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Game 28: Marlins at Nats

May 5, 2015, 3:29 PM EDT

Mark Zuckerman / NATS INSIDER

The Nationals haven’t won four games in a row since last September, but they’ll have a chance to do that tonight when they face the Marlins in the second game of this series, trying to build off last night’s dramatic, come-from-behind victory.

Stephen Strasburg gets the start, still seeking a level of consistency that so far has eluded him in 2015. The right-hander was fantastic against the Phillies 16 days ago, then struggled in Miami 10 days ago, then bounced back from a couple rough innings in New York five days ago to pitch quite effectively against the Mets.

Mat Latos starts for the Marlins, trying to duplicate his performance against the Nats last week in Miami when he held them to two runs over 6 1/3 innings. He’ll face a lineup that is without Jayson Werth tonight. Michael Taylor starts in left field in place of the veteran, who gets a needed day off after hitting .167 with a .203 slugging percentage to date.

Updates to come…

Nationals Park
Gametime: 7:05 p.m. EDT
Radio: 106.7 FM, XM 183
Weather: Chance of rain, 81 degrees, Wind 6 mph out to RF

CF Denard Span
3B Yunel Escobar
RF Bryce Harper
1B Ryan Zimmerman
C Wilson Ramos
SS Ian Desmond
2B Dan Uggla
LF Michael Taylor
RHP Stephen Strasburg

2B Dee Gordon
3B Martin Prado
RF Giancarlo Stanton
CF Marcell Ozuna
1B Justin Bour
C J.T. Realmuto
LF Ichiro Suzuki
SS Adeiny Hechavarria
RHP Mat Latos

HP Dan Iassogna
1B Ryan Blakney
2B Eric Cooper (cc)
3B Lance Barksdale

6:32 p.m. — Weather update: The start of tonight’s game is officially delayed by rain. We haven’t had much precipitation yet, but there’s more coming from the west. Stay tuned for updates.

6:55 p.m. — The Nats say the game should start at 7:30 p.m. 

7:33 p.m. — And we’re underway after a 28-minute rain delay that didn’t feature all that much rain, to be honest. Stephen Strasburg starts off Dee Gordon with a fastball for ball one.

7:47 p.m. — A scoreless first inning, though Strasburg did give up a 2-out single to Giancarlo Stanton before walking Marcell Ozuna. He also appeared to wince after throwing a couple of pitches. Not sure what that was about. His velocity is, and he hasn’t shown any other signs of physical problems. Something to keep an eye on, though.

8:06 p.m. — And sure enough, something still didn’t look right about Strasburg in the second inning. He gave up a pair of hits, plunked a batter on a wayward changeup and then bounced a throw to first base on what should’ve been a routine sac bunt play. Two runs wound up scoring and Strasburg got a mound visit from Matt Williams and trainer Lee Kuntz. He stayed in the game and even was able to jam Stanton and induce a flyball to end the inning. But he’s at 48 pitches and just doesn’t look right. 2-0 Marlins.

8:23 p.m. — The Nats got a run back in the bottom of the second, a rally ignited by a great at-bat from Ryan Zimmerman, who fouled off five straight 2-strike pitches before drawing a walk. He took third on Wilson Ramos’ double down the right-field line, then scored on Dan Uggla’s broken-bat dribbler. Michael Taylor, though, couldn’t get Ramos home from third. So it’s 2-1 Miami as Strasburg takes the mound for the third inning with all eyes on him.

8:38 p.m. — Strasburg got through a scoreless third, giving up a groundball single and a walk, but he also struck out Ozuna looking at a 95-mph fastball. But that’s it for him. Doug Fister (?!) pinch-hit for him to start the bottom of the third (and promptly singled to right, of course). Strasburg is done after three innings and 64 pitches. Sammy Solis enters for the top of the fourth, with the Nats trailing 2-1.

8:52 p.m. — A scoreless fourth for Solis, though only by the slimmest of margins. Stanton launched a ball over the foul pole and well back into the left-field bleachers, but it was ever so slightly foul. Crisis averted. Still 2-1 after four.

