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Around the NL East: Should the Mets make a big deadline splash?

Jul 10, 2015, 11:00 AM EST

Jul 3, 2015; Los Angeles, CA, USA; New York Mets manager Terry Collins (10) looks on during the fourth inning against the Los Angeles Dodgers at Dodger Stadium. Mandatory Credit: Jake Roth-USA TODAY Sports

ATLANTA BRAVES 

As the trade deadline approaches, are the Braves buyers or sellers? What if they’re both? It appears that assistant GM John Coppolella might be trying to tow the line between trying to make the club immediately better while also building for the future. On one hand, he has veterans like left fielder Chris Johnson, closer Jason Grilli and others that would surely get the attention of contenders who are looking for some help. But Coppolella was recently quoted as saying “we don’t want to lose 100 games or put our fan base through any type of extended suffering”. So if that’s truly the case, it’s hard to really get a read on exactly what Atlanta will do come July 31.

MIAMI MARLINS 

It’s been two starts for Jose Fernandez since his return from Tommy John surgery, and it’s like he never left. The 22-year-old righty is 2-0, allowing a combined three runs while striking out 15 and walking none. His velocity was consistently in the 95 mph range and his command was about as good most baseball fans remember. Of course, the shame of it all is that Fernandez’ return comes when the Marlins are already down for the count for the season, as they’re at 36-50 and without their best player in Giancarlo Stanton. If Miami fans are looking for a silver lining for 2015, Fernandez’ reemergence is just about all they got right now.

NEW YORK METS  

So much for the euphoria of the Steven Matz era in New York. Just two starts into his big league career, the rookie left hander partially tore his left lat muscle, sidelining him for several weeks. He became the fifth pitcher in franchise history to win each of his first two starts, and managed to collect five RBIs. As weird as it is to say, the Mets might miss Matz’ bat more than anything; that goes to show just how starved New York is for some offense.

Speaking of which, baseball pundits are debating whether or not GM Sandy Alderson should make a big splash at the trade deadline. While some are arguing that the Mets — who sit three games back of the Nationals in the NL East — are a big bat away from being a playoff team, others are saying this roster simply isn’t ready to contend just yet, and that trading prospects would endanger vying for a postseason berth in 2016 and beyond. Despite their recent struggles, it’s clear that the Mets are (for the most part) on the upswing as an organization, and are probably one offensive-minded offseason away from becoming a serious threat in this division.

PHILADELPHIA PHILLIES 

At this point, it’s almost futile to discuss what the Phillies are doing on the field on a day-to-day basis; they have the worst record in the game with a interim manager and a GM in Ruben Amaro Jr. who is in serious danger of losing his job at the end of the season. That being said, the trade deadline does represent a bit of an oasis for Philly fans as the club will try desperately to get whatever it can in return for Cole Hamels, Jonathan Papelbon and other veterans. It’s been said that the Phillies have previously been asking for a little too much for their players, but you wonder if that’s about to change as the deadline draws closer.

  1. unterp - Jul 10, 2015 at 11:28 AM

    Around the NL East: Should the Mets make a big deadline splash?

    yes…

    • veejh - Jul 10, 2015 at 1:18 PM

      I say no (as a Nats fan).

  2. alexva6 - Jul 10, 2015 at 11:33 AM

    the Mets have a very good farm system and I think they should look to the Astros for how quickly prospects can bring results. you can also look at the Padres for how a plan can go wrong

    up to me? convince the fans to be patient and hope to catch lightening in a bottle the rest of the year

    • bowdenball - Jul 10, 2015 at 2:06 PM

      For what it’s worth their farm system isn’t nearly as good as the 2015 rankings would lead you to believe, because it was ranked highly in part because of players already in the big leagues. The #1, #2, #5 and #8 guys in their system according to Baseball America are already on the big league roster. They only had two guys on the midseason Top 50: Conforto at 14 and Nimmo at 48. And those guys are both 22 year old OFs who are presumably slotted to take over for Cuddyer and Granderson in a year or two.

