watch the game and not to just get drunk or wait for the fan of the game voting

    • nattygoats - Aug 2, 2015 at 9:52 PM

      I had zero problems with any of them this weekend. Now I was in good seats so maybe that helped. Buy the whole city of NY is crap

  113. BatBoy - Aug 2, 2015 at 9:51 PM

    Umpire, really!!! Sucks!

    • BatBoy - Aug 2, 2015 at 9:55 PM

      I quit! Umps in the back pocket of Vegas!! As is Williams!! Honestly!

  114. rlndtln - Aug 2, 2015 at 9:52 PM

    Against these tough righties we are not left handed enough.Jason needs to sit and let Robinson play.He gave us more than Jason.

    • nattygoats - Aug 2, 2015 at 9:55 PM

      Absolutely correct. Werth should retire. He is a disgrace

  115. manassasnatsfan - Aug 2, 2015 at 9:53 PM

    Anyone keeping track 4 homers tonight.

    3 on first pitch fast balls.

    Just keeping track.

  116. nattygoats - Aug 2, 2015 at 9:54 PM

    Baltimore worst fans. I gotta Zimm jersey with cheese sauce on it to prove it. Rednecks

    • manassasnatsfan - Aug 2, 2015 at 9:59 PM

      O fans nothing compared to Red Sox

      • Ghost of Steve M. - Aug 2, 2015 at 10:01 PM

        The Os played a depleted Tigers team and still lost 2 games in their series. No Cespedes, no Miguel Cabrera, no David Price. no Joaquin Soria.

      • rlndtln - Aug 2, 2015 at 10:37 PM

        That kind of pitching is what Championships are about.We have only Max that can close to that.They have 3 guys now and 5 next year.Tip tour cap.

      • Ghost of Steve M. - Aug 2, 2015 at 10:41 PM

        I guess you didn’t watch the Nats starters in 2014 playoffs. All were dominant. You can’t even be honest in your incessant negativity.

      • Ghost of Steve M. - Aug 2, 2015 at 10:44 PM

        I wasn’t responding to you rather to rintintin.

      • rlndtln - Aug 2, 2015 at 10:46 PM

        that was 2014 it is now 2015.

      • Ghost of Steve M. - Aug 2, 2015 at 10:47 PM

        Right, and I expect great starting pitching in this year’s playoffs.

      • rlndtln - Aug 2, 2015 at 10:58 PM

        You will get it as the Mets sure have great starting pitching.

      • rlndtln - Aug 2, 2015 at 10:59 PM

        Forget for a minute the Mets starting pitching.We did not gat a run from there bullpen in almost 9 innings.

      • rlndtln - Aug 2, 2015 at 11:02 PM

        5 Runs in 30 innings.You can not win no matter who the umpire is.Complaining about the umpires sounds like what you hear at a little league game.It is a waste of time and is for losers.

      • Ghost of Steve M. - Aug 2, 2015 at 11:01 PM

        I’ve said all year to the doubters that deGrom is Aces. He’s amazing. The other 2 are very good

      • rlndtln - Aug 2, 2015 at 10:42 PM

        The difference is there pitchers are 22 years old.There fans are much more into the game than ours.They are out for blood.Just listen to them.

      • rlndtln - Aug 2, 2015 at 10:44 PM

        Now the ultimate insult we have to have Clip shut us down.We could have gotten him to pitch the 7th but let the Mets get him for next to nothing.

      • manassasnatsfan - Aug 2, 2015 at 10:57 PM

        There Rizzo did a poor job.

        Could have have Cespedes too Rizzo again staying Pat.

      • coolhandbane - Aug 2, 2015 at 10:58 PM

        Is that a good thing or bad thing? I believe chanting “Jayson Werth-less” is rude and shows they have no class. You also dont see Nats fans throwing home runs hit by opponents back onto the field at nats park.

        Glad we are coming home. See you tomorrow at the ballpark

      • rlndtln - Aug 2, 2015 at 10:45 PM

        Thats was to 2014.this is 2015.

  117. tcostant - Aug 2, 2015 at 9:56 PM

    And in other news, post season invoice go out tomorrow, no kidding…

    • nattygoats - Aug 2, 2015 at 9:57 PM

      Lol

    • Section 222 - Aug 2, 2015 at 9:58 PM

      I think it’s renewals for ’16 that are going out tomorrow. Postseason will be later this month.