9:07 p.m. — Two scoreless innings for Solis so far. Unfortunately, the Nats haven’t done anything else against Latos, so it remains 2-1 through the fifth.

9:18 p.m. — Six innings down, and the Nats have managed just one run and two hits off Latos. That’s not going to get it done. Though Solis did his part to keep the deficit at 2-1, retiring 9 of 10 batters he faced during an impressive relief outing. To the seventh we go…

9:55 p.m. — The Nats had a chance in the bottom of the seventh, with a pair of walks issued by Latos and knocking him out of the game. But Nick Masset got Taylor to ground into a fielder’s choice at third, and then Dee Gordon made a nifty backhand diving stop of Clint Robinson’s sharp grounder to second, quashing that rally. Still 2-1 Miami heading to the eighth.

10:16 p.m. — Another scoreless innings in the books for the Nats lineup, which has two hits tonight, none since Fister’s pinch-hit single in the third. It’s been a frustrating night at the plate, to say the least. Heading to the ninth, still 2-1 Marlins.

10:40 p.m. — That’ll do it. The Nats go down in the ninth and lose a really frustrating game, 2-1. The winning streak ends at 3.

143 Comments (Feed for Comments)
  1. unterp - May 5, 2015 at 3:29 PM

    let’s go Nats…

    • Joe Seamhead - May 5, 2015 at 4:14 PM



    • adcwonk - May 5, 2015 at 4:30 PM

      + 14 !

    • natsfan1a - May 5, 2015 at 5:06 PM

      Get after it, fellas!

  2. Section 222 - May 5, 2015 at 4:23 PM

    Glad to hear that Werth is getting a rest, and that Uggla is getting a start. Just scored a cheap club seat on StubHub in case it rains. Sweet.

    • scnatsfan - May 5, 2015 at 4:29 PM

      I was hoping TyMo would get a start

      • bowdenball - May 5, 2015 at 4:34 PM

        Strasburg has had enough misfortune with the defensive play behind him. If Williams posted a lineup with T-Mo in left and Uggla at second Stras might have murdered the skipper.

      • Section 222 - May 5, 2015 at 11:41 PM

        Yeah, or CRob. MAT is looking overmatched at the plate, and his D isn’t that great either was we saw tonight.

  3. lphboston - May 5, 2015 at 4:25 PM

    Just throwing this out there — up here in Boston the Red Sox staff is in shambles, and there is talk again about Jordan Zimmermann, especially since Philly’s Hamels is off to a slow start. The Sox tend to overrate their young players and they already have Betts, Bogaerts and Swihart on the big club, so I don’t know who they could offer for Zimmermann. But if they have another bad week the pressure will continue to build. Last night there were several thousand empty seats at Fenway, and that’s almost unheard of.

    • scnatsfan - May 5, 2015 at 4:30 PM

      It appears Bets would have been the deal. Maybe we can sweeten the deal by throwing in McLouth lol.

      • scnatsfan - May 5, 2015 at 4:31 PM

        Betts darn lack of edit button

      • letswin3 - May 5, 2015 at 6:13 PM

        I would support giving up a lot to get Betts, particularly since he could move to second base immediately. I’m worried about Rendon and when he might be able to return, so acquiring Betts would allow Escobar to stay over at third while elevating second substantially on both offense and defense. Maybe a trade that included Zimmermann and Desi (Escobar could then slide into shortstop when Rendon comes back) for Betts plus someone else very good either already at Boston, or someone who they could acquire to make the trade. A trade like that would essentially be two rentals for them, while giving up a ton of talent and team control in Betts. We would also lose the draft picks that would have come from QO’s to Zimmermann and Desi after the season ends. Maybe I’m getting way too analytical here … let’s just say that I was in favor of going after Betts last winter, and I still would love to see him in Washington.

    • adcwonk - May 5, 2015 at 4:33 PM

      They keep changing the rules — part of what would get factored in is this: if JZ walks next year, do the Nats get any compensation at all? If not, the Nats may be open to listening a bit. But, like you mentioned: who could/would they offer?

      • bowdenball - May 5, 2015 at 4:38 PM

        The Nats will get “sandwich picks” between the first and second round for each of the players they lose in free agency this offseason after extending the player a qualifying offer, which you’d expect the Nats to do for all four free agents, barring injury.

