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Game 48: Nats at Reds

May 29, 2015, 3:51 PM EDT

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It’s probably not fair to say this about any start in late May, especially for a team that has won 21 of its last 27 games, but this sure feels like a really important start for Stephen Strasburg. He has failed to get out of the fourth inning three times in his last four outings. His ERA has skyrocketed to 6.50. And his confidence level (at least outwardly) appears at an all-time low.

The Nationals have intended all along to put Strasburg back on the mound every fifth day (barring a physical ailment) and hope he rights his ship by pitching well, not by taking time off. But eventually, he’s going to need to put together something resembling a quality start. And tonight, against a Reds lineup that doesn’t score many runs and strikes out a lot, would seem like a good opportunity to get on track.

Michael Taylor, meanwhile, starts in left field tonight, and the sense is that the rookie will get the most opportunities to fill in for Jayson Werth there, with Tyler Moore and Clint Robinson also in the mix. Taylor and the red-hot Nats lineup tonight face Cincinnati right-hander Anthony DeSclafini, who sports a 3.46 ERA but is walking 4 batters per 9 innings, a sky-high rate.

Unfortunately I’m not in Cincinnati for this weekend’s series, but please keep up the conversation here and check back in the morning for remote analysis…

WASHINGTON NATIONALS at CINCINNATI REDS
Where:
Great American Ball Park, Cincinnati
Gametime: 7:10 p.m. EDT
TV: MASN2, Ch. 9, MLB.tv
Radio: 106.7 FM, 1500 AM, XM 185/869
Weather: Chance of rain, 80 degrees, Wind 9 mph in from RF

NATIONALS (28-19)
CF Denard Span
SS Ian Desmond
3B Yunel Escobar
RF Bryce Harper
1B Ryan Zimmerman
C Wilson Ramos
2B Danny Espinosa
LF Michael Taylor
RHP Stephen Strasburg

REDS (19-27)
SS Zack Cozart
1B Joey Votto
3B Todd Frazier
RF Jay Bruce
C Brayan Peña
LF Marlon Byrd
2B Skip Schumaker
RHP Anthony DeSclafini
CF Billy Hamilton

UMPIRES
HP Jerry Meals (cc)
1B Andy Fletcher
2B Paul Emmel
3B Jordan Baker

258 Comments (Feed for Comments)
  1. Joe Seamhead - May 29, 2015 at 3:58 PM

    I kind of thought that there would be a chance of the Loboton starting tonight between Strasburg pitching and a chance to give Wilson an extra day off.

    • Bruxtun - May 29, 2015 at 4:07 PM

      Yeah they really haven’t been pairing Stras and Loby as often as I thought they would so far this year.

      • natsguy - May 29, 2015 at 4:11 PM

        Strasburg pitches better with Lobaton

    • virginiascopist - May 29, 2015 at 4:34 PM

      I was really hoping to see Lobaton tonight as well. Stras is clearly more comfortable when he’s behind the plate.

  2. wearenationals - May 29, 2015 at 3:58 PM

    GYFNG!

    • Eugene in Oregon - May 29, 2015 at 4:03 PM

      GYFNG!

  3. Doc - May 29, 2015 at 4:03 PM

    So when does our exalted NI Leader get to travel with the club?????

    I miss his road reports.

    • Eugene in Oregon - May 29, 2015 at 4:04 PM

      I think you want to talk with the CSN budget office.

      • ehay2k - May 29, 2015 at 4:34 PM

        Comcast blew so much money on the failed Time Warner merger that they really have to cut back somewhere!

      • nataddicted - May 29, 2015 at 6:13 PM

        They MUST be running short on funds, because, ya’ kno’, my cable bill is so small. [cough, cough]

      • conatsguy - May 29, 2015 at 6:29 PM

        Time to take up a collection for Mark! Just like the first year of Nats Insider. $100 bucks buys you a post game interview question 😎

      • Dannyellinosa - May 29, 2015 at 6:35 PM

        I would chip in my reward points on Southwest for Mark’s flights. Someone else have hotel rewards?

  4. Eugene in Oregon - May 29, 2015 at 4:06 PM

    So does make three teams that are batting the pitcher 8th? Anyone else doing it regularly?

  5. iconicwoodencap - May 29, 2015 at 4:10 PM

    I really hope Strasburg finds his Mojo tonight. It’s been painful to watch his struggles.

    I’m going to go out on a limb and predict a quality start . Go Stras!

    • Doc - May 29, 2015 at 4:32 PM

      We can only hope.

      Go Stras, Go Nats!!!!!!!!!!!!!

    • Hiram Hover - May 29, 2015 at 5:46 PM

      When Stras does find his mojo, I wonder how long it will take fans to acknowledge the fact?

  6. peewilly - May 29, 2015 at 4:40 PM

    I’m going to the P-Nats game and recording the Nats so please refrain from mentioning anything about the game in this game thread. Thank you.

    • ehay2k - May 29, 2015 at 4:48 PM

      We promise that we will not discuss the PNats game in this thread. :-p

      • Sec 3, My Sofa - May 29, 2015 at 6:03 PM

        I’m travelling and would appreciate a detailed play-by-play of this game.

  7. virginiascopist - May 29, 2015 at 4:47 PM

    Not related to tonight’s game, but it looks like we might not be facing Cueto on Sunday as expected. I don’t know how to embed a tweet, but it comes from Cincinnati Enquirer reporter C. Trent Rosecrans.

    • masterfishkeeper - May 29, 2015 at 4:58 PM

      Great find! seems like the Nats will see Lorenzen, who has struggled thus far. Would be nice to miss Cueto. Not that the Nats can’t beat good pitchers. . .

  8. David Proctor - May 29, 2015 at 4:48 PM

    I’m a little bit surprised from the previous threads that I’m pretty much the only one who thinks we need to make a move. I’m not saying sell the farm for a blockbuster. I’m just not sure I understand the logic of “the LFers have been terrible and the Nats are winning so they don’t need to upgrade LF.” At some point those obvious holes catch up with you.

    Furthermore, I’m not sure expecting Werth to return and immediately be himself is wise. This will be his third injury on that same wrist and he’s 36. Even if he returns to form, we could surely use someone to back him up next year when he will be 37.

