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Game 52: Blue Jays at Nats

Jun 2, 2015, 6:52 PM EDT

Mark Zuckerman / NATS INSIDER

And we’re back for the nightcap of this day-night doubleheader. There’s still more rain in the forecast, but it’s not as ominous as it looked earlier.

Max Scherzer faces one-time National Marco Estrada (anyone remember him?) in a matchup of right-handers. You’ll notice Denard Span is again out of the Nats lineup. He was supposed to test out his knee in between games to see if he was ready to play. Apparently, he wasn’t. Matt den Dekker is here now, called up as the 26th man for the game, giving the team another healthy outfielder if needed.

Ryan Zimmerman, meanwhile, gets the night off. That’s the first time he hasn’t been in the lineup this season, leaving Ian Desmond as the only member of the team who has started all 52 games.

Updates to come…

TORONTO BLUE JAYS at WASHINGTON NATIONALS
Where:
 Nationals Park
Gametime: 7:05 p.m. EDT
TV: MASN, MLB.tv
Radio: 106.7 FM, 1500 AM, XM 183
Weather: Chance of rain, 65 degrees, Wind 9 mph in from CF

NATIONALS (29-22)
3B Yunel Escobar
SS Ian Desmond
RF Bryce Harper
1B Tyler Moore
LF Clint Robinson
2B Danny Espinosa
C Jose Lobaton
CF Michael Taylor
RHP Max Scherzer

BLUE JAYS (23-30)
SS Jose Reyes
3B Josh Donaldson
RF Jose Bautista
C Russell Martin
1B Chris Colabello
LF Danny Valencia
2B Munenori Kawasaki
CF Kevin Pillar
RHP Marco Estrada

UMPIRES
HP Brian Knight
1B Vic Carapazza
2B Larry Vanover (cc)
3B Sean Barber

7:05 p.m. — And we’re underway for the second time today. Max Scherzer strikes out Jose Reyes to get this one started in fine fashion.

7:27 p.m. — A scoreless first inning is in the books. Scherzer found himself in a jam when he walked Josh Donaldson and when Yunel Escobar threw wildly to first base on Russell Martin’s grounder. That was only Escobar’s second error this season. Scherzer, though, took matters into his own hands and struck out Chris Colabello to end the inning. Bryce Harper singled off Marco Estrada in the bottom of the frame, but that’s all the Nats put together.

7:43 p.m. — The Blue Jays have a bunch of mashers in their lineup, but who would’ve guessed the guy who would first take Scherzer deep would be Kevin Pillar? Yep, the No. 8 hitter tagged a 3-2 fastball over the left-field fence, giving Toronto a 1-0 lead. The Nats looked like they might get at least one run back in the bottom of the inning, but the cold air kept Danny Espinosa and Jose Lobaton’s well-struck drives to center and right-center fields in the park.

7:57 p.m. — Want to know what I love about baseball? This scene that just played out in the bottom of the third. Scherzer, at the plate, fouled off four straight 2-2 pitches, the crowd getting into it after each one. Then after taking ball three to load the count, he nearly sent a base hit to right field, only to be robbed by Muneori Kawasaki, who ranged way to his left to make the play and throw to first just in time to get the hustling Scherzer. It goes in the books as a 4-3 groundball, but it earned Scherzer a standing ovation from the crowd here. Love it. Still 1-0 Blue Jays after three.

8:18 p.m. — Tough night to hit here at the park, with a chill in the air and the wind blowing in. Harper found that out in the bottom of the fourth when he roped a ball to deep right field but watched as it clipped the top of the fence and bounced back into play. What could’ve been Bryce’s 19th homer instead was his 10th double. No matter, though, because Moore (given a chance to hit cleanup tonight) delivered an RBI double moments later, then scored on Jose Lobaton’s 2-out single to right. Nice inning for the backups, and because of it, the Nats have taken a 2-1 lead after four.

8:42 p.m. — Make it 3-1 after five thanks to a manufactured rally that began with Scherzer getting his base hit (his sixth of the season in 27 at-bats), included Harper reaching first when Estrada flat-out dropped a throw from his teammate and then was capped by Moore’s sac fly to right for his second RBI in as many innings.

Chase taking over while Mark works on his postgame story

9:12 p.m. — The Blue Jays bounced back in the sixth inning to take a 4-3 over the Nats thanks to Pillar’s second homer of the night. Valencia began the rally with a two-out double before Justin Smoak pinch-hit with a walk. Pillar followed with a bomb to left field to give the Blue Jays back the lead. The Nats then saw two quick outs in the bottom half of the inning before Taylor doubled to right-center. Dan Uggla lined out to left field to end the frame while pinch-hitting for Scherzer. Scherzer’s night is done after six innings, as Blake Treinen will now take over.