    • masterfishkeeper - May 5, 2015 at 4:34 PM

      I don’t know. If the Sox weren’t willing to trade in the offseason, I wonder if they will know. And the Nats might not be all that interested in their young’uns. I bet Rizzo was interested in Betts, but he went out and got Turner, and Difo seems to be coming along, so . . .

      • virginiascopist - May 5, 2015 at 4:39 PM

        I do think they would be more inclined now, after seeing for themselves how bad their rotation is. But I don’t see Rizzo being willing to deal for the reasons you suggested (Turner/Difo) and also because it would mean putting Roark back in the rotation and with Stammen out, Janssen not back yet and Treinen struggling, I’d hate to see the bullpen without Tanner. The Red Sox would have to come up with a pretty good package to pique Rizzo’s interest.

      • jd - May 5, 2015 at 4:40 PM

        He’ll do JZimm for Betts in a heart beat. The Sox won’t do that without knowing for sure they can sign JZimm.

      • lphboston - May 5, 2015 at 4:43 PM

        As i said, the Sox overvalue their prospects. Fans love Betts, and he probably will move to 2B when Pedroia is cooked. So Betts is probably off limits. They have a couple of decent pitchers in AAA, but both will likely be called up to Boston. Besides pitching, big problem right now for the Red Sox is lack of production with RISP, a problem the Nats also seem to have.

      • masterfishkeeper - May 5, 2015 at 4:48 PM

        Good point. I always thought it would take Stras to get Betts, and even that might not work. I remember a good Dave Cameron article on why that trade would make sense.

      • adcwonk - May 5, 2015 at 4:49 PM

        big problem right now for the Red Sox is lack of production with RISP, a problem the Nats also seem to have.

        I think this is overrated for the Nats. Their RISP is almost 10 points higher than their overall BA. Which means the problem is hitting in general, not RISP.

        The Red Sox, OTOH, are batting .022 *lower* with RISP than in general. Yowza!!

      • adcwonk - May 5, 2015 at 4:58 PM

        FWIW, Betts is batting .233 right now . . .

  4. Theophilus T.S. - May 5, 2015 at 4:48 PM

    The Nats’ rotation has great capacity for inconsistency. Trading Zimmermann right now would be foolish as, in addition to Scherzer, they need two or three or the other starters to get steady and stay that way, just to be certain they’re “in it” at the finish.

    For what it’s worth, Betts looks no more self-assured in CF than Taylor. Speed gets him where he wants to go but the issue is, where should he be going?

    • letswin3 - May 5, 2015 at 6:21 PM

      Betts would play second base with the Nats.

  5. Doc - May 5, 2015 at 5:07 PM

    OK with MA’T, but when does TyMo get a chance, besides occasional PHing??

    • jd - May 5, 2015 at 5:13 PM


      TyMo started the season as the regular left fielder and didn’t hit at all. I know it wasn’t a huge audition but when you are not 22 and you have had several chances and your defense is suspect you don’t get very many chances. Right now he’s low in the pecking order and he will have to wait for something to happen to get another chance (may not be with us).

      • adcwonk - May 5, 2015 at 5:16 PM

        In the meantime, he’s 3-for-10 as a PH.

        (I know, SSS)

      • infideljack - May 5, 2015 at 5:36 PM

        Last night’s hit got him to 4 for 11.

  6. jd - May 5, 2015 at 5:10 PM


    You make some reasonable points but…..

    1) You are gonna lose JZimm to free agency at the end of the year.
    2) Without JZimm you still have an excellent rotation inserting Roark back in.
    3) Betts is 22.

    • Theophilus T.S. - May 5, 2015 at 5:23 PM

      JD —

      W/out Z’nn you have a thinner rotation — the robustness of which cannot be assured. W/ Z’nn you have your best chance of winning this year W/out Zimmerman, you have little idea what next year’s team is going to look like or, without regard to who you get in return, what chance they will have of winning in 2016. (For certain, you wouldn’t take one of Boston’s pitchers if they offered one — or two, or three.) Last, you have your own Betts, at worst a close facsimile.

