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VIDEOS: On Fister, Aroldis Chapman and the trade deadline

Jul 24, 2015, 10:00 AM EST

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I went on SportsNet Central Thursday night for a pair of segments to talk about a variety of topics involving the Nationals. The first clip is about how close Anthony Rendon, Ryan Zimmerman and Jayson Werth are to returning. We also discussed the trade deadline and host Michael Jenkins even brought up my recent cameo in the movie ‘Sharknado 3.’ Believe it or not, you read that right.

The second video aired after the game and we talked about Doug Fister’s disappointing results so far this season and the rumors linking the Nationals to Reds closer Aroldis Chapman.

Check it out…

  1. nats128 - Jul 24, 2015 at 10:47 AM

    Ghost,

    I posted this on the other post but you didnt answer it.

    At the beginning of July you reported before any one else that the Nats were pursuing Aroldis Chapman. About 2 hours of you posting that here Jon Morosi of FOX tweeted the same out. I asked you if you were his source to which you didnt answer.

    You then said that the Reds would most likely wait until after the All Star game to trade since it was in Cincinatti and they werent going to make moves before that.

    Now we are exactly 1 week before the trade deadline and Ken Rosenthal is saying the Nats are “in” on Aroldis Chapman. You wrote last week the Nats would give up a prospect in that 5 to 10 range like a Voth, Fedde or Pivetta and in the right deal would do Difo.

    Do you think it is a 2 for 1 like Difo and Fedde?

    • adcwonk - Jul 24, 2015 at 11:12 AM

      (crickets…;-) )

      • nats128 - Jul 24, 2015 at 1:59 PM

        It took a while to get a answer. Its like sending up the Bat Signal. Figure hes always a round.

      • adcwonk - Jul 24, 2015 at 2:31 PM

        😉

    • Ghost of Steve M. - Jul 24, 2015 at 11:17 AM

      That’s a lot to give up for 1 year and 2 months for Chapman. I was happy when I got the inside scoop on Chapman and I was the first to post it and then I checked with other people in the know and Morosi confirmed it.

      Then I spoke with Byron Kerr who said there was nothing there. I gave up on it and then a couple days before the All Star game was told that the Reds demands were high and Rizzo said NO but the negotiations would continue after the All Star game.

      Difo + Fedde is steep. Let’s see what happens. Maybe a 2 for 2 to include Jay Bruce.

      • masterfishkeeper - Jul 24, 2015 at 11:24 AM

        Awfully steep. I’d rather give up a somewhat less promising young pitcher.

        Bruce would be nice, although wouldn’t seem to be all that necessary, with the impending returns of Werth and Span.

      • Ghost of Steve M. - Jul 24, 2015 at 11:55 AM

        Gives you options for next year for Bruce in case Werth can’t return to form and Span departing for Free Agency.

      • jd - Jul 24, 2015 at 11:46 AM

        I don’t think you get Chapman for much less than that. I am willing to trade Fedde because we don’t know what we have with him and he’s still several years of development away, it’s a risk but I think it’s worth it for a stud like Chapman. Difo is relatively close and I’d hate to give him away because we will be creating a hole in a couple of years.

        I think the problem is that there will be many teams in on Chapman and some of them have better deeper prospect lists than us. Still it’s nice to dream.

      • Ghost of Steve M. - Jul 24, 2015 at 12:00 PM

        The asking price 3 weeks ago was Turner and Lopez. Clearly no deal there. Then it was Difo and Lopez. That’s steep. I’d hope if it’s Difo and Fedde it’s more than Chapman.

        Difo will hit for a high average as he’s a contact hitter with speed and he can certainly play 2nd base.

        In know you have to give up quality for quality but if this goes down in a 2 for 1 it will sting but the Nats need Chapman.

      • Ghost of Steve M. - Jul 24, 2015 at 2:34 PM

        Word I’m getting is 2 top 10 prospects on Chapman. In Cueto they want a Top 5 and a Top 10.

