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Game 92: Mets at Nats

Jul 21, 2015, 3:28 PM EDT

Mark Zuckerman / NATS INSIDER

Joe Ross wasn’t on many people’s radar screens when the season began, but then the young right-hander made his major-league debut last month and wowed everybody with three impressive performances before he was optioned to Class AAA Syracuse. Now, the 22-year-old is back in D.C., called up to take Stephen Strasburg’s rotation spot and start a big game tonight against the Mets.

Ross is going up against another impressive young right-hander in Jacob deGrom, the reigning NL Rookie of the Year and fresh off a dominant performance in last week’s All-Star Game (10 pitches, 3 strikeouts). The Nats actually have had some success against deGrom; he’s 0-2 with a 4.15 ERA in three career head-to-head matchups, both losses coming earlier this season.

Updates to come, so please check back…

NEW YORK METS at WASHINGTON NATIONALS
Where: Nationals Park
Gametime: 7:05 p.m. EDT
TV: MASN2, MLB.tv
Radio: 106.7 FM, 1500 AM, XM 183
Weather: Chance of storms, 87 degrees, Wind 7 mph out to RF

NATIONALS (50-41)
CF Michael Taylor
2B Danny Espinosa
RF Bryce Harper
3B Yunel Escobar
1B Clint Robinson
SS Ian Desmond
C Wilson Ramos
LF Matt den Dekker
RHP Joe Ross

METS (48-45)
RF Curtis Granderson
SS Ruben Tejada
3B Daniel Murphy
1B Lucas Duda
2B Wilmer Flores
LF Kirk Nieuwenhuis
C Kevin Plawecki
RHP Jacob deGrom
CF Juan Lagares

UMPIRES
HP Mike Muchlinski
1B Mark Wegner
2B Marty Foster
3B Mike Winters (cc)

7:05 p.m. — We are underway on a 91-degree (but clear) evening at Nationals Park. Joe Ross gets a nice ovation from the crowd as he takes the mound.

7:20 p.m. — Both pitchers went 1-2-3 in the first inning. Ross retired the side on 10 pitches, getting some help from Ian Desmond on a nice backhanded play in the hole and strong throw to first to get Daniel Murphy. DeGrom, meanwhile, was dominant out of the chute, striking out both Michael Taylor and Danny Espinosa on nine pitches (all strikes). Bryce Harper did battle through a 10-pitch at-bat before flying out to right. Scoreless through one.

7:34 p.m. — Don’t look now, but Desmond is 3 for his last 4 after sending a sharp single through the left side of the infield in the bottom of the second, the Nats’ first hit off deGrom tonight. That’s their only hit so far, which is one more than the Mets have in two innings off Ross.

7:46 p.m. — Make it 9 up, 9 down for Ross, who has picked up right where he left off the last time he was up here. Not to be outdone, deGrom has faced the minimum through three scoreless innings. Looks like we may have a real humdinger brewing here. Scoreless through three.

8:10 p.m. — So much for perfection from Ross. The Mets scratched out a run off him in the top of the fourth, with Granderson singling to center to lead off the inning, then stealing second (though Wilson Ramos’ double-clutch before throwing might have been the difference). With Granderson on third and one out, Ross got a big strikeout of Murphy. But then he plunked Lucas Duda and served up an RBI single up the middle to Wilmer Flores. So the Mets lead 1-0 after four.

8:27 p.m. — As Wilson Ramos stepped to the plate with two outs and a man on third in the bottom of the fifth just now, CSN cameraman Greg Abernathy turned to me and said: “Homer. Opposite field.” And wouldn’t you know it, The Buffalo obliged. The Nats have taken a 2-1 lead after five innings, and Abernathy is now putting money down on next year’s Kentucky Derby.

Chase here taking over while Mark works on his game story

8:40 p.m. — Both pitchers cruised through the sixth inning to set down each lineup 1-2-3. Ross needed only nine pitches and sits at 78 on the night. deGrom used only seven and has 82. It is still 2-1 Nats with the seventh inning up next.

9:08 p.m. — The Mets now lead 3-2 after the seventh inning as Ross ran into some trouble and Aaron Barrett couldn’t stop the bleeding. Ross allowed a leadoff single to Forles and Niewenhuis reached on a Robinson error. One out later, and Barrett was summoned from the bullpen. He quickly gave up a single to a pinch-hitting Eric Campbell to score both runners. The Nats then couldn’t get much of anything going in the bottom half of the inning. Felipe Rivero got the final out of the seventh and will now pitch the eighth.

9:25 p.m. — On to the ninth we go with the Mets still up 3-2. Rivero got through the eighth despited allowing two baserunners. The Nats then got nothing going against reliever Bobby Parnell. Tanner Roark will now take over to pitch the top of the ninth.

9:59 p.m. — Roark came in and allowed three runs before rookie Abel de los Santos allowed an RBI single to Flores to make it 7-2. The Nats couldn’t respond in the ninth and they have lost. They fall to 50-42 on the season.

228 Comments (Feed for Comments)
  1. unterp - Jul 21, 2015 at 3:30 PM

    let’s go Nats…

  2. npb99 - Jul 21, 2015 at 3:36 PM

    Not to hype young Mr. Ross too much, but I expect most of us Nats-addicts (Natdict?) are quite comfortable with him pitching in place of Stras.

    • zmunchkin - Jul 21, 2015 at 3:45 PM

      Naddicts?

      • npb99 - Jul 21, 2015 at 3:47 PM

        Let’s make the t-shirts!