    I’m okay with giving Michael Taylor first crack at it, but the guy is striking out 40% of the time. His average is down to .219. He’s been worth almost -1 WAR. How about a guy like Gerardo Parra or even Ben Revere? David DeJesus has been doing well for the Rays, though they probably wouldn’t sell him. A guy like that could be very helpful and won’t cost a lot.

    • natsguy - May 29, 2015 at 4:57 PM

      I agree with you and suspect much more is going on than we are aware.

    • masterfishkeeper - May 29, 2015 at 5:00 PM

      I’d be happy with acquiring a LHB for left field, but it all depends on the price.. Maybe trade Tyler Moore?

    • Joe Seamhead - May 29, 2015 at 5:12 PM

      DP, I don’t think that the Nats are the only team looking for a quality, good hitting outfielder. The Mets, of course , come to mind,as do the A’s [who incidentally now have Billy Burns starting in CF and he’s hitting .304/.356/.417 for them. Oh, Jerry Blevins, we hardly knew you].

      I digress. Revere and Span in the same OF seem kind of redundant, and I doubt that Amaro would trade him to the Nats anyway.

      As to DeJesus, you’re right, the Rays are probably not going to trade him.

      You might be able to “pry” Justin Maxwell from the Giants now that Pence is back, but if rumors are to be believed he’d have to go as soon as JDub got back. [just kidding. Nobody here wants Max, right, even if he did do a pretty good job while Hunter was out?]

      • langleyclub - May 29, 2015 at 5:49 PM

        Fans are always less patient that those that run teams. In the long run, well-run MLB teams are right far more often than fans. For example, the vast majority of fans had given up on Danny Espinosa long ago, and many had thought that Drew Storen could not be an adequate closer. How do those theories look now?

        No question that Taylor has been slumping lately, but he has also shown the talent that makes him an elite prospect and he could be a special MLB player. The Nats will give Taylor (and Ty Mo) an extended opportunity to establish themselves. If in a month, LF is a black hole offensively (and assuming Werth has not made dramatic progress), Rizzo will make a move if the price is right. If Taylor finds his groove, the Nats will have found a better option without losing a key prospect.

        The Nats very well make a move, but they have time to evaluate what fits their best present and future interests.

    • Hiram Hover - May 29, 2015 at 5:48 PM

      I share your concerns about MAT, and I think Rizzo may make a move.

      I think what many folks may not share is your sense of urgency about it.

    • Eugene in Oregon - May 29, 2015 at 5:56 PM

      If the Nats could turn some combination Tyler Moore, Clint Robinson, Matt den Dekker, and/or Nate McLouth into Gerardo Parra, I’d say ‘go for it’ — but I don’t see that happening. No one else — beyond Mr. Parra — who’s been mentioned strikes me as being a particularly compelling upgrade (and some seem like a step backwards).

      On the other hand, so long as the rest of the team keeps producing runs, why not take the opportunity presented to give Michael Taylor another six to eight weeks of a big league tryout? If there’s any serious consideration being given to trying to extend Denard Span (about which I’m doubtful, but acknowledge it’s a possibility), all the more reason to try to figure out whether Mr. Taylor could/should be his long-term replacement.

    • natsdial8 - May 29, 2015 at 6:10 PM

      No doubt Mike makes a move if he deems he needs to . To me it depends on his assessment of MAT/Moore fill in ability because he really is stretching to wait on Werth .

  9. nataddicted - May 29, 2015 at 5:35 PM

    Wow, Lots of stuff to digest on the o’le Nats Insider boards lately.

    I’m thankful the off day is behind us and we’ll get to see a ballgame in about ninety minutes.

    How many different guys have been on the 25 man roster this year? 33? 34? 35?

    • nataddicted - May 29, 2015 at 6:10 PM

      Answering my own question:

      Came Up – Went Down:
      Werth – Den Dekker 4/13
      Martin – Cedeno 4/14
      Jordan – Stammen 4/15
      Rivero – Jordan 4/16
      Span – Taylor 4/19
      Grace – Rivero 4/22
      Cole – Martin 4/28
      Solis – Cole 4/29
      Taylor (2nd time on roster, not count) – Johnson 4/29
      Cole (2) – Fister 5/15
      Difo – Werth 5/19
      Janssen – Solis 5/22
      Jordan (2) – Cole 5/24

      IF I got that right, that is 25 to start with, plus 10 new names, we’ve had 35 guys on the big-league roster this season.

      With all those moves, Tyler Moore and Clint Robinson haven’t budged an inch. Interesting…

      • Eugene in Oregon - May 29, 2015 at 6:13 PM

        Tyler Moore can’t, right? Without being exposed, I mean.

      • langleyclub - May 29, 2015 at 6:15 PM

        Correct. Tyler Moore can’t be sent down without exposing him to waivers…

      • nataddicted - May 29, 2015 at 6:23 PM

        Agreed about Moore, send him down and he’s gotta clear waivers to keep him.

  10. philipd763 - May 29, 2015 at 6:17 PM

    RZim, currently batting around .220, better start hitting or Bryce Harper isn’t going to see any decent pitches.

    • natsdial8 - May 29, 2015 at 6:25 PM

      He doesn’t see many now 🙂

      • ehay2k - May 29, 2015 at 6:28 PM

        And still he hits them!

    • Joe Seamhead - May 29, 2015 at 6:31 PM

      Batting average isn’t everything, though .220 is pretty bad, but here are the Nats RBI leaders:

      Harper-43
      RZimm- 32
      Ramos -21
      Span -15

      Desi, Escobar, and Espinosa tied-14

      Ryan is making them pay one way, or the other.

      • manassasnatsfan - May 30, 2015 at 12:04 AM

        Imagine if RZim batted his career batting average what his RBI total would be.

  11. nataddicted - May 29, 2015 at 6:38 PM

    Fresh news that nobody cares about, but thanks anyway!

    “James Wagner ‏@JamesWagnerWP5 minutes ago

    Rafael Soriano is leaving agent Scott Boras, per source familiar with the situation. He wants to sign with a team. He’s still a free agent”

    • nataddicted - May 29, 2015 at 6:40 PM

      Not as fresh, but I care a lot more…

      “James Wagner ‏@JamesWagnerWP 3 hours ago

      Anthony Rendon (oblique) begins his rehab assignment tonight. He’s playing second and hitting second for Class AA Harrisburg at Bowie.”

