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Around the NL East: Are Mets moves enough to catch Nats?

Jul 28, 2015, 12:00 PM EST

Jun 20, 2015; Oakland, CA, USA; Oakland Athletics pitcher Tyler Clippard (36) prepares to throw the ball to first to hold a runner on base against the Los Angeles Angels in the eighth inning at O.co Coliseum. The Athletics defeated the Angels 4-1. Mandatory Credit: Cary Edmondson-USA TODAY Sports

ATLANTA BRAVES  

The Braves continued their plan to acquire young pitching, trading veterans Juan Uribe and Kelly Johnson to the Mets in exchange for minor league arms John Gant and Rob Whalen. Both arms are considered mid-level prospects at best — neither of them are listed in Baseball America’s ‘Midseason Top 50 prospects‘ list — but it’s certainly better to take a chance on them rather than keep veterans around that don’t have a longterm future with the club.

Will they trade anyone else? There are reports out there that the Braves have apparently dangled Cameron Maybin and Andrelton Simmons, but have been asking for a king’s ransom in return. The only other viable option right now appears to be closer Jim Johnson, who’s been a little more steady in 2015 than he had been in recent years.

MIAMI MARLINS  

The Marlins are hoping that reliever Steve Cishek isn’t the only player they wind up dealing before Friday’s deadline. They are currently fielding offers for Dan Haren, and apparently, the hang up is that the club doesn’t want to send money to other teams to help pay for his salary. That would seem typical of the Marlins, who have a history of being fiscally conservative. But Haren has a $10 million base salary for this year and is reportedly close to receiving a $3 million bonus, so it’s not like Miami would have to hand over chump change to other teams in a deal.

NEW YORK METS  

The Mets made a modest upgrade to their lineup in dealing for the aforementioned Uribe and Johnson. But they weren’t done there, later netting Athletics reliever (and former Nationals setup man) Tyler Clippard to shore up the back end of their bullpen, much to the chagrin of the D.C. fanbase. But all the recent activity, the question still remains: Are these moves enough to help New York catch Washington in the NL East standings?

Who knows the answer to that one. It’s not like Mets acquired any of the big fish that were available on the trade market. Regardless, it’s clear they don’t want to stand pat because they truly believe they have a shot to take the division crown if things break their way. In some respects, they’re right; the Nats have been banged up most of the season, had inconsistent starting pitching and still have question marks in their bullpen. So why not strike while you can? The Mets have made it this far into the season and managed to stay in the race, so there’s no reason to think they’ll fade anytime soon. Will Washington counter with a few moves of its own?

PHILADELPHIA PHILLIES 

If this is it for Cole Hamels in Philadelphia, what a heck of a way to go out. Pitching in what was likely his final start as a member of the organization, the lefty ace tossed a no-hitter in Wrigley Field against the Cubs over the weekend. Hamels showed why teams are so interested in trading for him in the first place: His velocity was on point (he was hitting 94 mph at times with the fastball), showed excellent command and got hitters to chase pitches out of the zone for strikeouts. It was a great moment for a player and a team that has been through rough times in the last few years.

So, who will Hamels be pitching for next? That’s the million dollar question, and teams are apparently lining up for his services as the trade deadline approaches. The reported leading contenders are the Dodgers and Angels at the moment, but the buzz on Monday night was that the Astros — even after acquiring Scott Kazmir —  are making a push to get him. Either way, it looks like the Phillies have a good chance of getting a quality haul of prospects once this is is all said and done.

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  1. Ghost of Steve M. - Jul 28, 2015 at 1:58 PM

    “From James Wagner: When Bryce Harper was named an all-star, he thanked Ian Desmond. How Harper says Desmond has helped him this season: http://t.co/KBeaGYxOz6

    I’m not saying Wagner used my previous writings on Desi and his team leadership but it certainly reinforces my points in Desi being crucial to the clubhouse and team chemistry as a “heart and soul” leader. His intangibles are off the charts.

