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Game 24: Nats at Mets

May 1, 2015, 4:07 PM EST

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This is only Game 2 of a 4-game series, but let’s be honest: The main event is tonight, with Max Scherzer and Matt Harvey going head-to-head in a premier pitching matchup.

Scherzer makes his return to the mound eight days after he sprained a ligament in his right thumb while hitting. He has been able to throw the last several days without any pain, but he will take some precautions when hitting and wear a thumb guard, he said. Harvey, meanwhile, has all of New York going gaga in his first month back from Tommy John surgery, having gone 4-0 with a 3.04 ERA, 31 strikeouts and three walks to date.

The Nationals won’t have Denard Span in the lineup tonight; he’s dealing with some soreness in the area where he had his abdominal muscle surgery, enough that it forced him out of last night’s game early. So Michael Taylor gets the start in center field and will lead off. Dan Uggla also gets back in the lineup at second base, hoping to build off his tremendous series in Atlanta.

As you know, I’m unfortunately not in New York for this series, but please keep up the conversation here as always, and check back in the morning for some analysis of what hopefully will be a fantastic ballgame at Citi Field…

WASHINGTON NATIONALS at NEW YORK METS
Where:
Citi Field, New York
Gametime: 7:10 p.m. EDT
TV: MASN, MLB.tv
Radio: 106.7 FM, XM 869
Weather: Partly cloudy, 53 degrees, Wind 9 mph RF to LF

NATIONALS
CF Michael Taylor
3B Yunel Escobar
LF Jayson Werth
RF Bryce Harper
1B Ryan Zimmerman
C Wilson Ramos
SS Ian Desmond
2B Dan Uggla
RHP Max Scherzer

METS
RF Curtis Granderson
CF Juan Lagares
1B Lucas Duda
LF Michael Cuddyer
3B Daniel Murphy
SS Wilmer Flores
2B Dilson Herrera
C Kevin Plawecki
RHP Matt Harvey

UMPIRES
HP Alfonso Marquez
1B Dan Bellino
2B Bruce Dreckman
3B Tom Hallion

147 Comments (Feed for Comments)
  1. jd - May 1, 2015 at 4:13 PM

    I am surprised we don’t have Espi at short tonight given how right handed the lineup is already and how cold Desmond is. I guess the thinking is to get Desmond back on the bike and perhaps rest him when he’s going a bit better.

    • nats_planner - May 1, 2015 at 4:17 PM

      Agreed, or Escobar at SS and Danny at 3B.

    • infideljack - May 1, 2015 at 4:54 PM

      Ian would pout for weeks if the benched him. He is a complete prima dona and he is not producing.
      He is out of control at the plate and any minute we may see another game changing E6 from El Capitan Desi.

  2. rlndtln - May 1, 2015 at 4:13 PM

    When will we ever get to be at full strength?

    • jd - May 1, 2015 at 4:15 PM

      The Mets are in the same boat. No Wright, D’Arnaud and several relievers.

    • Eugene in Oregon - May 1, 2015 at 5:00 PM

      When has a baseball team ever been at full strength for any length of time?

  3. nats_planner - May 1, 2015 at 4:16 PM

    Bring on the Dark Knight! Hoping Schezer and Co can keep this momentum going! Here’s to hot nats bats, Schezer K’s, and gaining another game in the NL East!

    Disappointed Espi has to sit while Desi continues to struggle; would love to see him at SS with Uggla at 2B. Also fingers crossed MAT regains his hitting form! I believe his first major league home run was at Citi field last year?

    LETS GO NATS!

  4. langleyclub - May 1, 2015 at 4:30 PM

    Like that Taylor is getting a start, but Matt Harvey is probably the worst matchup in the Mets rotation for him. Also, Span is probably the best in the Nats lineup at getting to a right hand power pitcher like Harvey… Span’s 8 pitch at bat in the first inning against DeGrom helped set the tone the for the night.

  5. coop202 - May 1, 2015 at 4:32 PM

    Do not like Taylor leading off against a strike out pitcher…. Definitely do not agree with that. Or not playing espi.