9:39 p.m. — The Blue Jays added three more runs to make it 7-3 in the top of the seventh. Treinen quickly ran into trouble by allowing back-to-back singles to Reyes and Donaldson. Colabello then singled home a run two batters later and Valencia followed with a sac fly to center. The Blue Jays got the third run on a double-steal with two outs that saw Lobaton sail a throw attempt to second base as Martin then came home to score. Felipe Rivero took over before the double-steal and will continue to pitch in the top of the eighth.

9:56 p.m. — Not much to report on in the eighth inning, as neither team scored. Casey Janssen will now pitch the ninth against the team he spent the first eight seasons of his MLB career with.

10:06 p.m. — Janssen allowed a leadoff single but got Martin to strike out and Colabello to ground into a double play. The Nats trail 7-3 as Lobaton, Taylor and a pinch-hitter will try to save this one in the bottom of the ninth.

10:12 p.m. — Nats lose 7-3 in the second game of today’s doubleheader. They have lost 5 of their last 7.

191 Comments (Feed for Comments)
  1. unterp - Jun 2, 2015 at 6:53 PM

    let’s go Nats…

  2. Mrsb loves the Nats - Jun 2, 2015 at 6:54 PM

    Estrada…. nope, can’t say I remember him….

    This line up will score 6….

    Go nats!?!?!?!?!?

    • natsfan1a - Jun 2, 2015 at 7:22 PM

      I do remember him.

      Go, Max! Go, NATS!

  3. Ghost of Steve M. - Jun 2, 2015 at 7:07 PM

    Scherzer just started off this game like JZim did with him—a K of Jose Reyes.

  4. Mrsb loves the Nats - Jun 2, 2015 at 7:16 PM

    Yikes Escobar…. doesn’t help MS pitch count at all…

  5. Ghost of Steve M. - Jun 2, 2015 at 7:17 PM

    Just one of those non-aggressive errors. Come on Esco. You just got Scherzer’s pitch count above 25

    • manassasnatsfan - Jun 2, 2015 at 7:19 PM

      Max bails him out.

      Max hurt his own pitch count too. Now settle down with some quick innings.

      • Ghost of Steve M. - Jun 2, 2015 at 8:44 PM

        LOL, very much like a receiver coming over the middle and alligator arms a throw hearing footsteps.

    • Joe Seamhead - Jun 2, 2015 at 7:20 PM

      Even though it was a throwing error, I thought it was a lack of hustle.

      • Ghost of Steve M. - Jun 2, 2015 at 7:22 PM

        How do you mean a lack of hustle?

      • Joe Seamhead - Jun 2, 2015 at 7:25 PM

        He seemed to just lob the ball with a lack of conviction. He had plenty of time to make a routine throw.

      • natsdial8 - Jun 2, 2015 at 7:31 PM

        He got a bit lazy and misfired. No biggie just don’t make it a
        habit 🙂

      • Ghost of Steve M. - Jun 2, 2015 at 8:43 PM

        My buddy made a good observation. Said Estrada was hearing footsteps and didn’t want to get rolled over.

  6. rlndtln - Jun 2, 2015 at 7:20 PM

    I can not understand how Rendon will not come back at 3base.Heis 3 times the fielder at 3rd than Esco.

    • natsdial8 - Jun 2, 2015 at 7:26 PM

      Intetesting decision for Matt with Espi playing well. Anthony , Yunel and Danny all starter quality at this point .

  7. natsdial8 - Jun 2, 2015 at 7:23 PM

    Max bears down & picks up his 3rd baseman.

  8. Hiram Hover - Jun 2, 2015 at 7:24 PM

    Well, you can’t say Desi was swinging too much that time.

    • Eric - Jun 2, 2015 at 7:26 PM

      Zing!

      • rlndtln - Jun 2, 2015 at 7:34 PM

        Need to score runs against Toronto

  9. Eric - Jun 2, 2015 at 7:30 PM

    Good job staying with it, MAT.

  10. Hiram Hover - Jun 2, 2015 at 7:32 PM

    In that shot of the dug out, Denard looked like he was modeling for his own garden gnome.

  11. manassasnatsfan - Jun 2, 2015 at 7:34 PM

    I am just following on my at batbapp. Was the pitch pillar hit a good pitch with a better at bat or was it thecrare meatball from Scherzer?

    • Eric - Jun 2, 2015 at 7:39 PM

      It appeared to be inside (maybe even a ball) and fairly low. Pretty impressive that he hit it out, imo.

      • manassasnatsfan - Jun 2, 2015 at 7:44 PM

        Thanks.