      • jd - May 5, 2015 at 5:34 PM


        Again, you make good points but there is a fairly reasonable argument on the other side. The difference between Roark and Zimm based on last year over a full year is about 2 games. I contend that we win the east with or without Zimm and you know the playoffs are pretty much a crap shoot, If you can get a young cost controlled potential future star in return I think you have to consider it.

        I think it’s a moot point because the Sox won’t trade Betts but even if Michael Taylor steps in for Span seamlessly I think the evidence is beginning to show that we will need a replacement for Werth some day soon.

      • infideljack - May 5, 2015 at 5:39 PM

        JD, If Roark goes to the rotation, you weaken the pen. We do not need Betts.

    • virginiascopist - May 5, 2015 at 5:28 PM

      All good points. Yes, we will lose JZimm at the end of the year; however, we will get the compensation pick (and didn’t JZimm himself come to us via a compensation pick?)

      I still don’t see Rizzo making the deal straight up, JZimm for Betts. He certainly would have done it before spring training, but things have changed since then. And, frankly, I’m not sure Boston is desperate enough to make the offer. Yet.

      • jd - May 5, 2015 at 5:39 PM

        Again, I am using Betts as an example. I think the concept is valid. a comp pick is fine but if you can get a surer thing than a comp pick one who is closer to the show you have to take a good look.

  7. adcwonk - May 5, 2015 at 5:14 PM

    BTW, good story about Storen from Boz today.

    Money quote:

    … sent to the minors, his career in crisis, in July 2013. He was told to get a new pitch, a new delivery, a new hold-runners method and a new attitude. Oh, not much to ask of a 26-year-old who’d already had a 42-save year; just fix, change or tweak almost every part of your game. He did it in three weeks.

    Since this fellow returned, in 97 appearances over three seasons, he has a 1.25 ERA. Only Kansas City’s Wade Davis has a lower ERA in that span. Our man is 30-for-33 in hold situations, 19-for-20 in save spots, plus three wins. Four times he blew a lead, but he never let his team fall behind and his club eventually won every game.

    In fact, in all 97 of those games, Drew Storen got his Washington Nationals beaten only once, when he came into a tie game in the 10th inning last year and allowed a run.

    • ehay2k - May 5, 2015 at 5:33 PM

      The facts don’t fit the narrative that Drew is a choker. Please change the facts!

      (This year, Drew blew one save, and I believe the Nats won.)

      • adcwonk - May 5, 2015 at 6:50 PM

        What facts did I “change”?

        2014 playoffs was bad luck. It happens. It doesn’t mean choker. Pablo hit a ridiculous pitch.

      • adcwonk - May 5, 2015 at 6:51 PM

        Whoops sorry — I read too fast.

        Well played 2k! 😉

      • ehay2k - May 5, 2015 at 7:02 PM

        Boy, I was worried for a second!

        Go Druuuuuuu!!!!

    • Nats Fan Zee - May 5, 2015 at 5:40 PM

      Always been a Drew fan and took heat from some here because of it. I was not aware that the turn around was this dramatic … thanks for the link!

      • adcwonk - May 6, 2015 at 10:34 AM

        Yeah — me neither. To think that he’s been among the best of all of baseball since his return . . . I had no idea.

  8. TimDz - May 5, 2015 at 5:39 PM

    Re: free agent compension

    If the four players are given a q/o and they decline (as expected), doesn’t the compensation pick depend on what team signs them?

    For example, if Milwaukee signs Znn, and their first round pick isn’t protected (I think the top 13 or so are protected), don’t the Nat get that pick? Or, is it a sandwich pick regardless?

  9. masterfishkeeper - May 5, 2015 at 5:42 PM

    Sandwich. Doesn’t depend on signing team.

    • adcwonk - May 5, 2015 at 6:53 PM

      Also, doesn’t it depend on how good the free agent is? (Or do they still do that?) I mean, losing somebody like, say, McLouth shouldn’t result in a sandwich pick, right?

  10. Nats Fan Zee - May 5, 2015 at 5:46 PM

    Back on topic …

    +1 for sitting Werth tonight .. not sure the Espi move was right with SS on the mound.