    • npb99 - Jul 28, 2015 at 2:14 PM

      True on Desi’s intangibles. Along with Werth he’s clearly been the leader of this club in recent years.
      I just wish his tangibles had been better this year….

      • Ghost of Steve M. - Jul 28, 2015 at 2:15 PM

        Yes, and if Desi can literally keep his head in, he should finish the season en fuego!

    • adcwonk - Jul 28, 2015 at 2:52 PM

      Didn’t someone, just earlier this week, mention somebody else who cited Desi as a great help — perhaps it was MAT?

      • Ghost of Steve M. - Jul 28, 2015 at 2:53 PM

        CRob did for sure. If MAT did I missed it.

      • adcwonk - Jul 28, 2015 at 3:03 PM

        Right. It was CRob.

        (And, according to Brutxon, MAT did it, too, although I missed that at the time)

      • Hiram Hover - Jul 28, 2015 at 2:57 PM

        Yesterday, ArVAFan generously shared some comments CRob made during the Pburg trip.

      • Bruxtun - Jul 28, 2015 at 3:00 PM

        MAT mentioned Desi after Taylor went 4-5 against the Pirates in the win

  2. TimDz - Jul 28, 2015 at 2:04 PM

    “They are currently fielding offers for Dan Haren, and apparently, the hang up is that the club doesn’t want to send money to other teams to help pay for his salary. That would seem typical of the Marlins, who have a history of being fiscally conservative.”

    Wait….didn’t LA send $10 Million to Miami to cover the salary and, if Haren decided to retire, that Miami could KEEP the money?
    That isn’t fiscally conservative…that’s plain out CHEAP….

  3. NatsLady - Jul 28, 2015 at 2:04 PM

    Apparently Tulo told the Rockies he didn’t want to be traded to the Mets.

    • jd - Jul 28, 2015 at 2:08 PM

      I think the Rockies did very well in that trade shaving millions from their future commitments ans also getting 2 very good prospects. The trick will be to get rid of Reyes and his $21 mil annual salary. I think they’ll need to eat much of that salary especially if they want prospects in return.

      • Ghost of Steve M. - Jul 28, 2015 at 2:13 PM

        Yes, they will need to eat cash and I figured he’d be flipped soon or into August.

        Yankees?

      • jd - Jul 28, 2015 at 2:18 PM

        I guess Ghost nut lately Gregorius has been hitting a bit and he plays good defense which Reyes doesn’t. Why would you want to upset the apple cart when you are ahead by 7 games?

        I have to tell you that looking around I don’t really see many landing spots for Reyes especially if you have to either take on money or give away prospects.

        Angels?

      • nats128 - Jul 28, 2015 at 2:51 PM

        Yankees haven’t done any thing yet. They need a starter before a shortstop.

  4. Ghost of Steve M. - Jul 28, 2015 at 2:14 PM

    I’m hearing Barrett and Treinen could be dealt in some of these trade scenarios. I’m sure nobody would weep over that.

    • jd - Jul 28, 2015 at 2:16 PM

      No.

    • masterfishkeeper - Jul 28, 2015 at 2:18 PM

      Weep? No, but I think they are useful bullpen arms. Would rather not lose them, but I’d understand it in the right deal.

      • jd - Jul 28, 2015 at 2:22 PM

        masterfishkeeper,

        I felt the same way until recently and of course either one of them could turn into Hanrahan on another team but on a team in a pennant race and one which hopes to be in one for years to come, how can you keep throwing these guys out there in high lev situations when they are so inconsistent? they are both 27 I think and I don’t really see ready made roles for them with us so maybe it’s time to say good bye.

      • Ghost of Steve M. - Jul 28, 2015 at 2:27 PM

        The Reds have been all over the Nats inventory and don’t like the package that Rizzo is proposing. He’s offering up a few MLB arms.

        Rizzo is not giving up. Tic toc to the finishline. 73 1/2 hours to go and so few deals have been done.

      • adcwonk - Jul 28, 2015 at 2:54 PM

        Tic toc to the finishline.