        I believe the homer Stanton hit was Scherzer’s only meatball.

        Pretty impressive.

  12. Mrsb loves the Nats - Jun 2, 2015 at 7:34 PM

    Idk how Pillar hit that out in the stands…

  13. Mrsb loves the Nats - Jun 2, 2015 at 7:39 PM

    Carpenter: ‘This ball is going nowhere tonight!’

    ‘Mine did’ — Pillar

    • rlndtln - Jun 2, 2015 at 7:43 PM

      You can not have a guy playing when you are shorthanded that strikes out 3 times a game.He needs to br playing everyday in the minors.

      • Mrsb loves the Nats - Jun 2, 2015 at 7:49 PM

        I don’t think the minors will help him… he needs to see pro pitching… and get at bats….

      • adcwonk - Jun 2, 2015 at 8:29 PM

        Are you referring to MAT who got 5 rbi in the last two games vs Reds?

  14. Eric - Jun 2, 2015 at 7:43 PM

    Nice take on ball 3 by MAT. Too bad he swung at it the second time for strike 3.

  15. Mrsb loves the Nats - Jun 2, 2015 at 7:54 PM

    Tip of the cap to Kawasaki…. robbed MS..

    • rlndtln - Jun 2, 2015 at 7:59 PM

      This guy stinks for Toronto and we can not come close to scoring.MW must get as many left handed bats in line up against righty pitching.MAT must go.

      • Joe Seamhead - Jun 2, 2015 at 8:13 PM

        He has Harper, Robinson, Espinosa in. Span is hurt. What other LH batter do you want him to play?

  16. Joe Seamhead - Jun 2, 2015 at 8:02 PM

    Nice play by Moore!

  17. Ghost of Steve M. - Jun 2, 2015 at 8:10 PM

    Look at TyMo!!! RISP hit!!!!

  18. Joe Seamhead - Jun 2, 2015 at 8:10 PM

    Nice hit by Moore!

  19. Ghost of Steve M. - Jun 2, 2015 at 8:11 PM

    AWFUL approach by Clint Robinson. You are a lefty. You have to pull it. Come on man!

  20. Ghost of Steve M. - Jun 2, 2015 at 8:12 PM

    Espi gets 2nd life. That’s another poor job stepping into the batters box. Come on guys. Attack!!!!

  21. Ghost of Steve M. - Jun 2, 2015 at 8:14 PM

    Jose Lobaton picks up Clint Robinson.

  22. Joe Seamhead - Jun 2, 2015 at 8:14 PM

    Jose!!!

  23. manassasnatsfan - Jun 2, 2015 at 8:18 PM

    MAT needs to watch the location of the pitches better. When he makes contact he hits well. Just K too much.

  24. rlndtln - Jun 2, 2015 at 8:18 PM

    I can not watch MAT hit.

  25. natslive - Jun 2, 2015 at 8:23 PM

    So anyone else see the guy behind home in the Os shirt – must have taken a wrong turn

  26. natslive - Jun 2, 2015 at 8:24 PM

    Way to go Max – on a roll after that rocky first inning

  27. scnatsfan - Jun 2, 2015 at 8:26 PM

    Can you imagine facing JZim in the afternoon and Max at night? Go to the team hotel and hit the minibar after the game.

    • Ghost of Steve M. - Jun 2, 2015 at 8:28 PM

      They asked MW about just that in the postgame presser after Game 1 if he had ever had to face a duo like JZim and Scherzer in a doubleheader.

      It was a great opp for MW to say “NEVER” but instead he pondered about that he probably faced Maddux and Glavine in a doubleheader.

      Wouldn’t have been tough for MW to have fun with that, oh well.

  28. Ghost of Steve M. - Jun 2, 2015 at 8:26 PM

    The scouting report on Estrada is that to a RH with 2 strikes in a count (except 3-2) you will rarely see a curveball 11% a changeup at 37% and a 4-seamer at 51%.

    Taylor was in a 1-2. Think. It will probably be a fastball but hands back for the changeup. Estrada threw him a dead red changeup and MAT opened up and swung for 500.

    I hope he gets another chance at Estrada because that is 2 K’s and both on the changeup.

  29. natslive - Jun 2, 2015 at 8:28 PM

    Think Max likes this hitting thing

  30. Ghost of Steve M. - Jun 2, 2015 at 8:30 PM

    This is the same scenario as Game 1.

    • Ghost of Steve M. - Jun 2, 2015 at 8:30 PM

      Pitcher on 2nd and Esco on 1st with Desi in the batter’s box.

  31. Eugene in Oregon - Jun 2, 2015 at 8:33 PM

    I’m thinking Max Scherzer wants a Silver Slugger to go along with the Cy Young.