  11. kgwcoach - May 5, 2015 at 6:05 PM

    Well here I’m back watching batting practice again with a nice breeze and the wife. She’s spoiled the game before last night that she came to was the walk off. Esco’s homer.

    Last night the ball, Espi and the runner got there at the same time. Espi was hurting then so I not surprised he’s getting the night off. I have been pleasant.y surprised with Ug’s defense. He hasn’t made any spectacular plays but he makes the routine plays consistently and turned a double play that was above average.

    • Nats Fan Zee - May 5, 2015 at 6:07 PM

      Here’s hoping that you are right coach!

  12. kgwcoach - May 5, 2015 at 6:11 PM

    Covered field after bp. Looks like they are expecting rain squall around 7. Last time we delayed an hour and there was no rain.

    • ehay2k - May 5, 2015 at 6:18 PM

      At the moment, it’s raining plenty here in Arlington. I am thinking a delay is likely, and not only because Stras is pitching. 😉

      And I’m OK with that because I can watch the Wizards if there is a delay.

  13. Theophilus T.S. - May 5, 2015 at 6:20 PM

    jd — continuing the Betts (as an example) discussion, if Werth doesn’t snap out of his funk (i.e., we’re looking at another .237 season), then I think the replacement for Werth may be Span. That is, Span gets re-signed and Taylor takes over in left. If that’s what the OF looks like in September it wouldn’t be a total shock. There is no one else in the system right now who is ready to be a major league OF but the alternative would be to overpay for someone’s FA thumper or overpay in trade.

    • adcwonk - May 5, 2015 at 6:54 PM

      Werth still has a couple of big money years on his contract.

  14. kgwcoach - May 5, 2015 at 6:21 PM


    Espi definitely has better range and normally would be the better choice, but the way Espi was moving the last three innings last night Ug probably gives us a more consistent effort tonight.

  15. kgwcoach - May 5, 2015 at 6:32 PM

    It wouldn’t surprise be to see Werth as the 4th outfielder next year and Span still here. Werth seems to be thinking more rather than instinctively reacting on balls hit to left. It’s different paths to the ball in left than right and it’s going to take most of the season IMO for him to get out of the thinking mode and back to “muscle memory” instincts.

    I’m A great fan a Werths and he and Pudge were the perfect FA when Rizzo got them.

    Rain delay official.

  16. AlexandriaNatFan - May 5, 2015 at 7:13 PM

    At the game and passing the rain delay by waiting in line at Shake Shack. 🙂

    • AlexandriaNatFan - May 5, 2015 at 7:15 PM

      By the way, my Nats jersey says “Take On Me” over a number 3 on the back. Yes, really. Even better, my fiancée has the number 8 (see what we did there?) and “Take Me On” over her number. 🙂

  17. ehay2k - May 5, 2015 at 7:23 PM

    Anyone else have trouble reading some, but not all, of the posts on the WordPress app? This post, and many of the game posts, I just get a summary. I can’t see the full post and can’t comment. There is also no picture in the post. Must be something about the way the post is created?

    Mark Z, why are this post and the Around the NL.. post different from the post about Werth that follows, or the Roark post that precedes them? Must be something in the way they are served up by WP?

    • Eugene in Oregon - May 5, 2015 at 7:26 PM

      No problems on the west coast.

    • Mark Zuckerman - May 5, 2015 at 7:30 PM

      Hmm, not sure why that would be the case. No difference between any of these posts, as far as I can tell. Do they look normal when you view them on the web instead of the WordPress app?

      • ehay2k - May 5, 2015 at 7:37 PM

        They look the sane as far as I can tell

  18. Ghost of Steve M. - May 5, 2015 at 7:54 PM

    Taylor plays a double into a triple. Realmuto thanks him.

  19. Danny - May 5, 2015 at 7:57 PM

    Game. Strasburg.

  20. Mrsb loves the Nats - May 5, 2015 at 7:57 PM

    Idk… maybe SS needs to be pulled… is that arm alright…

    • scnatsfan - May 5, 2015 at 7:58 PM

      Is the head alright

  21. ehay2k - May 5, 2015 at 7:58 PM

    Well, this is not starting well. Gaffes are not how you win ballgames. Let’s see how Stras responds.