    • donniebenth - May 1, 2015 at 5:36 PM

      Agreed. It is a shame Esco missed ST. I’d love to see him settle in to 2nd base. Danny’s hitting well enough to hold down the fort at third until Two Bags gets back.

      I like Taylor in the lineup, but I’d simply slide everyone else up and bat him 7th or 8th.

      • Joe Seamhead - May 1, 2015 at 7:46 PM

        Well, so far he is 2-2.

  6. natsfan1a - May 1, 2015 at 4:33 PM

    Go, NATS!!

  7. natsfan1a - May 1, 2015 at 4:33 PM

    Also, go MAX! (But bleep the DH! :-))

  8. infideljack - May 1, 2015 at 4:55 PM

    Ready for Mad Max with a 2 RBI double at the plate.

    • masterfishkeeper - May 1, 2015 at 5:13 PM

      With a wet newspaper?

  9. letswin3 - May 1, 2015 at 5:42 PM

    I am channeling a big night for Harper, Uggie and Taylor … maybe 3 hits each and 5 rbi among them. Just remember where you heard it first.

    Oh yeah, get some money down on Dortmund in tomorrow’s Derby too.

    • letswin3 - May 1, 2015 at 5:44 PM

      Maybe only 2 hits each.

  10. adcwonk - May 1, 2015 at 6:12 PM

    Harvey’s pitched great — but not entirely consistently. Or, not as well as Scherzer this year so far.

    Harvey’s allowed 3 and 4 runs in two different starts (out of four), Scherzer’s not allowed more than 2 (earn) runs.

    Harvey’s WHIP is 0.938 (excellent). Scherzer’s is 0.837 (off the charts)

    We can do this,

    GYFNG!!

  11. adcwonk - May 1, 2015 at 6:19 PM

    If nobody’s mentioned it previously — check out Boz’s column today. It’s a fun read about what the Nats, Caps, and Wiz have done over the last couple of days.

    http://www.washingtonpost.com/sports/capitals/its-the-silly-season-for-dc-fans/2015/05/01/16667ec8-f001-11e4-a55f-38924fca94f9_story.html

    It ends with:

    “Nobody’s talking titles. Just talkin’ about having fun, thinking big and even dreaming silly — like people do in normal towns. It’s allowed. And might be just about time. “

    • sec105rowwseat28 - May 1, 2015 at 6:47 PM

      Don’t care about those other two teams. Hope they lose soon so their radio broadcasts quit pre-empting the Nats.

    • nattygoats - May 1, 2015 at 6:54 PM

      I love those teams. But not here. Who cares? this is baseball blog.

  12. Danny - May 1, 2015 at 6:33 PM

    Likely going to see at least 3+ strikeouts from MT and Uggla against Harvey. Span being out this game hurts. Also don’t agree with Uggla over Espinosa in this one. Runs will be at a premium, we should have the superior defender out there.

    • nattygoats - May 1, 2015 at 6:56 PM

      Agree. Typical MW not giving us best chance to win.

    • natsjackinfl - May 1, 2015 at 7:48 PM

      Since Michael A. Taylor already has 2 hits can we expect this Danny guy to goo back to the NFL Draft?

  13. nattygoats - May 1, 2015 at 6:52 PM

    MT leading off? Don’t like it. Kid can’t hit

    • Joe Seamhead - May 1, 2015 at 7:50 PM

      Are you either of you ever right, goat?

  14. Eric - May 1, 2015 at 7:09 PM

    Ah, it’s already so pleasant in here, like when a trash truck rumbles by.

    • AlexandriaNatFan - May 1, 2015 at 7:15 PM

      Except that, every now and then, a trash truck actually has something worthwhile in it.

      • Joe Seamhead - May 1, 2015 at 7:39 PM

        Yeah, but the trash truck almost always has an unpleasant pungent smell.

  15. AlexandriaNatFan - May 1, 2015 at 7:12 PM

    So here’s an interesting/humorous fact: My iPhone auto-corrects “Uggla” to “Unglamorous” 🙂

  16. philipd763 - May 1, 2015 at 7:34 PM

    While it is still early in the season, Desmond may be wishing he took the Nats $110 million when it was on the table. What happens if he ends up hitting .230 and makes 30 errors over the season?