  32. rlndtln - Jun 2, 2015 at 8:34 PM

    Desi sucks with men on base.

    • Eugene in Oregon - Jun 2, 2015 at 8:37 PM

      Career with men on base: .274/.320/.410.

    • Ghost of Steve M. - Jun 2, 2015 at 8:38 PM

      He sure does this season. Probably below .150 with RISP now.

  33. Ghost of Steve M. - Jun 2, 2015 at 8:36 PM

    That’s why you have to hustle and not jog Bryce.

    • Joe Seamhead - Jun 2, 2015 at 8:40 PM

      I didn’t see it. Was he dogging it?

      • Ghost of Steve M. - Jun 2, 2015 at 8:42 PM

        I only saw his last 20 feet. Yah. Luckily Estrada didn’t know it.

      • natsdial8 - Jun 2, 2015 at 8:47 PM

        Good eye Ghost I didn’t see that but looking at replay 34 was definately not flying toward first .

      • natslive - Jun 2, 2015 at 8:53 PM

        Barely ran at the beginning

  34. Ghost of Steve M. - Jun 2, 2015 at 8:39 PM

    This is where the Nats have to capitalize on that error.

  35. Mrsb loves the Nats - Jun 2, 2015 at 8:42 PM

    Why did you swing CRob…. why…..

    • Ghost of Steve M. - Jun 2, 2015 at 8:47 PM

      Just batting .236 and no HRs. Remind you of another bench lefty in his 2nd year with the Nats?

  36. Ghost of Steve M. - Jun 2, 2015 at 8:49 PM

    Defensive positioning has been very good but also credit to Scherzer for executing. Bryce usually makes those plays.

  37. natsdial8 - Jun 2, 2015 at 8:50 PM

    Tough chance for 34 but should have made play. Long day for these guys.

    • Ghost of Steve M. - Jun 2, 2015 at 8:53 PM

      He would tell you himself that he should have caught it.

      • manassasnatsfan - Jun 2, 2015 at 9:00 PM

        Well he should of But Scherzer pulled a Strasburg and followed with 2 poor batters in a row.

      • Ghost of Steve M. - Jun 2, 2015 at 9:03 PM

        He’s thrown a lot of pitches. My guess is he’s tired.

    • Joe Seamhead - Jun 2, 2015 at 8:53 PM

      Cold damp conditions has made it even longer.

  38. natslive - Jun 2, 2015 at 8:55 PM

    Crap

  39. Ghost of Steve M. - Jun 2, 2015 at 8:56 PM

    I am in shock. Unreal. Pillar barely got that.

    • rlndtln - Jun 2, 2015 at 8:57 PM

      really surprised he went inside again where he hit the first one after Pillar chased strike one away.

      • Ghost of Steve M. - Jun 2, 2015 at 8:58 PM

        You are correct. Pillar even opened up to swat that out. Just surprised Lobaton would set up in there again. What were they thinking?

    • Joe Seamhead - Jun 2, 2015 at 8:58 PM

      Harp’s failure to catch the two out shot to right center cost Us big time there.

      • Ghost of Steve M. - Jun 2, 2015 at 9:02 PM

        Yep, and Esco’s error in the 1st also expended extra pitches.

        The little things.

      • Mrsb loves the Nats - Jun 2, 2015 at 9:04 PM

        Offense only scoring 1 with bases loaded and having the pitcher on the ropes is a bigger issue to me….

  40. natsdial8 - Jun 2, 2015 at 8:58 PM

    So why does Tyler hit better when playing first then he does when playing left .

    • Hiram Hover - Jun 2, 2015 at 9:07 PM

      Because he gets crazy lucky on balls in play–his BABIP as 1B is .396, vs .264 when playing LF, and .295 overall on his career.

      In other words, it’s a mirage–luck and random variation over small sample sizes.

      • natsdial8 - Jun 2, 2015 at 9:16 PM

        Good info but still interesting.

  41. Mrsb loves the Nats - Jun 2, 2015 at 8:58 PM

    Wish we would have scored more when we had bases loaded….

  42. manassasnatsfan - Jun 2, 2015 at 8:58 PM

    That was the second meatball of the season.

    First one was to Stanton. However one to a number 8 batter who already homered against you makes no sense.

    He could not bail out Bryce not catching the ball by following it with a nonsense walk then a hanging slider.

    That was his inner Strasburg.

    • Ghost of Steve M. - Jun 2, 2015 at 9:00 PM

      That was not a meatball. Pillar was looking for a spot where he could pull it and he got it.