  22. ehay2k - May 5, 2015 at 8:00 PM

    Stras is having some command issues.

  23. ehay2k - May 5, 2015 at 8:09 PM

    Whew, that was tight. Good job to get out of the jam, but he has thrown a ton of pitches. Wondering if the delay has caused him some issues.

  24. coop202 - May 5, 2015 at 8:17 PM

    Well… Saw that coming with desi. Let’s go Danny

  25. Joe Seamhead - May 5, 2015 at 8:21 PM

    Uggla…good enough! We’ll take it.

    • Ghost of Steve M. - May 5, 2015 at 8:28 PM

      Yah, imagine that. A productive out for a RBI.

  26. Ghost of Steve M. - May 5, 2015 at 8:26 PM

    Solis up in the pen. WTF

    • ehay2k - May 5, 2015 at 8:29 PM

      Tons of pitches, and something appears to be physicslly wrong with Stras. Plus he’s leading off at the bottom of the inning.

  27. Joe Seamhead - May 5, 2015 at 8:33 PM

    Good play/catch by MAT.

  28. Eric - May 5, 2015 at 8:35 PM

    What the…heck?

    OMG Fister!

  29. ehay2k - May 5, 2015 at 8:36 PM

    I guess Scherzer’s not an option! 😋

    • Eric - May 5, 2015 at 8:37 PM


  30. Eric - May 5, 2015 at 8:36 PM

    Man, Fister looks like he’s having a freaking ball out there.

    • Joe Seamhead - May 5, 2015 at 8:41 PM

      Fister was a pitcher/first baseman in college, if I remember correctly, and was a good hitter.

      • Eric - May 5, 2015 at 8:44 PM

        Ah…that does sound somewhat familiar. I was sure he was gonna swipe a bag.

  31. Joe Seamhead - May 5, 2015 at 8:38 PM

    Two very good defensive plays by the Fish. Stanton in RF and Dee Gordon at 2nd. Too bad.

  32. ehay2k - May 5, 2015 at 8:40 PM

    I feel for Stras. He was trying to work through something but after 60 pitches, he needed to be pulled. Don’t need to overwork him and cause an injury now.

    • Eric - May 5, 2015 at 8:43 PM

      Yeah. Good to see him fighting to stay in, and to keep the damage minimal.

      Hope it’s nothing serious.

  33. Eric - May 5, 2015 at 8:51 PM

    Wow…so instead of 3-0 on Zim it was 1-2. Ridiculous.

  34. Nats Fan Zee - May 5, 2015 at 8:53 PM

    Early hook is a good thing.

  35. ehay2k - May 5, 2015 at 9:00 PM

    Solis showing something on the mound. He goes after guys. Will be interesting to see how players adjust to him after he pitches a few more games and is scouted.

    • Joe Seamhead - May 5, 2015 at 9:06 PM

      I would think that they’ll limit Solis to no more than 3 innings.

  36. Sec 3, My Sofa - May 5, 2015 at 9:10 PM

    It’s 2-1, not 2-2, thru 5.

  37. ehay2k - May 5, 2015 at 9:12 PM

    Boy, these BBWA guys think they can change the score by writing about it! 😝

  38. nattygoats - May 5, 2015 at 9:23 PM

    Clayton Kershaw Matt Latos. Same thing. Although the ump sucks.

  39. nattygoats - May 5, 2015 at 9:24 PM

    Oreos not helping us out Hun.

  40. Danny - May 5, 2015 at 9:26 PM

    Maybe you should have swung at that fastball Zim. Yeesh.

  41. scnatsfan - May 5, 2015 at 9:27 PM

    Why oh why do we take so many called third strikes

    • manassasnatsfan - May 5, 2015 at 9:48 PM

      To much guessing, is my guess.

    • adcwonk - May 5, 2015 at 10:03 PM

      Because so many of them are a full two baseballs outside the strike zone?

  42. nattygoats - May 5, 2015 at 9:28 PM

    Zimm is killing this team at the plate. What’s he hitting like 210.