      • tcostant - Aug 2, 2015 at 10:02 PM

        Both come out. Renew early and get an extra postseason strip.

      • Section 222 - Aug 3, 2015 at 6:18 PM

        Right you are/were. Might as well get the sticker shock all in one dose.

  118. manassasnatsfan - Aug 2, 2015 at 9:58 PM

    Andy Fletcher iscsqueezing Zim. I can’t see that Syndegarde has been squeezed at all.

    • Mrsb loves the Nats - Aug 2, 2015 at 10:00 PM

      It’s been like this all night…

    • chrisrw109nats - Aug 2, 2015 at 10:02 PM

      He’s getting squeezed.

      He’s getting warm loving hugs.

  119. Ghost of Steve M. - Aug 2, 2015 at 9:59 PM

    How many ball strike calls will be missed. There’s another against Plawecki. What a complete embarassment for MLB umpires.

    1 bad call was like a fielding error. 5 runs scored after it as the inning should have ended with no runs scored.

  120. dcwx61 - Aug 2, 2015 at 9:59 PM

    hey announcer genius…the nats had 5 starters injured. can you possibly say one positive thing about the nats

    • nattygoats - Aug 2, 2015 at 10:00 PM

      Nothing nice to say. Max isn’t pitching.

  121. nattygoats - Aug 2, 2015 at 9:59 PM

    This loss is on Jordan. He has been nothing special this year. He is already in Milwaukee as is Desi somewhere else. For the love of god let Espinosa play

  122. Ghost of Steve M. - Aug 2, 2015 at 9:59 PM

    Lobaton is napping behind the plate. Holds that fastball in place.

  123. Joe Seamhead - Aug 2, 2015 at 10:00 PM

    Have fun with these clowns, Ghost, MrsB, dcwx.

    • nattygoats - Aug 2, 2015 at 10:02 PM

      Oh yeah we are all clowns because we speak the truth. Wake up dude. This team sucks and you know it

      • chrisrw109nats - Aug 2, 2015 at 10:05 PM

        You’re a clown because you don’t understand baseball.

        You’re a clown because the second the team struggles you’re here to yell at everyone for being an idiot for liking the team.

        You’re a clown because your truth is ALWAYS: The Nats suck, they never win, all the players suck and Matt Williams is the worst manager in the world.

        That’s why you’re a clown. And that’s why as fanboards go this place is the unfriendliest for fans of the team.

      • Ghost of Steve M. - Aug 2, 2015 at 10:07 PM

        Yeah, that’s right. Your Os suck and we all know that. Losing to a deplete Tigers team.

    • Mrsb loves the Nats - Aug 2, 2015 at 10:02 PM

      It’s hard… cant have intelligent conversation at all..

      • dcwx61 - Aug 2, 2015 at 10:07 PM

        if possible, better to ignore chris.

      • Mrsb loves the Nats - Aug 2, 2015 at 10:09 PM

        I actually don’t have an issue with Chris… he has made some good points, imo. The issue is, the board is so toned with negativity and non-awnse those of us who are usually around and actually wanting to have baseball discussions cant.

      • chrisrw109nats - Aug 2, 2015 at 10:19 PM

        dcwx61, I’m not sure if you’re telling people to ignore me, or telling me to ignore the LoDers. If you’re telling people to ignore me, than I don’t really have a response for you, since you seem to think I’m the problem.

        I used to for the occasional day game come here to read and lurk while working at the office. I’d do similarly for night games, and I’d comment a little bit. I mostly started commenting last season around the playoffs after lurking for awhile, and had to switch accounts because of WordPress platform weirdness.

        If you’re telling me to ignore the LoDers, here’s the problem: It Doesn’t Work.

        At this point, if we just let Nattygoats and their ilk go un-replied to… then we can’t have conversations here at ALL. Because they reply to everything said, with LoD BS. So ‘ignore them and they’ll go away doesn’t work’, because they’ll end EVERY conversation thread with their crap, by hijacking it, and then people will stop replying to the initial comment.

        The alternative is that people just give up, give up on reading the comment threads and replying, give up on talking baseball, and give up on this place as a site to come to and discuss our team.

        Which is better, people telling them to take a long walk on a short pier? Or them hijacking every single conversation on this site?

        (And part of this is on Mark & Crew for not having a better run WordPress installation that allows moderation by IP address, and downvoting of comments in a manner that doesn’t screw up threads).