      • manassasnatsfan - Jun 2, 2015 at 9:02 PM

        He was looking for hanging slider and got it. Needed a low outside fastball. He could never pull that.

        In my opinion or poor located pitch is a meatball.

      • Ghost of Steve M. - Jun 2, 2015 at 9:04 PM

        Yes, I think the slider didn’t do much.

  43. manassasnatsfan - Jun 2, 2015 at 9:04 PM

    Well when Taylor makes contact he is good.

  44. natslive - Jun 2, 2015 at 9:05 PM

    Why not Ryan here?

  45. Joe Seamhead - Jun 2, 2015 at 9:05 PM

    Uggla should be able to crush this guy, but he’s 1-11 career. Happy for Taylor.

  46. Mrsb loves the Nats - Jun 2, 2015 at 9:05 PM

    That looked like a breaking ball to MAT that he hit for a double.

  47. Ghost of Steve M. - Jun 2, 2015 at 9:05 PM

    FP talking about Span taking a full day off, did he forget that yesterday was a rainout and Span didn’t play. WHoops.

  48. Mrsb loves the Nats - Jun 2, 2015 at 9:06 PM

    What in the hell is this blue doing?

  49. Joe Seamhead - Jun 2, 2015 at 9:09 PM

    Bummer. Looked like a hit off Uggla’s bat.

    • AlexandriaNatFan - Jun 2, 2015 at 9:21 PM

      Sounded like one on the radio too, before it was caught of course. 🙂

  50. natslive - Jun 2, 2015 at 9:09 PM

    Uggla gave it a good try unfortunately didn’t fall in

    • rlndtln - Jun 2, 2015 at 9:11 PM

      We have them right where we want them,our bullpen is in

  51. Mrsb loves the Nats - Jun 2, 2015 at 9:12 PM

    Oh… Blake…

  52. Ghost of Steve M. - Jun 2, 2015 at 9:12 PM

    Espinosa dove over that Donaldson single. That was odd.

  53. manassasnatsfan - Jun 2, 2015 at 9:12 PM

    The Harper dropped going to his right was actually much easier to catch than one basically at you that you have to judge the depth. However they make the play and we don’t score. We don’t and they score three

  54. natslive - Jun 2, 2015 at 9:12 PM

    Come on Treinen

  55. Mrsb loves the Nats - Jun 2, 2015 at 9:14 PM

    Uhm…. blake….

  56. manassasnatsfan - Jun 2, 2015 at 9:14 PM

    Come on Trainan the bullpen outside of Thornton and Storen has imploded the last 5 games.

    Why? Just make pitches.

  57. scnatsfan - Jun 2, 2015 at 9:14 PM

    And here come the bullpen kids pouring gas on the fire again

    • natslive - Jun 2, 2015 at 9:16 PM

      When Treinen came in I said over or under 2 runs to hubby…..hope I am wrong…..oh good play there

  58. Joe Seamhead - Jun 2, 2015 at 9:14 PM

    Imagine that! First batter gets on against Treinen.
    Reyes seemed to take advantage of Taylor right there by going to 3rd.
    Blake Treinen is driving us all crazy

  59. manassasnatsfan - Jun 2, 2015 at 9:16 PM

    Trainan still shaky on throwing home, but that was better than Boston.

  60. Mrsb loves the Nats - Jun 2, 2015 at 9:16 PM

    Huge play…. come on BT… throw a sinker for a DP… DO IT.

    I’M ROOTING FOR YOU!?!?!?

  61. natslive - Jun 2, 2015 at 9:16 PM

    Ok now get out of this Blake

  62. Mrsb loves the Nats - Jun 2, 2015 at 9:17 PM

    Sigh….

    • Ghost of Steve M. - Jun 2, 2015 at 9:18 PM

      Playing to contact and this is what you get.. Get used to it.

  63. manassasnatsfan - Jun 2, 2015 at 9:18 PM

    Blue not calling strike one was that the reason to throw one at the waste?

    Come on Trainan you need to straighten up.

  64. Drew - Jun 2, 2015 at 9:18 PM

    Barrett and Treinen are automatic.

    Automatically awful.

    • rlndtln - Jun 2, 2015 at 9:19 PM

      How can you hope to win with this bullpen.

    • Ghost of Steve M. - Jun 2, 2015 at 9:19 PM

      He’s mostly a pitch to contact guy. Needs the balls to go his way. They do some games but not today.

    • scmargenau - Jun 2, 2015 at 9:21 PM

      Just awful

  65. natslive - Jun 2, 2015 at 9:19 PM

    I miss Craig

    • Eric - Jun 2, 2015 at 9:21 PM

      I was just thinking that.

    • AlexandriaNatFan - Jun 2, 2015 at 9:22 PM

      +1. I also love Craig. I never really worry when he comes in.