    • Soul Possession, My Sofa - Jul 21, 2015 at 3:52 PM

      Might as well face it, you’re nat-dicted to Ross.

  3. Soul Possession, My Sofa - Jul 21, 2015 at 3:51 PM

    Going into today, Joe Ross has 20 1/3 innings. If he gets to 50, this becomes his rookie season. FYI

  4. Hiram Hover - Jul 21, 2015 at 3:56 PM

    Looking forward to seeing Ross pitch tonight. Wouldn’t mind seeing folks temper their expectations about him a little.

    On the other hand, it can’t hurt that he’s facing the worst offense in the NL.

    • npb99 - Jul 21, 2015 at 4:16 PM

      Are you suggesting you won’t be celebrating Rossmas with us?

      • Hiram Hover - Jul 21, 2015 at 4:23 PM

        If he wins, I will be celebrating with you.

        But I’m not going to join in if you start calling him Jesus.

  5. Ghost of Steve M. - Jul 21, 2015 at 4:02 PM

    Kind of surprised Ramos is playing today as he had food poisoning over the All Star break and lost a lot of weight in the heat over the weekend. Sunday was unbearable heat and to be in full catchers fear is tough. Grandal took that ball to the mask and pulled himself out of the game. Espi needed an IV on Saturday.

    Stay hydrated.

    • Soul Possession, My Sofa - Jul 21, 2015 at 4:04 PM

      • natsfan1a - Jul 21, 2015 at 4:12 PM

        Here’s looking at you, kids.

      • NatsLady - Jul 21, 2015 at 4:17 PM

        I hate that guy.

      • natsfan1a - Jul 21, 2015 at 4:33 PM

        Eh, I don’t know. The meme amuses me.

      • 3on2out - Jul 21, 2015 at 4:53 PM

        +.08

      • veejh - Jul 21, 2015 at 6:11 PM

        It’s not possible to hate the most interesting man in the world.

    • jd - Jul 21, 2015 at 4:08 PM

      Day game tomorrow so Lobaton likely to start. Hard to get to many off days during the dog days and with half your lineup on the DL. We got a lot of offense last night from Espi and Desi. Can we count on that again tonight against deGrom?

    • Doc - Jul 21, 2015 at 4:14 PM

      Yeah, “……staying thirst y my friends….” won’t work this weekend!

    • adcwonk - Jul 21, 2015 at 5:14 PM

      Kind of surprised Ramos is playing today

      But he didn’t play yesterday, and tomorrow’s a day game where, presumably, Lobaton will play.

  6. jd - Jul 21, 2015 at 4:10 PM

    NY commentators are treating tonight’s game as an almost do or die for the Mets.

    • Hiram Hover - Jul 21, 2015 at 4:14 PM

      I know what my choice would be!

    • NatsLady - Jul 21, 2015 at 4:16 PM

      How are there do-or-die games in July when they are only three games back? The media, with an assist by Terry Collins, are putting way too much pressure on. August is a long month. So is September. Svrluga’s article in the Post is on point. http://www.washingtonpost.com/sports/nationals/the-mets-dealing-with-their-own-injuries-take-aim-at-nationals/2015/07/20/73205b98-2f26-11e5-8353-1215475949f4_story.html

      • Hiram Hover - Jul 21, 2015 at 4:25 PM

        Yeah.

        On the other hand, I don’t think we should get in their way if they want to stress their players out, and are offering to roll over and die in the event of a loss.

      • chaz11963 - Jul 21, 2015 at 4:30 PM

        Mets fans and media are like the way we used to be with the Braves. They feel that they just somehow can’t win.

      • jd - Jul 21, 2015 at 4:32 PM

        NL,

        I don’t completely agree with you. I think the Mets correctly realized that they had a golden opportunity to put a move on the Nats now and perhaps even get a rental player or 2 at the trade deadline. Remember, the Nats lineup isn’t going to be this soft likely starting next week.

        Most times I agree that it’s much too early to have do or die series in July. The Mets though probably understand that if the Nats weren’t devastated by injuries they would be 10 games out, they figure that this is an unexpected opportunity for them to steal the division, I don’t blame them for thinking this way.

  7. NatsLady - Jul 21, 2015 at 4:12 PM

    • masterfishkeeper - Jul 21, 2015 at 4:36 PM

      I’d be happier if he was playing in the field, but I guess this is part of the “progession”, as MW would say. Hard to be patient, as a fan!

      • Eugene in Oregon - Jul 21, 2015 at 5:39 PM

        Patience.

  8. natsfan1a - Jul 21, 2015 at 4:12 PM

    Go get ’em, boys!

  9. Doc - Jul 21, 2015 at 4:16 PM

    Well Mark, with all due respect, Joe Cool was on my radar before the season started.

    • Bruxtun - Jul 21, 2015 at 4:22 PM

      Yeah well I was there when he was born so I saw him first.

      • Hiram Hover - Jul 21, 2015 at 4:30 PM

        That must have made his mom and dad very uncomfortable.

      • natsfan1a - Jul 21, 2015 at 4:33 PM

        Well, at least it wasn’t at conception. What?

      • Soul Possession, My Sofa - Jul 21, 2015 at 8:31 PM

        I’m sure you would have remembered that.

