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Game 21: Nats at Braves

Apr 28, 2015, 3:36 PM EST

Mark Zuckerman / NATS INSIDER

ATLANTA — Major-league debuts are always a big deal, no matter how touted a rookie is or is not. But they’re an even bigger deal when they come in a particularly important game for that young player’s team, as most certainly is the case tonight for A.J. Cole and the Nationals.

Losers of six straight and now a full 8 games back in the NL East, the Nats desperately need to play well tonight against the Braves (and, ideally, win). So there’s a level of pressure on the 23-year-old Cole that wouldn’t normally be there for your run-of-the-mill debut outing. We’ll see how the lanky right-hander deals with all that.

Cole won’t have his best possible defense behind him, because Yunel Escobar (as expected) is out after having his left hand cut up by Andrelton Simmons’ late, hard slide last night. That means Danny Espinosa is at third base, with Dan Uggla at second base. It also means the Nationals have no backups at second base, shortstop or third base. In the event of emergency, Tyler Moore would probably play third base, with the other guys shifting as necessary.

One way or another, this should be an interesting one, so please make sure to check back often for updates…

WASHINGTON NATIONALS at ATLANTA BRAVES
Where:
Turner Field, Atlanta
Gametime: 7:10 p.m. EDT
TV: MASN, MLB.tv
Radio: 106.7 FM, XM 869
Weather: Partly cloudy, 67 degrees, Wind 8 mph in from RF

NATIONALS
CF Denard Span
SS Ian Desmond
LF Jayson Werth
CF Bryce Harper
1B Ryan Zimmerman
C Jose Lobaton
3B Danny Espinosa
2B Dan Uggla
RHP A.J. Cole

BRAVES
RF Nick Markakis
SS Andrelton Simmons
1B Freddie Freeman
C A.J. Pierzynski
3B Alberto Callaspo
LF Kelly Johnson
2B Jace Peterson
CF Cameron Maybin
RHP Julio Teheran

UMPIRES
HP James Hoye
1B John Tumpane
2B John Hirschbeck (cc)
3B Bill Welke

7:11 p.m. — We are underway on a 70-degree night here in Atlanta. There’s a chance of some rain later. Hopefully much later.

7:35 p.m. — The good news: The Nats got a run in the top of the first thanks to Denard Span’s leadoff single and Bryce Harper’s 2-out RBI double. The bad news: A.J. Cole gave the Braves two runs back in the bottom of the inning. The rookie right-hander was up in the zone with just about everything, throwing only 90-93 mph. The Braves got hits from Nick Markakis, Freddie Freeman and Alberto Callaspo, plus a sac fly from A.J. Pierzysnki and a wild pitch from Cole that hit the backstop on the fly. He did record a much-needed strikeout of Kelly Johnson with a curveball to end the inning, but he’ll need to settle down when he returns for the second inning. It’s 2-1 Atlanta.

8:07 p.m. — Oh, my. Cole just gave up another 7 runs on 6 hits in the second inning. It’s really not pretty. He’s not fooling anybody. And when it looked like he would get out of the inning with a chopper to first, he dropped Zimmerman’s throw while trying to find the bag. The Nats had no real choice but to leave him out there, given the current state of things. But this is a really tough situation for the kid, one you’d never wish upon anybody in his MLB debut. Speaking of which, if I did my Baseball-Reference Play Index research correctly, it appears only six pitchers in baseball history have ever given up 10 or more runs in their debut start. Cole is now at 9, and the Nats trail 9-1 after two innings.

8:18 p.m. — Well, the Nats got one run back in the third on Span’s double and later Werth’s sac fly. Tanner Roark then entered for the bottom of the third, sending Cole to an unceremonious early shower. Roark retired the side. It’s 9-2 after three.

8:38 p.m. — The Braves get one back in the fourth off Roark, with Freeman (who else?) and Pierzynski teaming up. It’s starting to rain lightly here. You wonder if, deep down in a place they’d never talk about at parties, the Nats wouldn’t mind if it starts pouring to the point they have to call this game early. 10-2 Braves after four.

9:00 p.m. — Well, Span doubled and then Callaspo booted a grounder and the Werth hit a sac fly and then Zimmerman singled and then Lobaton launched a 3-run, opposite-field homer and all of a sudden it’s a 10-6 game after five innings. Still a long way to go in this one. Roark, meanwhile, has thrown 42 pitches over three innings of relief. Williams said yesterday he was probably good for 50-60 total, so we’ll see if he’s got one more good inning in him or not.

9:26 p.m. — Home run by Span in the top of the sixth, his fourth hit of the night, trimming the lead to 10-7. But then Roark hit a wall in the bottom of the inning, putting the first three batters he faced on base, with one of them scoring, before he was pulled with his pitch count at 52. Matt Thornton entered and did a nice job getting out of the inning without any more damage. But it’s now 11-7 heading to the seventh, so the Nats still have some work to do.

9:55 p.m. — And the rally continues in the seventh. Dan Uggla blasted his second triple in as many nights (yes, you read that correctly) to drive in two runs. Reed Johnson then doubled home Uggla to make it an 11-10 game, though Johnson appeared to get hurt running the bases and wound up being replaced by pinch-runner Doug Fister (yes, you read that correctly). Blake Treinen entered for the bottom of the inning and gave a run back via Freddie Freeman (now 7-for-10 in the series) and A.J. Pierzysnki (now with 4 hits tonight). So it’s 12-10 Braves after seven innings of one of the wildest ballgames I’ve ever covered.

10:13 p.m. — Jim Johnson set down the Nats in order in the top of the eighth. Treinen stranded a runner on third base in the bottom of the inning. So it’s still 12-10 heading to the ninth, with Zimmerman, Lobaton and Espinosa due up against Jason Grilli.

10:24 p.m. — SWEET FANCY MOSES DAN UGGLA 3-RUN HOMER GIVES THE NATS A 13-12 LEAD IN THE TOP OF THE NINTH.

10:37 p.m. — It’s over, Drew Storen finishes off an improbable 13-12 victory, completing the largest comeback victory in Nats history. The losing streak is over, and perhaps this is the game that turns this season around.

359 Comments (Feed for Comments)
  1. mnmindc - Apr 28, 2015 at 3:48 PM

    Enough with our collective hand-wringing. This will be one of the biggest days of AJ Cole’s young life. I hope it is memorable in a good way and that the team supports him with good defense and more than one run. I’m confident the team will win more than seven games this year. Let’s get number eight tonight!

    • NatsLady - Apr 28, 2015 at 4:16 PM

      Let’s win one for the young man, who was drafted in 2010, meaning he’s been in the minors (ours and Oakland’s) for quite a while! Also, win one for us fans, who could use it.

      They are not going to play any O’s games at Nats Park. Tomorrow they are playing a game closed to the public in Camden Yards. They will do a double-header in May for the other two White Sox games. For the Tampa series, they will play in the Trop with the O’s as the home team.

      • nats106 - Apr 28, 2015 at 4:21 PM

        Wow a closed game? Thanks for the update, but what a bad situation.

        I wouldn’t even with that on Angelos. When I was in High School we had a closed basketball game due to fights between players, students, etc.. I almost feel like that game shouldn’t count in the standings. It will like being at a Nationals game in 2010.

      • infideljack - Apr 28, 2015 at 4:34 PM

        Sharpton wants to bring the riots to DC with a march from Baltimore.

      • Sec 3, My Sofa - Apr 28, 2015 at 5:03 PM

        baseball blog. Just saying.

      • hantiaolang - Apr 28, 2015 at 5:32 PM

        Is MASN televising the O’s “closed” game? That may be an eerie feeling for the players, with the loud bang of foul balls clanging off mostly empty seats, and shouts of support echoing around the stadium. Or will the players let loose with extra expletive-filled cheers? 🙂

        Will it be only players’ families and organization people in attendance?

  2. cosmova - Apr 28, 2015 at 3:56 PM

    Werth in the 3-spot is killing us right now. Bet he strikes out at least twice again tonight.

    • NatsLady - Apr 28, 2015 at 4:18 PM

      He’s hit a few balls hard, but he really looks lost on the called third strikes. Haren through one of his slow fastballs 😉 right across the plate and Werth just stared at it blankly. I wonder if he’s guessing to make up for slower bat speed–and guessing wrong.

      • NatsLady - Apr 28, 2015 at 4:23 PM

        through = threw

    • infideljack - Apr 28, 2015 at 4:37 PM

      I do not understand putting Desi in the 2 hole. He is in a huge slump. When Rendon and Yunel get back he needs a rest to get his head together. He is doing mire damage than good.

      • NatsLady - Apr 28, 2015 at 4:46 PM

        The whole lineup is, well, Bryce Harper, Span maybe, and RZim OK. After Zim are four players who might never get a hit. You want to make it five? Hopefully this is the night Werth wakes up. I thought it would be last night against the mediocre lefty…

  3. adcwonk - Apr 28, 2015 at 4:17 PM

    I’ve been accused of being Pollyannish, being too optimistic. (In short: the Nats are too good to keep this up, and it’s April)I, in return, think that those criticizing me have short memories.