      • dcwx61 - Aug 2, 2015 at 10:29 PM

        I’m sorry Chris, I was recommending that you think about ignoring a couple of posters. Their opinion really doesn’t matter.

      • dcwx61 - Aug 2, 2015 at 10:31 PM

        and i have no issues with Chris., Mrs B. He is a great poster and quite funny.

        Chris, I understand what you are saying but I think some posters crave the attention for some reason and try to insight an otherwise very entertaining and informative blog.

      • dcwx61 - Aug 2, 2015 at 10:37 PM

        and those are great suggestions, Chris….we need the up/down vote feature that most boards have. Moderation by ip address makes too much sense too! Comcast for some reason does not have the resources or the IT savvy to implement these simple mods. It doesn’t look good on their company’s competence.

    • dcwx61 - Aug 2, 2015 at 10:03 PM

      thanks joe, i expect these kinds of comments but with all the money ESPN pays out for there broadcasts, they need to get their announcers better prepped

      • Ghost of Steve M. - Aug 2, 2015 at 10:09 PM

        They are one-sided. Slobbering all over Syndergaard. Give me a fair strike zone and tell me what this game would be like.

  124. Mrsb loves the Nats - Aug 2, 2015 at 10:07 PM

    I expect Lobo to be out…

  125. manassasnatsfan - Aug 2, 2015 at 10:08 PM

    Looked out by 2 frames

  126. Mrsb loves the Nats - Aug 2, 2015 at 10:10 PM

    MAT is hurting my feelings at the plate…. young man needs a break…

  127. ballgrindM - Aug 2, 2015 at 10:10 PM

    Okay everyone relax…. yes this series sucked, it’s indefensible to come in and get swept in the biggest series of the year but please, this team does not “suck”. I’m not sold on the Mets, talent wins out over 162 games and now that we are finally healthy we are going to take off and win division by 5+ games

    • Mrsb loves the Nats - Aug 2, 2015 at 10:15 PM

      I think Collins has pushed his young pitchers…. it will be interesting to see what happens.

      Mets seem to still have some issues with hitting, today being the anomoly, so that’s another thing to look out. Either way, sweeps happen… we will be on the giving end and receiving end. 59 games left. Be fun to see how this ends..

    • dcwx61 - Aug 2, 2015 at 10:33 PM

      +69

  128. Ghost of Steve M. - Aug 2, 2015 at 10:12 PM

    Michael A. Taylor now has 9 K’s in this series. That doesn’t help. Not a good time to fall in a funk.

    • chrisrw109nats - Aug 2, 2015 at 10:20 PM

      Yes, but unfortunately for MAT tonight, he really does have to swing at everything.

  129. rlndtln - Aug 2, 2015 at 10:13 PM

    Ghost.Unless you are saying the umps calling balls and strikes every night are out to get us.both teams are getting the same calls.

    • Ghost of Steve M. - Aug 2, 2015 at 10:16 PM

      You’re wrong based on the official K zone and more importantly at key times. Werth on Friday night against Clippard and Plawecki tonight in the 3rd inning are 2 key plays in the series. It’s missed calls in impact. Making an 0-1 a 1-0 doesn’t have the same impact as a 3-2 missed call.

  130. JayB - Aug 2, 2015 at 10:14 PM

    so what…are you glass is full crowd falling back on we are better than the O’s now.

    MW has no manager skills with lineups, pull pens or leadership. Rizzo is a great GM but he is incapable of being honest with us or himself. His guys have no heart and they quit. His guys or overrated by Rizzo and he would rather hold on to someone he as a tie to then will a division.

    And yes we are about to see Storen and Pap to get some work….how did that work out in 2012 for Davey against the Cards?

    • veejh - Aug 2, 2015 at 10:18 PM

      same crap. let em play the games and we’ll see how it all works out. there’s still 50something game left. all that matters is getting into the playoffs.

    • dcwx61 - Aug 2, 2015 at 10:46 PM

      What evidence do you have that the O’s are better than the Nats ? Their record does not indicate that ?

  131. Mrsb loves the Nats - Aug 2, 2015 at 10:16 PM

    Yo Deuces, we going to see Storen tonight? 😆😆😆

  132. Ghost of Steve M. - Aug 2, 2015 at 10:18 PM

    Love the bounceback from RIvero after Friday night he pitched very good and a batter got him. This kid is nails.