        If they liked what they saw of Fedde a deal should be done shortly. Tick toc.

      • therealjohnc - Jul 24, 2015 at 11:57 AM

        Not to express an opinion particularly on the potential trade (yet), but one thing to remember is that Fedde is not, or at least should not be, “several years of development away.” Don’t confuse Fedde’s development track with Giolito’s. While both were first round picks that had TJ surgery right away, remember that Fedde was drafted out of college and is already 22 years old. Giolito is 15 months younger than Fedde despite having been drafted two years earlier (2012 vs. 2014). Because Fedde was farther along in his development as a pitcher when he got hurt, he will be on a shorter developmental timetable.

      • Ghost of Steve M. - Jul 24, 2015 at 12:14 PM

        Very true John.

      • jd - Jul 24, 2015 at 12:03 PM

        therealjohn,

        I got all of that but we know for sure that Giolito has major league talent, Fedde is in a rookie league this year. Let’s say for the sake of argument that he starts next year in Potomac (I think that’s likely optimistic) you still have to assume 2 full years at minimum.

        The concept of college players being more advanced developmentally is valid, top of the line college prospects can generally compete at AA level and I am not so sure Fedde has that type of talent.

        I could be wrong

      • Ghost of Steve M. - Jul 24, 2015 at 12:18 PM

        This is where the prospect ratings come in. Fedde hasn’t emerged yet as a professional but his former status is what carries the weight here as potential and that’s all these guys have is potential and a lot to prove. Scouts have to assess.

      • nats128 - Jul 24, 2015 at 1:57 PM

        Great stuff. Love the inside info!

    • Ghost of Steve M. - Jul 25, 2015 at 7:00 PM

      http://natsinsider.com/2015/06/12/game-61-nats-at-brewers/

      I first mentioned it June 12th

      • nats128 - Jul 25, 2015 at 7:07 PM

        I thought it was July. Had no idea its been 45 days since you brought it up.

  2. rlndtln - Jul 24, 2015 at 11:11 AM

    I have been saying get Chapman.

  3. micksback1 - Jul 24, 2015 at 11:17 AM

    I hope Ghost and you are correct.

    I am now concerned with starting pitching as I think Fister is clearly not the pitcher he was in 2014 and Tanner has some serious issues with becoming a gopher ball pitcher, I think minors are in store for Tanner.

    I have no concern with the offense as I believe at least 2 of the 4 returning stars will have a huge impact in the lineup as well as make other players’ bats more dangerous when they return.

    We must get an 8th inning setup man period.

    Maybe, Max, JZim, Gio and Ross are the answers assuming Stras comes back healthy. Young Ross could be our Jim Palmer (1966) this year?

    But, Mike Rizzo needs to get rolling on this before August 1. As cold as it sounds, maybe Desi has up his trade value now so that he could be used ina tarde?

    Also, Dan Uggla is a good guy but he has to go as well, he is an automatice out and a DP machine when he bats, he also looks lost at the plate

    • Hiram Hover - Jul 24, 2015 at 11:25 AM

      maybe Desi has up his trade value now so that he could be used in a trade?

      Desmond is not going anywhere. A non-contending team wouldn’t want him for 2 months, and there’s no contending team that a) needs him and b) would return anything of value for him.

      .

    • jd - Jul 24, 2015 at 11:48 AM

      Mick,

      I don’t believe Fister is done and we absolutely need him not to be. I caution you not to count on Joe Ross too much for 2015 with inexperience and a likely innings limit that will preclude him from being available in the playoffs.

      • NatsLady - Jul 24, 2015 at 1:58 PM

        I also don’t think Fister is done. He was erratic, yes. But he was quite sharp in a couple of those strikeouts. I feel he’s playing through something–might not be physical.