    • manassasnatsfan - May 5, 2015 at 9:50 PM

      Like it 213, but leads team in RBI

  43. manassasnatsfan - May 5, 2015 at 9:29 PM

    Just got home to watch Harper take a fast ball right over the middle for strike 3.

    Then Zim a fast ball right down the middle, and then try to pull a slide, which 90% will be a ground out to short. Sliders to the outside are hit solidly going the other way.

    I know the players must understand the physics of this, but in reality few actually do what the physics tells them what to do.

  44. Eric - May 5, 2015 at 9:30 PM


  45. scnatsfan - May 5, 2015 at 9:34 PM

    Lazy Wilson, very lazy

  46. nattygoats - May 5, 2015 at 9:35 PM

    2 hits. One by a pitcher. Awful. sit Zimm a While he’s an auto out.

    • Eric - May 5, 2015 at 9:42 PM

      Man…this ump is ridiculous!

  47. nattygoats - May 5, 2015 at 9:37 PM

    Ramos my least favorite player on this team. Slow lazy can’t hold onto the ball at home.

    • manassasnatsfan - May 5, 2015 at 9:52 PM

      You don’t like Zim either. Who do you have replacing them.

      • adcwonk - May 5, 2015 at 10:04 PM

        Don’t confuse him with details like that 😉

      • nattygoats - May 5, 2015 at 10:14 PM

        Give Ty mo a game or 2

  48. manassasnatsfan - May 5, 2015 at 9:37 PM

    Well we survived a Trainan appearance. His last 10 appearances none have been 3 up 3 down.

  49. ehay2k - May 5, 2015 at 9:39 PM

    Surprised to see Latos still in the game. He was all over the place last inning.

    Time to hit him Nats!

    • Steady Eddie - May 5, 2015 at 9:43 PM

      How can we hit him when the d#*¥+*^% HP ump is consistently giving Latos strikes 5 or 6 inches inside?!

      • manassasnatsfan - May 5, 2015 at 9:47 PM


      • ehay2k - May 5, 2015 at 9:48 PM

        And a few inches outside as well. Must be a Latos or fish fan.

  50. ehay2k - May 5, 2015 at 9:43 PM

    Desi has been robbed twice by Lasagna. [sic]

  51. Eric - May 5, 2015 at 9:43 PM

    Man…this ump is ridiculous!

  52. manassasnatsfan - May 5, 2015 at 9:46 PM

    As I have said before I would love sit a day and watch 3 games with Joe Toree . Would love to hear why he thinks the home plate umps are doing their job. To me as a group they are terrible.

    I have only seen two innings and this guy is awful. How either team score because no ball has to be in the zone to be a k.

    I will be watching the Padres vs. Giants next, I can guarentee you the home plate will stink there too.

    I can’t be a lone ranger in this quest.

    • ehay2k - May 5, 2015 at 9:54 PM

      You are one in a long, long line of people on this quest, going back to the 19th century!

      • manassasnatsfan - May 5, 2015 at 9:57 PM

        With the technology we now have, there is no reason that the umps should not improve by reviewing the report of what they called and what the computer says the pitches were.

        Learn from the computer your weakness and fix.

        Joe Torre doesn’t mind mediocraty appears. It to easy to fix to ignore.

  53. exposremains - May 5, 2015 at 9:49 PM

    Watching the Marlins feed. According to there pitch track, Latos is getting call strikes wat inside and way outside. Is that correct?

    • manassasnatsfan - May 5, 2015 at 9:59 PM

      Yes. We are too. The ump for the second night in the row is terrible.

      It is not hard to fix, but MLB sees no problem.

  54. exposremains - May 5, 2015 at 9:51 PM

    Oops, reading the comments…i get my answer

    • rlndtln - May 5, 2015 at 9:54 PM

      Tough to understand why MW did not bat robinson for taylor and then werth for the pitcher.

  55. manassasnatsfan - May 5, 2015 at 9:54 PM

    The Marlins easily out field us.

    If we had fielded as well as the Marlins we would probably have at least 6 if not more wins.

  56. manassasnatsfan - May 5, 2015 at 10:01 PM

    Had Redmond thought it was fair, I believe Icharo would have been out at second.

