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Game 50: Nats at Reds

May 31, 2015, 11:21 AM EST

With two straight losses highlighted by injuries and plenty of drama, the Nationals’ series at Cincinnati hasn’t exactly gone as planned this weekend. But on Sunday they have a chance to avoid the sweep and end their road trip on a high note before returning home for a seven-game homestand.

Tanner Roark (1-2, 2.49) will make his second start of the season as he continues to fill in for the injured Doug Fister. Roark was solid in his last start with one earned run on three hits and a walk in five innings against the Cubs.

Pitching for Cincinnati is 23-year-old rookie Michael Lorenzen (1-1, 3.12). Lorenzen is making just his seventh career appearance and his fifth start. He was excellent his last time out with seven innings of one-run ball in a win against the Colorado Rockies.

We are not on the road for this one, but check back for analysis in the morning…

WASHINGTON NATIONALS at CINCINNATI REDS
Where:
Great American Ball Park, Cincinnati
Gametime: 1:10 p.m. EDT
TV: MASN2, MLB.tv
Radio: 106.7 FM, 1500 AM, XM 184
Weather: Cloudy, 73 degrees, Wind 12 mph RF to LF

NATIONALS (28-21)
CF Denard Span
SS Ian Desmond
3B Yunel Escobar
RF Bryce Harper
1B Ryan Zimmerman
C Wilson Ramos
2B Danny Espinosa
LF Michael Taylor
RHP Tanner Roark

REDS (21-27)
2B Brandon Phillips
1B Joey Votto
3B Todd Frazier
RF Jay Bruce
SS Zack Cozart
LF Skip Schumaker
C Tucker Barnhart
RHP Michael Lorenzen
CF Billy Hamilton

UMPIRES
HP Paul Emmel
1B Jordan Baker
2B Jerry Meals (cc)
3B Andy Fletcher

333 Comments (Feed for Comments)
  1. Doc - May 31, 2015 at 11:27 AM

    Is Gio OK? No news is good news, I guess?

    How many hit batters, before the Nats do some nasty stuff? Let’s get ahead of these b****rds, and then take some prisoners.

    • Ghost of Steve M. - May 31, 2015 at 11:40 AM

      His ERA took the hit but his own OBP went up.

    • dcwx61 - May 31, 2015 at 11:57 AM

      i would say how many hit batters until those in charge of the game do something. Only after Ray Chapman was killed did the ML outlaw dirty balls.

  2. mauimo22 - May 31, 2015 at 11:28 AM

    Obviously Cincinnati wants to play like punks so today is retrobution day. Hit some batters, talk some smack and score some runs, like 10 of them!
    Oh and Nats pitchers: COVER the base!

  3. Eric - May 31, 2015 at 11:32 AM

    If ever there was a time to eat face, this is it. GO NATS!!!

  4. texnat1 - May 31, 2015 at 12:05 PM

    Yesterday was a perfect example of what the stat heads point to when arguing against the use of your best reliever as a dedicated closer. It was clear that the 8th was going to be the higher leverage inning than the 9th, because Votto et al were up in the 8th. So why not put your best pitcher into face them, leaving Jansen to face the bottom of the order in the 9th?

    I don’t really blame MW, because he did what plenty–if not all—managers would do. But I think its pretty clear that when you have 2 innings left, and the heart of the order happens to be up in the 8th, you should burn your closer then.

    • Doc - May 31, 2015 at 12:11 PM

      Totally agree!

      Baseball managers, as usual, are behind the stats curve. Tradition is a great thing, until it gets in the way of success.

    • adcwonk - May 31, 2015 at 12:24 PM

      That is, apparently, extremely out of the box thinking for those in baseball.

      Makes perfect sense, however, for the rest of us!

    • Jfmii - May 31, 2015 at 12:38 PM

      I was thinking the same thing when the inning started yesterday. Was just a passing thought because it is so unthinkable of a strategy in today’s game

  5. rlndtln - May 31, 2015 at 12:56 PM

    I have been saying that for years.In the old days a 3 inning close was done.If you bring him in for the 8th you may score in the top of the 9th and make the 9th inning close easier.At times we a day off coming you could get a 2 inning close.

  6. Mrsb loves the Nats - May 31, 2015 at 1:16 PM

    The more I watch…. the more I’m leaning towards a machine calling balls and strikes…. it pains me to say that too….

  7. Mrsb loves the Nats - May 31, 2015 at 1:19 PM

    .reds pitcher just walked 2 batters… and Ryan swings at the first damn pitch…

    I cant with this team sometimes…

    • Ghost of Steve M. - May 31, 2015 at 1:23 PM

      Yah, book is to work the count on Lorenzon. Yeesh. That swing is from a veteran.

  8. Ghost of Steve M. - May 31, 2015 at 1:21 PM

    22 pitches for Lorenzon and RZim doesn’t capitalize with 2 on after the pitch around walk to Harp.

    • Joe Seamhead - May 31, 2015 at 1:23 PM

      I didn’t understand the first pitch swinging there by Ryan.

      • Ghost of Steve M. - May 31, 2015 at 1:24 PM

        +1 book on Lorenzon is to work him into a mistake pitch.

      • Mrsb loves the Nats - May 31, 2015 at 1:25 PM

        I NEVER understand first pitch swinging… as long as I’ve been posting on this site, im adamant about that… and pitchers owning innings…

      • Joe Seamhead - May 31, 2015 at 1:29 PM

        Never say never about 1st pitch swinging, but two rules I learned was 1: never swing at a first pitch curve, or other off speed pitches, and 2: never swing at a first pitch when the guy just walked the two guys in front of you.

  9. Mrsb loves the Nats - May 31, 2015 at 1:25 PM

    Jesus Span and Harper…. almost gave me a heart attack…

  10. Ghost of Steve M. - May 31, 2015 at 1:26 PM

    Votto wears one. Nice Tanner!!!

    • BatBoy - May 31, 2015 at 1:31 PM

      Hope he gets more!

  11. Mrsb loves the Nats - May 31, 2015 at 1:32 PM

    I hope we can hear ray and FP together on a broadcast 1 day….

    • rlndtln - May 31, 2015 at 1:34 PM

      This is why we are dumb hitters.3-1 on Ramos and he swings at that pitch against a guy that is wild.

    • dcwx61 - May 31, 2015 at 1:35 PM

      remember they have had some post game disagreements

    • Eugene in Oregon - May 31, 2015 at 1:38 PM

      Which one would you have do play-by-play?

  12. dcwx61 - May 31, 2015 at 1:34 PM

    there is no punishment for intentionally hitting someone.
    Nobody wants to hurt someone so not like in Ray’s day when retribution was painful dangerous.
    League should fine/suspend when there is some question or when there is excessive hitting of batter.

  13. NatsLady - May 31, 2015 at 1:36 PM

    Why is anyone swinging at this guy’s pitches? He can’t find the strike zone.

  14. dcwx61 - May 31, 2015 at 1:36 PM

    so how many guys are hitting consistently…certainly none past the number 4 batter

  15. Mrsb loves the Nats - May 31, 2015 at 1:37 PM

    Oh Danny… that was a ball out of his hands…

  16. Ghost of Steve M. - May 31, 2015 at 1:38 PM

    Every batter 1-8 for the Nats has seen at least 4 balls in the at-bat except Ryan Zimmerman. I don’t get it. What was he seeing in the dugout and on his scouting report to go after that pitch.

  17. NatsLady - May 31, 2015 at 1:39 PM

    LOL–Tanner swings on the first pitch & gets a hit.

