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Game 76: Nats at Phillies

Jun 28, 2015, 4:42 PM EDT

Mark Zuckerman / NATS INSIDER

PHILADELPHIA — And we’re back for Game 2 of this doubleheader, with the Nationals now looking to extend their winning streak to nine games and sweep this weekend series from the Phillies.

It’s Tanner Roark getting the start for the Nats, a decision that wasn’t made until late in Game 1, once it was clear he wouldn’t be needed in relief in the opener. Matt Williams said the right-hander has “no restrictions,” so he can go plenty of innings and pitches this afternoon. Rookie right-hander Severino Gonzalez starts for the Phillies.

The Nationals did bring Taylor Jordan in from Syracuse in case he was needed to start Game 2, but since that’s not needed anymore, it’s actually infielder Wilmer Difo called up from Harrisburg as the 26th man for the game. Given the beat-up nature of the Nats’ lineup, an extra healthy body on the bench isn’t such a bad idea. Speaking of that, Bryce Harper and Denard Span are both out for the nightcap, but Yunel Escobar is back in the lineup.

Updates to come…

WASHINGTON NATIONALS at PHILADELPHIA PHILLIES
Where: Citizens Bank Park, Philadelphia
Gametime: 4:45 p.m. EDT
TV: MASN, MLB.tv
Radio: 106.7 FM, 1500 AM, XM 185/869
Weather: Partly cloudy, 79 degrees, Wind 17 mph out to RF

NATIONALS (42-33)
CF Michael Taylor
2B Danny Espinosa
3B Yunel Escobar
LF Clint Robinson
SS Ian Desmond
C Jose Lobaton
1B Tyler Moore
RF Matt den Dekker
RHP Tanner Roark

PHILLIES (26-50)
CF Odubel Herrera
2B Cesar Hernandez
3B Maikel Franco
RF Domonic Brown
1B Darin Ruf
LF Cody Asche
C Carlos Ruiz
SS Andres Blanco
RHP Severino Gonzalez

UMPIRES
HP Jerry Meals (cc)
1B Andy Fletcher
2B Jordan Baker
3B Sean Barber

4:46 p.m. — And we’re underway again with Michael Taylor at the plate and Severino Gonzalez on the hill.

5:07 p.m. — Scoreless first inning in the books. The Nats nearly took a 2-0 lead when Clint Robinson crushed a ball down the right-field line and into the second deck … but just foul, as confirmed by a replay review. Tanner Roark, meanwhile, pitched around an infield single and a ball bobbled by Ian Desmond to post a zero during a 17-pitch bottom of the first.

5:36 p.m. — Well, that was a painful bottom of the second to watch. The Phillies scored four runs on six hits, batting around, but nearly every hit was a groundball that just happened to be perfectly placed. They already have three infield hits, plus a couple more grounders just through the hole. Roark hasn’t been dynamite, but he has deserved better luck than this. The worst part is, he’s already thrown 52 pitches. Which isn’t what you want in a doubleheader. Nats down 4-0 after two.

5:50 p.m. — A desperately needed 4-6-3 double play gets Roark out of the third at 64 pitches. His teammates aren’t doing much against Severino Gonzalez so far, though. So it remains 4-0 Phillies heading to the fourth.

6:35 p.m. — Yeah, the fourth inning took 45 minutes to complete. It wasn’t pretty. Well, the top of the inning was. It included three runs scored by the Nats, two on a gargantuan home run by Desmond, a 458-foot shot that struck the last row of the bleachers in deep left-center, the longest homer hit in this ballpark this season. That trimmed the lead to 4-3. Unfortunately, the Phillies got four runs back in the bottom of the inning, knocking Roark out of the game in the process. He gave up 12 hits, 11 of them singles. Felipe Rivero entered and couldn’t completely put out the fire. So it’s now 8-3 Phillies after four very long innings on a very long day at the ballpark.

7:11 p.m. — We’ve completed six innings now, and the Nats have trimmed the lead to 8-4 via a second-deck homer by Jose Lobaton. Yes, Jose Lobaton. Blake Treinen took over in the bottom of the sixth and retired the side, a much-needed development. The Nats still have a shot here against the Phillies bullpen.

7:36 p.m. — Make it 8-5 as the Nats keep chipping away. Clint Robinson’s 2-out RBI single scored Taylor in the top of the seventh. Nice job by Treinen, as well, with two perfect innings of relief. So we go to the eighth, the Nats down 3 runs.

7:51 p.m. — Nothing happening in the eighth. So the Nats are down to their last three outs, still trailing by three runs.

8:00 p.m. — That’ll do it. Nats lose 8-5. Their winning streak is snapped at 8 games.

295 Comments (Feed for Comments)
  1. manassasnatsfan - Jun 28, 2015 at 4:46 PM

    I sure hope Jerry Meals dies better than Emmil did in game 1

    • manassasnatsfan - Jun 28, 2015 at 4:47 PM

      Does better. Fat finger desease.

    • Ghost of Steve M. - Jun 28, 2015 at 4:54 PM

      1st big call right here on CRob’s HR

  2. natslive - Jun 28, 2015 at 4:46 PM

    Rather see Desi on the bench and Danny at SS with Uggla at 2B or even Difo since he is here…..

  3. veejh - Jun 28, 2015 at 4:48 PM

    Nice to see Stras back up his previous start with another good one.

  4. manassasnatsfan - Jun 28, 2015 at 4:49 PM

    This guy has a 91 mph fast ball . by the second time through we should toast him.

  5. manassasnatsfan - Jun 28, 2015 at 4:50 PM

    Difo not Jordan the extra player.

    • Ghost of Steve M. - Jun 28, 2015 at 4:52 PM

      Yes, both were there. I would have kept TJord as the long-man but I suppose that Treinen moves to that spot.

  6. Ghost of Steve M. - Jun 28, 2015 at 4:50 PM

    The Rookie pitcher Matz in NY was greeted rudely. 1st batter he faces in his MLB career hits a leadoff HR. Welcome to the Bigs!

    • veejh - Jun 28, 2015 at 4:54 PM

      They’re high on Matz, right?