        If I recall correctly — Strasburg and Harper were both signed within 90 seconds of their midnight deadlines (one of them about 30 seconds!)

    • Hiram Hover - Jul 28, 2015 at 2:24 PM

      Between them, who’d you rather keep?

      Barrett seems more solid to me–perhaps Phils or other teams would be intrigued by Treinen’s “stuff” and prefer his potential.

      • Ghost of Steve M. - Jul 28, 2015 at 2:29 PM

        If someone fixes Barrett and Treinen, either could be closers. You can see both have filthy stuff but lack mechanical consistency and Barrett loses concentration.

      • Hiram Hover - Jul 28, 2015 at 2:36 PM

        Hope so–some folks like fix-er-uppers. Me, not so much.

      • Ghost of Steve M. - Jul 28, 2015 at 2:37 PM

        I guess a MLB arm could also be AJ Cole or Taylor Hill or Taylor Jordan.

        Deals are changing. All those names have long team control.

        Rizzo does not want to trade Difo. This is moving quickly but still might move to Friday.

        If the Reds back off some, it will be Chapman. That’s Rizzo’s 1st choice then Kimbrel.

      • jd - Jul 28, 2015 at 2:39 PM

        I wouldn’t move Difo. I still think Difo and Turner are the middle infield of the future. I don’t think Bostick is a sure thing.

      • Ghost of Steve M. - Jul 28, 2015 at 2:49 PM

        I can’t confirm much on Papelbon except to say that the Phillies and Nats agree on the players and just needs lPapelbon and his agent to agree to how Rizzo wants to set things up.

        Just my speculation if Rizzo gives him the bonus and option guarantee then it takes the closer milestones out of the picture.

        Kimbrel and Chapman will only work if trade package isn’t as aggressive.

        Stay tuned.

      • jd - Jul 28, 2015 at 3:01 PM

        I like a couple of things about Paplebon:

        1) He would definitely upgrade the pen pushing Jansen to the 7th and allowing lefty/righty match ups earlier. What this means is that if the starters can give you 6 – 7 good innings you have a much better chance with Paplebon in the mix.

        2) the financial commitment isn’t huge for this year. The option for next year is based on finishing 55 games this year or 100 games between 2014 and 2015. I guess Paplebon wants the option picked up. At $13 mil for 2016 it’s a bit rich but not horrible,

        3) If the deal doesn’t include any of: Giolito,Turner,Ross,Difo or Severino I,m ok with it.

        You have to be a bit careful when dealing with a team you face 18 times a year.

        I agree with you that Rizzo may very well be putting on the squeeze on Preller and Jockety.

        Jim Bowden suggests Chapman for Ross, I think he’s rindtin in disguise and I am glad he’s not our GM any more.

      • adcwonk - Jul 28, 2015 at 3:09 PM

        Jim Bowden suggests Chapman for Ross, I think he’s rindtin in disguise

        Or maybe rlndtln is Jim Bowden in disguise! 😉

      • virginiascopist - Jul 28, 2015 at 3:20 PM

        I’m glad to hear Rizzo doesn’t want to move Difo. I have a feeling San Diego for sure wants him in a package for Kimbrel (actually, we know they really want Turner, but if they ask for him one more time, Rizzo will stop answering the phone).

        As for Barrett or Treinen, given the choice, I would offer Treinen (still has the potential to become a starting pitcher, so should be a little more attractive than Barrett).

        Boy, if Rizzo can get Chapman or Kimbrel for a package headlined by Taylor Jordan or Taylor Hill, I will be truly astounded.

      • zmunchkin - Jul 28, 2015 at 3:20 PM

        Bowden now reporting that if the deal is done that Papelbon will be the closer.

      • Ghost of Steve M. - Jul 28, 2015 at 3:28 PM

        Bowden would have traded Joe Ross for Chapman. I like that Jocketty is asking high and Rizzo keeps saying no.

      • zmunchkin - Jul 28, 2015 at 3:30 PM

        Me too Ghost. The fact that Bowden is reporting this makes me think it’s wrong.