    • natsdial8 - May 1, 2015 at 7:54 PM

      Some team will pay him big $ still – just won’t be the Nats

  17. adcwonk - May 1, 2015 at 7:39 PM

    Man, I know it’s only the second innings — but Scherzer looks like he’s really stepped up his game tonight. (From merely “excellent” to “astoundingly superb”). He looks terrific after 2!

    • Ghost of Steve M. - May 1, 2015 at 7:45 PM

      You have a confidence that the team can score runs.

  18. Ghost of Steve M. - May 1, 2015 at 7:43 PM

    Yah, what was Gramderson doing. It’s a double.

  19. Ghost of Steve M. - May 1, 2015 at 7:50 PM

    That’s a defensive player by Michael A

    • Joe Seamhead - May 1, 2015 at 7:52 PM

      It was a very nice catch, preceded by a very good read to start with.

  20. natsjackinfl - May 1, 2015 at 7:51 PM

    Hey Joe. Let’s have a little more patience on young Mr. Taylor. He handled that one pretty good.

    • Joe Seamhead - May 1, 2015 at 7:58 PM

      Huh? If I had any more patience tonight you’d think I was doing yoga, Jack.

    • natsdial8 - May 1, 2015 at 7:59 PM

      Michael has the talent needs experience and really good coaching to teach him fundamentals –

      • unkyd59 - May 1, 2015 at 8:06 PM

        And, he doesn’t seem to mind facing Harvey… 😉

  21. Ghost of Steve M. - May 1, 2015 at 8:05 PM

    Harvey doesn’t have his best stuff. The Nats need to pounce on him. They can get him tonight.

  22. NatsLady - May 1, 2015 at 8:05 PM

    Watching Zim face Harvey compared to Harper reminds me that Zim is a man, Harper is still a boy.

    • natsdial8 - May 1, 2015 at 8:09 PM

      Reminds me of a story but I will pass:)

    • Eric - May 1, 2015 at 8:48 PM

      I don’t follow…what is it about their at bats that makes you say that?

      • Eric - May 1, 2015 at 8:54 PM

        NatsLady, this was in reply to your comment about Zim v Harper batting against Harvey.

      • nats128 - May 1, 2015 at 8:57 PM

        Not sure I understand the reference besides there obvious age difference. Harper is far from being a boy. He was a man-child the day he came up.

      • natsdial8 - May 1, 2015 at 9:01 PM

        Having a bit of trouble with my post s repeating – not sure what is going on – anyway – barring 20 hitting a game winner tonight Slipper has 2 sit him one game or two let him settle down

      • natsdial8 - May 1, 2015 at 9:04 PM

        Skipper – 🙂 i give up

      • manassasnatsfan - May 1, 2015 at 9:15 PM

        You borrowed my fingers

  23. Ghost of Steve M. - May 1, 2015 at 8:11 PM

    Was hoping in this heavyweight fight that Scherzer could stay toe-to-toe with Harvey. It’s still early. The Mets with the first punch that connected.

    • natsdial8 - May 1, 2015 at 8:13 PM

      We need some good @ bats make Harvey work he is on a count

    • TimDz - May 1, 2015 at 8:15 PM

      The mets have been hitting it on the screws since the first inning…it was a matter of time…
      Harvey is hittable tonight and had a long outing last time out….
      Time will tell….

      • Ghost of Steve M. - May 1, 2015 at 8:17 PM

        At 1-0, the Nats need to get 1 run before they think about 2. Get this tied up.

      • Eric - May 1, 2015 at 8:56 PM

        +1

  24. natsdial8 - May 1, 2015 at 8:16 PM

    What is FP talking about with Z he had no problem at all getting 2 pop up it was 5 ft into the seats

    • Ghost of Steve M. - May 1, 2015 at 8:19 PM

      He makes stuff up as he goes along. Hard to listen to sometimes. I know he doesn’t believe most of what he says.