      • alexva6 - Jul 10, 2015 at 6:58 PM

        so they have several players playing for them now and two more top prospects age 22. and to you that means they don’t have a good farm system? I can’t claim to have seen any of them but my research is that they have a very good farm system.

        half full/half empty they are well positioned for an influx of players. no need to chase a potential pipe dream

  3. catcher50 - Jul 10, 2015 at 11:33 AM

    One odd thing about the Marlins…As Zim, Ramos and others can testify, while Stanton may get back from HofH surgery very late this year, it actually takes about a year after the return to get back to full power.

    • nats128 - Jul 10, 2015 at 11:37 AM

      Thats what they say and in Stantons case he will hit 400 ft HRs instead of 450. It will cost him some HR to CF.

    • natsnatsnatswoo - Jul 10, 2015 at 11:39 AM

      So he’ll be hitting them just over the fence instead of into the stratosphere. Still a home run.

    • therealjohnc - Jul 10, 2015 at 11:42 AM

      One issue that few people talked about with his massive contract extension was Stanton’s injury history. Stanton is truly awesome when he is healthy, but even in his early 20’s his ability to stay on the field is a lot closer to Tulowitzky than it is to Ripken. At least Ryan Zimmerman waited until he was pushing 30 to start battling with injuries – Stanton has been injury prone pretty much from Day One.

  4. Danny - Jul 10, 2015 at 12:00 PM

    With our injuries coupled with their pitching. Sure.

  5. rayvil01 - Jul 10, 2015 at 12:06 PM

    Some of the rumors up in Mets Land is that they want Jean Segura from Milwaukee. Can’t really see that changing the equation all that much. The bat they need is Justin Upton. He’s going to fetch a nice return and should have plenty of shoppers.

    Who are the Reds shopping other than Cueto?

    • masterfishkeeper - Jul 10, 2015 at 12:15 PM

      Supposedly Jay Bruce is available.

    • jd - Jul 10, 2015 at 12:21 PM

      The Mets history indicates that they won’t take on a contract such as Upton’s. I don’t think Segura will move the needle at all.

    • virginiascopist - Jul 10, 2015 at 12:51 PM

      “Who are the Reds shopping other than Cueto?”

      Presumably, Mike Leake and Marlon Byrd (and, of course, Aroldis Chapman)

      • Ghost of Steve M. - Jul 10, 2015 at 1:46 PM

        They’re like the Phoolies, the asking prices are ridiculous.

  6. Ghost of Steve M. - Jul 10, 2015 at 1:05 PM

    “@jimcallis: 3rd-rder Rhett Wiseman’s bonus from @Nationals = $554,100 (full 103 slot). Vanderbilt OF, avg tools across board, plus makeup. @MLBDraft”

    I predicted $550,00. He was asking for $700,000. Got slot.Good job Riz!

  7. Muddy Ruel - Jul 10, 2015 at 1:20 PM

    Looks like the Nats have signed Rhett Wiseman. Baseball America has changed his draft listing bonus from “pool” to, well, to nothing — as in nothing posted as yet. Guess the Nats haven’t released the $$ details yet. Anyhow, Wiseman is now on the Doubledays roster! Having Rhett and Andrew Stevenson is exciting. A good draft — again — I’d say for Rizzo and company.

    Also, I visited Cooperstown last weekend and was glad to see a special exhibit of Muddy Ruel’s glove and other catcher’s stuff, along with some of the Big Train’s gear, in a special Senators exhibit honoring the 1924-5 Nats. The exhibit said that the 1924-5 team put a stop to “first in was, first in peace, last in the American League”, but I thought that originated in the late ’50s. …

    • nats128 - Jul 10, 2015 at 2:02 PM

      For what they had to work with at the end of the 2nd round I would agree. Interested to hear about Blake Perkins.

  8. Muddy Ruel - Jul 10, 2015 at 1:21 PM

    Oops, I’m a bit late. Too much editing I guess!

  9. nats128 - Jul 10, 2015 at 2:03 PM

    Oreos are still screwing around. Still havent named there starter for tonight.