  66. Eric - Jun 2, 2015 at 9:21 PM

    Fudgsicles

  67. Mrsb loves the Nats - Jun 2, 2015 at 9:21 PM

    Fwiw, BT was decent his last couple of outtings… tonight, obciously, not so much…

    This bullpen is officially in need of dire help.

    • manassasnatsfan - Jun 2, 2015 at 9:31 PM

      Wrong. Last outing fine, 2 outings ago 2 hits and a rub in one inning. I would say that was not good.

  68. manassasnatsfan - Jun 2, 2015 at 9:22 PM

    JZim showed you how you can win with this bullpen.

    Go 8 and let Storen close.

    Works for me.

    • rlndtln - Jun 2, 2015 at 9:28 PM

      split with our best.Imagine 5 or 6 innings with the next 3 and then this bullpen.good luck.

  69. Ghost of Steve M. - Jun 2, 2015 at 9:24 PM

    Lobaton, did you just bite on that and throw that away.

  70. Mrsb loves the Nats - Jun 2, 2015 at 9:24 PM

    We got 3 more innings to score 5…. my fingers are crossed…

  71. Joe Seamhead - Jun 2, 2015 at 9:25 PM

    Dumb ass baseball being played now.Rivera was lucky on that foul ball.

  72. Karl Kolchak - Jun 2, 2015 at 9:26 PM

    The A’s are almost certainly going to be sellers this year…and we desperately need Tyler Clippard back. Just sayin’.

    • Joe Seamhead - Jun 2, 2015 at 9:34 PM

      If The A’s Billy Beane were to decide to trade Clipp he will want a prime prospect, a high price for a team to pay for a short time rental. Tyler will still be a free agent at the end of the season and he wants to not only test the market, but he also wants to be the closer for whatever team he signs with. Uh… There might be a conflict with regards to one Drew Storen, a closer under team control for a few more years at a fraction of Clipp’s asking price.
      Maybe it happens, but the price will be really painful.

    • David Proctor - Jun 2, 2015 at 9:36 PM

      Look beyond Clippard’s ERA. Walking over 5 per 9 innings, career low strikeout rate. There are better options.

      • Eugene in Oregon - Jun 2, 2015 at 9:42 PM

        +1

      • Karl Kolchak - Jun 2, 2015 at 9:43 PM

        Who exactly? Assuming the Reds fall far enough out of it by 7/31, Chapman is going to take just about every decent prospect the Nats have who isn’t named Giolito (that isn’t many, sadly).

      • Mrsb loves the Nats - Jun 2, 2015 at 9:44 PM

        Honestly I think people want him back more so for sentimental reasons… why people were so up in arms about his departure idk…

        I was and still am fine with the trade… wish Jansen isn’t a question mark as he was supposed to be the answer…

  73. Hiram Hover - Jun 2, 2015 at 9:28 PM

    That was painful.

  74. David Proctor - Jun 2, 2015 at 9:29 PM

    I’ll keep saying it, we need bullpen help. There is no internal answer. Matt had to leave Scherzer in because even if Scherzer was tiring, he trusts him more than the bullpen. And I don’t blame him, I do too. It’s not a good situation. Storen and Thornton are the only dependable guys in the bullpen. Even if you think it will be serviceable during the season, would anyone really feel comfortable with this bullpen competing against the other contenders in October?

    A one run game against the Jays bullpen is no big deal. Yet the bullpen poured gasoline on the fire yet again.

    • manassasnatsfan - Jun 2, 2015 at 9:35 PM

      Rizzo didn’t seem to care about the bullpen when he traded Clippard

      • David Proctor - Jun 2, 2015 at 9:37 PM

        That was a good trade then and it still is now. Escobar for 3 years is far more valuable than Clippard. Rizzo’s problem wasn’t trading Clippard, it was not adequately replacing him.

      • Karl Kolchak - Jun 2, 2015 at 9:38 PM

        Yep–the feeling seemed to be that the great rotation would go seven innings almost every night and make having a deep bullpen unnecessary. Oh well, best laid plans and all that.

      • manassasnatsfan - Jun 2, 2015 at 9:40 PM

        The trade was fair, but without replacing him was not a good trade for the bullpen.

      • Joe Seamhead - Jun 2, 2015 at 9:43 PM

        Come on MNF, he was counting on a guy named Craig Stammen, not to mention Tanner Roark to be bullpen anchors.
        Rizzo will pull off a trade.

      • Joe Seamhead - Jun 2, 2015 at 9:45 PM

        And don’t forget that Janssen was supposed to be the primary setup guy.