  10. positivelyhalfst - Jul 21, 2015 at 4:22 PM

    The great number of transactions with minor leaguers has been fun (still in first place after all), but it sure would be nice to have the regular lineup back. However, think about what it would mean to put Zim, Werth, Rendon, Span, and Stras all back in the lineup at the same time. Some of the corresponding moves are predictable- de los Santos, Ross, Burriss and den Dekker would return to the minors. After that, though, it isn’t so simple, is it? It would be really hard to send Michael Taylor down again, and Clint Robinson is a productive fan favorite.

    I keep coming back to the apparent fascination with Tyler Moore. I don’t know how he hangs on, even though he is good for a big hit every once in a while. I don’t see anybody trading for him, and I know he can’t be sent down without going through waivers. I guess it comes down to having a short bullpen by sending down Sammy Solis in the short-term. It just seems to me that a Tyler Moore decision has to be made eventually.

    Then again, Rizzo does have a way of making at least a minor trade in July or August that could make some space.

    • jd - Jul 21, 2015 at 4:37 PM

      I think Moore is still here because of all the injuries and in truth he probably hasn’t done much to increase his market value. I see him as a AAAA player all the way and this is likely were he is headed eventually. Uggla is also a potential drop.

      I am not so sure Ross isn’t part of the team for the long haul. If it takes Stras a few starts to get ready this may get us to mid August and a couple of weeks away from expanded rosters, I don’t know if the Nats have an innings limit on Ross and what it is but he sure looks like he can be a useful arm down the stretch.

      • masterfishkeeper - Jul 21, 2015 at 5:05 PM

        Ross only pitched 121 innings last year. I’d be surprised if the Nats let him go past 160. He’s at 96 now, so he could probably supply 10 starts. I’d be surprised if they shifted him to the pen, as Ghost has suggested. The Nats don’t seem to want to do that with young starters, I assume for developmental and health reasons. Sure worked okay for David Price, however.

      • jd - Jul 21, 2015 at 5:12 PM

        masterfishkeeper,

        It’s organizational philosophy. The Rays and the Cards like starting their young pitchers in the pen. Other teams, the Nats included feel that if a player is good enough to start you will get much more value out of him by developing him strictly in that direction. When they move a starter to the pen it seems to be permanent where they decide that the tool set isn’t good enough for a starting role.

  11. chaz11963 - Jul 21, 2015 at 4:31 PM

    Nats have a really tough schedule the next couple of weeks facing some great pitching with a depleted lineup. Check out Verducci’s article: http://www.si.com/mlb/2015/07/21/strike-zone-jordy-mercer-mets-risp?xid=nl_siextra

    Hope the reinforcements arrive soon!

    • adcwonk - Jul 21, 2015 at 5:17 PM

      True that, but . . . we’ve had a depleted lineup for quite a while now.

      • jd - Jul 21, 2015 at 5:35 PM

        Werth has been out all year and Zim has been gone for a long time as well and even Rendon has been out for nearly a month. I think Span’s injury really was the key blow. I really feel that if we keep out heads above water for just a few more days will be fine.

      • adcwonk - Jul 21, 2015 at 5:44 PM

        Werth has been out all year and Zim has been gone for a long time as well and even Rendon has been out for nearly a month.

        Actually, Rendon has been out pretty much the entire year, too. (Only 18 games)

        I think Span’s injury really was the key blow.

        Agreed.

        I really feel that if we keep out heads above water for just a few more days will be fine.

        I also agree with that.

  12. Theophilus T.S. - Jul 21, 2015 at 4:50 PM

    Given that both Werth and Span are recovering from injuries and may not be in prime condition, plus Taylor has demonstrated his value on a day-to-day basis — he isn’t going anywhere. Similarly, Moore has to be kept as insurance for Zimmerman. While den Dekker and Burris and one of dos Santos and Solis are easily demoted, finding a spot for the fourth returnee — probably Span — may be difficult. One possibility is that Ross will go back when Rendon returns in a day or two, as he is superfluous until Strasburg’s next turn in the rotation and Roark could take that start and the one following if necessary. Otherwise, somewhere around August 10-15, Uggla or Moore will come down with an infected toenail. Between now and when September 1 arrives and the rosters expand.I don’t see Rizzo taking a chance on losing either one of them.

    • jfmii - Jul 21, 2015 at 5:03 PM

      I think Robinson is insurance for Zimmerman

    • masterfishkeeper - Jul 21, 2015 at 5:06 PM

      Not take a chance on losing Uggla? Really? How many teams would take Uggla?

    • jd - Jul 21, 2015 at 5:15 PM

      I have to say that I rarely worry about potential open slots this close to the trade deadline. Something will happen that will free up a space or 2 and it’s not something we really have a clue about at this time.

    • chaz11963 - Jul 21, 2015 at 5:17 PM

      I really like Huggla. I don’t expect the Nats see much value with him. He is a veteran bat with pop that can’t field or run. Moore mostly the same, less veteran. I would expect both to be high on the DFA list.

      • jd - Jul 21, 2015 at 5:26 PM

        Uggla’s pop has resulted in exactly 1 home run in 110 at bats. I mean he’s had some good professional at bats leading to walks but really all in all he has been nothing more than replacement level. Moore has also been pretty dreadful but has had some occasional key pinch hits. In either case they are both replacement level players and wouldn’t represent a big loss if they leave.

        Clint Robinson has actually been very solid. If you take away a need for him to play defense he would really be a very good bench bat.

    • unkyd59 - Jul 21, 2015 at 8:17 PM

      I’m for stopping with the yo-yo action with Roark… He won’t say anything, but it’s gotta suck. Let Joe Cool take Stras’ turn til he gets back.