    • veejh - Aug 2, 2015 at 10:19 PM

      I think he replaces Thornton for the 7th inning lefty role

      • Ghost of Steve M. - Aug 2, 2015 at 10:21 PM

        Thornton has lost velo. Still good but not dominant.

    • Mrsb loves the Nats - Aug 2, 2015 at 10:21 PM

      I’m surprised he is out there. I really am. Makes you wish he was available yesterday.

      Theoretically, Nats have 1 lefty in the BP (not counting Thornton cuz he is a LOOGY)… lets see what Rizzo does.

      • Ghost of Steve M. - Aug 2, 2015 at 10:22 PM

        Yep, if he was available yesterday he pitches this same 7th inning.

  133. Ghost of Steve M. - Aug 2, 2015 at 10:23 PM

    Love that Collins is bringing Syndergaard back out. Let the youngster add up those innings as I expect him to suffer in September.

    • manassasnatsfan - Aug 2, 2015 at 10:24 PM

      +1

    • Mrsb loves the Nats - Aug 2, 2015 at 10:25 PM

      Hahaha… my comment at 10:15 said I think Collins has pushed his young pitchers.. lol… here we go again!

  134. manassasnatsfan - Aug 2, 2015 at 10:24 PM

    Funny how the topic before the game ever started was how bad the home plate umpire was going to be, and the catalyst to the whole bad inning was the home plate instead of ringing up the batter unexplicatebly called it a ball.

    I would review a game with the umpire after the game each every ball and strike. I bet you they deny being wrong still. We could show computer prints to match up with what the see, and they would say the computer is wrong.

    They in denial and MLB is worse they do nothing obvious about it.

    We want Desi benched. We want some of these umps benched.

    Make it clear JZim’s handling of the bad call was pathetic.

  135. AlexandriaNatFan - Aug 2, 2015 at 10:25 PM

    Collins rode deGrom hard last night and is riding Thor hard tonight. I would think that sort of approach has an impact long term late in the season. Selling out now to make the means justify the end, when it should be the other way around.

    • dcwx61 - Aug 2, 2015 at 10:44 PM

      +1

  136. Mrsb loves the Nats - Aug 2, 2015 at 10:27 PM

    Of course that is a K… hahaha…. of course.

  137. Ghost of Steve M. - Aug 2, 2015 at 10:27 PM

    There we go again. 3-1 to Espinosa called a strike. Below his knees. Strikes out on the next pitch.

  138. TheBigDummy - Aug 2, 2015 at 10:28 PM

    Unbelievable. Danny should be on first right now.

    • manassasnatsfan - Aug 2, 2015 at 10:29 PM

      I am starting to think the ump just could care less.

  139. manassasnatsfan - Aug 2, 2015 at 10:28 PM

    Espi walked on 3-1. Called a strike.

    Is Fletcher doing this on purpose. He can’t possibly be this bad

  140. Ghost of Steve M. - Aug 2, 2015 at 10:29 PM

    Instead of Esco up with 1 on and no outs he gets nobody on and 1 out. The trolls here will say the strike zone has been fair tonight. I’m just shaking my head.

    • manassasnatsfan - Aug 2, 2015 at 10:31 PM

      As I said would live to sit with Andy Fletcher and watch this.

      He would defend every bad call.

      • Ghost of Steve M. - Aug 2, 2015 at 10:32 PM

        How can you defend it. There isn’t consistency.

    • Mrsb loves the Nats - Aug 2, 2015 at 10:32 PM

      No.. the Mets are just the better team… its plain and simple as that. Everyone sucks… everyone sucks… everyone sucks…

      • Ghost of Steve M. - Aug 2, 2015 at 10:33 PM

        LOL. That’s right. There’s trolls here that would agree with you.

      • Mrsb loves the Nats - Aug 2, 2015 at 10:35 PM

        Mets had this thing wrapped up in June… all this is for naught. Idk why we even come to watch…

        I know Mark and co will like the increase in traffic but I hope they realize at what expense…

      • Ghost of Steve M. - Aug 2, 2015 at 10:38 PM

        Agreed. There’s almost zero moderation and zero participation from the authors on the site. One thing I will say about all the authors on the MASN sites, they will interact. No wonder a few ex-NatsInsiders have gone there.