    • zmunchkin - Jul 24, 2015 at 11:54 AM

      I don’t think the Nats need another starter. Remember that once the playoffs start, we only need 3 (maybe 4 – but not really necessary) starters. Barring more injuries, we’ve got that covered: Max, Jordan, Gio. And if Stras comes backs, stays healthy, and is his old self, we are good to go.

      If the return of Rendon, Zim, Werth and Span add even a fraction of the offense they are capable of, Fister as our 5th starter is acceptable.

      • jd - Jul 24, 2015 at 11:58 AM

        zmuchkin,

        Bingo !!

      • Ghost of Steve M. - Jul 24, 2015 at 1:02 PM

        Agreed, only need 4 for the playoffs.

        Scherzer
        JZim
        Gio
        Strasburg

    • Ghost of Steve M. - Jul 24, 2015 at 1:04 PM

      Mick, starters are not the problem if they can figure out something for Fister .

      Only 4 starters needed for the postseason.

      Scherzer
      JZim
      Gio
      Strasburg

  4. ArVAFan - Jul 24, 2015 at 11:18 AM

    Completely off-topic, but we’re headed for Pittsburgh in an hour or so. Apparently the player we get to talk to tomorrow is Clint Robinson. Any good questions you’d like to ask? (NO, I will not ask him if he thinks more practice will help his fielding, or “if he should have caught that ball down the right field line”, even though I might want to).

    The obvious questions are about the minors-to-majors transition.

    • micksback1 - Jul 24, 2015 at 11:23 AM

      fantastic…he has become one of my favorites, questions for him:

      1) how long was in the minors?

      2) did he ever lose hope and what kept him going?

      3) what advice would he give to young players in the minors in terms of hanging in there?

    • Hiram Hover - Jul 24, 2015 at 11:25 AM

      “Present company excepted, who are your three favorite Clints?”

      • micksback1 - Jul 24, 2015 at 11:31 AM

        great question and let me clarify that I have 2 categories of favorite players, the first are the unsung players who nobody expected good things from and the second are my favorite stars!

        Unsung

        1) Clint

        2) Michael A

        3) Danny Espi

        Fav stars

        1) Bryce

        2) Max

        3) Yunel

        How about you?

        alos, i agree with you about desi, I was just throwing taht out there

      • natsnatsnatswoo - Jul 24, 2015 at 11:40 AM

        Of all the Clints who have ever been employed by the Nats organization, he’s the only one who’s not a d-bag. Ask him if he has a brother named Terrance who could replace the one we have now.

      • Hiram Hover - Jul 24, 2015 at 11:43 AM

        Among the stars, I’d say for me it’s Rendon, Werth and Max.

        I’m impressed with Danny E this year, esp given all the crap he had to slog thru the past 2 years. MAT and Clint definitely have their strengths, and as you say, Clint esp falls in the scrappy guy who hangs in there category.

        Actually, a more serious question for ArVAFan – you could ask him about his first MLB homer, and the silent treatment he got afterwards–did that surprise him, how long he think it would take them to crack, etc?

      • micksback1 - Jul 24, 2015 at 11:50 AM

        Hiram

        great choices and let me say, I am basing mine on guys that have played all year. Rendon would definitely be on my list but he has been injured

    • zmunchkin - Jul 24, 2015 at 11:41 AM

      Given that he has played 4 positions this year (LF, RF, 1B, P) is there another position he would like to play, even if only for an inning?

      Part 2: is there any position that he would play if he had to, but would rather not.

    • natsfan1a - Jul 24, 2015 at 11:51 AM

      Is he working on any additions to his pitching repertoire? 😀

    • Soul Possession, My Sofa - Jul 24, 2015 at 12:41 PM

      “Most outrageous joke the vets have played on him?”

    • adcwonk - Jul 24, 2015 at 12:59 PM

      What things have current Nats players told him that have helped him?