  18. Ghost of Steve M. - May 31, 2015 at 1:40 PM

    Talk about a game of inches. Taylor out by an eyelash. Phillips throws a rope to the catcher who makes a nice tag on Taylor.

  19. Mrsb loves the Nats - May 31, 2015 at 1:40 PM

    It was an agressive send….

    But Tanner got a nice swing on the ball…

    • Ghost of Steve M. - May 31, 2015 at 1:43 PM

      Loved the send AND the baserunning by Taylor. Unfortunately Phillips dotted a perfect throw. Note to Danny, that’s how you make a throw to your catcher.

  20. David Proctor - May 31, 2015 at 1:42 PM

    Good send by Sendley

    • Ghost of Steve M. - May 31, 2015 at 1:45 PM

      And as I wrote above and to be noted, excellent sprint around the bases by Taylor.

      • Joe Seamhead - May 31, 2015 at 1:53 PM

        There was a huge improvement from earlier in the year when he rounded 3rd so wide that he was almost in the visitors dugout, yes a slight exaggeration, but you get my drift. Question? If he had slid directly into the plate and Barnhart played it where he did, wouldn’t he have been safe by the interference rule?

      • Ghost of Steve M. - May 31, 2015 at 1:57 PM

        Last year, I think so. That seemed to be the classic block that would reversed. This year has seemed to go back to if you’re out, your out. There’s been no blocking reversals this year. I like the call. When the ball beats you, you should be able to protect your plate.

  21. dcwx61 - May 31, 2015 at 1:43 PM

    well if girls softball can do it…..bring bat the spitter and spiked cleats….That’s what Ty Cobb and a lot of his colleagues would say..

  22. Ghost of Steve M. - May 31, 2015 at 1:48 PM

    Can’t help Lorenzen out today. Let him self-destruct. Don’t help him. Another 4 pitch at-bat to start the 3rd.

    • NatsLady - May 31, 2015 at 1:49 PM

      Desi didn’t hear you. Write LOUDER!

      • Ghost of Steve M. - May 31, 2015 at 1:51 PM

        I don’t get it. Not even sure Mr. 3-0 Jayson Werth would be swinging there.

  23. dcwx61 - May 31, 2015 at 1:49 PM

    I knew he couldn’t walk Desmond.

    Is this the dumbest hitting strategy of all time

  24. Mrsb loves the Nats - May 31, 2015 at 1:49 PM

    Are we really seeing this…. like seriously. He can’t throw a strike and we just swinging…

  25. natsjackinfl - May 31, 2015 at 1:50 PM

    Ian Desmond has zero baseball brains.

    • dcwx61 - May 31, 2015 at 1:52 PM

      Desmond hitting strategy
      rule number 1: when pitcher is wild, always swing on 3-0
      rule number 2: when all you need is a hit to score a run, always go for the fences

    • Ghost of Steve M. - May 31, 2015 at 1:53 PM

      The middle infield just seem to be baseball IQ challenged. Free swingers who can’t grasp situations.

  26. Ghost of Steve M. - May 31, 2015 at 1:50 PM

    Desi, what the F&$* are you doing. Where is your baseball IQ. Swinging 3-0 to this guy who can’t throw strikes.

  27. rlndtln - May 31, 2015 at 1:50 PM

    We are dumb and dumber.I blame MW.He sucks.

    • rlndtln - May 31, 2015 at 1:51 PM

      Can you imagine this AA pitcher shuts us out for 3 innings.

  28. Mrsb loves the Nats - May 31, 2015 at 1:50 PM

    Wow…. 3-0… 2-0… for a guy who can’t find the SZ…

  29. David Proctor - May 31, 2015 at 1:51 PM

    I like swinging 3-0. I do not like giving Ian Desmond the 3-0 green light. To hit 3-0, you have to be selective and get your pitch. Desmond is not selective enough for the green light.

    • Ghost of Steve M. - May 31, 2015 at 1:54 PM

      Bingo. Jayson Werth, Anthony Rendon are the only 2 who get the green light.

      • Mrsb loves the Nats - May 31, 2015 at 1:57 PM

        But this guy can’t find the SZ on a consistent basis…. so why swing at all…..

      • Ghost of Steve M. - May 31, 2015 at 1:58 PM

        But he’s saying they would still be selective and they seem to be the only ones to grasp that.

        I said in another post that I’m not even sure Werth would have swung there. There’s nobody on base to drive in. Take the walk and get Bryce up.

      • Mrsb loves the Nats - May 31, 2015 at 2:00 PM

        I know what he is saying… im just talking collectively about today….

        This is so disappointing..

      • Ghost of Steve M. - May 31, 2015 at 2:01 PM

        Yes, and look at that 4th inning.

  30. NatsLady - May 31, 2015 at 1:51 PM

    This is like hitting against an A-ball pitcher. Why would you ever swing? Let him walk the town!!!

  31. rlndtln - May 31, 2015 at 1:52 PM

    You do not swing 3-0 with a pitcher that can not throw strikes

  32. nattygoats - May 31, 2015 at 1:53 PM

    Ray is killing these guys as he should. Stupid hitting approach. Desmond had his 3 chances the other night with 3 down the gut and whiffed

  33. nattygoats - May 31, 2015 at 1:56 PM

    7 straight balls in the first and Zimm goes hacking on first pitch. Poorly managed team.

    • rlndtln - May 31, 2015 at 1:59 PM

      this is the same decision making that eliminated Roark from our rotation.the rotation should be Scherzer,JZIM,roark and pick the other 2.

  34. dcwx61 - May 31, 2015 at 1:57 PM

    now i know why strasburg didn’t want to go on the DL…he’s afraid of being Wally Pipped (Tanny Roarked)

    • Just. Dave - May 31, 2015 at 2:01 PM

      I will be very upset if Roark is pulled from the rotation. I know that these men have very fragile egos, especially Strasburg, but Tanener must start- he is an ace.

    • Eugene in Oregon - May 31, 2015 at 2:05 PM

      Actually, there’s probably a large element of truth in that (in general terms, at least). Many players are afraid to acknowledge their own (baseball) mortality.

  35. dcwx61 - May 31, 2015 at 1:58 PM

    I really think the offense will return with Tony…you move Ian out of the number 2 slot, and provide more opportunities

    • rlndtln - May 31, 2015 at 2:00 PM

      this guy can not throw strikes and we swing at the first pitch twice and 2 outs.

  36. Mrsb loves the Nats - May 31, 2015 at 1:59 PM

    Oh my lord… harper… no.. just no….

  37. Mrsb loves the Nats - May 31, 2015 at 2:00 PM

    I am hot like fire right now….. 2 pitches… 2 outs…

  38. Ghost of Steve M. - May 31, 2015 at 2:00 PM

    Ryan Zimmerman must be in a hurry for a barbeque. I don’t get it.

  39. Ghost of Steve M. - May 31, 2015 at 2:00 PM

    Ramos is due for a smash.

    • rlndtln - May 31, 2015 at 2:01 PM

      I can not watch this.

      • Ghost of Steve M. - May 31, 2015 at 2:02 PM

        At least he saw 3 pitches. Maybe Roark can get another hit next inning.

  40. nattygoats - May 31, 2015 at 2:00 PM

    2 pitches 2 outs. For the love of peace can we move Zimm down in the lineup. He’s awful

    • rlndtln - May 31, 2015 at 2:02 PM

      We are going no where.if not for this awful division.5 pitch inning for this bum.

  41. TheBigDummy - May 31, 2015 at 2:01 PM

    Desi’s batting approach of “swing hard in case you hit it” seems really counter productive. Don’t like Zimmerman seeing two pitches in his two at bats.