  13. manassasnatsfan - Jul 21, 2015 at 5:16 PM

    In Ross’s first 3 appearances 1 good 2 very very good.

    I hope tonight is no worse than the Cub game, but would love to see another like the one vs. The Pirates.

    • chaz11963 - Jul 21, 2015 at 5:18 PM

      He’s been doing well at Syracuse too. I’m anxious to see him against the Mets weak lineup.

  14. jd - Jul 21, 2015 at 5:19 PM

    The Mets lineup is a bit less bad than yesterday when they had a parade of under .200 hitters starting with the 5th place hitter. It’s not saying much but Duda is better than Mayberry and I guess Nieuwenhuis is better than Campbell. Plawecki is certainly better than Recker.

    • adcwonk - Jul 21, 2015 at 6:02 PM

      Duda’s got some pop, too — but he’s having a terrible July. For the month, he’s batting .127 — 61 plate appearances. (Going 0-for-7 in that 18 inning game sure didn’t help him!)

      Here’s hoping his slump continues two more days!

      Nieuwenhuis is hitting .172

      deGrom is hitting .205 (last year, .217)

  15. jd - Jul 21, 2015 at 5:29 PM

    How about Marlon Byrd as a pickup for the bench for the pennant drive? contract expires at the end of the year and he still has a good power bat.

    • adcwonk - Jul 21, 2015 at 5:48 PM

      Interesting . . . . .244 with some real pop (at 16 HR, he’s got 6 more than any other Nat not named Bryce).

      But, the usual question: at what price? (And, also, might that be second priority than another BP arm?)

      Still . . . intriguing

    • Theophilus T.S. - Jul 21, 2015 at 5:50 PM

      Byrd was here once and exiled — demoted to New Orleans, if I remember — because he refused direction from Frank Robinson. Plus he’s a PED alum. He’s banned from any team I might own.

      • adcwonk - Jul 21, 2015 at 5:57 PM

        He was 28 when he last played for the Nats. He’s now almost 38. A lot of water under the bridge since then….

  16. manassasnatsfan - Jul 21, 2015 at 5:36 PM

    I noticed last couple days Andrew Stevenson has been out of the lineup for Auburn. Had heard nothing of an injury. Suspect still getting used to daily grind.

    No one knows anything about an injury do you?

    • jd - Jul 21, 2015 at 5:42 PM

      wouldn’t surprise me if they move him up to a more appropriate level.

      • adcwonk - Jul 21, 2015 at 5:54 PM

        I think MNF’s question (or, if not, it’s mine) is this:

        His last appearance was for Auburn on July 17. Auburn has had four games since then (including a double-header on July 18).

        Next level for him would be Hagerstown. Hagerstown played on July 18, 19, and 20 (night off tonight).

        It doesn’t take that long to move from one team to another, does it? So, where is he?

  17. veejh - Jul 21, 2015 at 6:46 PM

    Nats own de Grom. Piece of cake tonight.

  18. veejh - Jul 21, 2015 at 6:52 PM

    I guess when your lineup is as abysmal as the Mets is, it’s ok to hit your pitcher 8th.

  19. natsnatsnatswoo - Jul 21, 2015 at 6:57 PM

    Phil Wood in for Ray Knight tonight. Can’t decide which scares me more, Phil’s hair or Casey Janssen’s twitching.

  20. natsjackinfl - Jul 21, 2015 at 7:12 PM

    Daniel Murphy is the Mets only professional hitter. And he is a liability anywhere he plays defensively.

    I like our chances although deGrom truly is their ace.

  21. natsjackinfl - Jul 21, 2015 at 7:14 PM

    This kid deGrom has picked up where he left off from the All Star game.

  22. veejh - Jul 21, 2015 at 7:19 PM

    So close. Harp almost got that.

  23. AlexandriaNatFan - Jul 21, 2015 at 7:28 PM

    Random question but my son is going to Nats Park tomorrow for the game with summer camp. I can’t remember how much cotton candy costs. Any of you know? Want to be sure I pass along enough money but not so much that he buys 73 wands of the stuff 🙂

    • veejh - Jul 21, 2015 at 7:31 PM

      LOL

    • veejh - Jul 21, 2015 at 7:33 PM

      Whenever I’m in DC and have the chance to go to a game, I’m always buying beer. However, my guess would be $5.

    • veejh - Jul 21, 2015 at 7:34 PM

      Just don’t give him $350, or that might come true.

      • AlexandriaNatFan - Jul 21, 2015 at 7:56 PM

        Ha, thanks! I was thinking about $5

  24. veejh - Jul 21, 2015 at 7:31 PM

    Hmmmmmm….another Dez hit. Keep em coming.

  25. natsjackinfl - Jul 21, 2015 at 7:38 PM

    I meant to include deGrom as the only other professional hitter in the Mets lineup.

  26. Ghost of Steve M. - Jul 21, 2015 at 7:39 PM

    den Dekker with a nice catch!!!

  27. Mrsb loves the Nats - Jul 21, 2015 at 7:44 PM

    I wonder who put the steal call on for Desi…

    • manassasnatsfan - Jul 21, 2015 at 8:16 PM

      I have no problem stealing with 2 outs. He is suppose to be fast enough.

  28. Mrsb loves the Nats - Jul 21, 2015 at 8:02 PM

    Testing… Testing…

    Been trying to post/comment and I keep getting an error message.

    • manassasnatsfan - Jul 21, 2015 at 8:15 PM

      I see this.

    • Ghost of Steve M. - Jul 21, 2015 at 8:18 PM

      Hey hey. Me too.