      • Ghost of Steve M. - Jun 28, 2015 at 4:55 PM

        Yes they are. Enough that they are hoping to trade Niese.

  7. Ghost of Steve M. - Jun 28, 2015 at 4:53 PM

    That shot by CRob looks right over the foul pole which is a HR

    • manassasnatsfan - Jun 28, 2015 at 4:55 PM

      It was a terrible camera angle to judge.

  8. manassasnatsfan - Jun 28, 2015 at 4:54 PM

    The ball was to high to me to see on my TV. Couldn’t overturn yhis

    • Ghost of Steve M. - Jun 28, 2015 at 4:56 PM

      You need 2 angles to show where it was as you see it going over the foul pole and they didn’t have that angle.

      • manassasnatsfan - Jun 28, 2015 at 5:10 PM

        Every station should have a camera down each line. Where I sit at Nats park. I can see a foul or home run to left easily.

  9. Joe Seamhead - Jun 28, 2015 at 4:55 PM

    I don’t know. That looks possibly fair.

    • Joe Seamhead - Jun 28, 2015 at 4:56 PM

      On the last replay it looked very, very close. Oh, well.l

      • manassasnatsfan - Jun 28, 2015 at 5:01 PM

        Needed a camera down the line.

  10. mauimo22 - Jun 28, 2015 at 4:57 PM

    #CookSomePhools

  11. manassasnatsfan - Jun 28, 2015 at 5:00 PM

    Safe. Desi way to slow setting up to throw.

  12. veejh - Jun 28, 2015 at 5:00 PM

    Hernandez fast like cheetah

  13. Eric - Jun 28, 2015 at 5:03 PM

    Incredible that we’re suddenly knocking on the door of a 10-game winning streak.

    Go Nats!

    • veejh - Jun 28, 2015 at 5:04 PM

      2 Ruth impressions will be owed.

  14. Joe Seamhead - Jun 28, 2015 at 5:03 PM

    E-6

    • veejh - Jun 28, 2015 at 5:05 PM

      what’s new.

    • Ghost of Steve M. - Jun 28, 2015 at 5:06 PM

      Tough call there. Could go either way.

  15. manassasnatsfan - Jun 28, 2015 at 5:03 PM

    Damn you Desi. First you wound up on the first one, this time you don’t bother to field it.

    How you expect to get that big check?

  16. rlndtln - Jun 28, 2015 at 5:03 PM

    Should have been 123.

  17. manassasnatsfan - Jun 28, 2015 at 5:04 PM

    Should be three outs now. Tanner bail out Desi.

    • Eric - Jun 28, 2015 at 5:07 PM

      Phew!

      Amazingly he’s still under 20 pitches.

      • manassasnatsfan - Jun 28, 2015 at 5:08 PM

        Would have been 12 pitches.

  18. Ghost of Steve M. - Jun 28, 2015 at 5:07 PM

    Espi played perfectly on Ruf.

  19. veejh - Jun 28, 2015 at 5:07 PM

    Roark bails out Dez. Say thank you, Dez.

  20. manassasnatsfan - Jun 28, 2015 at 5:07 PM

    6 extra pitches. Desi you better be hitting the next time up.

  21. veejh - Jun 28, 2015 at 5:10 PM

    nice snag

    • manassasnatsfan - Jun 28, 2015 at 5:12 PM

      Self defense.

      • veejh - Jun 28, 2015 at 5:13 PM

        nice snag

  22. manassasnatsfan - Jun 28, 2015 at 5:12 PM

    This guys fast barely faster than batting practice. Second time round we should clobber him.

    • stoatva - Jun 28, 2015 at 5:22 PM

      Yea, and he’s been throwing the kitchen sink at everyone the first time through.

  23. manassasnatsfan - Jun 28, 2015 at 5:15 PM

    Game day had Moire swinging at ball 4 but was close.

    • stoatva - Jun 28, 2015 at 5:24 PM

      It’s hard for anyone to know what they should or shouldn’t swing at when the strike zone goes skipping around all over the place.

  24. Ghost of Steve M. - Jun 28, 2015 at 5:17 PM

    Steven Matz with his first career AB just hits a 2 run double. 2-1 Mets.

    • manassasnatsfan - Jun 28, 2015 at 5:22 PM

      Both runs unearned

      • Ghost of Steve M. - Jun 28, 2015 at 5:24 PM

        Yes. Still good hitting by the pitcher in his first career at-bat.

  25. Ghost of Steve M. - Jun 28, 2015 at 5:19 PM

    Tanner Roark doesn’t get the 2-2 call.

  26. manassasnatsfan - Jun 28, 2015 at 5:20 PM

    Ball 3 was strike 3. Naked eye told me then gamecast confirmed it

    • Ghost of Steve M. - Jun 28, 2015 at 5:23 PM

      Gamecast is a waste of time as I’ve said to you before. It’s some person sitting in the stadium plugging a location in a computer peg board. Not sure why they don’t use the MLBAM system to get it exact, but they don’t.

      • manassasnatsfan - Jun 28, 2015 at 5:26 PM

        Was it a strike there?

      • Ghost of Steve M. - Jun 28, 2015 at 5:27 PM

        The Nats Strike Zone thingie on Twitter didn’t think so, but I thought it was.

  27. Ghost of Steve M. - Jun 28, 2015 at 5:20 PM

    Nice play by Desi on the over-the-shoulder catch. Almost doubles Asche off 1st.

  28. manassasnatsfan - Jun 28, 2015 at 5:25 PM

    Hanging slider clobbered for a double.

    So far Tanner has been less than we wanted.

    • Ghost of Steve M. - Jun 28, 2015 at 5:26 PM

      Needs some K’s here.

      • manassasnatsfan - Jun 28, 2015 at 5:27 PM

        He needed a k against an experienced batter and he can’t get it.

  29. Ghost of Steve M. - Jun 28, 2015 at 5:26 PM

    Roark has been missing locations badly.

    • manassasnatsfan - Jun 28, 2015 at 5:28 PM

      Cone on Espi straight throw he is out.