    So, maybe I’m out to lunch on this, but I wanted to share an exerpt from Boswell’s chat today:

    Here’s what matters: Nothing.

    I learned my lesson with Earl Weaver long ago. The ’79 Orioles “started” 3-8. They went to the seventh game of the World Series. The ’80 Orioles looked like a disaster and started 16-21 — six games behind at the peak of the buy-a-pennant Yankees. They won 100.

    “What is a start?” Earl would squawk at us beat reporters? Is it 10 games? 20, 30 40? You don’t know.”

    Then he would talk seriously about what had happened — if anything — that impacted the full year, like a major injury or a key player who’d gone over the hill.

    Always look big picture.

    What’s happened so far that matters?

    Harper looks excellent, more mature. You couldn’t have better news.

    Nobody (yet) appears to have a serious injury.

    … Chill. And get off the ledge, if you’re out there — ’cause ya look silly.

    BTW, the Nats looked bad in Florida, bad the first week. I’ve taken care not to predict anything too specific for them. With hindsight, maybe its ’13 again. But I REALLY doubt it.

    So far, it’s meaningless.

    • NatsLady - Apr 28, 2015 at 4:21 PM

      I dunno, Wonk. Werth looks suddenly old, and that would qualify as a “key player … over the hill.” Fister doesn’t look like himself at all. I think Strasburg, Z’nn, and Gio will revert to their usual form, not too worried about them. But we haven’t seen Janssen yet, and Rendon is coming back more slowly than expected.

      • adcwonk - Apr 28, 2015 at 4:24 PM

        Werth is hitting the ball hard. Again, to quote Boz:

        Span and Werth rushed back and haven’t contributed as much as Michael A. Taylor and Tyler Moore probably would have. By getting back sooner, they’ll also probably hit their stride at the plate sooner, too — so not a bad trade off.

    • natsfan1a - Apr 28, 2015 at 4:31 PM

      1. There are certainly worse things to be.
      2. Eh, who cares what they think, anyway? 😉

      “I’ve been accused of being Pollyannish, being too optimistic.”

      • adcwonk - Apr 28, 2015 at 4:51 PM

        Good points 😉

        I don’t care so much. But for other fans on this board, I just wanted to point out that more sober folks (such as Boz, or the ESPN guys last night) *also* think this level of poor play and poor hitting can’t possibly go on much longer.

    • nats106 - Apr 28, 2015 at 4:32 PM

      To counter your Pollyanna-esque thoughts, I offer a sobering dose of DOA:

      Last night I had the choice of watching the Caps or the Craps, er, ah, Nationals and I chose wrong. I won’t make that mistake again. I liked the post yesterday regarding the DOA and boxing scorecard. I’ll be using WAR and UZR to score the upcoming Mayweather/Pacquiao fight.

      After the Nats pull a surprising upset, the DOA will be DOA unless someone besides 222 clamors for it.
      Without any further ado, here it is:

      DOA (Doug’s Objective Analysis) game assessment

      SS Simmons vs Desmond Still April- I’ll take Simmons, Ian delivered yet again in the “E” department. He’s like Old Faithful when it comes to screwing up.

      1B Freeman vs Zimmerman Good game Ryan I’ll still go with Freddie
      2B Peterson vs Uggla Am I confident in Cole? Let’s just say I picked up Jace in my fantasy league…..

      3B Johnson vs Espinosa Callaspo, but I put Johnson in so I could say the following: Can a National PLEASE get to 3rd base tonight and spit on it? If not for Escobar, then for Jose Fernandez)

      LF K Johnson vs Werth I dunno-pick ‘em
      CF Maybin vs Span Span is still the man, Fredi is overconfident
      RF Markakis vs Harper Harper-please get us a HR tonight, Bryce (and behave yourself sliding into 2nd if Simmons is there)
      C Pierzynski vs. Ramos Pierzynski

      Position players: Advantage : Braves 5 Nationals 2 Tie 1
      Pitching Matchup: Teheran vs Cole Advantage: Braves (but I’m pulling for you, AJ!)

      Like I said yesterday: pitch around Freeman and let the rest take care of itself. Hello? Mr Potato head? Is there anyone here who can manage a baseball game?

      Manager matchup: Gonzalez vs Williams Sorry, but decorum prevents me from addressing this matter.
      Best chance for Nationals to lose by more than 3 runs is tonight (if you exclude yesterday). Yesterday I said they can afford up to:
      1. 2 errors
      2. 1 error and 2 bonehead plays

      They did not disappoint, giving me 4 errors and an excuse for why the DOA did not work
      Today I say that they cannot afford ANY mistakes to win this game. So to win they can afford:
      -0- errors and 1 bonehead play

      DOA (Doug’s Objective Analysis) series assessment (subject to modification):
      I didn’t seeing any pigs flying out at Dulles today, so I’d say the Nationals have less than a 50/50 chance of winning this series.

      But if we lose tonight, there’s always tomorrow.

      GO NATS

      • Section 222 - Apr 28, 2015 at 4:44 PM

        Hard to argue with this, but after seeing Jace’s throwing arm last night, I’d be tempted to give the edge to Uggla. Good thing defense doesn’t count in fantasy.

      • infideljack - Apr 28, 2015 at 4:48 PM

        hahaha…great. I have a little more confidence in the new Espinosa.

      • Sec 3, My Sofa - Apr 28, 2015 at 5:06 PM

        OK, consider me clamoring.

    • Section 222 - Apr 28, 2015 at 4:39 PM

      Sofa linked to Boz’s chat in the last thread. This was my response in case you missed it:

      “Not too convincing. He talks about the ’79 O’s who were 3-8 and went to the WS and the ’80 O’s who were 16-21 and won 100 games. The first 11 games truly is too little to get worried about. And if the Nats get to 16-21, I’ll be well off the ledge because that would mean they won 9 of the next 17 games. Right now they are 7-13 and showing no signs of being able to play .500 baseball, much less go on an extended run.

      I totally get that the season is not over, that all hope is not lost, that the Nats can come back from this disastrous start. No doubt about that. But the idea that there is nothing to be concerned about (or as Boz says: “Here’s what matters: Nothing.”) is with each successive loss being shown to be silly.”

      I’d add now that the ’79 O’s reference is a typical Boz selective sample. After that bad start, the O’s won 11 straight games. After 20 games, they were 12-8!!

      The ’80 O’s reference is interesting. They started the year 7-11. Sound familiar? After 20 games, they were 8-12. But then they turned it around and were 27-27 after the 3rd 18 game set. They never had an 18 game stretch as bad as 7-11 for the rest of the season, and were 11-7 or better 6 times including one stretch of 16-2 and another of 14-4. They had both a 10-game winning streak and a separate 8-game winning streak in August. They also had an unbelievable 4-man starting rotation that started all by 19 games.

      • adcwonk - Apr 28, 2015 at 4:44 PM

        Thanks for reprinting your response (I didn’t read the other threads this morning after the first couple of comments on the first thread)

        You’re right. But I think the bottom line is this: we don’t know yet if this is a repeat of 2013 or 2014. But this team certainly seems like it has better players than we did in 2013, and certainly better pitching.

        But if you want a larger sample size than 11 games, there’s always this (again, from Boz):

        Last year, the Giants had a 20-36 slump that lasted two MONTHS. By August 12th, they were 5 1/2 games behind and you couldn’t find 10 people in the Northern Hemisphere that thought they had a chance in hell to win the World Series.

      • infideljack - Apr 28, 2015 at 4:51 PM

        Let’s hope this is not 2009 all over again.

      • nats106 - Apr 28, 2015 at 4:52 PM

        Very true on the selective Boz sample. Whatever supports the story line.

        Still love reading his articles, though. Good stuff (both Boswell’s writing and the commentary on the references.

        Thanks

      • Sec 3, My Sofa - Apr 28, 2015 at 5:08 PM

        “Very true on the selective Boz sample. Whatever supports the story line.”

        Which again points out the reality: narratives exist after the fact, and get edited as we go. They don’t have any objective existence.

      • Section 222 - Apr 28, 2015 at 5:14 PM

        You’re absolutely right that we don’t know yet. My only point in all this discussion is that it’s not unreasonable to be worried, even very worried, after what we’ve seen so far.

        By the way, Boz’s historical examples ought to come with a warning — Beware Selective Samples. He does this all the time. Yes, the Giants had an awful stretch mid-season. They were also 22 games over .500 on June 8 and led their division by 10 games. Aug. 12 was their rock bottom, and they were still tied for the second wild card spot.

        http://mlb.mlb.com/mlb/standings/wildcard.jsp?ymd=20140928#20140812

        So I imagine plenty of people thought they still had a chance. And as I pointed out the other day, the 2014 Giants, despite the hot and cold nature of their season still had only one 18 game stretch as bad or worse than 7-11. (I know you’re not a fan of the 18 game groupings, but I’m going to keep beating that horse until it expires). The Nats have had their one bad stretch. Another could be fatal.