  5. mauimo22 - Jul 24, 2015 at 11:41 AM

    Here are my thoughts on direction & placement for current roster:

    SP:
    Fister – move to BP for long relief
    Joe Cool – move to Fister’s SP spot
    Roark – back to AAA to work on consistency

    BP:
    Acquire Chapman – for dual closer role
    Storen – dual closer role, if he struggles during a close bring AC in and vice-versa
    Janssen – 8th inning guy

    Infielders
    Uggla – DFA, the experiment is over
    CRob – 1B only, not LF, has proved to be decent hitter and OBP guy
    TyMo – 1B ahead of CRob, he is going to a future star
    Acquire – infielding bat like a Zobrist

    I really don’t see Werth or RyZimm returning to their glory days, ever. I hope I’m wrong. The future is NOW!

    #GoNats

    • micksback1 - Jul 24, 2015 at 11:46 AM

      Agree with you 100%

      great analysis

      howver, i do not think we ned a Zobrist, I think Span and Rendon will be fine and I think Werth as well, so i disagree with you on Jayson

      I have doubts on RZim and i think you are right

    • npb99 - Jul 24, 2015 at 11:47 AM

      The real question is what to give up in those acquisitions. Those guys aren’t free.
      Also, you may be only poster who thinks TyMo will become a star. Kudos for the optimism!

      • jd - Jul 24, 2015 at 11:56 AM

        In 595 career major league plate appearances TyMo’s slash is: .233 .288 .406. He’s worse than that in 2015 across the board (to be fair, very unlucky on BABIP). He’s 28 years old, so its pretty certain that he is what he is.
        Robinson is .273 .352 .413 in 2015, I understand poor defense (Moore isn’t exactly Anthony Rizzo defensively either).

        With all the injuries I don’t get how you can advocate replacing CRobb with Tymo.

    • mauimo22 - Jul 24, 2015 at 12:20 PM

      Yes, I knew the TyMo prediction might raise eyebrows and I could certainly be wrong. He’s a natural 1B and he’s smart at the plate (compared to others who flail at balls out of the zone). Give peace a chance and give TyMo some extended time at 1B and you might be amazed!
      Regarding who we give up to acquire prospects? In Rizzo We Trust!
      I like the addition of another quality infielder because if Desi struggles continue, then we can sit him down and move Espi to SS. Esco is looking a bit fragile so I’d love to have the flexibility to plug & play Esco, Rendon, Desi, Espi, and Zobrist. Plus it would be nice to have another lefty bat.

      We need to focus on scoring 5+ runs, then even Fister’s bad games won’t bite us so hard.
      Why do we strike out so much?

      • Hiram Hover - Jul 24, 2015 at 12:29 PM

        he’s smart at the plate (compared to others who flail at balls out of the zone).

        Actually, no.

        On the season, only Desi, Espi and Ramos swing at more pitches outside the zone than TyMo. Among the Nats, he’s pretty much middle of the pack in his contact rate and swinging strike rate.

  6. natsjackinfl - Jul 24, 2015 at 12:01 PM

    Tyler Moore and future star in the same sentence? Let’s get him to the level of, say, Josh Willingham first.

    Then maybe start thinking about future star except he’ll probably be approaching 31 years old or so should that happen.

  7. Ghost of Steve M. - Jul 24, 2015 at 1:06 PM

    “Jayson Stark: The asking price on Reds closer Aroldis Chapman is currently said by one American League executive to be “exorbitant,” tweets ESPN’s Jayson Stark. Other clubs doubt that Reds owner Bob Castellini is open to allowing Chapman to be moved in a trade, according to Stark. This isn’t the first time that Castellini’s name has come up as a potential road block in trades.

    Peter Gammons recently noted that the Castellini remains reluctant to authorize a sale, even in late July, and others have reported similar feelings from Castellini over the course of the summer. Retaining Chapman would make some sense if the Reds felt they have the pieces in place to make a run in 2016, but he’s already earning $8.05MM (and that figures to jump into the $12MM range this offseason) and is only controlled for one more season.”