  57. manassasnatsfan - May 5, 2015 at 10:03 PM

    Interesting so far in this series, both teams have scored in the same inning.

    Let’s break this trend.

    • ehay2k - May 5, 2015 at 10:05 PM

      Escobar can set the new trend. So many walks tonight and we can’t do anything with them.

  58. manassasnatsfan - May 5, 2015 at 10:12 PM

    Our hitting problem is easy to analyze. We don’t get the barrell of the bat on the ball nearly enough.

    Fixing it is impossible as most players over swing, and a controlled swing would be required.

  59. knoxvillenat - May 5, 2015 at 10:13 PM

    Late to the party tonight, what’s up with the Nats? Making Latos look like Kershaw again,. Two games in a row he starts against us and we can’t put but 1 run across the plate against his 6.00 + ERA.

    • Danny - May 5, 2015 at 10:17 PM

      Boom or bust offense, we say this every game

      • manassasnatsfan - May 5, 2015 at 10:27 PM

        I plan to break down Lagos stats in the post game

  60. Danny - May 5, 2015 at 10:16 PM

    Zim got two cookies dead red. Arg!

  61. exposremains - May 5, 2015 at 10:18 PM

    Man, I miss Rendon.

  62. nattygoats - May 5, 2015 at 10:24 PM

    1and 4 against the fish. Ughhhhhhh

  63. manassasnatsfan - May 5, 2015 at 10:26 PM

    Last I looked we were second in the NL in HBP.

    almost every inning we have an HBP we give up a run including earlier tonight.

  64. Danny - May 5, 2015 at 10:26 PM

    Did MW try to hit and run with Span on 1st and Escobar up in the 8th? Swear he is allergic to that play.

    • manassasnatsfan - May 5, 2015 at 10:38 PM

      He is clueless in the small ball game.

  65. manassasnatsfan - May 5, 2015 at 10:37 PM

    Kids are taught from age 6 through high school how to the bunt, are the pitchers so great now we can’t bunt?

  66. Joe Seamhead - May 5, 2015 at 10:37 PM

    That was not a good bunt by Uggla. Actually it was a crappy bunt.

    • manassasnatsfan - May 5, 2015 at 10:38 PM

      Don’t insult crap that way.

  67. knoxvillenat - May 5, 2015 at 10:40 PM

    Can’t believe Uggla has been asked to sac bunt many times in his career so why not let JZ bat in that situation to get the bunt down? Leave Espinosa in the game and bring Lobatron in if need be in Uggla’s spot.

    • manassasnatsfan - May 5, 2015 at 10:43 PM

      Actually good call. Get a real hunter in.

  68. manassasnatsfan - May 5, 2015 at 10:42 PM

    Finally a fastball down the middle and TyMo show no interest

    But throw a slider a foot outside let’s swing.

    Also they take advantage of our error, and we don’t.

  69. exposremains - May 5, 2015 at 10:42 PM


  70. AlexandriaNatFan - May 5, 2015 at 10:53 PM

    Out of curiosity: How many Ks did we have tonight because of the wide strike zone?

    Certainly agree with the small things needing to be done right (bunting etc.), but like Ray said at the end…it’s hard to hit someone who’s not throwing strikes.

    • Steady Eddie - May 5, 2015 at 11:18 PM

      Just looked at Pitch F/X — Aling with a bunch of not that outrageous, marginal strike calls, Latos got three genuinely outrageous gifts — two that were several inches inside (one was strike three to Desi), one that was way outside.

      The Nats’ pitchers got fewer but still some marginal calls their way, but only one gift, a strike one way outside from Solis.

      Two Nats pitches that were fully within the strike zone were called balls, one from Stras, one from (I think) Solis.

      No Fish pitchers had strikes that were called balls.

      Make if this what you will, but a lousy SZ clearly not called evenly for both teams.

      Give me robot B-S calls! We have too many BS calls from human umps.

      • AlexandriaNatFan - May 5, 2015 at 11:34 PM

        Interesting – thanks Eddie! Appreciate it…I’ve not been impressed at all with the umpiring this season (for the Nats of for other teams/games)





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