      • sec105rowwseat28 - Apr 28, 2015 at 7:44 PM

        Three stretches of 7-11 would correspond to a record of 21-33. According to Boswell, the Giants had a stretch of 20-36 at one point during the 2014 season. That’s worse than 21-33, isn’t it? So apparently the Giants just didn’t make sure to align their bad stretches exactly with your arbitrarily-selected set of 18-game stretches, eh?

        You really might want to reconsider your adamant defense of your 18-game theory. You’re just digging yourself into a hole with it. Don’t you know the first rule of holes? If you should happen to find yourself dug into a hole, quit digging.

      • Section 222 - Apr 28, 2015 at 11:18 PM

        105, I’d say that my 18 games chunks (1-18, 19-36, 37-54, etc.) are a lot less “arbitrary” than cherry picking the absolute worst stretch that a team has during a year and dividing it up. But you’re still wrong. There were only two 7-11 or worse stretches within that period of the Giants 2014 season, unless you want to double count games, which there’s no good reason to do. Feel free to actually do some research if you wish. It would be a first for you as far as I can tell:
        http://www.baseball-reference.com

        As for giving up my 18-game “theory,” that’s the last thing I’m going to do, and particularly not because an arrogant jerk like you isn’t impressed. I’ve been doing them for over three years and I find it interesting. So do others on the blog in case you haven’t noticed. And besides, it’s not a theory anyway. It’s just a way to look at the season that yields some interesting information and comparisons, for whatever it’s worth. So feel free to keep taking potshots if that floats your boat, but if your goal is to bully me into changing my approach, you can save your breath. It’s not going to work.

  4. natsfan1a - Apr 28, 2015 at 4:29 PM

    Go, AJC! (Not to be confused with AJP, who should not go.) Go, NATS!!

    • Sec 3, My Sofa - Apr 28, 2015 at 5:33 PM

      I say, GO, A.J. Pierczynski!

      And take Fredi with you. Mind the doorknob.

      • natsfan1a - Apr 28, 2015 at 6:24 PM

        I wouldn’t mind that, on either count. (Truth be told, as I was typing it, I thought to myself that AJP should go do something that is anatomically impossible, but that wouldn’t have been very nice, would it? I’m not a big fan of his.)

    • adcwonk - Apr 28, 2015 at 5:45 PM

      Atlanta-Journal Constitution?

      • natsfan1a - Apr 28, 2015 at 6:24 PM

        Could be, but in this case it’s A.J. Cole.

      • adcwonk - Apr 28, 2015 at 7:22 PM

        (I was joking)

  5. veejh - Apr 28, 2015 at 4:31 PM

    Change the attitude one game at a time. It starts tonight.

    • adcwonk - Apr 28, 2015 at 4:47 PM

      +1

  6. bc4314 - Apr 28, 2015 at 4:32 PM

    I tend to agree with Boz and wonk. Too early to panic. I think the offense will revert to something resembling its performance last year. Starting pitching will do the same, more or less. The most pressing concern, in my mind, is the bullpen as there are a lot of new faces out there. My guess is that they’ll be close to .500 by June 1.

  7. philipd763 - Apr 28, 2015 at 4:33 PM

    Why bat Werth third when he looks so pathetic at the plate?

    • knoxvillenat - Apr 28, 2015 at 4:41 PM

      Why not give TyMo or Robinson a chance in LF tonight and let Werth sit one out?

      • adcwonk - Apr 28, 2015 at 4:47 PM

        Because the odds are (not a guarantee) that Werth, by playing, will get on track. And he’s hit the ball hard with bad luck. His BABIP is just ..206 (last year was .343)

        He was rushed back, and he’s still not 100% in sync. He’ll get there. And, I think, fairly soon. (Same with Span)

      • jd - Apr 28, 2015 at 4:57 PM

        I agree with Wonk, whatever the problem is I’m fairly certain that TyMo and Robinson aren’t the solution.

    • Sec 3, My Sofa - Apr 28, 2015 at 5:14 PM

      If Werth were hitting .233, after having basically no spring training, would that count as not-pathetic? I think it would.

      That’s what his BA would be if his BABIP were ~.300.

      Just saying.

  8. alexva6 - Apr 28, 2015 at 4:41 PM

    I’ve been waiting for them to play a nice clean game. at this point I’ll take another crappy one that they find a way to win.

    baby steps out of last place
    baby steps back into the NL East race
    baby steps

    • natsfan1a - Apr 28, 2015 at 4:55 PM

      Good plan. Go for the crappy win, boys! I’ll take it. 🙂

  9. natsjackinfl - Apr 28, 2015 at 4:57 PM

    Watching MLB and all agree, Simmons did not initiate a “dirty” play on his slide. And a few of us agree.

    Like they said last week, this is Big Boy Baseball.

    • nats128 - Apr 28, 2015 at 5:01 PM

      Time to turn that page. Its unfortunate and a player got hurt and many people are charged up over it.

      • nats128 - Apr 28, 2015 at 5:04 PM

        “And a few of us agree.”

        Why does everyone have to pick sides and build up support. This was handled on the field. Rafael Martin didnt retaliate for no reason and I tend to side with the team regardless of what the stars on NatsInsiders say or the talking heads on TV shows.

      • nats106 - Apr 28, 2015 at 5:22 PM

        Because we’re the Washington DC Nationals, so everything is point/counterpoint.

        Now if it was Washington State it would be different.

    • Sec 3, My Sofa - Apr 28, 2015 at 5:17 PM

      I’m willing to allow that he might have hit Escobar harder than he meant to, in the heat of the moment, and did not, in fact, intend to hurt anybody. I just don’t care. But baseball is inconsistent about when and to whom you can risk injury, so there’s that.

  10. jd - Apr 28, 2015 at 5:02 PM

    I have followed Cole througoiut his career. He has pretty much graduated every single level in the organization but every step up was slow and not mastered instantlly. Even this year at AAA he has been far from dominant, he’s been OK but he gives up a lot of hits and his share of home runs (walks very few). I think eventually he will be a decent major league mid rotation starter but I don’t anticipate him bursting on the scene and dominating. He’s only 22 so still very young I just fear that if we are looking for instant gratification we will be dissapointed.

    I hope I’m wrong.

  11. NatsLady - Apr 28, 2015 at 5:03 PM

    • nats128 - Apr 28, 2015 at 5:05 PM

      Come on. What now.

      • nats106 - Apr 28, 2015 at 5:16 PM

        I was afraid of that. Fatigue? Really?

    • adcwonk - Apr 28, 2015 at 5:16 PM

      Ruh Roh . . .

      d@mn

    • Sec 3, My Sofa - Apr 28, 2015 at 5:20 PM

      Maybe he’s on his way to Atlanta?? One can hope. They ARE short of infielders…

      • Sec 3, My Sofa - Apr 28, 2015 at 5:24 PM

        If only for emergency use. Right now, if anybody in the infield gets hurt, you’ve got Tyler Moore at third, or first, if it’s Zim. After that, I have no idea. Clint Robinson somewhere?

    • langleyclub - Apr 28, 2015 at 5:39 PM

      Expect Rendon to again get shutdown for an extended period.

      Two more weeks, at least, with Danny Espinosa and/or Uggla in the everyday lineup. Just threw up in mouth…

    • natsfan1a - Apr 28, 2015 at 6:31 PM

      Wait, don’t jump! Read this from Mark’s tweeter update thingy:

      1h
      Mark Zuckerman ✔ @ZuckermanCSN

      Rendon’s knee felt better today, Williams said. They’ll hope to get him back on field tomorrow.

      • natsfan1a - Apr 28, 2015 at 6:33 PM

        Eh, that, or read the new post. Now it’s his side?

  12. nats128 - Apr 28, 2015 at 5:07 PM

    ” It also means the Nationals have no backups at second base, shortstop or third base.”

    I guess Fredi can try a chop block tonight to break up a doubleplay and injure another Nat.

    • NatsLady - Apr 28, 2015 at 5:10 PM

      OK, AJ: Strikeouts and popups, strikeouts and popups.

      • nats128 - Apr 28, 2015 at 5:16 PM

        Good idea!

    • infideljack - Apr 28, 2015 at 6:01 PM

      Not on the field, but any MI injury will bring up a single A prospect.

      • unkyd59 - Apr 28, 2015 at 7:34 PM

        Difo and Renda, both at Harrisburg, I think… Difo is one of The Forty…

    • natsfan1a - Apr 28, 2015 at 6:28 PM

      At first I thought this was a reference to that chop thing that they do in the stands, the one with the chant that makes me hit the mute button (sorry, Bob and FP), and I had a visual of Fredi doing that. Heh.