  30. Ghost of Steve M. - Jun 28, 2015 at 5:28 PM

    Roark has the pitcher 1-2 and can’t strike him out. Where was the big breaker? Poor execution by Roark.

    • manassasnatsfan - Jun 28, 2015 at 5:29 PM

      Pitch selection to the pitcher made no sense. Needed the K.

  31. stoatva - Jun 28, 2015 at 5:29 PM

    Two runs ain’t gonna win this one, folks.

    • manassasnatsfan - Jun 28, 2015 at 5:32 PM

      You never know.

  32. manassasnatsfan - Jun 28, 2015 at 5:31 PM

    He pitched around Desi’s error, but can’t pitch around his poorly pitched pitches.

    As usual McCatty is late to the party.

  33. veejh - Jun 28, 2015 at 5:31 PM

    I blame all this bad pitching on Dez from last inning.

    • manassasnatsfan - Jun 28, 2015 at 5:34 PM

      I don’t.

      He is getting ahead of the batters than missing the location for a k.

  34. Ghost of Steve M. - Jun 28, 2015 at 5:33 PM

    That 0-1 pitch to Franco is the pitch he need to throw the pitcher. I don’t get it. Not a chance the pitcher gets wood on that.

  35. Joe Seamhead - Jun 28, 2015 at 5:33 PM

    Come on guys. This is the Little Sisters of the Poor you’re playing here with the Mother Superior pitching for them.

  36. stoatva - Jun 28, 2015 at 5:33 PM

    Bitten by BABIP.

    • Ghost of Steve M. - Jun 28, 2015 at 5:35 PM

      Yes, but you make your own luck and Roark didn’t do that with the pitcher up. That was the luck you needed at that point in the game.

    • manassasnatsfan - Jun 28, 2015 at 5:36 PM

      BABIP often times have fielders not positioned to where the pitcher is pitching. A mismatch.

  37. manassasnatsfan - Jun 28, 2015 at 5:35 PM

    Our fielders are just out of position. Tanner is not pitching to where we are positioned.

  38. veejh - Jun 28, 2015 at 5:35 PM

    Too bad Roark has to be left out there. Not very sharp.

    • scnatsfan - Jun 28, 2015 at 5:40 PM

      And he is getting squeezed

  39. natslive - Jun 28, 2015 at 5:35 PM

    Looking like they should have kept Jordan

    • stoatva - Jun 28, 2015 at 5:36 PM

      The old “should have done the other thing” analysis.

      • stoatva - Jun 28, 2015 at 5:42 PM

        Last time I saw TJ he gave up four before we ever got to bat.

    • natslive - Jun 28, 2015 at 6:37 PM

      Kind of a moot point now but saying that so he could relieve Roark if necessary……you just never know….

  40. scnatsfan - Jun 28, 2015 at 5:36 PM

    Nats getting nickel and dimed to death. Roark not getting calls, not putting guys away. Horrible defense. Giving the game way to a AAA team.

    • stoatva - Jun 28, 2015 at 5:40 PM

      Top of the third inning on my teevee.

    • manassasnatsfan - Jun 28, 2015 at 5:40 PM

      We are playing with our backs ups a lot too.

  41. Ghost of Steve M. - Jun 28, 2015 at 5:36 PM

    As BABIP works, the hardest hit ball of the inning lined right at Taylor in CF for the 3rd out.

    • manassasnatsfan - Jun 28, 2015 at 5:39 PM

      Let’s score 4 too. This pitcher is not as good as Tanner.

      • Ghost of Steve M. - Jun 28, 2015 at 5:40 PM

        If you don’t help this Phillies pitcher I think he will self-destruct. He has missed badly and will continue to if the Nats are patient.

      • veejh - Jun 28, 2015 at 5:41 PM

        So far, he’s been far superior.

  42. manassasnatsfan - Jun 28, 2015 at 5:41 PM

    Michael A don’t swing at off speed balls they are almost never in the zone.

  43. Ghost of Steve M. - Jun 28, 2015 at 5:42 PM

    Gonzalez might not have thrown 1 in the zone to Michael Taylor on that K.

    • manassasnatsfan - Jun 28, 2015 at 5:45 PM

      Majority of his pitches are in not in the zone. We are showing absolutely no plate discipline. Batting like they need to get to a fire.

      • Ghost of Steve M. - Jun 28, 2015 at 5:46 PM

        Agreed. Very disappointing by almost every hitter except Escobar.

  44. manassasnatsfan - Jun 28, 2015 at 5:44 PM

    They are hitting weakly on his fast ball which has little movement. Makes no sense.

  45. Ghost of Steve M. - Jun 28, 2015 at 5:44 PM

    This doesn’t help. Not even close but according to the Nats Ump app it’s the 1st missed call of Game 2

  46. Danny - Jun 28, 2015 at 5:45 PM

    Amazes me how often Danny gets ahead in the count then blows it with a weak pop out or ground out

    • manassasnatsfan - Jun 28, 2015 at 5:46 PM

      Those should be blast every time.

  47. veejh - Jun 28, 2015 at 5:47 PM

    Leadoff walk. Awesome!

  48. manassasnatsfan - Jun 28, 2015 at 5:47 PM

    Come on Tanner straighten up.

    • manassasnatsfan - Jun 28, 2015 at 5:49 PM

      0-2 to a walk.

  49. Ghost of Steve M. - Jun 28, 2015 at 5:47 PM

    Roark with the #LoW. Nibbling like Gio. Come on Tanner, you’re better than this.

    • Ghost of Steve M. - Jun 28, 2015 at 5:49 PM

      Had Asche 0-2 in the count then throws 4 straight balls. Continues in poor execution and questionable pitch selection.

  50. veejh - Jun 28, 2015 at 5:50 PM

    Nice line from Taylor

    • Ghost of Steve M. - Jun 28, 2015 at 5:53 PM

      +1 ran to the spot and made it look easy. Off the bat, it looked like trouble.

  51. manassasnatsfan - Jun 28, 2015 at 5:50 PM

    Smart play by Espi.