      • natsdial8 - May 1, 2015 at 8:22 PM

        He does invent things 🙂

  25. natsdial8 - May 1, 2015 at 8:32 PM

    34 Rocks !!!

  26. Ghost of Steve M. - May 1, 2015 at 8:32 PM

    Great charge by Harper and the Buffalo on getting the ball and securing it and the sweep tag for the out!

    • natinalsgo aka Gonats - May 1, 2015 at 8:33 PM

      He also picked up Uggla who missed the play before. That’s what good teams do.

  27. Joe Seamhead - May 1, 2015 at 8:34 PM

    Good enough on the throw, Bryce, good enough.

  28. Joe Seamhead - May 1, 2015 at 8:42 PM

    Close, but Harp looked safe to me.

    • masterfishkeeper - May 1, 2015 at 8:46 PM

      Sure didn’t seem clear enough to overrule.

    • manassasnatsfan - May 1, 2015 at 8:51 PM

      My TV which I can slow to 120 images o’er second, had him out by one image. What I found normally anything under 2 images the umps in NY don’t change, though with their equipment never miss one. I have not seen one that I could not decide.

    • Eric - May 1, 2015 at 8:52 PM

      It seemed pretty clear to me that the tag beat him…maybe mnf can give us a frame count 😉

      • Eric - May 1, 2015 at 8:53 PM

        Ask and ye shall receive!

  29. Eric - May 1, 2015 at 8:51 PM

    I don’t agree with FP about the quality of the pitch that Cuddayer got to…wasn’t terrible, but it was barely a hair out of his hot zone.

  30. Danny - May 1, 2015 at 8:53 PM

    How does Zim take that 2-0 fastball

  31. manassasnatsfan - May 1, 2015 at 8:55 PM

    I was just about to say why not have Espi bat for Desi. 0 for last 28.

    Totally not with it presently.

  32. Danny - May 1, 2015 at 8:55 PM

    Dez 1 pitch 2 outs. 0-29.

  33. nats128 - May 1, 2015 at 8:55 PM

    This is a ballgame and once again proves to be a game of inches.

  34. rlndtln - May 1, 2015 at 8:55 PM

    Desi needs a rest

  35. Danny - May 1, 2015 at 8:56 PM

    Harvey literally owns us.

    • Eric - May 1, 2015 at 8:58 PM

      He owns the MLB man.

      • nats128 - May 1, 2015 at 9:02 PM

        +1

  36. Eric - May 1, 2015 at 8:57 PM

    Oooo, Harvey done???

    • Eric - May 1, 2015 at 8:59 PM

      Niiiiice

  37. manassasnatsfan - May 1, 2015 at 8:58 PM

    Last time our staring pitcher didn’t allow the first run was last Sunday.

    Granted Scherzer has pitched excellently, but again not better than his opponent.

  38. manassasnatsfan - May 1, 2015 at 9:00 PM

    Great play by Scherzer to get Harvey out of the game.

  39. nats128 - May 1, 2015 at 9:00 PM

    Glad to see Harvey out of the game.

    • manassasnatsfan - May 1, 2015 at 9:03 PM

      Heads up play letting a single get Harvey out of the game.

      • nats128 - May 1, 2015 at 9:07 PM

        I dont think Scherzer did it purposely tho I like the pitching change.

        Time for Nats to pounce and score runs.

  40. manassasnatsfan - May 1, 2015 at 9:02 PM

    Why are these post out of order again. I don’t understand how it happens

    • Eric - May 1, 2015 at 9:05 PM

      It happens when people reply to a comment A, and then that comment gets reported. A report designates the comment for moderation. If/when an admin approves the reported comment, it reappears in the thread and the replies fall back into place.

  41. nats106 - May 1, 2015 at 9:03 PM

    Game over. Mets bullpen will not hold the lead. Nats Win! You heard it hear first! or 2nd or 3rd

    • nats106 - May 1, 2015 at 9:30 PM

      Oops wrong bullpen, wrong year. My bad….

  42. Ghost of Steve M. - May 1, 2015 at 9:09 PM

    Cuddyer got to that single. Thought it would be a double. Credit to Cuddyer.

  43. Ghost of Steve M. - May 1, 2015 at 9:11 PM

    How was that not a HR by TyMo.