    • dcwx61 - Aug 2, 2015 at 10:41 PM

      sadly….the teams have no control on what an umpire will do…they only have control over what they can do….which is don’t give up regardless of how unfair baseball and life is. The Nats do not give up..they feel like they are always in it from my perception of the team.

  141. Ghost of Steve M. - Aug 2, 2015 at 10:30 PM

    Should be 3rd and 2nd right now with 1 out.

    • AlexandriaNatFan - Aug 2, 2015 at 10:32 PM

      Maybe Espi scores on that double and Harp is now the tying run.

      • Ghost of Steve M. - Aug 2, 2015 at 10:34 PM

        It was a ground rule double but if it didn’t hop over the wall I would agree.

      • manassasnatsfan - Aug 2, 2015 at 10:46 PM

        The ball bounced out of play he couldn’t score.

        Umps do what they want. Give us the run.

  142. AlexandriaNatFan - Aug 2, 2015 at 10:30 PM

    Rendon just smoked a double and they’re still blabbing about Thor. Are they watching the game?

    • Ghost of Steve M. - Aug 2, 2015 at 10:36 PM

      I don’t think they mentioned it. It would change their narrative on Syndergaard. Pitched well but who the hockey puck knows what happens if there was a fair K zone.

      • AlexandriaNatFan - Aug 2, 2015 at 10:39 PM

        Nor did they mention Rivero just k’ing Duda. Impressive.

  143. Mrsb loves the Nats - Aug 2, 2015 at 10:31 PM

    Good to see Anthony hitting…. hopefully he is getting on track. Going to need him, and Ryan and Jayson to get on track for August/September…

    • dcwx61 - Aug 2, 2015 at 10:43 PM

      +1

    • natslive - Aug 2, 2015 at 10:45 PM

      Yeah be nice to have TTB back on track…..better to get Denard back too – soon I hope

  144. manassasnatsfan - Aug 2, 2015 at 10:33 PM

    Another wasted at bat.

    Fast ball over the plate smash. Don’t whiff.

  145. Joe Seamhead - Aug 2, 2015 at 10:36 PM

    Remember back in April when the Nats were 7-13 and losing badly to the Braves before coming back and winning the game? And then went on a winning streak? They are still in much better shape now than they were then.

    • nattygoats - Aug 2, 2015 at 10:39 PM

      Hahahahahahahaha. Also were in much better shape 10 days ago with the bench playing. Hahahahaha

      • manassasnatsfan - Aug 2, 2015 at 11:29 PM

        Why are you laughing? You claim to be a fan, you wouldn’t laugh if you really were.

    • Mrsb loves the Nats - Aug 2, 2015 at 10:41 PM

      I’m so ready for Span to come back… and SS..

  146. nattygoats - Aug 2, 2015 at 10:37 PM

    That a way Bryce. Give them Met fans all cranked up. Pathetic. We’re is the heart

    • Joe Seamhead - Aug 2, 2015 at 10:47 PM

      Is English your first language? You can’t compose a legible sentence.

      • nattygoats - Aug 2, 2015 at 10:52 PM

        That’s right take your frustrations out on me. This team stinks and is dead. I know it you know it we all know it. Stop taking it out on me and the others. Just admit we told you so back in April. MW is a train wreck of a manager. It’s OVER Mets win Division by 5 games.

      • scmargenau - Aug 2, 2015 at 11:03 PM

        I agree on MW – but stil if u r a fan find a positive

  147. Ghost of Steve M. - Aug 2, 2015 at 10:38 PM

    Rivero made Duda look like a chump.

    • Mrsb loves the Nats - Aug 2, 2015 at 10:43 PM

      Board got quiet when the Nats were making the comeback and had 2 on….

      Now that it’s bottom of the 8th and looking to lose, all hell breaks loose again. We catch no break….

      • Ghost of Steve M. - Aug 2, 2015 at 10:46 PM

        If Mark doesn’t get hold of this we should move over to MASN. I’m sure Byron Kerr and Chris Johnson would welcome the traffic. Peric is the star over there although he has a different name.

      • scmargenau - Aug 2, 2015 at 11:01 PM

        Is it weird I miss peric?

  148. Ghost of Steve M. - Aug 2, 2015 at 10:41 PM

    ESPN going nuts over a 2 out double?