    • Eugene in Oregon - May 29, 2015 at 6:58 PM

      Interesting that he perceives that Scott Boras is either (a) somehow holding him back (asking for too much), or (b) not shopping him aggressively enough. Will be interesting to see if he signs quickly (and at a reduced price) with another agent. Or whether teams just aren’t into him anymore.

      • nataddicted - May 29, 2015 at 8:17 PM

        4M Should do it. Not much track record last year.

  12. kgwcoach - May 29, 2015 at 6:42 PM

    I’m comfortable with a mix of MAT TyMo and Clint in left field for the next month, because it helps keep bench bats active with a better chance of being successful later in the season when thats when they really need to be. I believe that better bench results would offset what we lose in LF for a month. IMO Rizzo is looking and will make a move when and if it truly is needed.

    MAT IMO is a good athlete, that isn’t yet a “Ballplayer” and may never be one. But there are times where one can learn more baseball sitting on the bench playing part time for a good team than playing every day on a weaker team. I believe this is that time for MAT, and currently the NATs can afford to let him work on his issues at the Major league level. His development over the rest of the season determines what Rizzo will be willing to spend to keep Span.

  13. stoatva - May 29, 2015 at 6:56 PM

    When did RZim last have a day off? Anyone know?

    • NatsLady - May 29, 2015 at 7:00 PM

      Zim’s played every game (left early a couple times), as has Desi.

    • Eugene in Oregon - May 29, 2015 at 7:00 PM

      Yesterday. And twice last week. But in game terms, he’s started all 47 of the Nats’ games.

      • Eugene in Oregon - May 29, 2015 at 7:11 PM

        Sorry, that came out snarkier than I meant it.

    • natsdial8 - May 29, 2015 at 7:01 PM

      Z one tough guy!

  14. Steady Eddie - May 29, 2015 at 7:02 PM

    Rendon with a line drive single in the first.

  15. NatsLady - May 29, 2015 at 7:07 PM

    The Cubs’ bullpen just blew up. I didn’t realize they had the Royals after us. Tough schedule for them.

    • Bruxtun - May 29, 2015 at 7:10 PM

      And then they have us again

  16. Joe Seamhead - May 29, 2015 at 7:20 PM

    Nuts. Wish that they started Strasburg off with a lead. Oh, well.

  17. Danny - May 29, 2015 at 7:25 PM

    Lol

    • rlndtln - May 29, 2015 at 7:25 PM

      Stras is batting practice

  18. Ghost of Steve M. - May 29, 2015 at 7:25 PM

    Fastball up. Votto doesn’t miss. Only thing that missed was Strasburg’s location.

    • Allnats - May 29, 2015 at 7:26 PM

      According to pitchtrack, that pitch was actually down. Votto just put a good swing on it

      • Ghost of Steve M. - May 29, 2015 at 7:30 PM

        Pitchtrack is about as accurate as my 1st marriage. Check the official F/X tonight.

      • Joe Seamhead - May 29, 2015 at 7:33 PM

        I think your wrong on this one, Steve.Up? It looked to be on the inside lower corner.Votto did a great job with it. I’m not sticking up for SS very often, but give the hitter credit.

      • masterfishkeeper - May 29, 2015 at 7:46 PM

        I agree: the pitch was down.

  19. manassasnatsfan - May 29, 2015 at 7:25 PM

    FYi Cun fans are much more friendly than Red fans who are very obnoxious.

    They are very crude.

    Cub fans really enjoyed Harper. These one are cursing like sailors at Harper.

    Strasburg 0-2 and gives up a homer. Some things don’t change.

    • rlndtln - May 29, 2015 at 7:26 PM

      fastball does not move

  20. manassasnatsfan - May 29, 2015 at 7:35 PM

    0-2 to a walk. Total lack of focus

  21. AlexandriaNatFan - May 29, 2015 at 7:37 PM

    Someone please tell Strasburg that he’s not helping anyone by not being honest about being hurt. He needs to stop being whiny every start and just take time off to get right.

  22. rlndtln - May 29, 2015 at 7:38 PM

    there goes the world series

    • rlndtln - May 29, 2015 at 7:39 PM

      at least we have a chance with him out and down only 1-0

  23. Danny - May 29, 2015 at 7:38 PM

    Now the BP is going to get abused. Thanks Steve.

    • Ghost of Steve M. - May 29, 2015 at 7:39 PM

      Which Steve?

    • Eugene in Oregon - May 29, 2015 at 7:46 PM

      Taylor Jordan should be able to give them a lot of innings — at least in terms of pitch count and such.

  24. manassasnatsfan - May 29, 2015 at 7:38 PM

    0-2 to a walk. Total lack of focus

    but they claim injury, which I don’t believe.

    This all the same stuff we have seen all months.

  25. Ghost of Steve M. - May 29, 2015 at 7:38 PM

    Keep telling us Strasburg is healthy. This is unreal.

  26. janebeard - May 29, 2015 at 7:39 PM

    Mark was right…really important start for Stras. I hope that Taylor has his stuff. And that the Strasburg trip to the DL is enough to help him get right.

  27. conatsguy - May 29, 2015 at 7:40 PM

    This is too wierd..
    His mechanics are messing up his body.

    • rlndtln - May 29, 2015 at 7:44 PM

      0-2 right down the middle

      • rlndtln - May 29, 2015 at 7:44 PM

        Treinen is the only guy to replace Stras

  28. Mrsb loves the Nats - May 29, 2015 at 7:44 PM

    Following on GameDay since I’m not in the area. What happened to SS?

    • adcwonk - May 29, 2015 at 7:48 PM

      Ditto — what’s going on? Pulled after one batter in the second? Injury? What??

    • masterfishkeeper - May 29, 2015 at 7:49 PM

      We don’t know. He motioned to the dugout, the trainer, McCarthy, and MW visited and took him out.. Strasburg looked very upset.

      • masterfishkeeper - May 29, 2015 at 7:51 PM

        That is, Strasburg seemed upset about whatever was bothering him, not with being removed.

      • adcwonk - May 29, 2015 at 7:56 PM

        He initiated his coming out?

        That can’t be good.