  52. Ghost of Steve M. - Jun 28, 2015 at 5:51 PM

    Smart by Espi to just throw it to 2nd to get the 4-6-3 instead of trying to tag the runner.

  53. manassasnatsfan - Jun 28, 2015 at 5:54 PM

    Memo to batters swing at fast balls only. His breaking balls are not in the zone.

  54. Ghost of Steve M. - Jun 28, 2015 at 5:54 PM

    Time for Clint to pull one and worst case move Esco to 3rd.

    • Ghost of Steve M. - Jun 28, 2015 at 5:56 PM

      Gonzalez doesn’t want him to pull and CRob goes with the pitch and luckily Franco can’t get it. Goes as a RBI single!

      • manassasnatsfan - Jun 28, 2015 at 5:58 PM

        Ball hit by lefty down the left field line my mind automatically thinks double.

      • Ghost of Steve M. - Jun 28, 2015 at 5:59 PM

        You and everyone else. LOL

  55. veejh - Jun 28, 2015 at 5:55 PM

    Rally time!

  56. manassasnatsfan - Jun 28, 2015 at 5:55 PM

    Keep the doubles coming

  57. manassasnatsfan - Jun 28, 2015 at 5:56 PM

    Oh my I look up and CRob is on first. I guess he is slower than I remember

  58. Ghost of Steve M. - Jun 28, 2015 at 5:57 PM

    Desi has to tell himself to keep his head on the ball. Hard to watch him pull off some of these pitches.

    • Ghost of Steve M. - Jun 28, 2015 at 5:58 PM

      Wow, he didn’t miss that one. Absolutely crushed!!!!

  59. veejh - Jun 28, 2015 at 5:58 PM

    Dez! Dez! Dez!

  60. manassasnatsfan - Jun 28, 2015 at 5:58 PM

    Hanging slider you bang it.

    Made up for his error.

  61. stoatva - Jun 28, 2015 at 5:59 PM

    Good googly mooglies!

  62. Joe Seamhead - Jun 28, 2015 at 5:59 PM

    Good job by CRob. Better job by Desmond!

  63. manassasnatsfan - Jun 28, 2015 at 6:00 PM

    Loboton another hanging slider. Forgot to swing

  64. Ghost of Steve M. - Jun 28, 2015 at 6:00 PM

    The call by Dave Jaegler on the radio is classic. My radio is on delay and listening to FP/Carp and Jags/Charlie too.

    That was fun!!!!

    • manassasnatsfan - Jun 28, 2015 at 6:02 PM

      I will make sure to catch post game.

      • Ghost of Steve M. - Jun 28, 2015 at 6:03 PM

        Yah, fun to listen to Jags say “DEMOLISHED”

    • Joe Seamhead - Jun 28, 2015 at 6:03 PM

      Ian’s head was looking right down at the bat meeting the ball. It was a BP pitch though. Low, but pretty flat.

      • Ghost of Steve M. - Jun 28, 2015 at 6:04 PM

        Sure was. It wasn’t on the 2nd strike. He has done a good job adjusting within at-bats.

  65. manassasnatsfan - Jun 28, 2015 at 6:01 PM

    I told you this guy is very hittable

  66. Ghost of Steve M. - Jun 28, 2015 at 6:01 PM

    BABIP turns well for the Nats when you consider CRob’s and Lobo’s hits.

  67. Ghost of Steve M. - Jun 28, 2015 at 6:02 PM

    TyMo is due for a poke.

  68. stoatva - Jun 28, 2015 at 6:02 PM

    Gonna need a shut down in bottom of the inning. Hope Tanner’s got his head on straight.

    • veejh - Jun 28, 2015 at 6:04 PM

      The way the last inning ended, he may have found the zone.

  69. manassasnatsfan - Jun 28, 2015 at 6:03 PM

    TyMo high fast ball drive it or lay off but don’t decide late to swing.

  70. manassasnatsfan - Jun 28, 2015 at 6:04 PM

    Another hanger not clobbered.

  71. manassasnatsfan - Jun 28, 2015 at 6:05 PM

    DenDekker needed to go to left it was on the outside portion.

    • Ghost of Steve M. - Jun 28, 2015 at 6:06 PM

      I have no problem with that. Just went to the deepest part of the park.

      • manassasnatsfan - Jun 28, 2015 at 6:11 PM

        Not to bad but when on the outside you will hit it harder away.

      • Ghost of Steve M. - Jun 28, 2015 at 6:12 PM

        I couldn’t tell how far out that was. He didn’t try to pull it.

  72. manassasnatsfan - Jun 28, 2015 at 6:07 PM

    Now shut them down, and score next inning.

  73. Ghost of Steve M. - Jun 28, 2015 at 6:07 PM

    Gonzalez isn’t long for this game. He is already in the mid-80’s for pitch count to end the 4th.

    • stoatva - Jun 28, 2015 at 6:09 PM

      That makes me sad. I wish he’d stick around.

  74. manassasnatsfan - Jun 28, 2015 at 6:10 PM

    Roark can’t pitch to the pitcher it seems

  75. Ghost of Steve M. - Jun 28, 2015 at 6:12 PM

    Let’s go Roark. Be the Ace. Erase the first 3 innings from your mind.

    • Ghost of Steve M. - Jun 28, 2015 at 6:13 PM

      Awful on another 2 strike pitch. 2nd and 1st and no outs.

  76. manassasnatsfan - Jun 28, 2015 at 6:12 PM

    Come on Tanner 2 strikes put them away. We need a shut down inning badly.

  77. manassasnatsfan - Jun 28, 2015 at 6:14 PM

    Out by 3 frames

  78. veejh - Jun 28, 2015 at 6:15 PM

    Hanger from Roark there and CRob read that like dookie

  79. manassasnatsfan - Jun 28, 2015 at 6:15 PM

    Robinson has no wheels.

    I hate infield in by the way.

    • Ghost of Steve M. - Jun 28, 2015 at 6:16 PM

      Look where he is playing. He would need a dragster to beat that.