      • Mrsb loves the Nats - Jun 2, 2015 at 9:46 PM

        Think he was also counting on Jansen…

    • Karl Kolchak - Jun 2, 2015 at 9:37 PM

      Problem being that there are nearly two months until the trading deadline and the expanded WC means that nearly every team is wary of giving up on the season too early. The Nats need to add at least two quality veteran arms if they realistically hope to have a shot at making noise in the playoffs this year, but July 31st is a long ways away yet.

  75. Mrsb loves the Nats - Jun 2, 2015 at 9:33 PM

    It’s just nothing else to say about Desi…. need to get him out the 2 hole ASAP.

    • rlndtln - Jun 2, 2015 at 9:37 PM

      Desi is the dumbest hitter in the league.You can not have a 2 hole hitter who leads the league in SO.

      • manassasnatsfan - Jun 2, 2015 at 9:43 PM

        Actually Stanton has way more. However Desi is no Stanton.

      • Hiram Hover - Jun 2, 2015 at 9:45 PM

        Desi does not lead the league in Ks, in either his total or his %. And as a #2 hitter this year Desi is slashing: .304/.355/.482.

        Sorry to interrupt the rant. I know Desi inspires a lot of them. But the facts is what they is.

      • Mrsb loves the Nats - Jun 2, 2015 at 9:52 PM

        Small sample size much HH? How many times has Desi been in the 2 hole this season?

        Let’s not color these ‘facts’ and be selective…

        I ain’t hating on Desi at all.. will root for him as long as he is a National but these porous at bats are not to far in between…

      • Hiram Hover - Jun 2, 2015 at 10:00 PM

        He has 126 PA at #2, which is over half of his PA on the season.

        I agree he’s not an ideal #2 hitter, and we both know he’s there only because of injuries. But chalk it up to luck, SSS, whatever, his overall performance in that slot has been ok.

    • manassasnatsfan - Jun 2, 2015 at 9:37 PM

      Yet someone will pay him a lot despite the fact he will be past his prime.

      Next year he will be someone else’s problem.

      In the meantime he probably costing himself some money.

      • Karl Kolchak - Jun 2, 2015 at 9:40 PM

        Pretty much. He did the team a real favor by not taking the contract extension. As for him hitting 2nd, yeah it’s bad, but who out of those playing tonight would you replace him with?

  76. manassasnatsfan - Jun 2, 2015 at 9:38 PM

    Ghost they showed the Pillar homer again. You think that is not a meatball?

    • Ghost of Steve M. - Jun 2, 2015 at 9:45 PM

      I don’t but location was poor and it didn’t spin much.

      • manassasnatsfan - Jun 2, 2015 at 9:53 PM

        If that is not a meatball what is? Any sides that hangs in a hittable location to me is meatball.

      • Ghost of Steve M. - Jun 2, 2015 at 9:57 PM

        I will look after the game. It was in his hot zone so not a good pitch thrown or called for.

  77. natslive - Jun 2, 2015 at 9:42 PM

    Walked the pitcher….sheesh

  78. Mrsb loves the Nats - Jun 2, 2015 at 9:42 PM

    Anyone know who is pitching tomorrow?

    • Ghost of Steve M. - Jun 2, 2015 at 9:44 PM

      Taylor Jordan

      • Mrsb loves the Nats - Jun 2, 2015 at 9:45 PM

        Have my doubts on tomorrow…. but we will see…

        Thanks.

      • Ghost of Steve M. - Jun 2, 2015 at 9:46 PM

        I’m sure the Blue Jay fans felt the same about the night cap vs Scherzer.

      • Mrsb loves the Nats - Jun 2, 2015 at 9:47 PM

        Well Max wasn’t really the issue tonight…. BP blew up… once again…

        But again, we will see…

      • Ghost of Steve M. - Jun 2, 2015 at 9:50 PM

        4 runs by Max over 6 innings isn’t too good but the bullpen sealed the deal and the Lobaton throw down to 2nd base to allow the steal of home.

      • Hiram Hover - Jun 2, 2015 at 9:49 PM

        Well, Toronto took the lead off Max. BP was just trying to put the game totally out of reach.

      • Ghost of Steve M. - Jun 2, 2015 at 9:52 PM

        Sure seemed like it and with every extra run it’s like an extra nail in the coffin. That’s what’s upsetting. You let in a run, ok, keep it at 1, but nope. The steal of home was the most upsetting.

      • Mrsb loves the Nats - Jun 2, 2015 at 9:55 PM

        I’m still not over 1 run and bases loaded… but its just one of those games….

      • Ghost of Steve M. - Jun 2, 2015 at 9:58 PM

        Normally that would be enough as that gave the Nats a 3-1 lead but yes, I agree. Had a chance to blow it open there.