    • manassasnatsfan - May 1, 2015 at 9:14 PM

      Just missed squaring it.

      • Ghost of Steve M. - May 1, 2015 at 9:18 PM

        He thought he had it which tells me he thought he hit it enough. In July its 10 feet over the fence.

  44. manassasnatsfan - May 1, 2015 at 9:12 PM

    Almost TyMo, but I could tell by the route ran it was going to be short. To bad Uggla couldn’t read as he could have made it second.

  45. manassasnatsfan - May 1, 2015 at 9:16 PM

    Please swing at strikes

  46. nats128 - May 1, 2015 at 9:21 PM

    When a pitcher isn’t used to saves of more than 1 inning it can be an issue in the next inning. Far from over.

  47. manassasnatsfan - May 1, 2015 at 9:23 PM

    Is this the Atlanta Falcon. Sound like noise suddenly piped in.

  48. Ghost of Steve M. - May 1, 2015 at 9:24 PM

    Taylor took a few clicks to read that hit by Duda before he came in on it.

  49. manassasnatsfan - May 1, 2015 at 9:24 PM

    MW you wait til he get in trouble. Smell the trouble comes would be preferred.

  50. Eric - May 1, 2015 at 9:26 PM

    OK Treinen…let’s do this thing.

  51. veejh - May 1, 2015 at 9:27 PM

    That was a strike

  52. manassasnatsfan - May 1, 2015 at 9:27 PM

    Rendon a walk in the three plate appearances

  53. ogremj - May 1, 2015 at 9:28 PM

    No more Treinen.

  54. Mrsb loves the Nats - May 1, 2015 at 9:29 PM

    Totally disappointing…

    How do you walk him Blake… what the hell.

  55. rlndtln - May 1, 2015 at 9:29 PM

    3 lefties and he watches as Rome burn.

  56. Ghost of Steve M. - May 1, 2015 at 9:30 PM

    Ump missed that 3-1 call. Great pitch by Treinen. It’s been a well called game until then and now Werth screws up. Unfortunately that’s not called an error. Poor read by Taylor on Duda’s single, Werth totally screws up and we will never know what would have happened on Cuddyer if the ump calls it a strike.

  57. veejh - May 1, 2015 at 9:30 PM

    Treinen continues to be victim to umps that are misjudging all that movement.

    • ogremj - May 1, 2015 at 9:32 PM

      Not really. He needs to throw strikes and he doesn’t miss many bats with all that movement.

  58. rlndtln - May 1, 2015 at 9:30 PM

    3 lefties and MW watches.

  59. Ghost of Steve M. - May 1, 2015 at 9:31 PM

    FP with more excuses. Just stop. He says LF is claustrophobic. What next FP?

    • manassasnatsfan - May 1, 2015 at 9:33 PM

      The real problem is Trainan can’t miss bats when RISP. A reliever has to have that skill.

      • Ghost of Steve M. - May 1, 2015 at 9:34 PM

        He misses plenty of bats. It’s just not enough for you. You say it every time he’s out there. He doesn’t call the strikes.

      • manassasnatsfan - May 1, 2015 at 10:31 PM

        Let’s look at his Whip and BAA and I will see if I am to tough on him.

        He does have more K then I thought with 10 in 11 1/3. However 14 hits and 7 walks almost a WHIP of 2. That is terrible. His ERA is 4.76 way high for a mid reliever.

        I don’t know how many inherited runners he has kept at bay or let score . Though I know he let 2 out 2 today.

  60. manassasnatsfan - May 1, 2015 at 9:31 PM

    Thorton could have walk Cuddyer.

    Werth wow that looked totally off. My question wiypth Trainan’s stuff why can’t he miss bats very often.

    • Ghost of Steve M. - May 1, 2015 at 9:33 PM

      His ball moves so much Manassasnatsfan that many times they don’t swing because they are fooled so badly and the umps are fooled too. There is no instant replay for balls and strikes.

      • manassasnatsfan - May 1, 2015 at 9:42 PM

        The umps are paid to watch the play. Seems their review would show all these missed calls and they could fix.

        I would love to work in the MLB to review all balls and strikes of all umps so that I could assign grades, and pay them based on accuracy.