      “I guess Fredi can try a chop block tonight”

  13. NatsLady - Apr 28, 2015 at 5:08 PM

    And… the good news.

    • natsfan1a - Apr 28, 2015 at 6:29 PM

      And per Kolko he also has a good, strong handshake, so there’s that.

  14. Section 222 - Apr 28, 2015 at 5:33 PM

    Kind of funny that AJCole, along with Norris, was the centerpiece of the trade that brought Gio here. And now he’s starting a game for the Nats and will be followed in a few days by Gio.

  15. Another_Sam - Apr 28, 2015 at 5:59 PM

    For any of the get well scenarios presented in the last thread, they need to win. Tonight’s the night. Play ball. The score is tied 0-0 right now. No errors so far.

  16. topnat - Apr 28, 2015 at 5:59 PM

    It’s a rule of thumb for me that it takes 100 mlb at bats for a player to get the eye and timing down. Minor league ab’s don’t count. Thats more for conditioning. Werth is reported to take no swings in spring training games purposely. When he starts drawing walks rather than called third strikes he’s probably close. So both Werth and span are about half way to consistent mlb caliber ab’s. When Rendon returns he will probably need a few less. Nats need some luck to not fall too far behind until then. The danger now is guys getting off their games trying to do more than they’re capabilities. Desi is case #1. Zimm #2

  17. rayvil01 - Apr 28, 2015 at 6:06 PM

    The gloom and doom is pretty thick in here.

    This is a hot weather team. Wait before you jump off the ledge until it gets hot and humid.

  18. Flap Jacks in Olney - Apr 28, 2015 at 6:14 PM

    Perhaps not his knee after all.

    • natsfan1a - Apr 28, 2015 at 6:33 PM

      Eh, now it’s his side, per the new post. Sigh.

      • Flap Jacks in Olney - Apr 28, 2015 at 6:35 PM

        1a. As a long time lurker, and very seldom poster. I might love you.

      • natsfan1a - Apr 28, 2015 at 6:37 PM

        Aw, thanks, Flap Jacks.

      • Flap Jacks in Olney - Apr 28, 2015 at 6:39 PM

        Yep. You are the blog mother.

      • Sec 3, My Sofa - Apr 28, 2015 at 7:57 PM

        “1a. As a long time lurker, and very seldom poster. I might love you.”

        Get in line, Flapjacks. Get in line.

  19. ehay2k - Apr 28, 2015 at 6:34 PM

    MW in his pre-game comments about Simmons’ slide. “If you are tying to beat the ball, you slide to the bag. If you are trying to take out the player, you slide past the bag.”
    I watched again and he was aiming at Yuni’s glove, not the base. Bush league.

    I just hope Bryce doesn’t do anything stooopid tonite. Kids, sheesh!

    • adcwonk - Apr 28, 2015 at 7:07 PM

      I watched again and he was aiming at Yuni’s glove, not the base. Bush league.

      But Yuni’s glove was just six inches above the bag!

  20. nattygoats - Apr 28, 2015 at 6:38 PM

    Get over the freakin slide and worry about trying to win 1 ballgame. Sheeeeeeeeeeesh. MW sucks

  21. Theophilus T.S. - Apr 28, 2015 at 6:46 PM

    Hopefully Scherzer only misses one start. I wouldn’t want to make a large bet on that. If the Nats really think they’re “short” in the BP — and haven’t they been “short” all season long? — the effect of the ten-day rule on Martin puts them in something of a bind. There aren’t any relief pitchers in Syracuse worth calling up after Cole’s start. Janssen seems, conservatively, three-four weeks away. And they will resist putting Scherzer on the DL until it is blatantly obvious he won’t be able to make his next start. Given that Martin couldn’t be recalled until May 8 it seems more likely Cole will be kept around at least as long as it takes Scherzer to come back, and maybe beyond that.

    • NatsLady - Apr 28, 2015 at 7:02 PM

      Looks like Scherzer will start Friday. Wearing a thumb guard when he bats…

  22. Mrsb loves the Nats - Apr 28, 2015 at 6:56 PM

    Good Luck to Mr. Cole tonight… hope he has a spectacular debut.

  23. Mrsb loves the Nats - Apr 28, 2015 at 6:59 PM

    I feel like Teheran always pitches a gem against the Nats… so just hoping we play error free ball competently….

    • adcwonk - Apr 28, 2015 at 7:11 PM

      Lifetime against the Nats: In 8 starts he’s 3-2, 3.08 ERA

    • manassasnatsfan - Apr 28, 2015 at 9:18 PM

      We hit him.

  24. Mrsb loves the Nats - Apr 28, 2015 at 7:13 PM

    Span with a hit…. and away… maybe he will get in track….

  25. Mrsb loves the Nats - Apr 28, 2015 at 7:20 PM

    Nice hit Harp…

  26. Mrsb loves the Nats - Apr 28, 2015 at 7:27 PM

    Come on Mr Cole…. missed a few spots….

    • Ghost of Steve M. - Apr 28, 2015 at 7:32 PM

      Unlucky BABIP too.

      • Mrsb loves the Nats - Apr 28, 2015 at 7:33 PM

        A little concerned becuz these are hard hits… but hopefully the Nats Bats will score more than 1 run…

      • Ghost of Steve M. - Apr 28, 2015 at 7:34 PM

        Lack of movement. Probably over-throwing.

  27. rlndtln - Apr 28, 2015 at 7:29 PM

    This is JZIM replacement for next year.Good luck.

    • Ghost of Steve M. - Apr 28, 2015 at 7:30 PM

      Does anything EVER come out of your brain as positive on NatsInsider?

      • Mrsb loves the Nats - Apr 28, 2015 at 7:32 PM

        Didnt SWM get banned? This may be another version of him…..

      • Ghost of Steve M. - Apr 28, 2015 at 7:34 PM

        Seems that way. Negative vibes.

    • Ghost of Steve M. - Apr 28, 2015 at 7:33 PM

      Freeman hits a doubleplay ball and it was out of Uggla’s reach. When things aren’t going well, that seems to happen.

  28. rlndtln - Apr 28, 2015 at 7:32 PM

    Yes Harper.Only telling to like it is.Remember we are supposed to win the world series.

  29. Ghost of Steve M. - Apr 28, 2015 at 7:36 PM

    Nice hit! Why Lobaton? Mark had Ramos in the starting lineup?

    • Mrsb loves the Nats - Apr 28, 2015 at 7:38 PM

      OPPO Boppo…

    • rlndtln - Apr 28, 2015 at 7:45 PM

      Lobaton 4-8 against Terhan.

      • Ghost of Steve M. - Apr 28, 2015 at 7:48 PM

        Yep, just was confused by Mark’s lineup above where he had Ramos starting. I see on the @Nationals twitter that they had Lobaton.

  30. Mrsb loves the Nats - Apr 28, 2015 at 7:40 PM

    Look at Espi from the LH side of the plate …

  31. Mrsb loves the Nats - Apr 28, 2015 at 7:43 PM

    What just happened there… who told Cole to swing?

    • Ghost of Steve M. - Apr 28, 2015 at 7:51 PM

      Exactly. It almost worked but hit it right to the 2nd baseman.

  32. rlndtln - Apr 28, 2015 at 7:44 PM

    What positive can be said .I can not believe even MW would have him swing.

  33. Karl Kolchak - Apr 28, 2015 at 7:44 PM

    Wow–is this kid not ready for prime time or what? What in the heck was that?

  34. philipd763 - Apr 28, 2015 at 7:47 PM

    Seeing Dan Uggla flail away with the bat made me wonder if there has ever been a reliable bat on the bench since Mike Rizzo became GM. I can think of Tyler Moore in the 2013 season or was it 2012? Can anyone come up with another name?

    • Karl Kolchak - Apr 28, 2015 at 7:52 PM

      Tracy, Moore, Bernadina and even Lombardozzi were all pretty good in 2012

  35. rlndtln - Apr 28, 2015 at 7:49 PM

    This kid has no velocity.

  36. rlndtln - Apr 28, 2015 at 7:50 PM

    Thats why we continue to lose.Thet sac bunt like it was intended.

  37. Eric - Apr 28, 2015 at 7:53 PM

    Unreal. It’s like a horror flick.

  38. Ghost of Steve M. - Apr 28, 2015 at 7:54 PM

    Nothing hit right at Nats fielders. Lousy pitch but not so bad that it couldn’t find a fielder.

    • Ghost of Steve M. - Apr 28, 2015 at 7:55 PM

      There was some luck. Freeman hits it near Harper.

  39. Mrsb loves the Nats - Apr 28, 2015 at 7:54 PM

    Lord Cole… what is going on with these sinker ball pitchers…

  40. rlndtln - Apr 28, 2015 at 7:54 PM

    Now our genius MW will bring in Roark to clean up.He must feel real good with 15 wins last year cleaning up for a AAA pitcher.