  42. nattygoats - May 31, 2015 at 2:01 PM

    Get the brooms out I’m afraid. This is Ugly

  43. David Proctor - May 31, 2015 at 2:02 PM

    The approach today has be the worst I’ve seen all year. It makes no sense.

    • rlndtln - May 31, 2015 at 2:03 PM

      there is no manager here.

      • David Proctor - May 31, 2015 at 2:04 PM

        The manager shouldn’t be dictating hitting approaches anyway. That should be on the advanced scouts and the hitting coach. But even then, it’s on the players to put the game plan into action. I doubt the game plan was to go up swinging wildly.

      • NatsLady - May 31, 2015 at 2:13 PM

        Even if the original strategy was to “ambush” this guy, don’t you adjust after the first inning????

    • dcwx61 - May 31, 2015 at 2:11 PM

      they need a trip to the wood shed with the Silver Fox…or watch more girl’s softball

  44. Mrsb loves the Nats - May 31, 2015 at 2:05 PM

    Think he missed his location…

  45. rlndtln - May 31, 2015 at 2:13 PM

    The manager is in charge.case closed.this is his team and his philosophy.We do not run,play small ball.

    • rlndtln - May 31, 2015 at 2:18 PM

      we do not give this guy to throw pitches.

  46. NatsLady - May 31, 2015 at 2:14 PM

    Man, I DO love Danny’s D!

  47. Ghost of Steve M. - May 31, 2015 at 2:16 PM

    I think they keep the infield grass longer in Cincy to slow down those grounders for Hamilton and Cozart to use their speed to beat some out. Worked for Espi there so he could get to that ball to end the inning.

  48. Ghost of Steve M. - May 31, 2015 at 2:18 PM

    Ray: They’re not listening to me. He’s not throwing strikes. Stop swinging at the 1st pitch.

    • rlndtln - May 31, 2015 at 2:20 PM

      we need to keep robinson in the line up against righties.I have been saying that for weeks.MT will hit below 200 against righties.we need offense.

  49. Eugene in Oregon - May 31, 2015 at 2:18 PM

    “We do not run”
    ———————

    Nats are 12 for 22 in stolen bases. If you can’t succeed 67% of the time, running is a net negative. Why would you want to increase the number of unproductive outs? Seems like good managing to recognize that.

    • rlndtln - May 31, 2015 at 2:24 PM

      we do not even put runners in motion.ever hear of a hit and run.we never bunt .If you think MW is a good manager you never saw a good one.we are getting beat this weekend by 3 minor league pitchers.we are supposed to be the world champs.give me a break.the Giants and Cards will eat our lunch with 2 great managers.They lose players and have injuries.The cards lose there best pitcher and now Adams and keep winning.MW will not bring us a championship.

      • Eugene in Oregon - May 31, 2015 at 2:34 PM

        You’re getting off topic. You suggested running more. The Nats are not constructed as a running team. When they run they succeed barely 50% of the time. If you think the manager should send more runners to outs, fine. To be that would be poor managing.

      • Eugene in Oregon - May 31, 2015 at 2:36 PM

        Sorry, last sentence should begin: ‘To me’

  50. Mrsb loves the Nats - May 31, 2015 at 2:19 PM

    I’m so baffled today …. I mean this is just bad….

    • rlndtln - May 31, 2015 at 2:27 PM

      Luck we are in the national league east.

    • dcwx61 - May 31, 2015 at 2:28 PM

      playing down to the competition ?
      too many guys on dl (tendon, worth) or playing hurt (harper, zimmerman) ?
      I don’t know

  51. Mrsb loves the Nats - May 31, 2015 at 2:27 PM

    Are we really about to get swept…. by the Reds….

    • Ghost of Steve M. - May 31, 2015 at 2:33 PM

      Nah, 5th inning. Nats will get a bunch on the board in the 6th.

      • Mrsb loves the Nats - May 31, 2015 at 2:34 PM

        From your lips/fingers to the baseball God’s ears….

      • Ghost of Steve M. - May 31, 2015 at 2:40 PM

        That looked easy for the Reds. 3 up, 3 down. 2 balls hit hard and right at the corner outfielders.

      • Ghost of Steve M. - May 31, 2015 at 2:48 PM

        Should we try again?

      • Mrsb loves the Nats - May 31, 2015 at 2:49 PM

        I changed locations… hoping that will spark the Nats offense…

      • Ghost of Steve M. - May 31, 2015 at 2:51 PM

        Good thought.

    • nattygoats - May 31, 2015 at 2:38 PM

      Yes MAM. And I wanna cry.

  52. natsjackinfl - May 31, 2015 at 2:32 PM

    Can’t even imagine Ian Desmond taking a pitch to right field on a 3-2 count like Frazier did there. Nope, he’d screw himself a foot into the ground in the batteers box.

    • Ghost of Steve M. - May 31, 2015 at 2:36 PM

      Frazier seemed fooled and got lucky just getting a bat on that.

      While I know you’re down on Desi, this is the same guy he’s been and won’t change. He’s all or nothing and has Silver Sluggers to go with his stats. How is he any different from Espi and Taylor. These are all swing out of their cleats guys.

      • dcwx61 - May 31, 2015 at 6:15 PM

        Taylor is young…Espi’s OBP is about 50 point higher

  53. natsjackinfl - May 31, 2015 at 2:35 PM

    Two times through the lineup and Tanner Roark has the only squared up ball so far.

    Ridiculous!

    • Ghost of Steve M. - May 31, 2015 at 2:38 PM

      Well there’s 2 more smashes only right at the outfielders. You’re smart enough to know about BABIP.

      • natsjackinfl - May 31, 2015 at 2:46 PM

        I know all about BABIP. I just don’t care about it.

      • Ghost of Steve M. - May 31, 2015 at 2:47 PM

        Usually don’t see you this negative. I’m frustrated too but almost every comment on this in-game is negative.

  54. nattygoats - May 31, 2015 at 2:35 PM

    Quite the bad series. Very disheartening.

  55. nattygoats - May 31, 2015 at 2:37 PM

    Just can’t see this team going anywhere. Not even in the top 5 in the NL

  56. Mrsb loves the Nats - May 31, 2015 at 2:39 PM

    What a pathetic display of baseball… its no other way to cut how terrible this is…

    • nattygoats - May 31, 2015 at 2:41 PM

      Just curious. Who do you blame for that?

  57. nattygoats - May 31, 2015 at 2:39 PM

    Embarrassing. Just embarrassing. Quit swinging

  58. nattygoats - May 31, 2015 at 2:40 PM

    Reds going to blow it open now. Please plunk somebody. It’s all we got

  59. ogremj - May 31, 2015 at 2:42 PM

    Span is getting a workout.

  60. Mrsb loves the Nats - May 31, 2015 at 2:43 PM

    Is there anyone warming in the BP? Last 2 innings Tanner fell behind a few batters…

  61. natsjackinfl - May 31, 2015 at 2:44 PM

    Rendon is 1-2 today with a double as the DH for Harrisburg.

    • Ghost of Steve M. - May 31, 2015 at 2:46 PM

      Finally, something positive.

      • Mrsb loves the Nats - May 31, 2015 at 2:48 PM

        I think Tanner has been positive today…. and that’s all I got …

        So yeah thanks NJ for giving us a bit more good news.

      • Ghost of Steve M. - May 31, 2015 at 2:51 PM

        And Bryce!!!!

    • Steady Eddie - May 31, 2015 at 3:05 PM

      Yes, at the Senators game. That double was a classic TTB line drive down the LF line.