      • Ghost of Steve M. - May 1, 2015 at 9:59 PM

        He called a great game. Missed a few. It happens.

    • Mrsb loves the Nats - May 1, 2015 at 9:34 PM

      That’s my biggest issue with BT. Cant keep blaming umps about supposedly missing something….

  61. NatsLady - May 1, 2015 at 9:31 PM

    Well, guess we won’t see Familia for the 9th. Which has to be a good thing, right?

    • manassasnatsfan - May 1, 2015 at 9:35 PM

      Looks out there to me.

  62. Danny - May 1, 2015 at 9:31 PM

    Why can’t Treinen get one swing and miss on a 96-98 mph moving fastball. Makes no sense

    • scmargenau - May 2, 2015 at 1:54 AM

      Cuz they are fat and obviously easy to hit

  63. rlndtln - May 1, 2015 at 9:32 PM

    3 lefties in the pen and MW plays with himself

    • manassasnatsfan - May 1, 2015 at 9:36 PM

      He used a lefty

    • manassasnatsfan - May 1, 2015 at 9:36 PM

      He used the others these the last couple nights.

  64. Mrsb loves the Nats - May 1, 2015 at 9:32 PM

    Whelp… there is always tomorrow….

  65. Joe Seamhead - May 1, 2015 at 9:34 PM

    Weather? How long have you been playing the outfield? Do not take a step in on the ball off the bat.I don’t care if you’re in RF, LF, or CF. Outfielding 101.

    • Joe Seamhead - May 1, 2015 at 9:36 PM

      Weather? Auto correct turned Werth into Weather.

  66. manassasnatsfan - May 1, 2015 at 9:38 PM

    Strike outs on bad pitches just unexcusable

  67. Mrsb loves the Nats - May 1, 2015 at 9:49 PM

    Desi really needs a day or 2 off…

  68. nattygoats - May 1, 2015 at 9:58 PM

    Treinen equals white towel.

  69. nattygoats - May 1, 2015 at 10:01 PM

    Desi and Weth stealing money from this team.

  70. IsawTeddywin - May 1, 2015 at 10:04 PM

    Treinen did not harm his inherited runners scored percentage tonight.
    I do not want to see him coming in with men on base again.

  71. Joe Seamhead - May 1, 2015 at 10:10 PM

    Ghost of Steve M? I just went back and watched the bottom of the 8th again. I disagree with you on Taylor on the way he played Duda’s hit. Michael did nothing wrong on that play.He had no chance what so ever to make the catch, but he kept the ball in front of him. Werth messed up royally. Let me explain. If an outfielder takes a step in he runs the risk of the ball getting hit over his head, making him either look stupid, or leaving him to have to make a tough, spectacular looking catch.Nyjer Morgan often took steps in resulting in his acrobatic plays that Span makes look so easy. Take a step, or a half step back and you are in much better shape to make the needed adjustment. It’s much easier to come charging in than it is to backpedal. Outfielding 101, but many players never learn that rule.

    I am critical of some of Taylor’s plays in CF, but he absolutely did nothing wrong on that play. Jayson did nothing right on his.

  72. ehay2k - May 1, 2015 at 10:15 PM

    Tough loss, but you can best hang that loss on Werth, if anyone. We had a chance down only 1 in the 9th, but not 4. But that’s baseball.

    Scherzer looked good. I would really like to know how the SP think the catchers compare in terms of calling games. I get the feeling that Loboton is craftier.

    Another game tomorrow.

    • Joe Seamhead - May 1, 2015 at 10:31 PM

      Zero runs scored is a team fail. Werth’s miscue was the final nail, but regardless, you never win if you score zero runs.

      • manassasnatsfan - May 1, 2015 at 10:34 PM

        Nor lose if you give up zero.

  73. ehay2k - May 1, 2015 at 10:16 PM

    Posts are out of order again. 😛

  74. David Proctor - May 1, 2015 at 10:32 PM

    I can’t be overly upset at this loss. There are losses where you get beat and losses where you beat yourselves. Every team gets beat. The problem is that too often this year we’ve beat ourselves. Today, we got beat. Scherzer pitched great, Harvey pitched just a little bit better. We were about 3 feet from Tyler Moore giving us the lead. Didn’t happen.