      • Eric - May 29, 2015 at 8:01 PM

        Yikes…

      • masterfishkeeper - May 29, 2015 at 8:03 PM

        Yes, I think he initiated it.

      • Joe Seamhead - May 29, 2015 at 8:14 PM

        Even before MW and McCatty came out it looked like he signaled to Ramos that he was done.

  29. Joe Seamhead - May 29, 2015 at 7:49 PM

    Great job by Taylor Jordon getting out of that mess.

    Mrsb, Strasburg basically seemed to turn into a puddle of poop. Not real sure what ails him this time. He just seemed totally discombobulated and uncomfortable.

    • manassasnatsfan - May 29, 2015 at 8:05 PM

      Jordan escapes2 base runners.

  30. manassasnatsfan - May 29, 2015 at 8:00 PM

    lately Strasburg seems to suck the wind out of the Nats. Hopefully Jordan will pitch better.

    • Eugene in Oregon - May 29, 2015 at 8:03 PM

      Nice empathy for someone who seemed to be injured.

      • Joe Seamhead - May 29, 2015 at 8:17 PM

        Don’t worry, Eugene, I’d say they probably aren’t going to have Strasburg to kick around for awhile.

      • Hiram Hover - May 29, 2015 at 8:28 PM

        +1.

        Some real nastiness here tonight.

      • manassasnatsfan - May 30, 2015 at 12:09 AM

        Didn’t look injured when he pitch to Votto.

        But all season he has look bad. It’s like the boy who cried wolf. Hard to have empathy.

    • adcwonk - May 29, 2015 at 8:13 PM

      What, the Nats have never come back from 1-0 before?

      • NatsNut - May 29, 2015 at 9:18 PM

        +1

  31. AlexandriaNatFan - May 29, 2015 at 8:09 PM

    Does Votto look like he’s lost a bunch of weight?

    • dryw4nats - May 29, 2015 at 8:11 PM

      Charlie and Dave commented on it emphatically.

      • AlexandriaNatFan - May 29, 2015 at 8:14 PM

        Interesting. Yeah he looks a lot skinnier than he has in the past. He can obviously still hit but it was striking to me.

  32. natslive - May 29, 2015 at 8:15 PM

    I hope Strasburg is not seriously injured but if he has an injury of any kind I think at this point he should go on the DL to rest and have it heal rather than try to tough it out and make it worse.

    • AlexandriaNatFan - May 29, 2015 at 8:16 PM

      +1

      • Joe Seamhead - May 29, 2015 at 8:21 PM

        Nice catch by Span, and on the one before that one Taylor did a good job deferring to Span on the ball hit to left center. I would like to see more communication like that between the outfielders.

  33. AlexandriaNatFan - May 29, 2015 at 8:15 PM

    DenDekker is an interesting option for OF – not sure how reliable he’s been hitting wise but….

  34. veejh - May 29, 2015 at 8:16 PM

    So, I seriously doubt all of a sudden Stras is injured. I sure seems that something HAS been wrong and he hasn’t been saying anything. I don’t get why players do this. It really is just detrimental to the team.

  35. Eric - May 29, 2015 at 8:21 PM

    Joe’s description that Stras collapsed into a puddle has me “hoping” it was “just” that his sprained ankle buckled on him. Really hope it’s not his arm or shoulder.

  36. Ghost of Steve M. - May 29, 2015 at 8:22 PM

    Time to smash DeSclafani. Enough with making this guy look good.

    • Ghost of Steve M. - May 29, 2015 at 8:24 PM

      That’s a start. Nice double Buffalo!!!!

  37. veejh - May 29, 2015 at 8:25 PM

    unproductive out. come on Espi, got to get him to 2nd.

    • veejh - May 29, 2015 at 8:25 PM

      3rd

  38. conatsguy - May 29, 2015 at 8:28 PM

    Nice AB

  39. natsjackinfl - May 29, 2015 at 8:29 PM

    Rendon is 1-4 with 3 K’s Tonight.

  40. veejh - May 29, 2015 at 8:30 PM

    we’ll take a little luck there. nice.

  41. conatsguy - May 29, 2015 at 8:31 PM

    That bunt was going foul? We’ll take it!

    • veejh - May 29, 2015 at 8:33 PM

      It actually stopped rolling right at the edge of the grass.

  42. Ghost of Steve M. - May 29, 2015 at 8:32 PM

    I agree with Ray. What type of lead was that for Ramos. Right in front of the 3rd base coach.

    • Joe Seamhead - May 29, 2015 at 8:39 PM

      Agreed, but you have to also wonder what Bob Hendley was doing. I think any other position player on the team scores on that play.

      • Ghost of Steve M. - May 29, 2015 at 8:41 PM

        Ridiculous. I’m glad Ray pointed it out. What was he 5 feet off the bag? Henley sleeping over there. Scherzer would have been off 10 feet then taken a secondary lead.

      • manassasnatsfan - May 30, 2015 at 12:11 AM

        Did Ray do color tonight?

  43. natsjackinfl - May 29, 2015 at 8:34 PM

    What a clutch hit by Desmond.

  44. AlexandriaNatFan - May 29, 2015 at 8:35 PM

    1) Bunting is not that difficult (Ray Knight). Amen to that. Get it down guys. Good god.

    2) Baserunning. Secondary leads. Fundamentals. Please.

    • rlndtln - May 29, 2015 at 8:38 PM

      Funny what can happen when you bunt.

  45. veejh - May 29, 2015 at 8:40 PM

    Dayum, Votto looks like a skeleton compared to his old look.

  46. Ghost of Steve M. - May 29, 2015 at 8:45 PM

    Taylor Jordan is squeezing that ball too hard. His sinker has become a stinker. Lucky none of them left the yard. I think you watch him next inning with a quick hook.

    • nats128 - May 29, 2015 at 8:58 PM

      Good call as usual. Now you saw it but why doesnt the Manager and pitching coach see it.

      • Ghost of Steve M. - May 29, 2015 at 9:00 PM

        Well nobody was up loose for a quick hook. Even that shot to RZim was a shot.

    • nattygoats - May 29, 2015 at 9:08 PM

      So why didn’t MW pinch hit with bases loaded?

      • Ghost of Steve M. - May 29, 2015 at 9:12 PM

        You want to see if TJord got his stuff back in the 6th and like I said short hook as he had only thrown 61 pitches to that point I believe.