      • manassasnatsfan - Jun 28, 2015 at 6:18 PM

        Because he has no wheels he plays way to deep.

      • Ghost of Steve M. - Jun 28, 2015 at 6:20 PM

        Yes, but that’s RZim at 3rd base all over again that when you make positional adjustments for fielders, this is what happens.

  80. Ghost of Steve M. - Jun 28, 2015 at 6:15 PM

    Clint Robinson is playing no-doubles out there. If a guy like him can’t field his position, he shouldn’t be playing out there.

  81. stoatva - Jun 28, 2015 at 6:16 PM

    Twenty-five hopper to center scores two.

  82. manassasnatsfan - Jun 28, 2015 at 6:16 PM

    Robinson’s inability to play has cost us 3 runs this series. Taylor catches this and Friday night fly.

    • Ghost of Steve M. - Jun 28, 2015 at 6:17 PM

      Just can’t play him out there. His offense isn’t good enough to pick up his poor defense.

      • stoatva - Jun 28, 2015 at 6:18 PM

        Adam Dunn-like speed.

        Okay, that’s harsh.

      • manassasnatsfan - Jun 28, 2015 at 6:19 PM

        Unlike Michael Morse whose offense made up for his defense.

      • Ghost of Steve M. - Jun 28, 2015 at 6:27 PM

        Exactly and even Willingham.

      • Joe Seamhead - Jun 28, 2015 at 6:35 PM

        I have never liked “hiding” mediocre infielders in the outfield. From Kobernus, to Lombardozzi, to Moore, to Robinson, etc. Every one of them were bad fundamentally. It makes for bad baseball, which amounts to lost baseball games. And yes, Moore looks less uncomfortable out there, but he’s now in his fourth year of doing it, with a couple hundred games at it between MiLB, ST, and MLB. He might be about as good as Willingham now, imho. I like him and CRobb much better at 1B, but neither of them will ever be all stars at first either.

      • Ghost of Steve M. - Jun 28, 2015 at 6:37 PM

        All true except Kobernus as he needed a move as he wasn’t much of an infielder and it really just showed he wasn’t much of a MLB talent.

        Michael Taylor was a shortstop, Jayson Werth and Bryce Harper were both catchers.

        It’s crap in, is crap out.

      • Joe Seamhead - Jun 28, 2015 at 6:55 PM

        Sure, Ghost, as was Mickey Mantle and Tom Tresh, and a hundred since them.. But most of them switched to and learned to play the OF in the minors with pro coaches teaching them, not in MLB in the middle of the season.Heck, in those great Yankee years Yogi and Elston Howard both played in the outfield when they weren’t catching. Wow, when was the last time you saw a ML catcher playing the OF. But a huge difference today is that baseball players are slotted into a position before they get out of HS, and by the time they get past Low A they are specialized. And again there are exceptions, like Zobrist, but that’s what they are, exceptions.

      • Ghost of Steve M. - Jun 28, 2015 at 6:58 PM

        You use examples that support your on-going theory that infielders don’t make good outfielders and it goes back to quality in, quality out. CRob is awful. I’d rather have den Dekker if you are short a LF

      • Joe Seamhead - Jun 28, 2015 at 7:12 PM

        Well, we’re pretty much on the same page, Steve.If you start with a bucket of manure, paint it up real pretty,no matter how hard you work at it, you still have a bucket of crap.
        I just don’t like to assume that anybody can play a quality outfield. Or even a passable one, without a ton of reps.

      • Ghost of Steve M. - Jun 28, 2015 at 7:24 PM

        Yes, agreed. You’ve mentioned all manure. Taylor has been a work in progress.

        Clint Robinson just isn’t good defensively anywhere. Passable at 1st.

        I think it’s an issue going forward as he’s been great exposed.

    • veejh - Jun 28, 2015 at 6:18 PM

      He backs up a backup. What do you expect? As long as we win, I’m ok with the crap defensive outfield here and there.

      • Joe Seamhead - Jun 28, 2015 at 6:41 PM

        You wouldn’t feel ok with crappy outfielders if you were a pitcher. It makes for more pitches being thrown and higher ERA’s. I’d rather have denDekker as the 4th outfielder while Werth is out. At least he IS an outfielder. Harper hobbled is creating a whole new problem.

  83. scnatsfan - Jun 28, 2015 at 6:17 PM

    Never seen so many poorly hit balls find holes

  84. stoatva - Jun 28, 2015 at 6:20 PM

    Okay, you guys want to rumble, eh?

    • manassasnatsfan - Jun 28, 2015 at 6:24 PM

      We have to score more runs. Tanner forgot to read the starter’s new memo.

  85. veejh - Jun 28, 2015 at 6:20 PM

    Dayum, last inning offensive push just erased. Roark with some seriously bad BABIP this game. Wowsers.

  86. manassasnatsfan - Jun 28, 2015 at 6:21 PM

    Tanner has been pathetic today.

    We scored 3 to get right back in and Tanner doesn’t do the job.

    Greats up the streak if great starts so I guess we need to start a new one Tuesday.

    I guess Jordan couldn’t have been any wosse.

  87. Ghost of Steve M. - Jun 28, 2015 at 6:22 PM

    Roark, just miserable today even though he was BABIP’d he also was not hitting his spots and poor pitches much of the day. He didn’t make his own luck twice facing the pitcher.

  88. stoatva - Jun 28, 2015 at 6:23 PM

    Okay, seven runs isn’t gonna win this one.

    • manassasnatsfan - Jun 28, 2015 at 6:25 PM

      Well we know 2 dudn’t

    • veejh - Jun 28, 2015 at 6:25 PM

      Two times a charm?

  89. Nats All Folks - Jun 28, 2015 at 6:23 PM

    Um, I know that some of these hits have been seeing-eye groundballs, but does anyone think, just a little bit, that Matt left Tanner in too long?

    • Ghost of Steve M. - Jun 28, 2015 at 6:25 PM

      Yes, much too long. He didn’t have it all day. Like I remarked in the 1st he was missing his spots.