  41. Mrsb loves the Nats - Apr 28, 2015 at 7:55 PM

    Get Roark going …

  42. ogremj - Apr 28, 2015 at 7:55 PM

    Turning off the game. So sad.

  43. sunshinebobby - Apr 28, 2015 at 7:56 PM

    Thank you for coming, Mr. Cole. We don’t validate parking. Be careful driving home. We’ll call you.

  44. rlndtln - Apr 28, 2015 at 7:56 PM

    Great idea

  45. rlndtln - Apr 28, 2015 at 7:57 PM

    eventually they should hit a ball at someone.Are only hope

  46. Mrsb loves the Nats - Apr 28, 2015 at 7:57 PM

    Pull him please…

  47. Ghost of Steve M. - Apr 28, 2015 at 7:58 PM

    And there’s the wheel off the bus. ERROR

  48. rlndtln - Apr 28, 2015 at 7:59 PM

    Even that can not help.Have to catch the ball.Where is the guy that said I am too negative,

  49. Mrsb loves the Nats - Apr 28, 2015 at 7:59 PM

    My God…. you have got to be kidding me… I keep thinking that the last game was the worst it can get….

    Apparently not….

    • robertrobert104 - Apr 28, 2015 at 8:11 PM

      No, they get worse every game! 23 errors so far, they will end up with more errors than wins….ah geez, they don’t compete at all and they don’t seems to have any passion at all, no fire in their eyes, nothing…and the coach who does nothing too….

  50. Joe Seamhead - Apr 28, 2015 at 7:59 PM

    OK, I’m officially discouraged.

  51. scnatsfan - Apr 28, 2015 at 8:00 PM

    I can’t watch anymore. Crab fishing for me. Will check scores and hope but why be in a bad mood for another night watching this horrid product. If you think these guys have the talent then it’s on MW as he is getting nothing out of these guys.

  52. NatsLady - Apr 28, 2015 at 8:00 PM

    8-1 and it’s only the 2nd inning. Poor kid. But this is the majors. You have to bunt. You have to make the play at first base. And you can’t catch so much of the plate with your fastball.

  53. rlndtln - Apr 28, 2015 at 8:00 PM

    The wheels are off.Load the bus back to the hotel.We suck.

    • robertrobert104 - Apr 28, 2015 at 8:05 PM

      2015 is a bust, let,s hope for 2-16….they are too bad to get better

      • adcwonk - Apr 28, 2015 at 9:25 PM

        Great! Will you both come back next April?

  54. Eric - Apr 28, 2015 at 8:01 PM

    Unreal. It’s like a comedy flick!

  55. unkyd59 - Apr 28, 2015 at 8:01 PM

    …..just……make it stop…..please….

    • unkyd59 - Apr 28, 2015 at 8:05 PM

      McCatty went right to the phone… Tanner Time… Rough night, Kid…

  56. rlndtln - Apr 28, 2015 at 8:02 PM

    Where is Steve the ghost.Say something positive.

    • AlexandriaNatFan - Apr 28, 2015 at 8:03 PM

      Something positive.

      There. That’s about all I got right now.

    • Ghost of Steve M. - Apr 28, 2015 at 11:08 PM

      I’m right here gloating. The BABIP turned and some luck.

  57. Mrsb loves the Nats - Apr 28, 2015 at 8:02 PM

    This is just embarassing….

    Serious question – was Cole supposed to be ready for next year?

    • stoatva - Apr 28, 2015 at 8:07 PM

      The infatuation with Cole seems largely limited to Mr Rizzo.

  58. scnatsfan - Apr 28, 2015 at 8:04 PM

    On a bright note when the fire sale happens – and it will – we should get some good prospects unless Rizzo is so arrogant he opts for draft picks and torture for the departing players.

  59. nattygoats - Apr 28, 2015 at 8:04 PM

    Hahahahahahahw. Shame on you MWfor not pitching RoArk tonight. What a despicable shameful and embarrassing team. And I have NO pity for this Cole kid. What a joke. Get used to those empty seats boys. GUTLESSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSS!!!!!!!!

    • Karl Kolchak - Apr 28, 2015 at 8:06 PM

      Rizzo’s call, not MW’s. If Cole were still at Syracuse, Williams would’t have been able to start him.

  60. AlexandriaNatFan - Apr 28, 2015 at 8:04 PM

    Someone please tell me Cole’s number is not some juvenile joke…..please tell me there’s a reasonable, baseball-related or family-related or personal reason for it.

    • Just. Dave - Apr 28, 2015 at 9:29 PM

      An embarrassment. I remember Dennis Rodman tried to use that number, and the nba stopped it. Good decision.

  61. rlndtln - Apr 28, 2015 at 8:05 PM

    JZIMS replacement.

    • adcwonk - Apr 28, 2015 at 9:26 PM

      No he isn’t.

  62. ogremj - Apr 28, 2015 at 8:06 PM

    I hope they are working in the Zimmermann extension as we speak.

  63. Eric - Apr 28, 2015 at 8:06 PM

    My oh my. May as well lose your 7th straight in spectacular fashion. Why not?

  64. nattygoats - Apr 28, 2015 at 8:06 PM

    Please fire the ex marine. Ahhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhh

  65. dakotah55 - Apr 28, 2015 at 8:06 PM

    Fire Matt Williams. Between innings.

    Yes I know its unfair, but something has to light a fire under this dead team’s ass. I’m sure after the game Jason Werth will say, “It’s early”. Yes it is, but this is ridiculous.

  66. nattygoats - Apr 28, 2015 at 8:07 PM

    Hey seriously. Why no roark

  67. Mrsb loves the Nats - Apr 28, 2015 at 8:07 PM

    3rd inning…. let the comeback begin…..

    I’m trying yall…. im trying…

    • scnatsfan - Apr 28, 2015 at 8:18 PM

      Thanks!

  68. texnat1 - Apr 28, 2015 at 8:07 PM

    To answer Mark’s question from earlier, yes, it appears that this team can channel last night’s emotion into something. That something is the single worst performance of the year, which is quite an accomplishment.

    At this point MW is rapidly approaching real danger. Sacrificial lamb or not, something is going to have to give fairly soon.

  69. Mrsb loves the Nats - Apr 28, 2015 at 8:08 PM

    Moved the runner…. come on Jayson… base hit…

  70. Joe Seamhead - Apr 28, 2015 at 8:08 PM

    OK, 9-1, but folks! The manager has lost control of this team. Why leave this kid in until it was 9-1?

    • Mrsb loves the Nats - Apr 28, 2015 at 8:14 PM

      I thought I typed earlier that Roark should have stated getting ready when the score was 4-1….

    • robertrobert104 - Apr 28, 2015 at 8:15 PM

      He was sleeping, as usual. I think he is a bad manager, he does nothing, or always too late. And this is why this team is totally lost. No leaders on the team, no lead from the manager.

    • adcwonk - Apr 28, 2015 at 9:28 PM

      There actually can be a reason for that. I saw Davey do it with Ron Darling once. It worked (in Darling’s case)

      • Joe Seamhead - Apr 28, 2015 at 9:57 PM

        Was it RonDarling’s first MLB appearance?

      • adcwonk - Apr 28, 2015 at 10:17 PM

        I think it was his rookie year, doubt it was his first appearance, but the principle is the same. The idea is to see if you can keep him in so he can pitch a scoreless inning or two, and that way the appearance isn’t a total waste, and the young pitcher can end on a positive note. You hate to take a rookie out without him having any positive notes at all.

  71. Mrsb loves the Nats - Apr 28, 2015 at 8:10 PM

    Okay… productive out…

    LETS SCORE SOME MORE RUNS!!!!

    • robertrobert104 - Apr 28, 2015 at 8:12 PM

      No, they prefer to make errors….

  72. unkyd59 - Apr 28, 2015 at 8:13 PM

    Not whining, just curious… Teheran is pretty slow… Does the new pace of play protocol have anything to say about that?

  73. natslive - Apr 28, 2015 at 8:15 PM

    Serious question – why not have Roark start to begin with? I get he may only have been able to go 4 to 5 innings because not used to starting this year and bullpen hasn’t been that good but really don’t understand what you gain by starting Cole. Call him up but use out of bullpen if you have to.

    • Ghost of Steve M. - Apr 28, 2015 at 8:19 PM

      They didn’t want to tax the bullpen and they thought Cole was ready. I wasn’t impressed with him in Spring Training as I wrote as I watched him. He shows too much ball in his delivery and has a easy motion to pick up the ball and then when you add to that his inability to hit his spots you have a problem.

      I liked AJ Cole in A ball and there’s still time for him to develop but this was an awful debut.

    • Karl Kolchak - Apr 28, 2015 at 8:20 PM

      I don’t think anyone else gets it either. It was incredibly unfair to Roark, and now potentially damaging to Cole’s confidence. A very bad call on Rizzo’s part.