        Nobody was warming and you could see quickly he didn’t have it.

        In my opinion you can’t let that happen.

      • manassasnatsfan - May 30, 2015 at 12:13 AM

        Only 61 pitches, but no action for two week. I was displeased at the stadium then.

  47. scnatsfan - May 29, 2015 at 8:47 PM

    No matter if his stats have been horrid you have to hate it for SS. Probably tried to gut something out. Let’s hope for good news, not as a fan of the team but for the fine young guy he is.

    • Joe Seamhead - May 29, 2015 at 8:55 PM

      Hey! No nice sentiments allowed when referring to Strasburg. (Seriously, thanks for your good Ju-Ju).

    • masterfishkeeper - May 29, 2015 at 9:05 PM

      +1

  48. veejh - May 29, 2015 at 8:48 PM

    Helluva slide Zim!

    • nats128 - May 29, 2015 at 8:57 PM

      +1 shows a good baseball IQ

      • Joe Seamhead - May 29, 2015 at 9:00 PM

        One of the best slides and plate touches you’ll ever see.

  49. Ghost of Steve M. - May 29, 2015 at 8:49 PM

    The Buffalo with key RISP!!!! What a touch of the plate by RZim on a great throw by Hamilton on the money.

    • Ghost of Steve M. - May 29, 2015 at 8:51 PM

      Ray’s analysis is excellent. Pena moved back a step to receive the throw.

  50. veejh - May 29, 2015 at 9:00 PM

    Helluva a throw by MAT. Can’t believe Ramos couldn’t hang on to that……actually, not really

  51. natsjackinfl - May 29, 2015 at 9:02 PM

    That throw goes 2 more feet or is 2 feel shorter it’s a great play.

    • Eugene in Oregon - May 29, 2015 at 9:03 PM

      +1

    • Joe Seamhead - May 29, 2015 at 9:09 PM

      Agreed. Great tries by Taylor and by Hamilton the play before. Of course, I believe more in the Juan Lagares technique on throws to the plate.But both were great efforts.

      • Joe Seamhead - May 29, 2015 at 9:17 PM

        If. If.If…if Taylor bounces that throw in 2 feet further back and if Ramos could’ve held on and made the tag? It would have been the 3rd out and the Nats would still have a 2-1 lead.

  52. NatsNut - May 29, 2015 at 9:06 PM

    Ok, I’ve been casually listening to the game with Charlie and Dave and there are just too many combos of the names “taylor”and “jordan.” Between those two names counting as both first and last names, plus the two Zimmermen(n), this team’s roster is not built for radio!

    • Eugene in Oregon - May 29, 2015 at 9:10 PM

      10 years ago you could go to a Saturday morning soccer game in Arlington, yell ‘Taylor” and half the kids would look up. Yell ‘Jordan’ and you’d get the other half.

      • nattygoats - May 29, 2015 at 9:17 PM

        3

      • Joe Seamhead - May 29, 2015 at 9:21 PM

        That’s hilarious,Eugene!

      • rlndtln - May 29, 2015 at 9:23 PM

        Mets lose

  53. Ghost of Steve M. - May 29, 2015 at 9:06 PM

    Per my comments last inning, you could see TJord was losing it. How couldn’t MW and Cat see it? MW with the slow hook. What did you gain? 1 extra batter? This is what drives me crazy. You could see last inning he lost it. After that walk he needed to be pulled.

    • nats128 - May 29, 2015 at 9:08 PM

      Sigh.

      • nats128 - May 29, 2015 at 9:09 PM

        2-1 lead turns into a 4-2 deficit. Unnecssary.

    • nattygoats - May 29, 2015 at 9:10 PM

      Why wasn’t the pitcher pinch hit for with bases loaded?

      • Ghost of Steve M. - May 29, 2015 at 9:13 PM

        You want to see if TJord got his stuff back in the 6th and like I said short hook as he had only thrown 61 pitches to that point I believe.

        Nobody was warming and you could see quickly he didn’t have it.

        In my opinion you can’t let that happen.

  54. Tyler Babip - May 29, 2015 at 9:08 PM

    Anyone listening to Charlie and Dave notice that they are calling it “Great American Ballpark” but not “THE Great American Ballpark”?

    Maybe a little protest against the stupidest stadium name in MLB?

    Also, I hope Stras gets better fast. Also, it is good to see Taylor Jordan again. A little ragged around the edges, maybe, but he seems game.

    • Eugene in Oregon - May 29, 2015 at 9:19 PM

      Isn’t the ‘Great American’ a brand of hot dogs or something? Just selling the naming rights?

      • Tyler Babip - May 29, 2015 at 9:20 PM

        Oh thank goodness. I thought they were just full of themselves.

    • Theophilus T.S. - May 29, 2015 at 9:47 PM

      Great American is an insurance co. w/ naming rights.

      • Eugene in Oregon - May 29, 2015 at 10:20 PM

        That’s it. Sorry for any confusion.

  55. scnatsfan - May 29, 2015 at 9:09 PM

    Barrett impresses me less and less the more I see him

  56. manassasnatsfan - May 29, 2015 at 9:10 PM

    just won $10when Byrd walked I bet Red fan he would score.

    He said no way we are terrible.

    • Ghost of Steve M. - May 29, 2015 at 9:14 PM

      The art of positive thinking for the other team. I don’t get it because I never bet against the Nats.

      • manassasnatsfan - May 30, 2015 at 12:16 AM

        I only bet what I feel at the time. Intuition has always worked.

        My point was Jordan was already laboring. Couldn’t believe MW didn’t pinch hit for him.

  57. ogremj - May 29, 2015 at 9:13 PM

    It’s hard to trust any of our young relievers.

  58. manassasnatsfan - May 29, 2015 at 9:14 PM

    Aaron Barrett has been terrible on midwest trip.

    game tying homer to Bryant

    RBI single to Cozart

    Vitto K

    that is bad for facing only 3 guys.

    Did Ramos drop the ball before Byrd hit him?

    • Joe Seamhead - May 29, 2015 at 9:20 PM

      I thought he never had total control of it. It was a tough hop.