  149. dcwx61 - Aug 2, 2015 at 10:42 PM

    the good news is, paps and storen are still well rested…

  150. Mrsb loves the Nats - Aug 2, 2015 at 10:45 PM

    Hey Dueces… write it down… no Paps or Storen in this series…

  151. senators69 - Aug 2, 2015 at 10:45 PM

    Bumming me out, boys and girls.
    Mets seem to have three young stud starting pitchers.
    Nats can match if Stras comes back to the form just before recent injury.

  152. Mrsb loves the Nats - Aug 2, 2015 at 10:48 PM

    Surprised that wasn’t a K…. its been a K all night…

  153. scnatsfan - Aug 2, 2015 at 10:48 PM

    Well the team either uses this to inspire them to play harder or the team crumbles. Let’s see if MW can earn his manager of the league title.

  154. Ghost of Steve M. - Aug 2, 2015 at 10:48 PM

    Syndergaard didn’t walk a batter because the ump helped him out. Espinosa absolutely should have been a walk.

  155. veejh - Aug 2, 2015 at 10:49 PM

    lot’s of close games this series, but the Mets wanted it more, plain and simple. NIghty night.

  156. Ghost of Steve M. - Aug 2, 2015 at 10:50 PM

    No surprise, skincapwiznat joined here – Aug 1, 2015

    • Mrsb loves the Nats - Aug 2, 2015 at 10:52 PM

      Exactly when the season ended. Trash doesn’t even deserve mentions or replies…

      • Ghost of Steve M. - Aug 2, 2015 at 10:54 PM

        I’m going to join an Ohs site and call myself CharmCityOsRavens.

      • Mrsb loves the Nats - Aug 2, 2015 at 10:56 PM

        Hahahahah… he is going to go back and tell all his buddies… lls… hahahaah

    • natslive - Aug 2, 2015 at 10:56 PM

      Shouldn’t it be HarmCity?

    • Ghost of Steve M. - Aug 3, 2015 at 7:53 AM

      Look at that. skincapwiznat just changed to Mets Flamethrower. Isn’t he clever. Now confesses.

  157. manassasnatsfan - Aug 2, 2015 at 10:51 PM

    Werth why tonight not Friday?

  158. Mrsb loves the Nats - Aug 2, 2015 at 10:53 PM

    High K is there at the top of each inning… not at the bottom…

    • Mrsb loves the Nats - Aug 3, 2015 at 8:59 AM

      Now your non-sense makes even more sense… HAHAHAHAH… Going to another fan board to gloat … in August… You cant make this stuff up.

      Hopefully we wont be inundated with your stupidity again as when you go play in traffic, you will be successful!

  159. Mrsb loves the Nats - Aug 2, 2015 at 10:54 PM

    Nata/Meta play 6 more times. Will be a fun race…

    On to the Dbacks. Think imma go to 2/4….

  160. natslive - Aug 2, 2015 at 10:55 PM

    Ok well that series sucked but we are still tied for first so going to be an interesting last 2 months of the season

  161. manassasnatsfan - Aug 2, 2015 at 10:56 PM

    The two key segments.

    Andy Fletcher totally screwing up the k.

    JZim as bad Fletcher was in a 5 pitch sequence threw nothing but neat balls for 3 homers in 5 runs.

    Again every time an ump makes mistakes we don’t buckle down , instead to often we make worse.

    Their pitchers never threw gas on the fire this series, we did it each night.

  162. senators69 - Aug 2, 2015 at 10:57 PM

    I think I’m gonna hate the Mets more than even Los Bravos
    Actually, I guess I’ve hated the Mets since the 1986 WS! (I have relatives in Boston!)

  163. coolhandbane - Aug 2, 2015 at 11:02 PM

    We failed as a team this series (this includes decisions made by Matt Williams). WE had our chances and couldnt win. Though the balls and strikes calls were HORRIBLE this series, that is not excuse for not winning or playing better. Something needs to be done about the balls and strikes calls around the league.

  164. AlexandriaNatFan - Aug 2, 2015 at 11:05 PM

    Home plate ump in Jays/Royals game totally lost control of that game today. #fail

    • Mrsb loves the Nats - Aug 2, 2015 at 11:10 PM

      Been like that around the league…

      • AlexandriaNatFan - Aug 2, 2015 at 11:20 PM

        Total leadership fail. Ump’s main job is to maintain control of the game, its flow and safety.