  74. AlexandriaNatFan - Apr 28, 2015 at 8:16 PM

    Alright!!! We just got a ground ball out, guys!!! Yeah!!!!

  75. Social Sam - Apr 28, 2015 at 8:17 PM

    Sitting in the stands at Turner Field during this makes me hate the Braves and their fans even more.

  76. Mrsb loves the Nats - Apr 28, 2015 at 8:18 PM

    A clean inning… YES!!!!!

  77. Joe Seamhead - Apr 28, 2015 at 8:19 PM

    I have supported Matt Williams, but now I am getting to the point first of pitying him, and secondly, I am wondering who’s available as an improvement? I’m 100% serious.

    • Karl Kolchak - Apr 28, 2015 at 8:24 PM

      Bench coach Randy Knorr deserves a shot. He led the P-Nats to a league championship in 2008 and managed for 6 years in their minor league system, so presumably he knows the players well.

  78. dcwx61 - Apr 28, 2015 at 8:21 PM

    and for all the disagreements on if this is 2013 or 2012 or if random 18 game samples are random or if andy simmons slide was unwarranted….here’s this:

    Sometimes, its better to be happy then right.

  79. veejh - Apr 28, 2015 at 8:23 PM

    I was so pumped for this baseball season. This is such a bummer. I really hope this gets turned around, and soon.

    • scnatsfan - Apr 28, 2015 at 8:29 PM

      You are not alone my friend

    • dcwx61 - Apr 28, 2015 at 8:34 PM

      just take april and may off and come back in June…it’s got to get better by then.

  80. Mrsb loves the Nats - Apr 28, 2015 at 8:26 PM

    Aight Mr Uggla…

  81. Mrsb loves the Nats - Apr 28, 2015 at 8:33 PM

    I hate Freeman…. and I say that with love…

  82. Karl Kolchak - Apr 28, 2015 at 8:34 PM

    C’mon, rainout!

  83. dcwx61 - Apr 28, 2015 at 8:36 PM

    the DP that turns the whole season around

  84. saintpaddy - Apr 28, 2015 at 8:37 PM

    wow these 2015 Nats are looking a LOT like the 2005 nats. this game is just Ugly. Damn

    • Karl Kolchak - Apr 28, 2015 at 8:43 PM

      The 2005 Nats were a LOT better than this. 2008 and 2009, not so much.

      • saintpaddy - Apr 29, 2015 at 7:12 AM

        Your Damn right they are! I take it back I take it all back 13-12 NATS WIN!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

  85. JamesFan - Apr 28, 2015 at 8:39 PM

    The decision to use Cole in this situation was both cruel and stupid. Ask a rookie to make his debut to dig an over-hyped team out of a hole? He obviously was not ready and has probably had his confidence broken forever. Meanwhile, you leave a guy who won 16 games last year on the sidelines. Unbelievable.

    I feel sorry for Cole and furious at the manager or other genius who made these decisions.

    The Nats are unwatchable and this raises real questions about the manager. This disaster is not talent. It is culture and leadership.

    • Karl Kolchak - Apr 28, 2015 at 8:45 PM

      Totally agree. And let’s be clear, RIZZO is at fault for this debacle. Williams does not have the authority to recall players from Syracuse. That’s on the GM.

    • JayB - Apr 28, 2015 at 8:52 PM

      +1

  86. Mrsb loves the Nats - Apr 28, 2015 at 8:41 PM

    Damn I thought Span would have had a triple right there
    ..

  87. Mrsb loves the Nats - Apr 28, 2015 at 8:43 PM

    I wanted to say chip away… but with 4 innings left… not too sure about this one…

  88. dcwx61 - Apr 28, 2015 at 8:46 PM

    we are just two grand slams away from winning this thing

  89. Just. Dave - Apr 28, 2015 at 8:48 PM

    Please join the fire m.w. group.

    It might light a fire under the team before it is too late. If the commenters on this site come to a consensus. It will happen quickly.

    Seriously.

  90. dcwx61 - Apr 28, 2015 at 8:49 PM

    whoa oh..
    just one grand slam away

    • Ghost of Steve M. - Apr 28, 2015 at 8:49 PM

      This is true. That Lobo fly ball carried.

  91. Eric - Apr 28, 2015 at 8:49 PM

    OMG, I have CHILLS. LOBATON!!!

  92. Mrsb loves the Nats - Apr 28, 2015 at 8:49 PM

    Alright…. way to frickin go Jose… keep the line moving…

    • natslive - Apr 28, 2015 at 8:50 PM

      Way to go Jose! Put that man in the lineup tomorrow!

  93. Ghost of Steve M. - Apr 28, 2015 at 8:50 PM

    Is Jayson Werth’s oldest son the bat boy?

  94. dcwx61 - Apr 28, 2015 at 8:51 PM

    and if they pulled cole a bit earlier…this would really be somethin

    • Mrsb loves the Nats - Apr 28, 2015 at 8:53 PM

      I was thinking this.. but I was not going to say it…

      • nats128 - Apr 28, 2015 at 8:59 PM

        If he made the catch at 1st base! 5 unearned runs after that!

  95. Mrsb loves the Nats - Apr 28, 2015 at 8:59 PM

    Alright offense…. LETS DO THIS….

  96. nats128 - Apr 28, 2015 at 9:02 PM

    Right to Markakis.

  97. dcwx61 - Apr 28, 2015 at 9:04 PM

    r u kidding me!!

  98. Mrsb loves the Nats - Apr 28, 2015 at 9:04 PM

    I’LL BE DAMNED!!!!!! WAY TO GO SPAN MY MAN…

  99. rlndtln - Apr 28, 2015 at 9:04 PM

    Down 4 in the 6th and no hitter for Roark who was only going to go 50 pitches.He is near that now.imagine Span just hit one out.

  100. rlndtln - Apr 28, 2015 at 9:05 PM

    Everybody back watching.

    • Mrsb loves the Nats - Apr 28, 2015 at 9:14 PM

      I don’t think anyone ever stopped…

    • scnatsfan - Apr 28, 2015 at 9:15 PM

      Not me. I figure it is good luck that I’m looking away.

  101. Mrsb loves the Nats - Apr 28, 2015 at 9:07 PM

    Win or lose… gotta love the fight from the ball club… maybe this is the game to FINALLY turn things around…

  102. dcwx61 - Apr 28, 2015 at 9:09 PM

    a desmond walk…you know the tide is turning

  103. nattygoats - Apr 28, 2015 at 9:11 PM

    Love the bats waking up. Too bad MW started his high school son at pitcher.

  104. Karl Kolchak - Apr 28, 2015 at 9:14 PM

    Here’s some fun…if you add Uggla’s batting average to Werth’s, you STILL don’t have a .300 hitter.

  105. Ghost of Steve M. - Apr 28, 2015 at 9:18 PM

    Not a shutdown performance by Tanner. Again I’m baffled if Roark was on a pitch count, why didn’t you pinch-hit for him in the top of the 6th?

    • Karl Kolchak - Apr 28, 2015 at 9:20 PM

      Roark is now up to 12.1 innings pitched this year without a strikeout, which is worrying…but far down the list of problems this team has right now.

      As for why they didn’t pinch hit for him, probably because the pitch count excuse was just that…an excuse.

      • nats128 - Apr 28, 2015 at 9:23 PM

        MW once again doesn’t anticipate. Had it to a 3 run game and should have pinch-hit. Since your on the road, if you are losing, you only need to pitch the 6th, 7th and 8th. If your winning, great news, you have 4 innings left for the remaining 5 members of the bullpen.

    • Just. Dave - Apr 28, 2015 at 9:22 PM

      Ghost, please like my comment above Join us in calling for the head of Matt Williams. He is not ready for the job. He will bounce back somewhere else he has MOTY on his resume.

      Motto: sorry , but Williams has to go.

      • Ghost of Steve M. - Apr 28, 2015 at 9:25 PM

        I have a laundry list of things that p*$$ me off about MW but I’m not ready to throw him under the bus just yet.

    • dcwx61 - Apr 28, 2015 at 9:24 PM

      +1

      • Just. Dave - Apr 28, 2015 at 9:34 PM

        You will come around Ghost. I figure it is inevitable, how many games must we lose before the one thing that might light a fire is done. Nothing personal, but the team is lacking confidence.

      • Ghost of Steve M. - Apr 28, 2015 at 11:12 PM

        Just.Dave, my biggest issue about MW is he didn’t manage the starters well as they were stretching out and gaining arm strength. The first 2 weeks he treated them like it was June 1st.

  106. rlndtln - Apr 28, 2015 at 9:20 PM

    Like I said MW should have hit for Roark and we may have had another run.With 5 lefties coming up in the 6th he could have then brought in Thornton.No he waits till Freeman kills him again and they get a run and 2 men on no outs ,now thornton.MW sucks.