      If. If.If…if Taylor bounces that throw in 2 feet further back and if Ramos could’ve held on and made the tag? It would have been the 3rd out and the Nats would still have a 2-1 lead.

      • manassasnatsfan - May 30, 2015 at 12:18 AM

        The ball was there in plenty of time. I was shocked when ump gave safe sign until I realized Ramos didn’t catch the ball.

        He has trouble with anything but pure hops it seems.

  59. nattygoats - May 29, 2015 at 9:15 PM

    With Roark now moving to the rotation the bullpen is really weak.

    • veejh - May 29, 2015 at 9:17 PM

      Really? Weak? Mets bullpen the previous 2 years was weak. We’re far from weak.

      • nattygoats - May 29, 2015 at 9:22 PM

        Minus Storen and now Roark, yes weak and unreliable.

      • veejh - May 29, 2015 at 9:25 PM

        What? Jannsen has been a great addition. Even though it’s been a short sample size, he looks legit.

    • Ghost of Steve M. - May 29, 2015 at 9:20 PM

      It’s a man short. It’s not weak. Actually been a strength.

  60. veejh - May 29, 2015 at 9:16 PM

    OK, 2 innings to get this done.

  61. Ghost of Steve M. - May 29, 2015 at 9:19 PM

    Mets lose. Thank you Fish.

    • veejh - May 29, 2015 at 9:22 PM

      Equally important this time of year, the O’s and Rays are tied in the top of the 9th.

      • nattygoats - May 29, 2015 at 9:26 PM

        Why is that important? Who cares about American League? It’s not baseball

      • veejh - May 29, 2015 at 9:27 PM

        I guess you missed my point.

      • Ghost of Steve M. - May 29, 2015 at 9:29 PM

        Bases loaded and no outs and Souza comes up and the Oreos broadcasters are calling him Soza. Souza K’d. Asdrubal K’d.

      • Joe Seamhead - May 29, 2015 at 9:33 PM

        Sousa had a homer earlier.

  62. nattygoats - May 29, 2015 at 9:20 PM

    Mets lose

  63. nattygoats - May 29, 2015 at 9:24 PM

    Barret not good, Grace tried to poop away Maxs great game recently. YES KINDA WEAK minus Drew.

  64. veejh - May 29, 2015 at 9:26 PM

    I’m so happy I’ve never taken a 90mph pitch to my backside.

  65. ogremj - May 29, 2015 at 9:28 PM

    For Ramos forearm shiver?

  66. Ghost of Steve M. - May 29, 2015 at 9:28 PM

    I hope Ryan Zimmerman has a 3 run HR in him here.

    • manassasnatsfan - May 29, 2015 at 9:43 PM

      until Zimmerman picks up his game, I am clueless why anyone pitches to Harper.

      once Zim joins the hit brigade then Harper really can take off.

  67. Joe Seamhead - May 29, 2015 at 9:28 PM

    That was intentional,imo. Joey Votto is such a jerk.

    • nats128 - May 29, 2015 at 9:34 PM

      Clearly. Cingrani didnt want to walk him so he nailed him. Seen that movie before.

    • Eric - May 29, 2015 at 9:36 PM

      Yeah, wtf is Votto’s problem?

      • Joe Seamhead - May 29, 2015 at 9:44 PM

        Votto is the MLB equivalent of Sidney Crosby; a talented, but whiny brat.

  68. Mrsb loves the Nats - May 29, 2015 at 9:29 PM

    Hoping Ryan gets on track sooner rather than later…

  69. Joe Seamhead - May 29, 2015 at 9:31 PM

    OK, which one of you hit the Word Press shuffle button?
    SWM, every time you come on this seems to happen.

    • Mrsb loves the Nats - May 29, 2015 at 9:33 PM

      I knew he got banned…. always wondered what for… but I feel like I should let sleeping dogs lie…

      • nattygoats - May 29, 2015 at 9:37 PM

        Don’t know SWM is and I don’t appreciate the accusations if it’s someone who was banned. Seems that anyone who is a little negative gets talked down to here. Rather immature and closed minded don’t you thin?

      • veejh - May 29, 2015 at 9:41 PM

        previous poster who was ALWAYS negative. maybe change your tone, and those kinds of accusations won’t be made. It’s ok to be critical, but not all the time.

      • Eric - May 29, 2015 at 9:45 PM

        goats and Secret Wasian Man have both told almost the exact same story about a terrible encounter in Camden Yards in I believe ’13.

        Could be just a coincidence. Could be a failed attempt to remain down low. Who knows.

  70. veejh - May 29, 2015 at 9:32 PM

    What is up w Treinen and Barrett? Come on guys.

    • nattygoats - May 29, 2015 at 9:34 PM

      They are WEAK

      • veejh - May 29, 2015 at 9:36 PM

        Not really. They both have excellent stuff. Not sure why they always seem to give up runs.

  71. Mrsb loves the Nats - May 29, 2015 at 9:32 PM

    0 seems as if no news on SS… hope they just DL him, give him some time to think and breathe and work on whatever it is that is causing him issues…

    • Joe Seamhead - May 29, 2015 at 9:37 PM

      I’m thinking with Strasburg that he is really injured, probably has been, but it’s something that has gone undiagnosed.

      • Mrsb loves the Nats - May 29, 2015 at 9:43 PM

        IF that’s the case, Jay gets 10 mil blog points… as how does the medical team have yet another miss…

      • manassasnatsfan - May 29, 2015 at 10:04 PM

        our medical staff misses a lot

  72. Joe Seamhead - May 29, 2015 at 9:34 PM

    I really miss Craig Stammen.

    • Mrsb loves the Nats - May 29, 2015 at 9:38 PM

      Yeah….. when u saw Taylor Jordan go in, I was thinking the same thing…

      Nothing against Taylor

  73. ogremj - May 29, 2015 at 9:34 PM

    Byrd giving Frazier daps. Think the beaning and byrd’s slide into Ramos are related.

  74. manassasnatsfan - May 29, 2015 at 9:37 PM

    Only mote irritating than the way Barret and Treinan coming in is the jerk behind me continuing to say Harper sucks.

    Asked him he would trade anyone for him and ge said no.

    i then told thevguy he might suck, but that is better than being stupid, as Harper much better than anyone on tge Reds.

    he said look at the scoreboard.

    i said look at the standings.