    • manassasnatsfan - Aug 2, 2015 at 11:10 PM

      Reported that earlier Wolfe was the ump. He was pathetic

  165. npb99 - Aug 2, 2015 at 11:06 PM

    Well we aren’t going to win a lot of games when the 4-5-6-7 hitters in our lineup are all hitting below .220. Here’s hoping RZ and Werth get going soon…

  166. senators69 - Aug 2, 2015 at 11:06 PM

    If the season ended today, Nats need:
    1 SP (assuming JRoss takes a slot)
    1 additional quality relief pitcher
    1 Catcher who can hit
    1 SS who can hit
    1 CF who can hit
    1 LF who can hit (IF Werth does not return to form)

    I assume Rendon and RZim return to form

    • manassasnatsfan - Aug 2, 2015 at 11:18 PM

      I would offer all 4 free agents so we can get 4 sandwich picks to juice up our young people.

  167. manassasnatsfan - Aug 2, 2015 at 11:09 PM

    Waiting for tweets from MW Presser all I can find is Terry Collins crap. Where are the beat guys?

    • Mrsb loves the Nats - Aug 2, 2015 at 11:18 PM

      Supposedly chase was there… im still looking for the evidence..

      • manassasnatsfan - Aug 2, 2015 at 11:31 PM

        All kind of Mets report not one Nats. One pep talk from FP

      • manassasnatsfan - Aug 2, 2015 at 11:35 PM

        It was false rumor I believe.

  168. manassasnatsfan - Aug 2, 2015 at 11:16 PM

    Where are the Nats tweets. Nothing but Nets tweet. Reminds me of ESPN

    • Mrsb loves the Nats - Aug 2, 2015 at 11:29 PM

      Chelsea Jane had a few…

      • manassasnatsfan - Aug 2, 2015 at 11:34 PM

        Thanks I added her. Waiting for quotes from JZim as he was the main problem.

        Lost composure completely.

      • manassasnatsfan - Aug 2, 2015 at 11:53 PM

        She is busy talking about Mr. Met. Want Nat quotes.

        I knew Bill Larsen would report until tomorrow.

        Chase has gone persona non grada.

        Chelsea is all about Mr. Met.

        Nats tweet will not have any quotes.

        Twitter is not all it is said to be except getting great coverage of the Mets.

  169. natsnatsnatswoo - Aug 2, 2015 at 11:43 PM

    Boswell is on top of the situation.

    Tweet before Friday’s game:

    Mets: RIP. That's in 1K tie for Worst "L" Ever. -3 games. Fun team. Ain't gonna happen. Don't trade away good future. There's no 'present.'— Thomas Boswell (@ThomasBoswellWP) July 30, 2015

    Tweet after tonight’s game:

    My col: One of my favorite little-known PGA Tour winners in a long time. Go-low Troy Merritt. Miss 13 cuts? So what. http://t.co/u9bcuUqeJc— Thomas Boswell (@ThomasBoswellWP) August 3, 2015

    I hope he hasn’t made any October reservations yet. He might find himself surprised!

    • manassasnatsfan - Aug 2, 2015 at 11:56 PM

      Rick Schu must be the Nats tweet coach as we have a hard time getting any.

      Mets are being coached by Ty Cobb

  170. raleighnat - Aug 3, 2015 at 12:31 AM

    Unfortunate facts as I see them (aside from injuries)

    Zimmerman, Fister, Werth, Desmond, Zimmerman, and Stras have all had poor / subpar years even when healthy. these are important guys. If this group doesn’t perform up to their track records going forward – or at least approximate them it is going to be tough to make the playoffs much less do anything if they get there. On the plus side, Harper and Scherzer have picked up a lot of the slack but they have come back to earth some. And we need a healthy Span. But this core group is going to have to step it up!

  171. NatsLady - Aug 3, 2015 at 1:40 AM

    I can’t imagine declaring a season “over” when the Nats are tied for first place at the start of play on August 3. I have a LOT of fight left in me.

  172. NatsLady - Aug 3, 2015 at 1:44 AM

    Look, the Mets are likely gonna lose tomorrow because they have Bartolo Colon, who has mostly lost it, going against Koehler, who can be nails..

    OTOH, we will have to work to win, because this kid Godley is pretty good. Fister will have to be on his game, and our boys will have to start HITTING.

  173. rlndtln - Aug 3, 2015 at 7:49 AM

    Andrew.Do not know where you have been I have said that 10 times.

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