  8. Theophilus T.S. - Jul 24, 2015 at 1:11 PM

    Chapman’s extra year (2017) is false security. That’s also Storen’s walk year, which would leave the Nats over a huge barrel. Somewhere out there is a rebuilding team with a young RH now pitching the seventh inning and w/ 3-4 years of control who could emerge as a closer. The only currency the Nats have for dealing is minor league pitching, Difo and Goodwin (for anyone risk-friendly willing to take him on). Nats don’t have much invested in Voth, Pivetta and so far as I know they’re not on the 2017 two-deep roster. They’ve got gazillions invested in Fedde, who before injury was a top-five prospect. Moving him now for anything less than as part of the acquisition of a top-level controllable player would be Rapunzel-type thinking.

    • unkyd59 - Jul 24, 2015 at 7:05 PM

      What is the “two deep” roster? And what, pray tell, is “Rapunzel-type thinking”…?

  9. rlndtln - Jul 24, 2015 at 1:15 PM

    Thats why I laughed when guys here said they would not trade Ross even up for Chapman.You would never get him for Ross and I would make that trade in a heart beat.

    • therealjohnc - Jul 24, 2015 at 1:45 PM

      I wouldn’t make that trade, especially with Roark wobbling. The Nats have openings coming up in the starting rotation, and suffice it to say I’d feel a lot more comfortable with Joe Ross in one of those slots than I would with Taylor Jordan, Taylor Hill or even Austin Voth. If Roark’s pixie dust has run out then that’s two rotation slots to be filled even before one considers the possibility of injury.

      And note: “whether the Nats could get Chapman for Ross” has absolutely no impact on whether I (or anyone else) would offer such a trade from the Nationals side. Just because someone tries to charge me $500 for a sirloin steak doesn’t make it laughable for me to offer $15.

      • nats128 - Jul 24, 2015 at 1:58 PM

        Me neither and I agree with you therealjohnc. Ross has proven to be legit. Fedde is just a prospect with a high ceiling. A big difference. Ross for Chapman seems like a big over pay.

  10. NatsLady - Jul 24, 2015 at 2:04 PM

    Hitter of the Day: Victor Robles, OF, Nationals (Auburn, SS): 4-5, R, 3B, HR, K.
    Robles is a name that you’re going to be hearing about more and more over the next few years. Having just turned 18, he’s already worked his way out of the Gulf Coast League after torching it for a month. He’s immensely talented, with his only real flaws at this point being a general lack of pro experience and a need for the strength that comes with age. As an up-the-middle defender with plus bat speed and already-refined swing mechanics, he’d be atop my acquire list if I were a team talking trade deals with the Nationals, though I doubt they’d have any interest in parting with him.

    http://www.baseballprospectus.com/article.php?articleid=27027

    • virginiascopist - Jul 24, 2015 at 3:07 PM

      I wonder if the Reds were scouting him last night instead of/in addition to Fedde.

    • Ghost of Steve M. - Jul 25, 2015 at 7:11 PM

      Good stuff. Hasn’t had some big games already at Auburn.

  11. JayB - Jul 24, 2015 at 2:35 PM

    If Rizzo was not such a hard ass about his own assessment of players we would have had Chapman the past several years….Rizzo said at a Nats Season Ticket event to my question…..Chapman was too expensive for Rizzo’s evaluation of his talent….Rizzo then when on to say he was much happier with Maya and Martin for the money……Dope….Rizzo’s only problem is he gets stuck on people he likes….HROD…UGGLA…..MOORE……long long list of players Rizzo has give way way to much value to because he did or was personally involved in the evaluations.

    • mauimo22 - Jul 24, 2015 at 5:24 PM

      I have no complaints about Mike Rizzo. He’s a top 5 GM and we’re fortunate to have him! Look around the league and show me a better GM.

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