    Cub fans were great, Red fans obnozious.

  75. mnmindc - May 29, 2015 at 9:44 PM

    I find the handling of this Stras situation to be very strange. It’s obvious that something isn’t right, whether physical or otherwise, and it’s hard to watch him go through this. Remember a few weeks ago when he looked hurt and the Nats waited a few innings before pulling him? Then the team kept insisting he was healthy, perfectly fine, and yet in one of his post-game interviews, he was asked how his back was and he said something like “good enough” as though he didn’t think he was perfectly fine. Anyway, it reminded me of an interview McCatty did on MLB network back in late 2013. He was asked about Stras, and his comments are below. What surprised me at the time was his suggestion that sometimes Stras wanted to come out of the game and the team felt he needed to work through things and stay in the game. It makes me wonder if the team doesn’t trust him on if he’s really hurt and/or maybe Stras has felt he can’t admit that he’s hurt because he feels the team just expects him to work through it. Quote is below:

    “Strassy is a great kid. He’s very quiet. He’s not a guy that loves the press a lot — let’s just put it this way… he’s really quiet and reserved. But when we talk a lot, he wants to pitch. And he gets mad at me and he’ll get mad at Davey for taking him out, but… and he wants to be out there. But still, it’s gotta be the right situations. There are some times where we got into it where he didn’t like coming out and he didn’t like being left in and I told him, I said, ‘Well, here’s part of it. You can’t have it both ways. You’ve got to learn how to pitch. You’ve got to get through those tough innings if you want to win ballgames — and I know there’s some question whether wins are important and you’re talking to the wrong guy about that for a starting pitcher — you’ve got to get to the seventh and eighth inning. You have to learn how to do it. And I can tell him and other guys can tell and they know, but it has to be — the physical thing and the mental thing when you’re out there that third and fourth time through the lineup to get through it.”

    • Joe Seamhead - May 29, 2015 at 10:07 PM

      Agree that that was an odd interview with McCatty.

    • Joe Seamhead - May 29, 2015 at 10:07 PM

      Agree that that was an odd interview with McCatty.

  76. Joe Seamhead - May 29, 2015 at 9:47 PM

    Terrible call on Taylor. The kid is struggling plenty all on his own.

  77. Ghost of Steve M. - May 29, 2015 at 9:48 PM

    A 3 pitch see you later to Michael Taylor. 3 pitch was inside but yah. 1 for his last 22.

    • Ghost of Steve M. - May 29, 2015 at 9:50 PM

      Uggla continues to work some impressive at-bats. It’s a walk and you’ll take it.

  78. Hiram Hover - May 29, 2015 at 9:49 PM

    MAT had a couple right down the middle there. Not bueno.

    • Ghost of Steve M. - May 29, 2015 at 9:51 PM

      One mistake pitch for sure. Can’t miss those.

  79. veejh - May 29, 2015 at 9:50 PM

    nice AB Uggles

  80. nattygoats - May 29, 2015 at 9:51 PM

    Tyler More time.

  81. nats128 - May 29, 2015 at 9:53 PM

    Can Cingrani make a mistake pitch here to Denard. He made one to Taylor who swung thru it.

    • Ghost of Steve M. - May 29, 2015 at 9:56 PM

      A XBH here to Desi would be timely.

      • veejh - May 29, 2015 at 9:58 PM

        missed one right down the middle…..ugh

      • Ghost of Steve M. - May 29, 2015 at 9:58 PM

        Missed 2. Don’t miss a 3rd.

  82. veejh - May 29, 2015 at 9:54 PM

    We have a baseball game.

  83. AlexandriaNatFan - May 29, 2015 at 9:55 PM

    Been away for a bit so missed the Votto-Cingrani thing — what happened with that? Hit batter on purpose or something?

  84. coop202 - May 29, 2015 at 9:57 PM

    This would be a swell time for desi to prove my loyalty right

    • AlexandriaNatFan - May 29, 2015 at 10:00 PM

      Unbelievable. Ray is so right about his swings being obnoxiously and unnecessarily big. Just put it in play dude. Single. Base hit. Sigh.

    • rlndtln - May 29, 2015 at 10:00 PM

      That was the worst ab of the year.Desi was swinging for the fences and pulling off terribly.He just does not have it when it counts.

      • nattygoats - May 29, 2015 at 10:04 PM

        Yeah I won’t miss that guy.

  85. veejh - May 29, 2015 at 9:59 PM

    Dayum, 3 pitches right down the middle. Blah.

  86. Mrsb loves the Nats - May 29, 2015 at 10:00 PM

    Sigh Desi….. sigh…

  87. Hiram Hover - May 29, 2015 at 10:01 PM

    Dammit, Desi. You just need to hit the ball–not hit the ball to Kentucky.

  88. nattygoats - May 29, 2015 at 10:01 PM

    No heroes tonight. Ughh. Desi trying for the Salami

  89. richardp6 - May 29, 2015 at 10:04 PM

    Curious if the batting coach tells Desi to just make contact in this situation or as professionals they don’t do that. it was so predictable that he would overswing. What is Desi thinking when he does that? His new contract?

    • nattygoats - May 29, 2015 at 10:06 PM

      What is sad is that the majority of fans knew that was coming

    • manassasnatsfan - May 30, 2015 at 12:24 AM

      I believe the hitting coach says nothing, but what would hurt to actually say, “Relax and get a hit.”

  90. AlexandriaNatFan - May 29, 2015 at 10:04 PM

    Rendon on track to come back during Blue Jays or Cubs series.

    • veejh - May 29, 2015 at 10:10 PM

      Finally. Sheesh.

  91. scnatsfan - May 29, 2015 at 10:06 PM

    When he connects is great but damn I wish Desi would learn to shorten his swing there. Maybe next year whatever NY team signs him will teach him.

    • manassasnatsfan - May 30, 2015 at 12:25 AM

      Two strikes and still swinging for the fences with no control.

      All three were very hittable pitches.

  92. nattygoats - May 29, 2015 at 10:10 PM

    Would hate to have the series streak end against a team 7 games below .500

    • conatsguy - May 29, 2015 at 10:19 PM

      More games to play. Don’t go into a funk already..Dang

    • manassasnatsfan - May 30, 2015 at 12:26 AM

      Did we lose 2 tonight? I thought we lost 1.