    • Ghost of Steve M. - Jul 10, 2015 at 2:12 PM

      When Roch Kubatko of MASN-O was asked for the Os starters he tweeted this:

      “@masnRoch: @Karlsbad25 haven’t been announced. Scherzer expected Sunday.”

      • nats128 - Jul 10, 2015 at 2:33 PM

        “Scherzer expected Sunday”. I guess that would be big news.

  10. Sec 3, My Sofa - Jul 10, 2015 at 2:13 PM

    John Smoltz worries he may be last Tommy John pitcher in Hall of Fame
    Bob Nightengale, USA TODAY Sports
    1 day ago

    http://www.usatoday.com/story/sports/mlb/2015/07/08/john-smoltz-hall-of-fame-tommy-john-surgery/29874857/

    • TimDz - Jul 10, 2015 at 2:20 PM

      Smoltz has a pretty inflated sense of himself…

      • nats128 - Jul 10, 2015 at 2:34 PM

        Yes he does and also some narrow views of the world.

    • Hiram Hover - Jul 10, 2015 at 2:44 PM

      It’s a tough call as to which is greater in that article–his vanity or his crotchetiness.

  11. Hiram Hover - Jul 10, 2015 at 2:45 PM

    Lotsa news on the tweeter–Span to DL, JZim to paternity list.

    Thanks, Mark!

    • nats128 - Jul 10, 2015 at 2:48 PM

      Ugh. Could JZ pitch Sunday or will he be out for the full 3 days. Now the pool to pick from is Gio, Roark, Fister, and Scherzer for the starters.

  12. nats128 - Jul 10, 2015 at 2:45 PM

    “From Roch Kubatko:
    Denard Span is 5-for-12 with two doubles against Tillman. Span is 4-for-9 with two triples against Matusz.
    Bryce Harper is a career .194/.326/.278 hitter in 10 games against the Orioles, going 7-for-36 with a double, a triple and seven strikeouts. He’s got a .167/.250/.222 slash line in five games at Camden Yards, going 3-for-18 with a double and six strikeouts.”

    Should we tell Rock that Denard Span isnt playing this weekend?

    • Ghost of Steve M. - Jul 10, 2015 at 2:55 PM

      I saw that from today. That shows no grasp on what’s going on. We already knew days ago Span wasn’t playing this weekend. The question was whether he would be on the DL which seemed likely given the schedule.

      • nats128 - Jul 10, 2015 at 2:55 PM

        Yes, that was from Rock’s post from today.

  13. Ghost of Steve M. - Jul 10, 2015 at 2:53 PM

    “From Mark: Span to DL, Zimmermann to paternity list, Difo called up, Barrett activated off DL.”

    Not shocking but what is the report on Span and does that give clarity on the Saturday and Sunday starters.

    • masterfishkeeper - Jul 10, 2015 at 2:55 PM

      Does it? Can’t you start Roark tomorrow and Fister Sunday?

      • nats128 - Jul 10, 2015 at 3:09 PM

        I think that was a rhetorical question as it doesnt give clarity. 😉

    • tcostant - Jul 10, 2015 at 2:56 PM

      J. Zimmermann to the paternity list & Barrett back too. Figure now Sat is Fister and Sundat is Mad Max.

      • Ghost of Steve M. - Jul 10, 2015 at 2:59 PM

        Or JZim returns for Sunday or Roark starts a game. Who knows. Things have changed with the Wednesday rainout and JZim’s paternity leave.

    • bowdenball - Jul 10, 2015 at 3:03 PM

      Well I guess that nullifies the whole Scherzer Sunday start debate. Best of luck to Jordan and his wife!

      • Ghost of Steve M. - Jul 10, 2015 at 3:05 PM

        Scherzer scheduled for a bullpen today. We will see. Everything now points to Sunday. Clears way for Greinke to start the ASG.

      • nats128 - Jul 10, 2015 at 3:12 PM

        Unless its a smokescreen. Little Bucky is playing games with not announcing his rotation. Difference is the Nats had a rainout, a pitcher whose wife is due to give birth, and a Ace who could be the Allstar Game starter. Understandable to be up in the air even with MW saying Wednesday afternoon he know who his starters were.

        Little Bucky has done this before.

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