  29. manassasnatsfan - Jul 21, 2015 at 8:10 PM

    MAT needs a hitting coach for bunting. Two nights in a row he bunts way to close to the mound. Rick Schu work with him on bunting.

    • Ghost of Steve M. - Jul 21, 2015 at 8:17 PM

      Yep, exact same spot. A few feet closer to the line for a single.

  30. rlndtln - Jul 21, 2015 at 8:13 PM

    I prefer Joe Ross over Fister anyday.He attacks the strike zone and can get it up to mid 90s.

    • manassasnatsfan - Jul 21, 2015 at 8:17 PM

      Fister last year attacked. Being a contract year I don’t know why he is less attack mode.

  31. Ghost of Steve M. - Jul 21, 2015 at 8:16 PM

    Come on CRob. Get your feet out of the concrete.

  32. veejh - Jul 21, 2015 at 8:16 PM

    I love Ross

  33. Mrsb loves the Nats - Jul 21, 2015 at 8:19 PM

    Oh yeah baby… Jump on DeGrom… Lets do this…

  34. Mrsb loves the Nats - Jul 21, 2015 at 8:21 PM

    Great at bat CROb…

  35. Hiram Hover - Jul 21, 2015 at 8:22 PM

    OK, Ian. This could be another step on your journey back.

    • Hiram Hover - Jul 21, 2015 at 8:23 PM

      … Or a step on your way back to the dugout.

  36. manassasnatsfan - Jul 21, 2015 at 8:24 PM

    Desi had a chance to get off some people’s crap list, but old swing and miss habits are hard to break. Strike 2 appeared inside yo me.

    Ramos bails him out

    • manassasnatsfan - Jul 21, 2015 at 8:25 PM

      Ramos gave them a chance for the first run double ckuting on the steal.

    • Theophilus T.S. - Jul 21, 2015 at 8:28 PM

      Desmond was way late on a FB — he couldn’t have been expecting another slider — so, is his bat slowing down? Inquiring minds want to know.

      • Ghost of Steve M. - Jul 21, 2015 at 8:30 PM

        No, he just whiffed.

      • masterfishkeeper - Jul 21, 2015 at 8:31 PM

        That’s the pitch he’s not hitting: up and in. See the fangraphs article.

  37. veejh - Jul 21, 2015 at 8:24 PM

    Vamos Ramos!!!!!

  38. Hiram Hover - Jul 21, 2015 at 8:24 PM

    Wilson!

  39. Mrsb loves the Nats - Jul 21, 2015 at 8:25 PM

    Hmmm… okay Mr Ramos… okay.

  40. rlndtln - Jul 21, 2015 at 8:26 PM

    Thats what we need.If Desi and Ramos start hitting when the regulars come back we will be tough to beat.

    • manassasnatsfan - Jul 21, 2015 at 8:33 PM

      If those two start hitting its better than 2 trades. The 4 injured guys back as good as 4 more trades.

  41. Ghost of Steve M. - Jul 21, 2015 at 8:27 PM

    To Theo and NatsJack, there’s your Lucroy HR. The guy is coming off of food poisoning and did that.

    • masterfishkeeper - Jul 21, 2015 at 8:30 PM

      A round of food poisoning for everyone! Wait, maybe not . . .

    • Theophilus T.S. - Jul 21, 2015 at 8:32 PM

      I never saw anything about food poisoning — which seems like an odd malady likely to creep up whenever someone needs to explain a slump. Has he been food-poisoned for the past 65 or so ABs? Charlie/Dave said he was hitting .159 over that stretch (10/66?). I’m happy he hit the HR, don’t doubt me on that. But food poisoning doesn’t cause people to swing at pitches that an 12 inches off the end of the bat.

      • Ghost of Steve M. - Jul 21, 2015 at 8:44 PM

        That tidbit was from me. No excuses from him. I reported it earlier today.

  42. manassasnatsfan - Jul 21, 2015 at 8:31 PM

    I see FP read my tweet saying Buffalo made up for double pump.

  43. Mrsb loves the Nats - Jul 21, 2015 at 8:36 PM

    Granted, these are some tough aces MAT is seeing… but is he now in a slump?

  44. rlndtln - Jul 21, 2015 at 8:37 PM

    We really miss Denard and Rendon.Zim and and Werth not as much.

    • Mrsb loves the Nats - Jul 21, 2015 at 8:38 PM

      But we have to appreciate what the team is doing in their (collective) absences…

  45. veejh - Jul 21, 2015 at 8:39 PM

    Down in the zone, not up.

  46. Joe Seamhead - Jul 21, 2015 at 8:39 PM

    We’re at the park. Matt denDekker’s catch earlier was great, but that said, he has the worst batting stance that I have seen in years. He holds the top of the at an angle that seems to point at 45 degrees over his right shoulder. It takes him a full second to get the bat back into a hitting position with the pitch. No wonder his BA is so low.

  47. manassasnatsfan - Jul 21, 2015 at 8:40 PM

    Flores 2 for 3 now.

  48. manassasnatsfan - Jul 21, 2015 at 8:42 PM

    How did Robinson not get that ball holding the runner. Unbelievable

  49. Mrsb loves the Nats - Jul 21, 2015 at 8:43 PM

    Come on Joe Ross… pick up CRob…

  50. veejh - Jul 21, 2015 at 8:43 PM

    So, CRob might have some batting stuff, but that wasn’t the greatest. The ball had tons of spin and it popped on him. Nonetheless

  51. knoxvillenat - Jul 21, 2015 at 8:44 PM

    I think TyMo at first base makes that play.