  93. veejh - May 29, 2015 at 10:16 PM

    Did everyone just hear what Carp said right before the commercial? “Because of an injury, the Nats lose game 1 of the series.” LOL. I don’t think the loss had anything to do with Stras coming out.
    a) Stras has been horrible, had he completed his start, we probably would have lost anyways
    b) Horrible timing pulling TJ, he was spent
    c) Barrett and Treinen continue to give up runs
    d) Dez needs to choke up and get a single in that crucial spot. UGH!

  94. veejh - May 29, 2015 at 10:16 PM

    Did everyone just hear what Carp said right before the commercial? “Because of an injury, the Nats lose game 1 of the series.” LOL. I don’t think the loss had anything to do with Stras coming out.
    a) Stras has been horrible, had he completed his start, we probably would have lost anyways
    b) Horrible timing pulling TJ, he was spent
    c) Barrett and Treinen continue to give up runs
    d) Dez needs to choke up and get a single in that crucial spot. UGH!

    • coop202 - May 29, 2015 at 10:27 PM

      Desi was 2-5 on the game. I can’t watch unfortunately but hes getting way too much flack on this board this year. Would’ve loved a single there but that wasn’t the only opportunity we missed all game (first inning and no one is complaining about the Harper strike out). Hope stras finally goes on the dl for a bit. He’s a stud when he has his game with him despite what many commenters here say.

      • conatsguy - May 29, 2015 at 10:31 PM

        Agree. He had a crucial hit to tie the game earlier. He can’t do it all.

      • nattygoats - May 29, 2015 at 10:31 PM

        One of the 2 was a lucky infield hit. Guy doesn’t deliver in big spots. And with all the errors he should be buried here.

      • Joe Seamhead - May 29, 2015 at 10:36 PM

        Bless you, coop. Great perspective.

      • veejh - May 29, 2015 at 10:40 PM

        That’s fine, but it sure seems that Dez swings for the fences almost 100% of the time in those crucial spots. What, did Davey completely corrupt his brain when he told him to be himself? Come on, you’ve got to know at this point in your baseball career what the best odds are to help your team, and ALWAYS swinging for the fences is not the move.

  95. David Proctor - May 29, 2015 at 10:17 PM

    Play of the game was Ramos dropping the through from Taylor. Before Ghost gets on me, yes that was a very tough play. But if they can get the out there, it wipes 3 runs off the board.

    I found the offensive execution horrible all night. The offense has scored 4 runs only once in their last 8. The pitching has been really good so it’s masked some of that. Hopefully it gets back on track soon.

    • veejh - May 29, 2015 at 10:20 PM

      Agree. Ramos just isn’t very good at handling those tosses from the outfielders with running bearing down on him. It is what it is.

      • nattygoats - May 29, 2015 at 10:29 PM

        Very well said. Boys left a lot of runs on the field tonight.

      • richardp6 - May 30, 2015 at 8:55 AM

        Could Lobaton do better? We’re wasting some good arms in the outfield with Ramos’ drops. I am also picking up that the pitchers like throwing to Loboton as well. Used to be Ramos bat was a big discriminator but with his power down I m thinking they are starting to be evened up. Better BA, Slugging and OPS in an admittedly smaller sample size.

    • David Proctor - May 29, 2015 at 10:23 PM

      er, throw. Not through.

      • Joe Seamhead - May 29, 2015 at 10:28 PM

        Not sure where your post went to David Proctor, but I think that though the throw took a short hop, it was a playable ball. And in my mind it was the defining moment of the game.

      • David Proctor - May 29, 2015 at 10:30 PM

        I thought it was a very tough play, but one that I think most catchers make. Or at least make more frequently than Ramos, who never comes up with it unless it’s perfect. It’s frustrating.

    • Toot D. Blan - May 29, 2015 at 11:34 PM

      It was a great throw by Taylor. Right on line. As Ray pointed out, it was a tough hop for Ramos to field, but if he had come toward the throw just a bit it would have been a short hop, much easier to field, and he could have gotten the out. Conclusion? Ramos is just not very good at fielding throws to the plate. He can’t just stand there like a statue and expect the throw to come right at him.

    • Toot D. Blan - May 29, 2015 at 11:36 PM

      Two things you’ll never hear together: Gold Glove catcher and Wilson Ramos.

  96. veejh - May 29, 2015 at 10:38 PM

    More from Stras about not being hurt. This is getting old.

  97. Joe Seamhead - May 29, 2015 at 10:46 PM

    Just watched the post game interview with Stephen Strasburg. My honest take? I think the guy is having panic attacks and he’s tensing up and his pains and tightness are manifesting in different places. I, Dr. Seamhead, would prescribe a two week rehabilitation trip to Maho Bay on the Carribean island of St.John. The warm,clear water and white sand, along with a couple of rum Painkillers a day would cure what ails him.

    • veejh - May 29, 2015 at 10:49 PM

      Just put him on Xanax and call it a day.

    • AlexandriaNatFan - May 29, 2015 at 11:53 PM

      Yeah he looked like he was in shock. Literally. 😦

    • scmargenau - May 29, 2015 at 11:58 PM

      Yum, pusers pain killers

  98. manassasnatsfan - May 30, 2015 at 12:31 AM

    Was at the game the Stadium does not have the word “The” at the beginning. Checked it as I left the field.

    Was Ray Knight doing color.

    Fans in Cincinatti not near as hospitable as those at Wrigley. Very not impressed.

    Why was Harper tossed at. Look quite intentional, and fans cheered the pitcher. Was hoping Zim would make them pay, but alas he was not up to the task.

  99. TheBigDummy - May 30, 2015 at 3:42 AM

    I’m sorry, but what do these guys see in Taylor Jordan that makes them believers in his big league potential? Granted, they’re much smarter than I am and have more numbers and viewing to back it up, but I just don’t see it from this guy. I didn’t in ’13, I didn’t in ’14, and his showing here in ’15 doesn’t inspire confidence.

  100. richardp6 - May 30, 2015 at 8:29 AM

    Is it me or has Ramos dropped a bunch of balls on plays at home? Last night Taylor looked disgusted either at his own throw or Ramos dropping it. Is anyone else starting to think Lobaton ought to be #1 catcher?

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