  62. dcwx61 - May 31, 2015 at 2:44 PM

    Rendon watch!!!

  63. nattygoats - May 31, 2015 at 2:47 PM

    I think this team came into this series figuring HR city. After all it is a softball field. However nobody would have minded today if the BP hadn’t pooped in there pants the first 2 games

  64. dcwx61 - May 31, 2015 at 2:49 PM

    what’s the over-under that Zimm swings at the first pitch

    • Mrsb loves the Nats - May 31, 2015 at 2:50 PM

      Why limit it to just Zimm….

      • dcwx61 - May 31, 2015 at 2:51 PM

        it took 7 innings but we may have figured this guy out

    • dcwx61 - May 31, 2015 at 2:50 PM

      yes ryan

  65. Ghost of Steve M. - May 31, 2015 at 2:50 PM

    Didn’t see Bryce swinging 3-0. He knows the Nats need baserunners. Now Ryan Zimmerman has to take advantage.

  66. Ghost of Steve M. - May 31, 2015 at 2:52 PM

    Justin Bour just homered for the Marlins. Just sayin.

  67. Mrsb loves the Nats - May 31, 2015 at 2:53 PM

    2 base runners… and NO OUT… # WINNING

    that’s all I got….

  68. Mrsb loves the Nats - May 31, 2015 at 2:54 PM

    2 DAMN WALKS AND RAMOS 1ST PITCH SWINGS AGAIN…. WHY….

    • Ghost of Steve M. - May 31, 2015 at 2:55 PM

      I know. smh

      • Mrsb loves the Nats - May 31, 2015 at 2:57 PM

        I don’t think you understand how livid/pissed/disappointed and some I am with this game… even if the Nats win, I still won’t be all estastic…. this terrible, on so many levels.

      • Ghost of Steve M. - May 31, 2015 at 2:58 PM

        MW has a chance here to turn things around. It’s not like the Reds have played well.

    • dcwx61 - May 31, 2015 at 2:57 PM

      bring in robby ???
      it’s the moment of the game

    • dcwx61 - May 31, 2015 at 2:57 PM

      Real Senores Don’t Walk

  69. Ghost of Steve M. - May 31, 2015 at 2:57 PM

    Get in your Manager decisions. Pinch hitter here or go with Taylor?

    • dcwx61 - May 31, 2015 at 2:58 PM

      i ph robby go with the matchup

      • dcwx61 - May 31, 2015 at 2:58 PM

        taylor can’t hit off speed

      • Ghost of Steve M. - May 31, 2015 at 2:59 PM

        I stick with Taylor

      • dcwx61 - May 31, 2015 at 3:00 PM

        you were right but why

      • Ghost of Steve M. - May 31, 2015 at 3:04 PM

        I figured he almost got Hoover yesterday and would be aggressive. The single was a bonus was thinking Sac Fly

      • dcwx61 - May 31, 2015 at 3:05 PM

        thanks

      • dcwx61 - May 31, 2015 at 3:00 PM

        Luckily I only manage IT

    • Mrsb loves the Nats - May 31, 2015 at 2:59 PM

      Go with Taylor…

      Attempt 3

      • Ghost of Steve M. - May 31, 2015 at 3:00 PM

        There you go! Bam!

      • dcwx61 - May 31, 2015 at 3:02 PM

        yes i see now….you need Robby for the pitcher anyway

  70. rlndtln - May 31, 2015 at 2:57 PM

    It is amazing if you take pitches against this minor leaguer what happens.

  71. Mrsb loves the Nats - May 31, 2015 at 3:00 PM

    I didnt mean to report Ghost comment but reply… please IGNORE it….

    • Ghost of Steve M. - May 31, 2015 at 3:02 PM

      My comment probably wasn’t good!

      • Mrsb loves the Nats - May 31, 2015 at 3:11 PM

        Lol… I tried to post my reply 3 tomes… wasn’t going thru… and I think in my haste I hit the report button…

        Definitely need a confirmation button after hitting report..

  72. natsjackinfl - May 31, 2015 at 3:00 PM

    And Michael hots another breaking pitch. That’s more like it.

  73. Ghost of Steve M. - May 31, 2015 at 3:01 PM

    Poor baserunning from Taylor on his single. No way he shouldn’t have been on 2nd on the throw home.

    • scmargenau - May 31, 2015 at 3:03 PM

      Really? Dude, give him some cred

      • Mrsb loves the Nats - May 31, 2015 at 3:05 PM

        Point is still valid as had he been on 2nd… the inning continues and it’s not a DP ball.

      • Ghost of Steve M. - May 31, 2015 at 3:05 PM

        Credit for the hit for sure but you have to keep running there…..and….oops….take away the doubleplay.

    • TimDz - May 31, 2015 at 3:05 PM

      Was going to make the same comment…,

      MAT is young and will learn….not sure if he’ll be the man in center next year….

      Please, Barrett……be filthy….

      • Ghost of Steve M. - May 31, 2015 at 3:06 PM

        I gave him high marks for his baserunning in the 2nd inning but you have to be consistent. Once that ball comes home you have to be on 2nd. The kid has speed, use it.

  74. scmargenau - May 31, 2015 at 3:02 PM

    Umm, for u critics of MAT – that was a breaking ball clutch hit. Zim is a leader in rbis – it’s not always about avg, it’s about clutch.

    • dcwx61 - May 31, 2015 at 3:04 PM

      yep…lesson learned. Focused on the negative past rather than positive past accomplishments

      Let me think better for Bear

  75. dcwx61 - May 31, 2015 at 3:03 PM

    yippee all tied up!!

  76. rlndtln - May 31, 2015 at 3:04 PM

    MT should have been on second and we would still be up.

    • Mrsb loves the Nats - May 31, 2015 at 3:06 PM

      Yep. Real hopeful that he can play every day in Werth absence as he won’t be able to get better by sitting on the bench.. not a big fan of LG by rotation….

  77. dcwx61 - May 31, 2015 at 3:07 PM

    I’m hoping Chapman is not available

  78. Ghost of Steve M. - May 31, 2015 at 3:08 PM

    Steven Souza a 3 run HR. 2-3 today.

  79. Ghost of Steve M. - May 31, 2015 at 3:09 PM

    If Barrett throws it to 1st he gets Hamilton then can get Byrd at 2nd. Bad mistake.

    • rlndtln - May 31, 2015 at 3:10 PM

      agree.he made 2 mistakes.

      • Ghost of Steve M. - May 31, 2015 at 3:11 PM

        1st catch it but if you do the drop on purpose. Get the doubleplay as Hamilton was not running out of the box.

  80. Mrsb loves the Nats - May 31, 2015 at 3:13 PM

    Bang bang…. we need some one that can wreck havoc on the base paths….

  81. Ghost of Steve M. - May 31, 2015 at 3:13 PM

    Espi unfortunately got the back knee but that throw was on it. On Aaron Barrett there, Hamilton shouldn’t have been on base.

  82. Ghost of Steve M. - May 31, 2015 at 3:14 PM

    Aaron Barrett better concentrate on the batter here

    • Mrsb loves the Nats - May 31, 2015 at 3:15 PM

      Every time he comes in lately he has given up a run… time to find a different spot for him until he gets it together..

      • rlndtln - May 31, 2015 at 3:16 PM

        AAA

      • Ghost of Steve M. - May 31, 2015 at 3:18 PM

        Not happy at all. Lost his edge once again. Starts getting comfortable.