      • bowdenball - Jul 28, 2015 at 4:01 PM

        Bowden is not reporting the trade is done, at least not on twitter. A fake Heyman account reported it was done. Everyone else has reported they’re still negotiating the no-trade clause and whether he closes and the vesting option and all that other stuff.

  5. nats128 - Jul 28, 2015 at 2:31 PM

    Zobrist to the Royals according to Ken Rosenthal

    • NatsLady - Jul 28, 2015 at 2:32 PM

      Royals are not fooling around.

      • jd - Jul 28, 2015 at 2:34 PM

        Oh Yeah, they are all in. Still need one more starting pitcher IMO.

      • nats128 - Jul 28, 2015 at 2:38 PM

        Nope. They are very concerned that Alex Gordon won’t be ready until mid September and Zobrist can fill in at a number of positions for when Gordon comes back.

      • Hiram Hover - Jul 28, 2015 at 3:00 PM

        Wow. Does not look like they bought cheap–2 pitchers, including Sean Manaea, a 2013 1st rounder (sandwich pick) who seems to be in everyone’s top 50-100 prospects.

      • jd - Jul 28, 2015 at 3:04 PM

        HH,

        Zobrist was on everyone’s wish list and Beane took full advantage. As NL said: the Royals aren’t fulling around.

      • Hiram Hover - Jul 28, 2015 at 3:07 PM

        Sure. Still a lot to pay for a two month rental of a good but not superstar player.

        As are sending cash to KC, so presumably that bought them more.

    • jd - Jul 28, 2015 at 3:11 PM

      HH,

      It’s an overpay for sure.

  6. jd - Jul 28, 2015 at 2:33 PM

    Someone last week was wondering why Stevenson hasn’t been playing for Auburn. As I expected he was promoted to Hagerstown after dominating at the rookie level. He really should dominate at this level as weoll if he’s a real prospect and the 1st real challenge should come at A+. Big move up between these 2 levels.

    • Ghost of Steve M. - Jul 28, 2015 at 2:43 PM

      Good stuff. Thanks for the update.

    • DaveB - Jul 28, 2015 at 3:37 PM

      He also took a few days off with a sprained ankle (there was an update from someone “in the know” on Nats prospects).

    • Hiram Hover - Jul 28, 2015 at 3:45 PM

      Appreciate the updates!

  7. micksback1 - Jul 28, 2015 at 3:27 PM

    I was kinda hoping we would get Clip back. I think Ross for Chapman would be a mistake and hope its not true

  8. micksback1 - Jul 28, 2015 at 3:29 PM

    So what do we give up for Pap?

    • masterfishkeeper - Jul 28, 2015 at 3:43 PM

      Wasn’t Lombo DFA’d? Could we sign him and trade him with a minor league prospect?

      • scnatsfan - Jul 28, 2015 at 3:48 PM

        Only if we include McLouth

    • nats128 - Jul 28, 2015 at 3:55 PM

      Hoping its a salary dump and they give them Aaron Barrett.

  9. adcwonk - Jul 28, 2015 at 3:58 PM

    Hey all — isn’t this fun?!? 😉

    Much better than being on your way to losing 100 and not caring about this stuff . . .

    (Which is, in turn, much better than not having any home team at all . . . )

    • Allnats - Jul 28, 2015 at 4:03 PM

      +1000

    • bowdenball - Jul 28, 2015 at 4:04 PM

      +1. Well said.

  10. Ghost of Steve M. - Jul 28, 2015 at 3:59 PM

    Ryan Zimmerman is in fact at the stadium taking MdD spot

    • nats128 - Jul 28, 2015 at 4:01 PM

      What about Jayson Werth and does he take Burriss spot?

  11. Ghost of Steve M. - Jul 28, 2015 at 4:07 PM

    MW has delayed posting his lineup. Many moving parts.

    • Hiram Hover - Jul 28, 2015 at 4:11 PM

      Is Mark Z in Miami? Don’t know if he said anywhere.