      • Mrsb loves the Nats - Jun 2, 2015 at 9:59 PM

        Just a culmination of messes…. think we can agree to that! 😆

  79. manassasnatsfan - Jun 2, 2015 at 9:43 PM

    Robinson?

  80. Ghost of Steve M. - Jun 2, 2015 at 9:44 PM

    Why didn’t Rivero pitch like that to the opposing pitcher?

    • manassasnatsfan - Jun 2, 2015 at 9:49 PM

      At least he did eventually.

  81. manassasnatsfan - Jun 2, 2015 at 9:47 PM

    When we score 3 runs and Scherzer is pitching, that needs to be a win.

    We are not used to him screwing up.

    So whoever is pitching tomorrow needs to make up for this and beat Burhle.

  82. manassasnatsfan - Jun 2, 2015 at 9:48 PM

    We gave up 6in the 8th last Sunday, so let score 6 tonight.

  83. manassasnatsfan - Jun 2, 2015 at 9:50 PM

    Despite the fact we have a winning record, I believe most of our opponents have more range than our fielders have most games.

    • Ghost of Steve M. - Jun 2, 2015 at 9:59 PM

      Not sure about range, it just seems they lead the Nats in Web Gems against.

      • manassasnatsfan - Jun 2, 2015 at 10:05 PM

        Maybe that is it.

        Notice Ray basically said Pillar’s second homer was a meatball.

  84. Mrsb loves the Nats - Jun 2, 2015 at 9:56 PM

    June 2nd… 57 degrees outside… YIKES

  85. Joe Seamhead - Jun 2, 2015 at 9:58 PM

    Speaking of Clipp, he’s pitching the bottom of the 9th with a 5-3 lead in Detroit.

    • Joe Seamhead - Jun 2, 2015 at 10:00 PM

      3 up 3 down, 2K’s for Clipp. A’s win 5-3

    • manassasnatsfan - Jun 2, 2015 at 10:01 PM

      3 up 3 down with 2 k. A save.

  86. manassasnatsfan - Jun 2, 2015 at 10:00 PM

    If we do lose this, the last 5 loses we would either be tied late (once) or leading in 4 of them late.

    Maybe Rafael Soriano can come be late inning guy. Can’t be worse than this past week.

    Only 2 relievers have been successful for the week; Thornton and Storen.

    • Joe Seamhead - Jun 2, 2015 at 10:02 PM

      I’d have no problem with giving Soriano a shot as a setup guy.

      • Ghost of Steve M. - Jun 2, 2015 at 10:04 PM

        The fact it hasn’t happened says something.

      • Mrsb loves the Nats - Jun 2, 2015 at 10:04 PM

        Good Lord… I dont know if this board can take it… post ASB when he ‘lost it’…. just not a good time…

      • Karl Kolchak - Jun 2, 2015 at 10:08 PM

        You guys do remember what happened late last season right? Soriano looked done then, and now he hasn’t pitched in nearly a year. We may be desperate, but I hope we’re not THAT desperate.

      • manassasnatsfan - Jun 2, 2015 at 10:09 PM

        Just like most our relievers now.

      • Joe Seamhead - Jun 2, 2015 at 10:10 PM

        Yeah, it does, Steve, but my guess is he thinks that he is still worth much more money. Than the market will pay.

    • AlexandriaNatFan - Jun 2, 2015 at 10:10 PM

      Good god no.

  87. Ghost of Steve M. - Jun 2, 2015 at 10:01 PM

    Phoolies just walked-off on Cingrani! Punk alert!

    • manassasnatsfan - Jun 2, 2015 at 10:03 PM

      Why couldn’t hit him. He has nothing.

      • Karl Kolchak - Jun 2, 2015 at 10:11 PM

        Because, lets face it, when Harper isn’t hitting home runs this offense is pretty mediocre. It was telling that despite how hittable Estrada looked, the Jays put him back out there in the 6th with a one run lead. That showed how little respect they have for any Nats hitter not named BH.

  88. Ghost of Steve M. - Jun 2, 2015 at 10:02 PM

    I hope the Nats have a 5 run inning in their back pocket! Bat around!

  89. manassasnatsfan - Jun 2, 2015 at 10:08 PM

    I was in Chicago as Scherzer looked great. He didn’t look like that tonight.

  90. AlexandriaNatFan - Jun 2, 2015 at 10:09 PM

    So I’ll be positive and call this now: that DP started by Espi will get us going again next game.

  91. Mrsb loves the Nats - Jun 2, 2015 at 10:10 PM

    Whelp…. hope the Nats win the rubber match up tomorrow…

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