    • Guapo - Apr 28, 2015 at 9:25 PM

      MW lost this game when he penciled in a Rookie starter rather than the guy who had a 12th best in the NL 2.85 ERA as a starter last year. He is not good a managing baseball teams.

      • adcwonk - Apr 28, 2015 at 9:32 PM

        It was a reasonable decision that didn’t work. Starting Roark was a guarantee that you’d burn the bullpen because he’s not stretched out. Starting Cole had a chance of not doing that. It didn’t work. That doesn’t make it as bad a decision as so many here are making it.

      • Karl Kolchak - Apr 28, 2015 at 9:33 PM

        Once again, the manager does not have the authority to call up players from the minors. Cole starting this game is on Rizzo, not Williams.

        Having said that, I agree that he has been terrible at managing this team this season.

  107. Nats Fan Zee - Apr 28, 2015 at 9:22 PM

    I know I’m going to take heat from some but I think we can win this friggin game!

  108. Ghost of Steve M. - Apr 28, 2015 at 9:31 PM

    I want to see a Nats 30 year old hit the ball as hard as Pierzynski did.

  109. Mrsb loves the Nats - Apr 28, 2015 at 9:32 PM

    I thought Roark did a good job tonight for the most part… thought Cole should have been pulled when the score was 4-1..

    I commend thr guys for hustling back….. 7 runs is encouraging…..

    • nats128 - Apr 28, 2015 at 9:38 PM

      Didnt Roark give up 2 runs in 4 innings. Thats not good. He also left the game with 2 on and no out. His line score could have been much worse.

  110. dcwx61 - Apr 28, 2015 at 9:33 PM

    like the wild avalan

  111. manassasnatsfan - Apr 28, 2015 at 9:34 PM

    I got out of work in time to hear the Loboton homer.

    Now home.

    Last night I calked for Roark to start. More sure of course now.

    The last 4 games pitchers have given up 8-6-8-11 so far.

    The hitters not alone in the problem department.

  112. nats128 - Apr 28, 2015 at 9:37 PM

    Not a good time for Danny trying to pull outside pitches. Go with the darn pitch! Perfect pitch to serve in to RF

  113. manassasnatsfan - Apr 28, 2015 at 9:37 PM

    Why do we try pulling outside pitches?

    Batting 101 says go the other way.

    That’s why I want Knight as the hitting coach as he understands this. Schu might understands it but doesn’t demand it.

  114. Mrsb loves the Nats - Apr 28, 2015 at 9:38 PM

    Hell yeah baby!?!?!?!?!?!?!?

  115. Joe Seamhead - Apr 28, 2015 at 9:38 PM

    Wow, Flying Pigs!

  116. dcwx61 - Apr 28, 2015 at 9:39 PM

    The sleeping giants have awoken

  117. Ghost of Steve M. - Apr 28, 2015 at 9:39 PM

    PINCH HIT DOUBLE by Reed Johnson!

  118. manassasnatsfan - Apr 28, 2015 at 9:39 PM

    You guys might hate Uggla, but both the last 2 nights he has taken one on the outside pitches the other way.

    Now Johnson does it.

    In hitting 101

  119. Mrsb loves the Nats - Apr 28, 2015 at 9:39 PM

    Ahahaaahhahahhahahahahhahahahha……. NATS CLASSIC IN THE MAKING…

    • manassasnatsfan - Apr 28, 2015 at 9:45 PM

      Reminds me of the one in 2012 with all that crappy rain when we were winning 9-0 or maybe 1 and the rain came, then when resumed we lost 11-10

  120. Ghost of Steve M. - Apr 28, 2015 at 9:39 PM

    Nice Uggla shot. What a game by Dan U

  121. Joe Seamhead - Apr 28, 2015 at 9:40 PM

    I’ve been hard on Uggla’s, but give credit where credit is due. Great hit! And how about that Reed Johnson guy?

  122. dcwx61 - Apr 28, 2015 at 9:43 PM

    michael taylor got a ticket ?

  123. Mrsb loves the Nats - Apr 28, 2015 at 9:43 PM

    Uhm… Fister… not sure…

    PLEASE NO ACHILLES INJURIES…

  124. nats128 - Apr 28, 2015 at 9:47 PM

    This is a Hi Lev inning now for Treinen.

  125. Mrsb loves the Nats - Apr 28, 2015 at 9:49 PM

    Come on BT…. make me eat my words I said earlier about you…

    • manassasnatsfan - Apr 28, 2015 at 9:53 PM

      Given up runs 5 of 8 games. Totally not acceptable for a one inning guy.

  126. nats128 - Apr 28, 2015 at 9:50 PM

    Hit 2 feet to the right of Ryan Zimmerman. It was a ball that could have been fielded. Excuses from FP. Just say nothing.

    • manassasnatsfan - Apr 28, 2015 at 9:54 PM

      Our fielding coordinator never puts us in the right place.

  127. manassasnatsfan - Apr 28, 2015 at 9:50 PM

    In 2015 Freeman hit just about .500 against us, buut only batted 270 or so for the season meaning he bats about 240 against everyone else .

    What do the other teams do that McCatty doesn’t have our guys do?

  128. manassasnatsfan - Apr 28, 2015 at 9:52 PM

    Please I ask every time, why is Trainan here? First two games he was fine, last game fine. 5 of the 8 games he has stunk.

    • nats128 - Apr 28, 2015 at 9:53 PM

      If Ryan Zimmerman stabs the grounder from Freeman its inning over. Degree of difficulty was tough but thats a play you need him to make.

      • manassasnatsfan - Apr 28, 2015 at 9:56 PM

        On the other hand if he would miss more bats it wouldn’t happen either.

      • Danny - Apr 28, 2015 at 9:56 PM

        That was a clear knock all the way. Zim was playing the line after holding the runner.

      • Joe Seamhead - Apr 28, 2015 at 9:59 PM

        I’m with Danny on this one. Ryan was holding the runner.

      • nats128 - Apr 28, 2015 at 10:22 PM

        He was and released and was there as the ball was hit almost right at him. Its a reflex play and he didnt get it.

  129. Mrsb loves the Nats - Apr 28, 2015 at 9:55 PM

    I knew 1 run was gonna score… I have no faith in BT ..

    • manassasnatsfan - Apr 28, 2015 at 9:57 PM

      He hasn’t earned the trust yet.

  130. manassasnatsfan - Apr 28, 2015 at 9:58 PM

    Why is Desi batting second?

    • Ghost of Steve M. - Apr 28, 2015 at 9:59 PM

      Great question. I thought that ship had sailed.

      • Mrsb loves the Nats - Apr 28, 2015 at 10:09 PM

        Gotta guess that he wouldn’t be batting that high if Escobar was hitting….

  131. Ghost of Steve M. - Apr 28, 2015 at 9:58 PM

    Redskins need a Field Goal here to beat the Falcons.

  132. veejh - Apr 28, 2015 at 9:59 PM

    The only way Treinen is gonna learn to pitch to big leaguers is to let him pitch to big leaguers. Either you got it or you don’t. Just let him plug away, something will click soon enough.

    • manassasnatsfan - Apr 28, 2015 at 10:14 PM

      Or it won’t. But you are right at least we will know.

  133. veejh - Apr 28, 2015 at 9:59 PM

    The only way Treinen is gonna learn to pitch to big leaguers is to let him pitch to big leaguers. Either you got it or you don’t. Just let him plug away, something will click soon enough.

    • Ghost of Steve M. - Apr 28, 2015 at 10:19 PM

      He has electric stuff. He’s close. I just wonder if he has the head for it.

  134. Mrsb loves the Nats - Apr 28, 2015 at 10:00 PM

    Good Lord Jayson…

  135. manassasnatsfan - Apr 28, 2015 at 10:01 PM

    Take the outside pitches to right.

  136. Ghost of Steve M. - Apr 28, 2015 at 10:05 PM

    No freebies Treinen.

  137. veejh - Apr 28, 2015 at 10:10 PM

    Not to be negative, but being down 9-1 and coming back only to lose 12-10 or whatever it may end up being, will not help the team to get out of this slump right now, imho.

    I’m not saying we won’t win, but if we don’t, this game does nothing but ruffle more feathers.

    • adcwonk - Apr 28, 2015 at 10:15 PM

      I don’t think that’s necessarily the case. A number of the hitters may feel like their breaking out, finally. The team as a whole may feel like they’ve got some fight in themselves, battling back like this.

      • veejh - Apr 28, 2015 at 10:17 PM

        fair enough

      • veejh - Apr 28, 2015 at 10:17 PM

        fair enough

    • dcwx61 - Apr 28, 2015 at 10:15 PM

      scoring 10 runs with this lineup is a victory

  138. manassasnatsfan - Apr 28, 2015 at 10:12 PM

    Trainan must not had Dale Larson as a high school coach. When there is a man on second, and the ball is hit like that and the runner runs on the grass you hit him.