  83. dcwx61 - May 31, 2015 at 3:14 PM

    darn it…costly mistakes

  84. Mrsb loves the Nats - May 31, 2015 at 3:14 PM

    Wow…. barrett… I cant

  85. rlndtln - May 31, 2015 at 3:15 PM

    how can you win with a bullpen like this.I have been saying this for weeks.Imagine the pressure of the playoffs with these guys.

  86. Ghost of Steve M. - May 31, 2015 at 3:16 PM

    Aaron Barrett with another clunker. Not on the hits but not catching the popped up bunt. You catch it and it’s Byrd on 1st and 1 out with Phillips up.

  87. natsguy - May 31, 2015 at 3:16 PM

    Barrett wow where is his F’ing head. Been around too long for mistakes like that. Every time he comes in I get that same feeling I used to get with Soriano.

  88. natsjackinfl - May 31, 2015 at 3:17 PM

    Good old Ian Desmond.

  89. Mrsb loves the Nats - May 31, 2015 at 3:17 PM

    All these mistakes keep coming back and costing the Nats…

    Today the approach to the SP was terrible… MAT not being on 2nd and then Crob hitting into the DP, then Barrett not catching the ball right too him… not even going to mention last night with Jensen… and the game before last… nope cuz you know those mistakes…

  90. texnat1 - May 31, 2015 at 3:18 PM

    Maybe I am being unfair, but I’m just not a Barrett guy. As Yoda would say, much fear I sense in him.

  91. natsguy - May 31, 2015 at 3:19 PM

    Lots of people don’t have their heads in the game. Wow, really badly played game.

  92. dcwx61 - May 31, 2015 at 3:20 PM

    oh my….the bullpen continues to be the achilles heel

    • dcwx61 - May 31, 2015 at 3:22 PM

      it worked if Roark and Stammen were in BP

  93. Mrsb loves the Nats - May 31, 2015 at 3:21 PM

    We about to get swept by the damn Reds… wow….

  94. Ghost of Steve M. - May 31, 2015 at 3:21 PM

    Now Grace craps his pants.

  95. texnat1 - May 31, 2015 at 3:22 PM

    Nats have the top of the order up and I am assuming that Chapman is unavailable. It would be nice to keep this a one run game here. . .

    • dcwx61 - May 31, 2015 at 3:23 PM

      how about 4

      • texnat1 - May 31, 2015 at 3:24 PM

        *would have been nice*

    • Mrsb loves the Nats - May 31, 2015 at 3:28 PM

      Chapman was warming up… but he is moot at this point…

  96. nattygoats - May 31, 2015 at 3:22 PM

    Huge hit by the number 8 hitter once again to tie the game. And Rizzos bullpen pukes on the mound again. Fix it today Rizzo. Fix it now. You can’t win with this mess.

  97. scmargenau - May 31, 2015 at 3:22 PM

    I’ve seen enough Matt grace. No mas.

    • scmargenau - May 31, 2015 at 3:24 PM

      Send barret n grace down. Bring in young guns, can’t be worse. Grace throws to flat, no movement, like stras fail

  98. dcwx61 - May 31, 2015 at 3:23 PM

    death by a thousand relievers

    • nattygoats - May 31, 2015 at 3:24 PM

      Hahahahahahahaha. Okay I feel better. That is funny stuff. Hahahahaha

    • nattygoats - May 31, 2015 at 3:26 PM

      Still laughing dude. Hahahaha

  99. Mrsb loves the Nats - May 31, 2015 at 3:23 PM

    I hope they play much better than the Jays.. cuz this series is just sickening…

  100. nattygoats - May 31, 2015 at 3:24 PM

    OMG. Ahhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhh. Time to trade. This is outlandish. Ahhhhhhhhhhhhhhhh

  101. Eric - May 31, 2015 at 3:24 PM

    Yiiiiikes.

    How was Frazier safe at second? Why didn’t we challenge that???

    • scmargenau - May 31, 2015 at 3:28 PM

      Way to go MW – Johnny on the spot. You fanboyz better STOP defending the this atrocity

  102. Ghost of Steve M. - May 31, 2015 at 3:25 PM

    Hate to say it, this bullpen woes are due to Strasburg and Gio not doing their jobs as starters and over-working these guys.

    Today like last night PFF (Pitcher Fielding Fundamentals) not executed.

    • nattygoats - May 31, 2015 at 3:27 PM

      No do to Rizzo.

      • Ghost of Steve M. - May 31, 2015 at 3:28 PM

        I’m sure they wanted to DL for Strasburg sooner. Not that easy.

    • Mrsb loves the Nats - May 31, 2015 at 3:27 PM

      Idk if I can agree with this… if Jansen covers 1st and Barrett doesn’t drop the bunt, may be a different story…

      • Ghost of Steve M. - May 31, 2015 at 3:29 PM

        Of course, that’s right on yesterday and today. Poor PFFs.

        The over-use of the bullpen is based on the multiple short outings of Strasburg and Gio.

        My 2 comments are separate of each other.

      • Mrsb loves the Nats - May 31, 2015 at 3:37 PM

        Gotcha… read them together…

    • texnat1 - May 31, 2015 at 3:27 PM

      That hasn’t helped, but lets not forget that guys like Barrett, Grace and Trienen are largely unproven. So it may just be that they aren’t good enough (or aren’t ready).

      • Ghost of Steve M. - May 31, 2015 at 3:33 PM

        Grace is unproven. Barrett thinks being a clown is cool and he once again lost his edge. Maybe he should do another standoff to start a game. He’s darn good at that.

        Treinen has only given up 2 runs in his last 13.2 innings.

    • NatsLady - May 31, 2015 at 3:45 PM

      Was going to point out the same. These guys cannot work every day, even every other day, and full innings, plus warming up. Barrett has warmed up every day for what, a week?

      • Ghost of Steve M. - May 31, 2015 at 3:50 PM

        People were blaming the decision to leave Janssen in last night but I think the only other choice was a 4 out save for Storen.

        They may need AJ Cole back to eat innings out of the pen.

  103. rlndtln - May 31, 2015 at 3:27 PM

    You are joking a 1 run game.This is a AAA bullpen at best.Grace is not a major leaguer.Barett AAA, Treinen has the best stuff,Thornton fair,Storen excellent,Solis AAA,Jansen washed up.Our starters except Scherzer and JZIM is fair at best.Guys we had our chance twice in 12 and 14.We are finished.I am not negative just a realist.Get your heads out of your.

    • nattygoats - May 31, 2015 at 3:28 PM

      Well spoken. But with a couple trades we can save this season.

    • dcwx61 - May 31, 2015 at 3:29 PM

      starting pitching is much better than that. bullpen analysis is fair imho

      • rlndtln - May 31, 2015 at 3:32 PM

        Scherzer excellent,JZIM excellent,Gio fair to poor,Fister hurt,Tanner fair,Stras finished.overall fair.look at the stats .we are in the middle.

      • dcwx61 - May 31, 2015 at 3:34 PM

        Tanner Good, Fister and Stras questionable ?
        I’m optimistic that one of Fister or Stras makes it back. it’s the BP that hurts and I can see no hope in.

  104. Ghost of Steve M. - May 31, 2015 at 3:27 PM

    Matt Grace has to be sent back to AAA for Rivero. Get that plane ready. Just awful.

    • nattygoats - May 31, 2015 at 3:29 PM

      Or Stevie Wonder

  105. natsjackinfl - May 31, 2015 at 3:27 PM

    Matt Grace, catch the next flight to Syracuse.

  106. dcwx61 - May 31, 2015 at 3:27 PM

    ok, so I can’t trust Barrett or Grace plus 2 RPs lost to injury and promotion to starter slot.
    This is not last year’s BP.