    • veejh - Jul 21, 2015 at 8:45 PM

      I think Moore’s glove it better at 2nd. Was still a tough snag. The ball had tons of spin.

      • veejh - Jul 21, 2015 at 8:45 PM

        1st

    • Ghost of Steve M. - Jul 21, 2015 at 8:46 PM

      Yes. Awful. That’s 2 tonight by him. Like I said his feet are in concrete. His UZR is too kind.

      • Joe Seamhead - Jul 21, 2015 at 8:53 PM

        Heck, I think ALR would’ve got that ball.

      • Ghost of Steve M. - Jul 21, 2015 at 8:54 PM

        Yes, that he would have. The grounder at his feet , no. ALR loved those slow hops.

  52. manassasnatsfan - Jul 21, 2015 at 8:44 PM

    E3 is correct, no way that ball should have got by him. If fair at worse . double play in real life.

  53. veejh - Jul 21, 2015 at 8:44 PM

    Espi tossed Dez aside! LOL

  54. veejh - Jul 21, 2015 at 8:44 PM

    Espi tossed Dez aside! LOL

  55. Mrsb loves the Nats - Jul 21, 2015 at 8:44 PM

    That is a huge out… but man, that was dangerous as hell…

    NICE OUTTING BY JOE ROSS!!!!!

  56. Mrsb loves the Nats - Jul 21, 2015 at 8:48 PM

    Damn, I just told my dad… watch Bare let them score… dammit.

  57. Ghost of Steve M. - Jul 21, 2015 at 8:48 PM

    Those 2 runs are on Clint Robinson. Not a great pitch by Barrett.

    • knoxvillenat - Jul 21, 2015 at 8:52 PM

      With runners on second and third and one out, why didn’t the Nats walk the next batter and set up the double play possibility?

      • Ghost of Steve M. - Jul 21, 2015 at 8:53 PM

        Went for the K. Different managers handle it differently.

      • knoxvillenat - Jul 21, 2015 at 9:03 PM

        With Barrett in to pitch I dont like the possibility of a K, he is just too inconsistent for my liking.

  58. nattygoats - Jul 21, 2015 at 8:50 PM

    Ross to the bullpen. Barret to the Philadelphia. Disgusting bullpen performance. All caused by a minor leaguer playing first base.

  59. Drew - Jul 21, 2015 at 8:51 PM

    Why in the world would you take out that terrific young pitcher in the middle of an inning for Aaron Barrett?

    I could see Rivero against a lefty, but Aaron Freaking Barrett for Joe Ross?

    Why?

    • Mrsb loves the Nats - Jul 21, 2015 at 8:52 PM

      You must have ESP… My dad was sitting here saying the same thing.. lol..

    • nattygoats - Jul 21, 2015 at 8:53 PM

      Because MW is a poor manager. Could have stole this game. But thanks to the great MW . No

  60. nattygoats - Jul 21, 2015 at 8:51 PM

    Ross pitched to well for Barret to come in a do nothing. Speaking of nothing can we get MAT out of the lead off spot?

  61. scnatsfan - Jul 21, 2015 at 8:52 PM

    For all the crowing of how good our bench is this game is on Robinson.

    And Barrett, please.

  62. manassasnatsfan - Jul 21, 2015 at 8:52 PM

    As usual Aaron Barrett is just likely to give up a run as to keep inherited runners to score.

    The bullpen in general is so iffy.

    • Ghost of Steve M. - Jul 21, 2015 at 8:56 PM

      You think. Theo and NatsJack want to replace the catcher. Priorities.

  63. Mrsb loves the Nats - Jul 21, 2015 at 8:54 PM

    Time to feast on their BP… Hopefully CROb can help get those runs back…

  64. manassasnatsfan - Jul 21, 2015 at 8:55 PM

    Rizzo needs on getting rid of the bullpen problem.

    • scnatsfan - Jul 21, 2015 at 8:58 PM

      He can’t think this pen is good enough to hold leads in the playoffs

  65. scnatsfan - Jul 21, 2015 at 8:57 PM

    Barrett and Treinen are AAA all stars. We can’t count on either when September rolls around.

  66. nattygoats - Jul 21, 2015 at 8:57 PM

    Must get bullpen help at the deadline. A shame to lose this one.

  67. Mrsb loves the Nats - Jul 21, 2015 at 8:57 PM

    I wonder if Joe R stays up when SS comes back… becuz ya know, Fister, may have some type of fore arm tightness, again or something…

    • scnatsfan - Jul 21, 2015 at 9:00 PM

      Don’t worry, it’s not like SS has been sticking around for long

  68. manassasnatsfan - Jul 21, 2015 at 8:58 PM

    CRob turned a possible double play in to two runs.

    A make up from last night.

    As for Barrett he is inconsistent I would love to trust him, but he has not proven trust worthy yet.

  69. manassasnatsfan - Jul 21, 2015 at 9:00 PM

    Two hanging sliders and Harper can’t hit either well.

    • scnatsfan - Jul 21, 2015 at 9:01 PM

      If he goes cold our starters will need to throw shutouts

    • nattygoats - Jul 21, 2015 at 9:02 PM

      Harper starting to look like the undisciplined player he was 2 years ago

      • manassasnatsfan - Jul 21, 2015 at 9:22 PM

        Must be watching a different TV than me. (Don’t include the Kershaw at bats)

  70. nattygoats - Jul 21, 2015 at 9:01 PM

    Clint making it easy for Zimmerman to come back.