      • Ghost of Steve M. - Jul 28, 2015 at 4:21 PM

        He hasn’t been attending a lot of games recently. That CSN budget seems to ‘ve spent on the basketball and hockey teams. It’s disappointing. There was that one weekend Mark and Chase were away.

    • ArVAFan - Jul 28, 2015 at 4:12 PM

      I nominate that for the understatement of the day.

      • nats128 - Jul 28, 2015 at 4:38 PM

        +1 Burriss either to the DL or DFA’d

  12. Ghost of Steve M. - Jul 28, 2015 at 4:10 PM

    Papelbon is in Toronto for tonight’s game and the deal to the Nats could completed before 7pm. Like I wrote earlier Rizzo and Amaro have already agreed on the players and just needs Papelbon’s ok with Rizzo.

    Papelbon is the key to finalizing.

    • jd - Jul 28, 2015 at 4:15 PM

      Paplebon ain’t making it to Miami in time for the start of tonight’s game. The finish? maybe.

      • Ghost of Steve M. - Jul 28, 2015 at 4:22 PM

        No way. He’d make it tomorrow.

      • Ghost of Steve M. - Jul 28, 2015 at 4:28 PM

        Are you ready for this, Papelbon is not in the stadium in Toronto with the rest of the Phoolies.

      • nats128 - Jul 28, 2015 at 4:33 PM

        Papelbon being missing. Funny. Seems like he wanted to be gone right after the All Star game.

    • Bruxtun - Jul 28, 2015 at 4:16 PM

      How ordinary is it to give a closer a partial no trade clause? Guess that speaks to Papelbon’s shrewdness. Or maybe not, I don’t know.

    • Joe Seamhead - Jul 28, 2015 at 4:32 PM

      So, any guess as to what the Nats are giving up?

      • jd - Jul 28, 2015 at 4:35 PM

        It all depends on how much money the Phills are kicking in? if they don’t kick in any money it shouldn’t be much.

      • Ghost of Steve M. - Jul 28, 2015 at 4:37 PM

        Nothing we will be upset over today. They offered a middling prospect and some MLB quality which I took to mean Treinen, Barrett types. Not sure if Cole could be the guy.

  13. rlndtln - Jul 28, 2015 at 4:17 PM

    Why would we keep Uggla.

  14. zmunchkin - Jul 28, 2015 at 4:21 PM

    Svrluga reporting the deal is nearly done.

    • Hiram Hover - Jul 28, 2015 at 4:28 PM

      Pap is not exactly the present I was hoping to find under the Xmas trade deadline tree.

      Hope at least he’s not costing too much.

      • zmunchkin - Jul 28, 2015 at 4:29 PM

        + a number too big to key in.

      • scnatsfan - Jul 28, 2015 at 4:30 PM

        I don’t want him but until I see the cost I’ll reserve judgement.

        Storen must be beside himself.

  15. jd - Jul 28, 2015 at 4:30 PM

    This won’t go down well with Storen. Would have been easier if it was Chapman or even Kimbrel. But if PAP comes in and is installed as the closer Drew will have a problem with it and I don’t blame him.

    • masterfishkeeper - Jul 28, 2015 at 4:35 PM

      Don’t assume that is the deal. Papelbon probably just wants his option to vest, which is tied to closing. The Nats could agree to waive that condition.

      • jd - Jul 28, 2015 at 4:37 PM

        I,m just reading the rumors but word is that he will get the closer’s role if the deal is completed.

      • virginiascopist - Jul 28, 2015 at 5:33 PM

        I hope it’s true that the Nats would waive the closing condition to have his option vest. Those speculating otherwise are just re-reading Papelbon’s “I only want to close” statement.

    • scnatsfan - Jul 28, 2015 at 4:36 PM

      well jd in theory I agree but 2 post season meltdowns will cause a GMs confidence to wane

      • nats128 - Jul 28, 2015 at 4:55 PM

        Also a 90 year old owner.