    The play in the 8th was unfortunate, and frankly awful, but it didn’t matter. We got shutout by good pitchers.

    At the same time, Max Scherzer must be very frustrated. I doubt he lost many games with the Tigers when he pitched this well. Him being 1-3 is just another testament to how awful the pitcher win is.

    • Ghost of Steve M. - May 1, 2015 at 10:55 PM

      The rules on what an error is needs to be rewritten. Werth made an error. To hear FP make up excuses and as written actually said that “leftfield can make you claustrophobic” pushed me over the edge. Werth is a very good player and unfortunately his defense has declined and it has been year over year.

    • sec105rowwseat28 - May 1, 2015 at 11:44 PM

      According to MW in the post game presser, Jayson “slipped” on that play as he tried to change direction and go for the ball. You would call that an “excuse” or say that Jayson should be charged with an error on the play. But you would be wrong. Sh*t happens. Jayson Werth is not the reason the Nats lost this game. Neither is Blake Treinin. Sure, Treinin should have pitched better. And it would have been better if Werth hadn’t slipped on that play. But they were already behind 1-0 when all that happened, and part of he reason it was only 1-0 at that point is that Werth, Taylor and Harper all made some great outfield plays earlier in the game that kept it that close. You really do need to gain some perspective on what the game of baseball is all about. Frankly, you don’t have a clue.

      • David Proctor - May 2, 2015 at 12:25 AM

        …did you read my post?

      • scmargenau - May 2, 2015 at 1:47 AM

        He’s talking to ghost DP

      • Joe Seamhead - May 2, 2015 at 6:45 AM

        Werth slipped because he misjudged the ball off the bat, took a step in, then reversed himself suddenly because he had to go back, then lost his footing. I am a huge Werth fan, have been since day one, but if it had been Tyler Moore playing that ball into a bases clearing hit the howling in here would hurt your virtual ears.

        I’m not saying Jayson should be charged with an error on the play, but MLB Rule 10.12(a) states: “It is not necessary that the fielder touch the ball to be charged with an error.”

        There are times when a fielder isn’t charged with an error by the official scorer when he doesn’t touch the ball, but by the rule should be charged. Read the whole rule and Werth’s play wasn’t one of those times, but it was pretty close to being an error by the intent of the rule.

        In the scope of things it didn’t matter. Even if he had caught the ball and no runs had scored in the 8th the Nats still would have probably lost 1-0.

  75. manassasnatsfan - May 1, 2015 at 10:47 PM

    I am not upset as Harvey out pitched Scherzer by the slimmest of margins.

    What upsets me is Trainan who is now 5th in allowing inherited runners to score at 4.

    • Ghost of Steve M. - May 1, 2015 at 10:59 PM

      Did Trainan kick your dog? I remember the days Henry Rodriguez would singlehandedly lose a game and people were saying how good he was. Trainan didn’t lose this game.

      You don’t have to worry about Trainan. Once he gets his confidence and the support of his team he will improve. His stuff is electric.

      • scmargenau - May 2, 2015 at 1:43 AM

        Fail. That’s lame. He’s been awfull.

      • Ghost of Steve M. - May 2, 2015 at 8:20 AM

        Awfull or Awful. Trainan or Treinen. Small sample sizes vs a reasonable sample size. Good fielding vs poor fielding.

        Yes, he came into the game and unfortunately walked Cuddyer. The next man hits a can of corn fly ball to Werth who misjudges it and falls down but yet the stats will blame Treinen and so are you.

        That’s BS. I used to have arguments here for months where I would call Henry Rodriguez a thrower and a not a pitcher. I was met with abrasive comments back from 1 person who comments here all the time.

        To call Treinen “awfull” isn’t fair to him. Has he been great? No, but he’s better than what his record says.

  76. Joe Seamhead - May 2, 2015 at 9:19 AM

    It was certainly a catchable ball, though even if Jayson had caught it one run almost certainly would’ve scored with the runner on third tagging up. It was only the 2nd out.

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