  71. manassasnatsfan - Jul 21, 2015 at 9:01 PM

    As much as Escobar hits to right why is Flores there?

  72. manassasnatsfan - Jul 21, 2015 at 9:03 PM

    Still mad at CRob and will be until we win this game. He opened the door for the Nets that Jie Ross had closed.

    • nattygoats - Jul 21, 2015 at 9:06 PM

      Yes yes. Me too. Bush league play.

      • manassasnatsfan - Jul 21, 2015 at 9:11 PM

        Not a bush league play, a poor play.

        It was Aaron Barrett who through gasoline on CRob error.

  73. nattygoats - Jul 21, 2015 at 9:04 PM

    Who bats after Ian Desmond? The other team. I’m pissed good night.

    • manassasnatsfan - Jul 21, 2015 at 9:06 PM

      Come back when we win.

      • nattygoats - Jul 21, 2015 at 9:19 PM

        Luv to

      • manassasnatsfan - Jul 21, 2015 at 9:23 PM

        Never see you when we win.

  74. manassasnatsfan - Jul 21, 2015 at 9:05 PM

    After his second inning hit Desi last two at bats right back swinging crappy.

  75. nattygoats - Jul 21, 2015 at 9:05 PM

    Yes I posted that before the first pitch to him.

  76. scnatsfan - Jul 21, 2015 at 9:06 PM

    Tell me again how Desmond has turned it around. He will see 200 before he sees 230.

    • manassasnatsfan - Jul 21, 2015 at 9:07 PM

      He did for 5 at bats, and has immediately gone back, swinging from his heals.

      Where is Cal Ripken to coach him in mid games

  77. rlndtln - Jul 21, 2015 at 9:09 PM

    The real problem is at the top of the order.Of course Desi and Ramos need to contribute.

    • nattygoats - Jul 21, 2015 at 9:21 PM

      I believe Ramos got what should have been the game winning HR

  78. Joe Seamhead - Jul 21, 2015 at 9:09 PM

    When CRob got the hit bringing up Desi I would have pinch run Burriss for Climt. And brought Tyler in to play first.

    • manassasnatsfan - Jul 21, 2015 at 9:13 PM

      Desi struck out so that would end up be a wasted move anyway

      • Joe Seamhead - Jul 21, 2015 at 9:23 PM

        But CRob is arguably the slowest position player on the team. You need 1 run to tie. You’re right, Desi struck out, (again) but the idea is to rattle the pitcher to help the batter. But, also bringing up Ross, and sending Difo down leaves a thin bench for MW.

  79. manassasnatsfan - Jul 21, 2015 at 9:15 PM

    Last night IBB followed by a hit.

    Tonight IBB works.

    I still hate IBB.

  80. manassasnatsfan - Jul 21, 2015 at 9:16 PM

    If it is the best hitter on the team it is OK, but no one on the Mets worth IBB

  81. manassasnatsfan - Jul 21, 2015 at 9:20 PM

    Come on guys Parnell can’t be that good.

  82. ogremj - Jul 21, 2015 at 9:24 PM

    4 flipping hits.

    • manassasnatsfan - Jul 21, 2015 at 9:25 PM

      Had CRob fielded right, that would be enough.

  83. manassasnatsfan - Jul 21, 2015 at 9:24 PM

    Come on Uggla that ball could be plastered to right, and you stare at it.

    You swung at one much worse the pitch before.

  84. Mrsb loves the Nats - Jul 21, 2015 at 9:26 PM

    Jesus… what the heck was that guys!?!?!?!

    • manassasnatsfan - Jul 21, 2015 at 9:28 PM

      A mediocre throw with a terrible catch.

  85. manassasnatsfan - Jul 21, 2015 at 9:27 PM

    What kind of throw was that really shirt hopped Espinosa. Still you must knock it down.

  86. Ghost of Steve M. - Jul 21, 2015 at 9:27 PM

    Roark gives up the single on the first pitch and then the 2 base error on the throw.

    • manassasnatsfan - Jul 21, 2015 at 9:29 PM

      The throw was not good but the catch was awful. I would give E4

    • Joe Seamhead - Jul 21, 2015 at 9:33 PM

      AAAA player. He’s had a couple of moments in the sun. But Espinosa should’ve kept that ball in front of him. Lackadaisical effort by Danny.

      • Ghost of Steve M. - Jul 21, 2015 at 9:36 PM

        Not sure what happens if the runner is held at first but Roark has already given up 2 singles and a walk to the first 4 batters he faces.

      • Ghost of Steve M. - Jul 21, 2015 at 9:37 PM

        Make that 3 singles and a walk. Oh Roark

      • Ghost of Steve M. - Jul 21, 2015 at 9:39 PM

        I’ve lost count now. Great starting pitching wasted.

  87. rlndtln - Jul 21, 2015 at 9:28 PM

    The only thing MW could have done tonite if he had confidence in the bullpen was to lift Ross after 6.The Mets bull pen 7,8 and 9 is better than what we have.Anybody who thinks the Mets are going away with that starting pitching and the 3 guys in the pen is crazy.They eventually will hit better and will get a hitter soon.

  88. rlndtln - Jul 21, 2015 at 9:29 PM

    The only role for Roark is a long man.,

  89. scnatsfan - Jul 21, 2015 at 9:29 PM

    Tanner another guy throwing beach balls. You can blame it on moving him to the pen but he is making me think last year was an aberration.