  16. bisonaudit - Jul 28, 2015 at 4:36 PM

    Why? They don’t need to spend $17 million plus whatever else they gave up for a relief pitcher.

    Patsy is standing next to Rizzo holding a couple of coconuts while they stare up a castle wall, when they should be standing on top of the battlement telling the world they’ve already got one.

    They are making bad decisions out of fear because Storen pitched poorly during the wrong week last year.

  17. Allnats - Jul 28, 2015 at 4:37 PM

    Rendon 4, Escobar 5, Werth 7, Harper 9, Zimmerman 3, Desmond 6, Ramos 2, Taylor 8, Zimmermann 1

    • Allnats - Jul 28, 2015 at 4:37 PM

      I love this!!

    • jd - Jul 28, 2015 at 4:39 PM

      This lineup brings a big smile to my face.

      • Tyler Babip - Jul 28, 2015 at 4:42 PM

        Yes!

      • Ghost of Steve M. - Jul 28, 2015 at 4:46 PM

        Just need good health and production and Denard Span.

      • natsfan1a - Jul 28, 2015 at 4:47 PM

        That’s what I’m talking about!

        “Rendon 4, Escobar 5, Werth 7, Harper 9, Zimmerman 3, Desmond 6, Ramos 2, Taylor 8, Zimmermann 1”

    • bowdenball - Jul 28, 2015 at 4:47 PM

      Boy, that’s a cure for what ails Natstown these days. If only they didn’t have to face Jose Fernandez tonight.

      • natsfan1a - Jul 28, 2015 at 4:48 PM

        boo

    • knoxvillenat - Jul 28, 2015 at 4:49 PM

      MLB television says this is the first game all season that Rendon, Werth and Zimmerman have been in the same lineup. Hope they get to play the remainder of the season together as well.

  18. Ghost of Steve M. - Jul 28, 2015 at 4:47 PM

    Dan Uggla still part of the team, Burriss is DFA and must clear waivers.

  19. natsfan1a - Jul 28, 2015 at 4:47 PM

    Ah, there’s now a game post.

  20. Joe Seamhead - Jul 28, 2015 at 4:49 PM

    Espinosa odd man out tonight.

  21. jd - Jul 28, 2015 at 4:52 PM

    So the bench mow is :Robinson, Moore, Uggla, Espinosa and Lobaton. One of Uggla or Moore is nearing the witching hour when Span returns unless of course there are other personnel moves between now and then.

  22. Joe Seamhead - Jul 28, 2015 at 5:04 PM

    Dan Uggla’s July has not been pretty:

    27 AB’s, 2 hits, 3 BB’s, 2 RBI’s, 11K’s, .074 BA, .167 OBP

    • rlndtln - Jul 28, 2015 at 6:03 PM

      Why would you not drop Uggla

      • Joe Seamhead - Jul 28, 2015 at 6:06 PM

        That’s easy. Because the Mutts would pick him up.

      • virginiascopist - Jul 28, 2015 at 6:12 PM

        I don’t think Rizzo will drop Uggla until he has no one left he can option. That time MAY be coming when Span returns — or it’s possible that MAT will just return to Syracuse for a couple of weeks until September 1. Or maybe DFA Tyler Moore.

      • zmunchkin - Jul 28, 2015 at 6:19 PM

        They are in Miami now. So if Span is ready, maybe the same bathroom door (?) that put Henry on the DL :-).

  23. rlndtln - Jul 28, 2015 at 6:18 PM

    Why would you do that.Just get rid of Uggla.he stinks.Mat to Syracuse. no way.he will be our best righty off the bench.and When Span comes will play 2 times a week for Span and Werth not to mention late inning replacement for Jason.

  24. zmunchkin - Jul 28, 2015 at 7:02 PM

    So another question is who gets dropped from the 40-man roster to make room for Papelbon?

  25. Joe Seamhead - Jul 28, 2015 at 7:50 PM

    Burris was dropped from the 40 man. Doesn’t that cover the 40?

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