  107. natsjackinfl - May 31, 2015 at 3:30 PM

    Don’t expect much out of Hill.

  108. dcwx61 - May 31, 2015 at 3:30 PM

    could this be the Nats worst relief inning ever.

    • Mrsb loves the Nats - May 31, 2015 at 3:36 PM

      Last night was pretty terrible.

      • dcwx61 - May 31, 2015 at 3:39 PM

        ok, the worst series…can’t go far in the playoffs with this pen

  109. rabbit433 - May 31, 2015 at 3:31 PM

    So, where’s my Orioles hat!!!!!!!!!!!! Face it. We can win the division, but we need LUCK like all the other teams. We don’t have the great pitching staff outside of one pitcher, and we do know how to strike out. Harper is the only batter who seems to have a chance when he’s up there. Yes, we can win it, but so can anyone else. We have NO advantage.

    • nattygoats - May 31, 2015 at 3:36 PM

      Last time I checked Os under .500 and not in first.

      • natsjackinfl - May 31, 2015 at 3:47 PM

        And getting hammered today by that juggernaut Tampa Bay (again) 7-2.

      • rabbit433 - Jun 1, 2015 at 8:28 AM

        So……………?

  110. BatBoy - May 31, 2015 at 3:31 PM

    Gotta be kidding me! Game loss thanks to Matt!!!!

  111. TimDz - May 31, 2015 at 3:31 PM

    Yup….not good…..

    I’ll say this….As bad as a hitting team the Reds have been, they are still a professional team and were going to bust out…just happened to be against the Nats….Barrett will be demoted…needs to figure some things out.

    The fact that Roark not only plunked that whiney Votto….but drilled him….is a salvage to the series, in my opinion….I am banking the Nats sweep the Reds at Nats Park….

    This is one game and one series….

    GYFNG….

    • rlndtln - May 31, 2015 at 3:34 PM

      They beat us with 3 AAA pitchers.Did not use Cueto or Leake.We would have lost 5 if we kept playing with those 2 on deck.

      • Mrsb loves the Nats - May 31, 2015 at 3:44 PM

        The first 6 innings were so discouraging… like pathetic…

    • natsjackinfl - May 31, 2015 at 3:38 PM

      Totally agree. I was half expecting a clunker of a series to come soon but this wasn’t’ the one. Cincinnati has been horrible lately.

      It’s just one series but the inexperienced bullpen and the clunker by Jannsen has got to trouble Rizzo.

      • TimDz - May 31, 2015 at 3:47 PM

        Thanks natsjack….
        not only did you reply to one of my comments….you agreed with me….

        I now consider my weekend a success. 🙂

    • Mrsb loves the Nats - May 31, 2015 at 3:39 PM

      I bet the next team to face Lorenzen will score 7 runs on him alone…

      • Eric - May 31, 2015 at 3:44 PM

        Didn’t he pitch 7 innings of two hit, shutout ball his last outing?

        We bailed him out, sure, but apparently he iscapable of pitching well.

      • Mrsb loves the Nats - May 31, 2015 at 3:45 PM

        We will see his next outting. He had absolutely NOTHING today…. and we didn’t even put up a fight.

  112. nattygoats - May 31, 2015 at 3:33 PM

    Hey the good news is we don’t know who’s pitching tomorrow.

  113. Mrsb loves the Nats - May 31, 2015 at 3:37 PM

    I hope Span isnt hurt….

  114. rlndtln - May 31, 2015 at 3:37 PM

    Funny how Mets manager in a 1 run game in the 8th brings in closer to face Stanton and a 2 inning save.We could have done the same yesterday but MW does not think outside the box.He was saving Storen for todays save or mondays save that may not happen.

  115. Eric - May 31, 2015 at 3:40 PM

    Man. This series is the worst.

  116. dcwx61 - May 31, 2015 at 3:45 PM

    The problem I have is that the hopes I had for this unproven Ball pen were unfounded
    and you can not go far without a very good bp

  117. nattygoats - May 31, 2015 at 3:45 PM

    Desi for Clipp

  118. exposremains - May 31, 2015 at 3:46 PM

    Embarassing weekend against rookies and a bad team. That bullpen except Storen is terrible. They looked good at first until the league figured them out.

    • Eric - May 31, 2015 at 3:47 PM

      Thornton is pretty solid, too.

      • exposremains - May 31, 2015 at 3:54 PM

        Yes forgot about Thornton.

    • Mrsb loves the Nats - May 31, 2015 at 3:49 PM

      Thornton is pretty good.. Trienan seems to be on the way…

      • Eric - May 31, 2015 at 3:56 PM

        +1 re: Treinen. He seems to be figuring out how to get that sinker to end up at the target. Early on it seemed to be aimed at the target, only to end up somewhere else.

  119. Mrsb loves the Nats - May 31, 2015 at 3:47 PM

    I’ve always like Brandon P….

  120. NatsLady - May 31, 2015 at 3:47 PM

    You people. Wait’ll we get six runs in the top of the 9th.

    • Eric - May 31, 2015 at 3:48 PM

      Hey, I’m still watching. So far, though, I maintain that this series is the worst (so to speak) ;).

    • dcwx61 - May 31, 2015 at 3:49 PM

      we could with the pathetic reds bullpen

    • nattygoats - May 31, 2015 at 3:52 PM

      Hahaha. Lay off those wine coolers

      • NatsLady - May 31, 2015 at 4:02 PM

        Haven’t had any wine yet. Am about to. 😉

  121. dcwx61 - May 31, 2015 at 3:47 PM

    but wow….the Reds bullpen was 28th with a 4.58 ERA before today

  122. AlexandriaNatFan - May 31, 2015 at 3:49 PM

    On Cincy using AAA pitchers against us: For what it’s worth, I feel like we hit worse against bad pitchers and better against established/good pitchers. I don’t have the stats on this, but I’m generally worried when the Nats are facing a poor or unproven pitcher.

  123. NatsLady - May 31, 2015 at 3:49 PM

    Actually, the boys took today off. Davey used let them do that. I’m okay with it. Aggravating as a fan, sure. But once Stras went down, the series was going to be an uphill battle anyway.

    • Mrsb loves the Nats - May 31, 2015 at 3:52 PM

      They could have rested Bryce if that were the case… Span too….

      • NatsLady - May 31, 2015 at 3:58 PM

        Bryce never rests. Span, yeah, gonna need a day off. Really hope we don’t hear something bad.

      • Mrsb loves the Nats - May 31, 2015 at 4:02 PM

        Wqs thinking about the back… but im just glad this series is over…

      • Eric - May 31, 2015 at 4:07 PM

        I was out until the 7th inning. Did something specific happen with Span? Or, just concerned because he was pulled?

  124. senators69 - May 31, 2015 at 3:50 PM

    This series: Some bad bullpen pieces, some mental and otherwise fielding issues, and some managing issues.

    Look, I know the Nats can’t win every series, but we somehow have to:
    1) Right the bullpen guys who are not getting it done or somehow replace them
    2) Stop the weak fielding by Desi and pitchers
    3) Coach Matt Williams to be a plus manager vs simply neutral at best.

    When Rendon comes back and if he plays well (he should), may be time for Rizzo to trade Desi for a good bullpen arm (if comfortable with the remaining infielders)

    If Fister & Stras can come back to close to expected, could move Roark (my main man and #2 pitching MVP after Scherzer) back to the pen and demote some of the current BP guys.

    More fielding practice for pitchers and infielders (include all b/c NEED to give Desi lots of reps).

    Maybe do all of the above.

  125. hitmeimopen - May 31, 2015 at 3:54 PM

    Saw Zimmerman limping. He hurt?