    • stoatva - Jun 28, 2015 at 6:26 PM

      Series win already in hand, winning this one isn’t exactly screamingly urgent. And we are far from out of it.

      Unless Ruiz launches one here.

      • Nats All Folks - Jun 28, 2015 at 6:31 PM

        I know it’s just one game, and the series is already one, etc., but sometimes that lack of urgency seems to give the wrong message when you’re asking your players to bear down and concentrate on every at-bat, run out every ground ball, etc. Your players go out and score 3 to get back in it,and you sit on your hands with Roark because it’s not all that urgent? I don’t know …

      • stoatva - Jun 28, 2015 at 6:33 PM

        How much earlier would you have pulled him out?

      • Nats All Folks - Jun 28, 2015 at 6:40 PM

        oops, won not “one”*
        Definitely not playing manager — that’s why I asked what everybody else thought — but his stuff didn’t look good from the start and it wasn’t getting better, so at my house we were hoping he’d do it after the Nats scored 3 and got us back in it. But that’s fan emotion talking. I guess it’s the whole “it’s not urgent” thing that bugs me. For sure managers have to look long term and protect the bullpen, but for fans that’s hard to take, especially when the players are manning up and trying to win the game and you get an awful feeling that the manager isn’t. Again, however, this is emotion talking and I certainly don’t know the deep strategy involved.

  90. Ghost of Steve M. - Jun 28, 2015 at 6:24 PM

    Hard to believe the only out recorded in the 4th was the Sac Bunt. I wish MW hooked him quicker.

    • manassasnatsfan - Jun 28, 2015 at 6:26 PM

      Needed to pull him after the third.

  91. Nats All Folks - Jun 28, 2015 at 6:25 PM

    After not having to use the bullpen much in the first game, and with an off day tomorrow, what was he waiting for?

    • Ghost of Steve M. - Jun 28, 2015 at 6:26 PM

      All wishful thinking I guess.

    • manassasnatsfan - Jun 28, 2015 at 6:27 PM

      Christmas?

  92. veejh - Jun 28, 2015 at 6:27 PM

    Quit nibbling. Go after his a**.

  93. rlndtln - Jun 28, 2015 at 6:28 PM

    best to thro in the white flag and save the bp

  94. rlndtln - Jun 28, 2015 at 6:28 PM

    best to thro in the white flag and save the bp

    • stoatva - Jun 28, 2015 at 6:31 PM

      Come on. Five more innings against this kid and the ragamuffin Phillies bullpen? This might be fun. Get some popcorn.

  95. stoatva - Jun 28, 2015 at 6:29 PM

    If we’d started Rivero yesterday the rains might have arrived in the first inning.

    Anyone else who’d have preferred to see Gio pitching this one?

  96. Ghost of Steve M. - Jun 28, 2015 at 6:29 PM

    If Roark says in the post-game that he felt great I will puke.

    • veejh - Jun 28, 2015 at 6:30 PM

      What if we end up winning and he says that? Still puke?

      • Ghost of Steve M. - Jun 28, 2015 at 6:35 PM

        I say that because Roark always seems to say in poor appearances that he “felt great” or “felt fine”. I don’t care how you felt. He was missing spots and poor choice of pitches in several at-bats. It all started with men on 3rd and 2nd and 1 out and the pitcher up.

  97. stoatva - Jun 28, 2015 at 6:29 PM

    Eight runs might win it.

    But not necessarily.

  98. veejh - Jun 28, 2015 at 6:32 PM

    Another solid line from MAT

  99. stoatva - Jun 28, 2015 at 6:34 PM

    Roark gets mostly dinks, bloops and dribblers and gives up seven runs. Rivero gets hammered and gets two outs.

    That’s baseball, dude. As someone once said.

  100. hummel26 - Jun 28, 2015 at 6:37 PM

    What are anybody’s thoughts on bringing up Ross today for this start instead of Roark? I thought there was some sort of option-free deal for doubleheaders, and clearly Ross is a better bet than Roark, but maybe that’s just for today.

    • stoatva - Jun 28, 2015 at 6:38 PM

      He pitched Friday. That settles that.

      • hummel26 - Jun 28, 2015 at 6:44 PM

        Didn’t know that. Thanks.

    • natslive - Jun 28, 2015 at 6:44 PM

      Think Ross pitched the other day so he was unavailable

    • manassasnatsfan - Jun 28, 2015 at 6:48 PM

      He pitched Thursday but way to soon to pitch again.

  101. manassasnatsfan - Jun 28, 2015 at 6:38 PM

    tanner 10 outs 12 hits. Puke sounds right.

    I was thinking in the 4th pinch hut for Tanner, but not enough to say it, but hind sight is perfect.

  102. stoatva - Jun 28, 2015 at 6:38 PM

    Roark got this assignment on real short notice. His performance upsets me less than watching our guys swing from the heels down by five.

  103. manassasnatsfan - Jun 28, 2015 at 6:39 PM

    This guy is so hittable, but we have no patients to hut him.

  104. Ghost of Steve M. - Jun 28, 2015 at 6:40 PM

    Gonzalez at 100 pitches.

  105. manassasnatsfan - Jun 28, 2015 at 6:40 PM

    Escobar almost hit in the hand again.

  106. manassasnatsfan - Jun 28, 2015 at 6:41 PM

    OK let’s score 2 after the error.

  107. Ghost of Steve M. - Jun 28, 2015 at 6:41 PM

    Get 2 runs here and the Nats are right back in this game.

  108. manassasnatsfan - Jun 28, 2015 at 6:43 PM

    Why swi g at the non fast balls they don’t end up in the zone and his fast ball is so hittable. Patience.

  109. manassasnatsfan - Jun 28, 2015 at 6:46 PM

    First k for the Nat pitcher.

  110. manassasnatsfan - Jun 28, 2015 at 6:49 PM

    Rivero not much better than Tanner.

    • Ghost of Steve M. - Jun 28, 2015 at 6:52 PM

      Zero earned runs is the difference vs 8.

      • veejh - Jun 28, 2015 at 6:53 PM

        Yeah, but he gave up some inherited runs. I count those. His job is to come in and stop that from happening.