  90. nattygoats - Jul 21, 2015 at 9:30 PM

    And once again the Bullpen eliminates any hope of victory. Roaring mad

  91. Mrsb loves the Nats - Jul 21, 2015 at 9:32 PM

    This game is such a disappointment given how great Joe R was tonight…

    • conatsguy - Jul 21, 2015 at 9:38 PM

      Agree. Pitch count was 88. Got to let the kid try and get out of that jam. Did it once tonite.

  92. manassasnatsfan - Jul 21, 2015 at 9:32 PM

    The scorer gave E7, but to me clearly E4. Just knock the ball down and no advance.

  93. rlndtln - Jul 21, 2015 at 9:33 PM

    If you are trying to keep it a 1 run game why would you not bring in a lefty to face granderson?Did the same thing Sunday with Eithier.

    • manassasnatsfan - Jul 21, 2015 at 9:43 PM

      Solis was available but MW not interested.

  94. manassasnatsfan - Jul 21, 2015 at 9:35 PM

    The relievers outside Rivero just simply keypt Joe Ross down.

    Rizzo obviously knows what we needs. Is he willing to get it.

    Twice in three games losing by one going into the 9th and a pitcher can’t get enough batters out before damage is done.

  95. Mrsb loves the Nats - Jul 21, 2015 at 9:36 PM

    I said the other day, I didn’t trust Tanner…

  96. manassasnatsfan - Jul 21, 2015 at 9:37 PM

    Jeez am I watching Sundays game again. Roark looking just as bad as atrainen.

  97. rlndtln - Jul 21, 2015 at 9:37 PM

    If you do not use Solis for 1 batter in the 9th why are we keeping him here.We are now watching the Mets begin to hit.look out.

  98. Mrsb loves the Nats - Jul 21, 2015 at 9:37 PM

    Why burn another pitcher… leave Tanner out there.

  99. natslive - Jul 21, 2015 at 9:38 PM

    Roark pouring gas on the fire again…..too bad the good effort by Ross wasted

  100. manassasnatsfan - Jul 21, 2015 at 9:38 PM

    Two runs score before McCatty makes an appearance. I want him out there before the first run.

  101. Jfmii - Jul 21, 2015 at 9:38 PM

    Roark throwing batting practice

  102. manassasnatsfan - Jul 21, 2015 at 9:40 PM

    Took MW forever Sunday to take care if business than again tonight when Roark looked just like Rraiben he slow on the trigger.

    Rizzo needs to fix this problem. To many weak links out there.

  103. rlndtln - Jul 21, 2015 at 9:41 PM

    If this was last year Ross would have left after 6 and the game would have been over.We need more than 1 reliever.Outside of Storen nobody has consistently performed that you could trust in a playoff situation.

  104. manassasnatsfan - Jul 21, 2015 at 9:42 PM

    CRob started the fire Barrett through in gas. Rivero looked like he put it out, but the embers must have been hot and Roark might as well thrown Kerosine on it.

  105. philipd763 - Jul 21, 2015 at 9:42 PM

    Moving Roark from a starter to the bullpen has been a disaster and is getting worse with every appearance.

    • manassasnatsfan - Jul 21, 2015 at 9:46 PM

      If you have the stuff to start, there is no reason you come in pitch like this and get 1 guy out of 6 out. Most bull pen pitchers have 2 pitches at mist so I don’t buy it.

      He is not focused it seems to me

  106. rlndtln - Jul 21, 2015 at 9:43 PM

    Listen what FP just said about the BP keeping it close in a game you are behind.We can do neither..

  107. Mrsb loves the Nats - Jul 21, 2015 at 9:45 PM

    Please Rizzo… please, do something about this BP. I am reminded of 2013 when I think about them.

    • nattygoats - Jul 21, 2015 at 9:48 PM

      Great point. Get help ASAP

  108. manassasnatsfan - Jul 21, 2015 at 9:47 PM

    Rizzo has 10 days to fix the BP if he is any good he will do it.

  109. rlndtln - Jul 21, 2015 at 9:49 PM

    we have short memories on our past bullpens.Stammen,Storen,Clippard,even Soriano is better than what we have not to mention Blevins we gave away to the Mets.We are left with Storen.We can not win with these rejects.

  110. manassasnatsfan - Jul 21, 2015 at 9:50 PM

    Let’s see how they do with 5 runs needed

  111. manassasnatsfan - Jul 21, 2015 at 9:51 PM

    We made 2 errors and both times it created terrible results.

  112. rlndtln - Jul 21, 2015 at 9:52 PM

    If you did not use Solis in the 9th you never will.

  113. manassasnatsfan - Jul 21, 2015 at 9:52 PM

    Espi hustles

  114. rlndtln - Jul 21, 2015 at 9:52 PM

    How would you like to be behind 1 with Bryce up now?

    • manassasnatsfan - Jul 21, 2015 at 9:56 PM

      Obviously Roark like Trainan on Sunday were not up to the task in the 9th

  115. manassasnatsfan - Jul 21, 2015 at 9:53 PM

    Damn pitch hit right on the foot.

  116. manassasnatsfan - Jul 21, 2015 at 9:54 PM

    Roark killed us tonight.

  117. manassasnatsfan - Jul 21, 2015 at 9:57 PM

    Of the 5 pitches to Escobar the one that hittable was strike 1 and he could not have been less interested in that one.

  118. manassasnatsfan - Jul 21, 2015 at 9:59 PM

    How did 5 guys cheering for the Mets get that good a seat?

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