    • dcwx61 - May 31, 2015 at 3:56 PM

      he’s been bothered by Planter Fasciatis

    • nattygoats - May 31, 2015 at 3:57 PM

      Man who isn’t hurt?

  126. Theophilus T.S. - May 31, 2015 at 3:55 PM

    There are three pitchers in the BP who right now have no business on an MLB roster, one who should only be allowed out in a close game unless a fourth-inning downpour is imminent.

    Barrett’s choice to throw out the slowpoke at 2B wasn’t smart — again, the Nats are undone by an unsmart play — but he was going for the lead runner on instinct (probably) and, more important, he didn’t take care of business after that — which would have resolved things.

    As I said earlier (in a previous thread), a major reason the BP stinks right now is the shambles among the starters has forced the Nats to move Roark into the rotation, the most reliable (and flexible) pitcher behind Soren.

    Calling up Rivero might give a lot of us hope but I don’t see that being a real upgrade.

    • Toot D. Blan - May 31, 2015 at 7:10 PM

      If Barrett had thrown to first to try to get Hamilton after he muffed the popup bunt, that would have been the stupidest play of all. No way he would have gotten Hamilton on a throw there, he’s one of the fastest runners in MLB. He only got Byrd at second because Byrd had to hold up waiting to see if Barrett caught the popup. You should be glad Barrett didn’t make a second stupid play after stupidly failing to catch that bunt.

      • rlndtln - Jun 1, 2015 at 9:05 PM

        He would have easily gotten Hamilton.The bunt went right back to him and he would have gotten Hamilton easily and would have gotten the DP.

  127. nattygoats - May 31, 2015 at 3:55 PM

    I like it but I don’t expect Stras to return and be better

  128. dcwx61 - May 31, 2015 at 3:55 PM

    teams with the best bullpens…kc, st. louis, houston and dodgers
    no surprise that they are amongst the best in baseball

    • Ghost of Steve M. - May 31, 2015 at 4:34 PM

      Nats need some bullpen help. No doubt about it. Good news is Nats have the best closer.

      Solid this month has been Storen, Thornton, Treinen. Not solid have been Barrett and Grace. Mixed bag is Janssen and he needs to be watched.

  129. NatsLady - May 31, 2015 at 3:57 PM

    I don’t think Stras is coming back soon. I think he’s injured, and when they do enough MRIs/CT scans, etc., they’ll find a torn something. A.J. Cole will have to step up, and that’s going to be a real challenge.
    I think RZimm is bothered by his foot, especially at the plate. He says he’s managing, but managing and being healthy are two different things.

  130. Eugene in Oregon - May 31, 2015 at 3:58 PM

    Ugly game, ugly series. Put it behind you. 102 games to go. It’s a long season.

    • Ghost of Steve M. - May 31, 2015 at 4:35 PM

      112 more games if you can believe that.

  131. Theophilus T.S. - May 31, 2015 at 3:58 PM

    Friday night I lay on the offense, Saturday and today on the BP — but the offense gets a statuette for Worst Performance in a Supporting Role for not putting a chokehold on those games early.

    • Toot D. Blan - May 31, 2015 at 7:13 PM

      Saturday is squarely on the manager. Gio should never have come back out after taking a HBP to his throwing arm. I know he said he was okay, but that doesn’t matter. A smart manager never would have sent him back out there.

      • infideljack - May 31, 2015 at 8:24 PM

        Moving Tanner Roark to the rotation hurts the BP. The only experienced guys besides him that are any good are Thornton and Storen. Trienen doesn’t have a lot of BP experience, but he is learning fast and has ice water in his veins.

      • nataddicted - May 31, 2015 at 8:28 PM

        Agree about Sat. A quick hook puts a different spin on that game.

        Of course if Matt had his pitcher(s) committed to being infielders….

  132. nattygoats - May 31, 2015 at 4:06 PM

    To take leads or tie games then instantly give it back speaks volumes of how bad the BP really is.

  133. nattygoats - May 31, 2015 at 4:07 PM

    Mets win. .5 game up

  134. rlndtln - May 31, 2015 at 4:09 PM

    Better sign JZIM or we will compete with the phillies next year.Familia 1.2 innings and a save,He must be superman according to MW.

  135. Drew - May 31, 2015 at 4:10 PM

    When Carp said Barrett was warming I turned off the TV, headed out to do weekend cores and didn’t look back — till now.

  136. NatsLady - May 31, 2015 at 4:11 PM

    The good news is the boys are coming home and our two best pitchers are lined up for tomorrow and Tuesday. If they can go deep, that should help the bullpen.

    Yes, the Jays can hit, but they don’t have the DH. R.A. Dickey is 2-5 with a 5.77 ERA.

    It will storm tomorrow and the heat will break. If you get hungry during the rain delay, hot dogs are $1.

    • Toot D. Blan - May 31, 2015 at 7:15 PM

      The Nats have traditionally been terrible against Dickey and other knuckleballers. Do you see any reason that should change tomorrow? I don’t.

  137. Eric - May 31, 2015 at 4:12 PM

    So…we have the Jays and the Cubs at home while the Mets have the Padres and the Dbacks on the road…

    “Maybe get a little bit darker before the day…” – Hunter

    • NatsLady - May 31, 2015 at 4:26 PM

      Eh, the Jays aren’t any better than the Padres/DBacks, and we can beat the Cubs.

      • Eric - May 31, 2015 at 4:46 PM

        I agree we can beat the Cubs, and probably could do so more decisively than we did last week… But we’re shuffling a bit.

        I’m not saying we’ll be 6.5 back at the end of this 7-game stretch, but I’m not feeling entirely confident we’ll hold 1st.

        Hopefully we’ll be getting back in the groove by the time we get to the Cubs.

      • Eric - May 31, 2015 at 4:47 PM

        Shuffling = scuffling

      • infideljack - May 31, 2015 at 8:19 PM

        Rendon should be back next week, maybe Wed or Thursday.
        Desi and Espi should be auditioning for a starting job.
        I know, Desi wins not matter what, short of an injury.

  138. manassasnatsfan - May 31, 2015 at 4:23 PM

    My trip to Chicago and Cincinatti had several things consistent. Each game Barrett and Grace pitched they both stunk.

    Janssen one great game, one stunk

    Four good starts, Two bad ones.

    Janssen and Barrett have a big need for PFP.

    Long trip home.

  139. lesatcsc - May 31, 2015 at 4:23 PM

    Well that was embarrassing. That’s as bad a weekend as you can have; the Nats get swept, humiliated, hurt and didn’t even show the nerve to take care of business when their star player got drilled. So they were beaten in very possible sense of the word.

    What is worrisome is that the BP looks really inconsistent. Grace is probably in the bigs too soon, Barrett is a crap shoot (sometimes great/sometimes horrible) and the jury is out on Jansen after yesterday’s debacle.

    Another nice start by Roark. When Fister and SS come back, how do you put Roark back in the pen? He’s a better starter than Gio at the very least.

    • Eric - May 31, 2015 at 4:37 PM

      “didn’t even show the nerve to take care of business when their star player got drilled.”

      So you think Roark accidentally buried that pitch in Votto’s kidney today?

      • Ghost of Steve M. - May 31, 2015 at 4:39 PM

        +1

      • nataddicted - May 31, 2015 at 8:40 PM

        Eric: “So you think Roark accidentally buried that pitch in Votto’s kidney today?”

        I think that was the only intentional HBP of the series.

        Still… Hitting batters, especially on purpose, while a baseball tradition, has ruined some careers. I’d rather get revenge by curly W’s and show ‘nerve’ by taking walks.