      • manassasnatsfan - Jun 28, 2015 at 6:54 PM

        With a little better positioning Roark better too.

      • Ghost of Steve M. - Jun 28, 2015 at 6:56 PM

        That’s BABIP. It also worked for him on a few smoked balls to outfielders.

      • stoatva - Jun 28, 2015 at 6:57 PM

        Rivero has been making some serious contact with Phillies lumber.

  111. manassasnatsfan - Jun 28, 2015 at 6:52 PM

    Loboton a kttle casual going after that strikeout pitch. Might not got the guys but sure couldn’t the way he trotted to the ball.

  112. manassasnatsfan - Jun 28, 2015 at 6:53 PM

    Time for a serious rally.

  113. stoatva - Jun 28, 2015 at 6:53 PM

    This is why it was such a shame to waste Gio yesterday. Doesn’t mean we would have won, but having done so put everyone in a tougher spot.

    • manassasnatsfan - Jun 28, 2015 at 6:56 PM

      It would have been a brilliant move by MW. I never thought about it unrptil someone suggested it. Made sense.

      • stoatva - Jun 28, 2015 at 6:59 PM

        Perhaps there’s a reason he couldn’t have done it, but I haven’t heard it. Gio sounded really irked.

  114. ehay2k - Jun 28, 2015 at 6:54 PM

    Not exactly crisp play by either ballclub. Effect of back-to-back doubleheader on teams that are fielding lesser defensive players this game ?

  115. Ghost of Steve M. - Jun 28, 2015 at 6:55 PM

    You have to count backwards to June 18th to find 8 runs altogether given up by Nats starters in that span.

  116. manassasnatsfan - Jun 28, 2015 at 6:57 PM

    H swing at a tchoutside? We need baserunners

  117. veejh - Jun 28, 2015 at 6:58 PM

    Lobo sent that DEEP

  118. manassasnatsfan - Jun 28, 2015 at 6:58 PM

    To bad Desi wasn’t on first with a walk.

    Nice shot Loboton.

  119. ehay2k - Jun 28, 2015 at 6:59 PM

    A run is a run. Don’t remember Lobaton ever hitting upper deck HR before. Has he ever?

  120. stoatva - Jun 28, 2015 at 7:00 PM

    Here comes the Phillies gasoline brigade to put out the fire.

  121. veejh - Jun 28, 2015 at 7:01 PM

    Rally Time part 2!

  122. veejh - Jun 28, 2015 at 7:03 PM

    Dunno, think Moore should have been able to tag up there.

    • stoatva - Jun 28, 2015 at 7:05 PM

      Don’t make the third out at third. Especially down by four.

  123. stoatva - Jun 28, 2015 at 7:04 PM

    Look at the size of Difo’s legs. Holy smoke.

  124. Joe Seamhead - Jun 28, 2015 at 7:04 PM

    Moore doesn’t tag on that fly ball to CF by denDekker was bad fundamental baseball.You’d get benched on a good high school team for that.

    • veejh - Jun 28, 2015 at 7:07 PM

      Right. Carp even said Moore wasn’t able to get back in time to tag up, which basically means that he didn’t read that the ball was easily catchable and sit tight on 2nd.

    • manassasnatsfan - Jun 28, 2015 at 7:11 PM

      Might not get benched but the coach would make sure you understood that was a mistake.

  125. manassasnatsfan - Jun 28, 2015 at 7:06 PM

    Not sure if it was the camera angle, but it appeared not one of the ones Difo swung at was in the zone.

  126. ehay2k - Jun 28, 2015 at 7:06 PM

    Didn’t matter, but would have liked to see Moore tag and go to 3rd before Difo was up.

  127. Ghost of Steve M. - Jun 28, 2015 at 7:06 PM

    The 26th man swung at 3 pitches all out of the zone. Not a good at-bat by Difo.

    • stoatva - Jun 28, 2015 at 7:08 PM

      Very disappointing.

      • Ghost of Steve M. - Jun 28, 2015 at 7:09 PM

        Needed to bring in Moore. Oh well. Still 3 more innings to go.

    • ehay2k - Jun 28, 2015 at 7:11 PM

      Those pitches may have moved a lot more than what he was looking at yesterday.

  128. unkyd59 - Jun 28, 2015 at 7:09 PM

    Ok… A lot of y’all know a lot more than I… That wiiide stance of Difo’s looks really hard to stay balanced, to me… Have I missed a lot of good hitters doing that?

    • stoatva - Jun 28, 2015 at 7:12 PM

      It’s extreme. I don’t recall his having had that stance when he was up before. Seems like something I might have noticed, but could be wrong.

      • manassasnatsfan - Jun 28, 2015 at 7:17 PM

        I was thinking it would be hard to thrust your hips standing like that.

  129. veejh - Jun 28, 2015 at 7:10 PM

    This game still seems so winnable. Get it together boys.

    • Ghost of Steve M. - Jun 28, 2015 at 7:16 PM

      Agreed. +9

      • manassasnatsfan - Jun 28, 2015 at 7:20 PM

        They have been pitching poor enough to allow us to hang around. We just swung way to many balls to take advantage.

  130. Ghost of Steve M. - Jun 28, 2015 at 7:15 PM

    It all started with a pitcher not covering 1st.

  131. manassasnatsfan - Jun 28, 2015 at 7:15 PM

    MAT hustles a hit

  132. Ghost of Steve M. - Jun 28, 2015 at 7:19 PM

    I hope Araujo throws another wild pitch

  133. manassasnatsfan - Jun 28, 2015 at 7:21 PM

    Desi owes us a few wins from earlier time to start paying back.

  134. Joe Seamhead - Jun 28, 2015 at 7:23 PM

    That’s one reason why I would not have PH for CRob in the first game. He can hit AAA level LHP’s.

    • Ghost of Steve M. - Jun 28, 2015 at 7:26 PM

      Seemed to make sense to keep him fresh to play Game 2 to take some time off his legs.

  135. Ghost of Steve M. - Jun 28, 2015 at 7:26 PM

    They are giving CRob 2nd base for the taking.

  136. Ghost of Steve M. - Jun 28, 2015 at 7:27 PM

    If Lobaton hits a 3 run HR here, this is Atlanta all over again!

    • Ghost of Steve M. - Jun 28, 2015 at 7:28 PM

      A double brings home 2. Just a nice poke Jose.

  137. ehay2k - Jun 28, 2015 at 7:27 PM

    A Desmond walk. An omen?

  138. manassasnatsfan - Jun 28, 2015 at 7:27 PM

    Jose is due a homer hasn’t had one in at least 30 minutes

    • manassasnatsfan - Jun 28, 2015 at 7:30 PM

      Jose not up to the task at hand, this time.

  139. Joe Seamhead - Jun 28, 2015 at 7:27 PM

    Anybody remember a certain poster arguing that the Nats didn’t get the better of the CF’s from the Twins when they got Span? He felt they’d have been better off with Revere.

    • Ghost of Steve M. - Jun 28, 2015 at 7:29 PM

      All depends on which year you’re looking at for context. Now looking at the whole picture, I’m sure even that poster wouldn’t say the same.

  140. ehay2k - Jun 28, 2015 at 7:28 PM

    Hit the mascot.

  141. stoatva - Jun 28, 2015 at 7:30 PM

    Chipping away.

  142. Ghost of Steve M. - Jun 28, 2015 at 7:31 PM

    That stinks. His HR was great, but this was a bigger spot to keep the inning go where a hit brings in that same run as a solo HR and keeps the pressure on.

    • manassasnatsfan - Jun 28, 2015 at 7:34 PM

      Get him them in the 8th.

  143. manassasnatsfan - Jun 28, 2015 at 7:33 PM

    We can still win this.

    Tanner forgot to read the next starter’s oath that Joe Ross started. 8 solid starts. We won them all.

    That is the key. Starters need to do their thing.

    • Ghost of Steve M. - Jun 28, 2015 at 7:36 PM

      Agreed. It’s been June 18th since Fister fell apart late that the Nats had a bad start. This wasn’t good almost from the start.

      • manassasnatsfan - Jun 28, 2015 at 7:41 PM

        During the 8 game winning streak. Starters only gave up 6. Roark 8

      • Ghost of Steve M. - Jun 28, 2015 at 7:43 PM

        Didn’t even think it was that many.

      • manassasnatsfan - Jun 28, 2015 at 7:42 PM

        My mistake 5 in the 8 games

      • Ghost of Steve M. - Jun 28, 2015 at 7:45 PM

        Yes, 2+2+1.

  144. manassasnatsfan - Jun 28, 2015 at 7:36 PM

    Trainan pitched well. Let’s get him a win.

  145. stoatva - Jun 28, 2015 at 7:37 PM

    Tell you what. I guarantee you Phillies fans are sitting there going: “How you think we’ll lose this one?”

    • manassasnatsfan - Jun 28, 2015 at 7:45 PM

      Just like I am thinking we can still win.

  146. Ghost of Steve M. - Jun 28, 2015 at 7:39 PM

    I sure like the fight in this Nats team.

  147. Ghost of Steve M. - Jun 28, 2015 at 7:40 PM

    This change TyMo’s entire at-bat.

    • manassasnatsfan - Jun 28, 2015 at 7:44 PM

      What is just alarming 24% are called the same. Meaning umps accuracy on that pitch is 76% accurate. That is terrible.

      • Ghost of Steve M. - Jun 28, 2015 at 7:47 PM

        Not sure what that means.

      • manassasnatsfan - Jun 28, 2015 at 7:50 PM

        In reading the chart it says 24% called the same. Since it was called wrong to me that is a terrible job of umping.

    • manassasnatsfan - Jun 28, 2015 at 7:49 PM

      Umping home must be a lot harder than it looks because I believe they miss 5-10 a game. The play is no further than 3 feet in front of you seems like it wouldn’t be so hard.

      • Ghost of Steve M. - Jun 28, 2015 at 7:54 PM

        200+ pitches I think that’s about average. That Nats Ump app is more forgiving than the true zone.

      • manassasnatsfan - Jun 28, 2015 at 7:56 PM

        I expect much more than that, the plate doesn’t move. You just look its in or out. Simply call it.

  148. nattygoats - Jun 28, 2015 at 7:49 PM

    The Nats have been playing great. Half a lineup and still won 8 straight. It’s a bloody shame Roark gave us no shot today. He was awful

    • manassasnatsfan - Jun 28, 2015 at 7:52 PM

      Where have you been during the 8 wins?

      Welcome back .

    • Ghost of Steve M. - Jun 28, 2015 at 7:52 PM

      +8

  149. Ghost of Steve M. - Jun 28, 2015 at 7:52 PM

    The relievers today for the Nats all put up Zeros.

    • manassasnatsfan - Jun 28, 2015 at 7:53 PM

      Well MW didn’t pinch hit for Roark in the top of 4th

  150. manassasnatsfan - Jun 28, 2015 at 7:55 PM

    I am expecting JZim to start the scoreless streak again.

  151. stoatva - Jun 28, 2015 at 7:55 PM

    Look who wants to make nice.

    • Ghost of Steve M. - Jun 28, 2015 at 7:57 PM

      The LoD all seemed to disappear during the winning streak. Not a surprise. They need misery.

      • manassasnatsfan - Jun 28, 2015 at 7:59 PM

        Why be miserable?

      • Ghost of Steve M. - Jun 28, 2015 at 8:07 PM

        I wish I knew. This isn’t 2008.

  152. manassasnatsfan - Jun 28, 2015 at 7:58 PM

    Palpibon not blowing anyone away anymore we should clobber him.

  153. manassasnatsfan - Jun 28, 2015 at 8:02 PM

    Nats had plenty of runners. Only 10 hits. Tanner gave up 12 in only 3.1 inning.

    Obviously didn’t have his stuff. Too bad only needed some if his stuff.

  154. natslive - Jun 28, 2015 at 8:04 PM

    Oh well…can’t win them all….let’s start another streak on Tues

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