    • infideljack - May 31, 2015 at 8:15 PM

      Barrett does not have the composure to be in hi stress situations. Maybe they can work with him at AA. But he looks like a AAAA guy to me.
      Treinen combined with Thornton look like the 7th and 8th inning guys. Thornto has nearly 700 innings, and Trienen is just a cool hand Luke with super nasty stuff. Who can hit a 99 sinker that is located?
      The rest of the pen besides Storen, is doing OJT or is just chaff.

  140. Ghost of Steve M. - May 31, 2015 at 4:38 PM

    Matusz just nailed Asdrubal Cabrera in the oblique with 1st base open. Just chicken shiz.

    • Ghost of Steve M. - May 31, 2015 at 4:46 PM

      Good, they just singled in Souza. Rays up over the Oreos 9-5. You think the Nats have problems. The Oreos have their #5 and #6 starters well below Mendoza. Their #4 hitter at .226 and they are so desperate they start Delmon “No Glove” Young in RF.

  141. NatsLady - May 31, 2015 at 5:09 PM

    Just about 1/3 of the season. Rizzo would have a feel for what we got, but what we got is a lotta injuries.

    — Werth gone til August, and then who knows if he’ll have any power
    — Fister and Stras on the DL
    — RZim “managing” his plantar fasciatis
    — Harper and Span bruised, hopefully not serious
    — Haven’t seen Rendon yet

    Bench seems to be performing adequately (not great), bullpen is having a bad run of it due to overuse and inexperience. But up until the last three days, we had a great five weeks. It will be interesting to see what moves Rizzo makes, and when.

    • nataddicted - May 31, 2015 at 8:46 PM

      NL: “Bench seems to be performing adequately”

      I’ve been on the Clint Robinson bandwagon since I saw him in March, playing a lot in Right, and scalding the ball. Didn’t watch this game (radio, lovely trip to Dulles to pickup a 3:30 arrival), but I think he hit the ball hard but into some tough luck today. My Request: More please of Mr. Robinson.

      • nataddicted - May 31, 2015 at 8:48 PM

        Sorry, Gosh I wish I could edit…

        Another Bench note: It seems like I’m the only one who thought Lobaton took a couple of hard ones off his throwing hand last night. Maybe Mark could ask a question about that tomorrow?

  142. Theophilus T.S. - May 31, 2015 at 5:31 PM

    Bob Hope’s daughter once told me the secret to his mental sharpness far into his old age was ginko biloba. Suggest Rizzo buy enough for everybody.

  143. David Proctor - May 31, 2015 at 6:11 PM

    You know it’s not your series when you start walking the opposing team on 3 balls.

    • AlexandriaNatFan - May 31, 2015 at 6:34 PM

      Lol. That about sums it up! Come home, sleep it off and hit the ground running tomorrow night, boys!

    • Toot D. Blan - May 31, 2015 at 7:18 PM

      That is totally reviewable. Were Matt Williams and his staff asleep at the wheel there, or had they already checked out?

      • nataddicted - May 31, 2015 at 8:55 PM

        Ummm, could this be part of the umpire’s debrief via wire from NY today please?

        Oh. Wait. Nobody tells those fellas they, um, goof, every game at least [cough] once.

        No jive, there’s a hookup already live, so why not take three minutes after each game for the umps to chat with the NY crew to get a tip or two. Ya, know what, I just opened my fifth wine cooler!

        Blue will always be a wildcard on this roller-coaster!

        I would hope there was something said to them also about the In-The-Box heave-ho!

    • manassasnatsfan - May 31, 2015 at 9:25 PM

      I was yelling it was only 3. People around me thought I was nuts. Which I was thinking we could win a 10th straight series.

      The execution of the bullpen as pitchers was bad enough, but as fielders they were even worse.

  144. David Proctor - May 31, 2015 at 6:51 PM

    Bochy just stuck with his closer despite Casilla melting down. Had Lopez warm for the lefty, but didn’t bring him in. 4 runs score in the inning and Braves are going to win.

  145. Mrsb loves the Nats - May 31, 2015 at 7:08 PM

    Pence flies out….

    Braves closer threw 3 pitches in the same area to Panik…. 2 were called balls and the 3rd strike…

    Really leaning towards machines calling balls/strikes…

    • nataddicted - May 31, 2015 at 9:03 PM

      Mrsb: “Really leaning towards machines calling balls/strikes…”

      Part of me feels the same.

      But… It’ll be like drag racing. 42,000 people watching for a red or green light.

      Of course, I hate umpires judging ball/strike calls, and check swings, review ’em all!

      Maybe it would have the effect of bringing back the high strike. Sometimes I hate to admit it but I watched a lot of games Jim Palmer pitched. (‘Cakes, we called him for eating pancakes on game day.) And he loved that high fastball. Sent a lot of guys back to the bench with that pitch.

      I hope I die soon.

      • nataddicted - May 31, 2015 at 9:05 PM

        PS. Even though I ain’t dead yet, I’ve bled all that orange out of my system.

  146. nattygoats - May 31, 2015 at 8:29 PM

    Although I love Rays insight on the awful hitting today, I sure mis FP

  147. Joe Seamhead - May 31, 2015 at 8:31 PM

    I left here earlier. I just read the blog. I guess I’ll just try to sell my tickets for ten cents on the dollar.

    Jeesh..

    • Ghost of Steve M. - May 31, 2015 at 9:44 PM

      Yah, it got brutal. Even some of the positive people went to the dark side. I fully expect Mark Grace has a 1 way ticket to meet up with Syracuse tomorrow.

  148. Doc - May 31, 2015 at 8:48 PM

    If Barrett catches that pop-up bunt, we get a DP. Instead, Hamilton gets to come home.

    I’m beginning to feel, along with other posters, that Barrett is always one pitch away from f****** up! Who is left in the minors for us if we send him down???? Where’s the Assassin when we need him?

    I also don’t think that Grace has big league stuff. Hitters are hitting about .350 against him.

  149. nataddicted - May 31, 2015 at 9:12 PM

    Who here would give 1.5M to put R Soriano in our pen?

    He’s looking for a job and if he want’s work then he’ll accept the pay scale.

    Maybe he’s blown out, every scout that wants to see him has seen all they want.

    Seemed to like being on the mound during an actual game.

    • manassasnatsfan - May 31, 2015 at 9:29 PM

      He couldn’t do worse than Barrett and Grace are doing and Janssen for that mayyrt.

      Where is HRod when we need him.

  150. veejh - May 31, 2015 at 11:53 PM

    Didn’t get to see any of this series (probably a good thing). My pops said the home plate umpiring was horrendous. What you guys think?

  151. Eric - Jun 1, 2015 at 12:28 AM

    nataddicted:

    I’m generally strongly opposed to beanings, retaliatory or otherwise.

    That said, 3 beanings in two games — two of them against a pitcher in one game for the first time since ’01 — had me feeling like a statement had to be made. The Reds are free to interprate it as, “your pitchers need better control” or “we won’t be intimidated endlessly.” Either way, I think it was as good a reason as any because, as you say, “Hitting batters…has ruined some careers.” (not to mention, killed a guy). The Nats are just as vulnerable to that as anyone else. And, I suspect accidental HBPs have affected careers as readily (or as unreadily, as the case may be) as intentional ones. I’m happy to consider stats to the contrary.

    At the end of the day, Harp and Gio were put at risk this weekend. Spines are critical to everyone’s success, and pitching elbows are critical to a pitcher’s success. I think it was reasonable to send a message to the Reds: tighten up and/or back off.

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