    Ball is dead runner goes back to second, with replay now, Braves would never win it.

    Of course we covered that play, and the fielding coordinator never did.

    Used it once and it worked.

    • Karl Kolchak - Apr 28, 2015 at 10:17 PM

      With this team’s defensive struggles, I’m glad Treinen didn’t try it. He probably would have ended up chucking the ball into the stands.

      • manassasnatsfan - Apr 28, 2015 at 10:19 PM

        I guess he could of.

    • adcwonk - Apr 28, 2015 at 10:33 PM

      Freddie Freeman now 0-for-10 lifetime against Storen.

  139. manassasnatsfan - Apr 28, 2015 at 10:18 PM

    Or it won’t. But you are right at least we will know.

  140. Ghost of Steve M. - Apr 28, 2015 at 10:18 PM

    Awful at-bat by Ryan Zimmerman. Has to make contact and get on base. You can’t hit a 3 run HR there.

  141. manassasnatsfan - Apr 28, 2015 at 10:20 PM

    +2

  142. manassasnatsfan - Apr 28, 2015 at 10:21 PM

    Quit trying to pull outside pitches

  143. Mrsb loves the Nats - Apr 28, 2015 at 10:22 PM

    Ohhhhh…. I thought that was a K….

  144. manassasnatsfan - Apr 28, 2015 at 10:22 PM

    Wow looked like a k, make them pay for the mistake.

  145. manassasnatsfan - Apr 28, 2015 at 10:23 PM

    Hanging slider high. If its high let it fly

  146. nats128 - Apr 28, 2015 at 10:23 PM

    OK Dan. Time to mash.

    • nats128 - Apr 28, 2015 at 10:24 PM

      I love it! Called it!

  147. veejh - Apr 28, 2015 at 10:24 PM

    Holy cow!!!!!!

    Wow!!!!!!

  148. manassasnatsfan - Apr 28, 2015 at 10:24 PM

    Ugggggggggla

  149. dcwx61 - Apr 28, 2015 at 10:24 PM

    oh my…..one of the top 5 nats games ever

  150. Mrsb loves the Nats - Apr 28, 2015 at 10:24 PM

    Ohhhhhhhh&Ohhhhhhhh&hhh myyyyyyyyyy frrrrrriiiiiikkkkkkkkinnnnnnn ggggggggoooooooooodddddddddddddddddd

  151. NatsNut - Apr 28, 2015 at 10:24 PM

    Whoa!!!

  152. veejh - Apr 28, 2015 at 10:25 PM

    Now a game like THIS, can turn a season around. Wooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooo!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

    • TimDz - Apr 28, 2015 at 10:29 PM

      word…

  153. Ghost of Steve M. - Apr 28, 2015 at 10:25 PM

    Those of you who kept telling me Uggla was garbage. If that’s garbage, then I don’t know what to tell you.

  154. Mrsb loves the Nats - Apr 28, 2015 at 10:25 PM

    Holly effing moly…..

  155. manassasnatsfan - Apr 28, 2015 at 10:25 PM

    Storen has to hold them

  156. Joe Seamhead - Apr 28, 2015 at 10:25 PM

    UFB! I take back every bad thing I said about Uggla.

  157. Drew - Apr 28, 2015 at 10:26 PM

    Like this game, Cole is off the hook.

    Oh my God.

  158. natslive - Apr 28, 2015 at 10:26 PM

    Wow just WOW! Can’t believe Uggla

  159. Karl Kolchak - Apr 28, 2015 at 10:26 PM

    That’s how you get payback for Escobar!

  160. TimDz - Apr 28, 2015 at 10:27 PM

    I got yer chop right here….

  161. Sec 3, My Sofa - Apr 28, 2015 at 10:27 PM

    I’m taking full credit for this. I have diligently stopped watching.

  162. manassasnatsfan - Apr 28, 2015 at 10:27 PM

    Uggla seeing ball better suddenly.

    • Ghost of Steve M. - Apr 28, 2015 at 10:31 PM

      It’s called playing time and some extra motivation. For anyone that actually saw Spring Training, Uggla was hitting them, he just was unlucky as can happen in Small Sample Sizes.

  163. Ghost of Steve M. - Apr 28, 2015 at 10:28 PM

    Span just needed the triple for a cycle!

  164. dcwx61 - Apr 28, 2015 at 10:28 PM

    could have been the cycle

  165. NatsNut - Apr 28, 2015 at 10:28 PM

    I swear Drew Storen. Don’t you DARE mess this up.

  166. manassasnatsfan - Apr 28, 2015 at 10:28 PM

    If he was running to start with , that possibly was a triple.

  167. Mrsb loves the Nats - Apr 28, 2015 at 10:28 PM

    Hahahahahahahahaaahah…. I was thinking CYCLE…. I REALLY WAS…

  168. Mrsb loves the Nats - Apr 28, 2015 at 10:29 PM

    Gosh dang it desi…. I frickin hate first pitch swinging… why why why why

    • manassasnatsfan - Apr 28, 2015 at 10:30 PM

      I hate unproductive first ball hitting.

  169. manassasnatsfan - Apr 28, 2015 at 10:29 PM

    Desmond we needed insurance, was it to much to ask.

  170. section309 - Apr 28, 2015 at 10:29 PM

    If store blows this rizzos getting chapman

    • Mrsb loves the Nats - Apr 28, 2015 at 10:36 PM

      If Nats can get Chapman for cheap, I think he should regardless of what Drew does tonight..

  171. Allnats - Apr 28, 2015 at 10:30 PM

    I never thought I’d say this, but thank god for uggla!!!!!

  172. rlndtln - Apr 28, 2015 at 10:30 PM

    Uggla may keep his job with Johnson injury.

  173. Mrsb loves the Nats - Apr 28, 2015 at 10:31 PM

    Oh lord… I havent turned away all night… I might just do it now…

    Please keep me posted.

    Frickin hate Freeman… ugh

    • manassasnatsfan - Apr 28, 2015 at 10:34 PM

      Freeman flies to left

    • manassasnatsfan - Apr 28, 2015 at 10:36 PM

      Then he walks AJ. No ball close. Why?

    • manassasnatsfan - Apr 28, 2015 at 10:37 PM

      Sharp one to Uggla bobbles but gets force at second, johnny Homes up

  174. Ghost of Steve M. - Apr 28, 2015 at 10:32 PM

    To Karl Kolchak, Uggla + Werth now hitting .336 if you add them together. Not great but a vast improvement.

  175. nattygoats - Apr 28, 2015 at 10:32 PM

    Cmon Storen. Save our season. NOW PLEASE!!!!!!

    • dcwx61 - Apr 28, 2015 at 10:35 PM

      keep your eyes on the ball, your hands upon the wheel.

  176. manassasnatsfan - Apr 28, 2015 at 10:33 PM

    Last year Freeman 288 overall. 500 against us 240 against everyone else.

    What is McCatty teaching wrong, that every other team has figured out.

    • adcwonk - Apr 28, 2015 at 10:45 PM

      I think that’s silly to put that on McCatty

  177. Ghost of Steve M. - Apr 28, 2015 at 10:33 PM

    This is now Drew Storen’s chance at redemption.

  178. Ghost of Steve M. - Apr 28, 2015 at 10:35 PM

    No freebies Drew.

  179. veejh - Apr 28, 2015 at 10:35 PM

    Walk?! Why, Drew, why?

  180. nats128 - Apr 28, 2015 at 10:36 PM

    This Barves team is loaded with lefties.

  181. Sec 3, My Sofa - Apr 28, 2015 at 10:36 PM

    I know, but if you let Pierczynski beat you after all this, you’re nuts.

  182. Mrsb loves the Nats - Apr 28, 2015 at 10:36 PM

    Ugh… he walked someone…. oh lord..

  183. sunshinebobby - Apr 28, 2015 at 10:37 PM

    Had ’em all the way!

  184. nats128 - Apr 28, 2015 at 10:37 PM

    Why not get the heart rates up! HOLY SHIP!!!!!!!!!

  185. dcwx61 - Apr 28, 2015 at 10:38 PM

    holy freaking moley!

  186. manassasnatsfan - Apr 28, 2015 at 10:38 PM

    Tliner to left we win

  187. veejh - Apr 28, 2015 at 10:38 PM

    Amazing comeback win. Really. I fully expect the good Nats team to just have been reborn.

  188. veejh - Apr 28, 2015 at 10:38 PM

    Amazing comeback win. Really. I fully expect the good Nats team to just have been reborn.

  189. Sec 3, My Sofa - Apr 28, 2015 at 10:38 PM

    DREEEEEEWWWWWWWWWW.

  190. Mrsb loves the Nats - Apr 28, 2015 at 10:38 PM

    YAY NATS WIN ON MY BIRTHDAY!!!!!! NATS WIN ON MY BIRTHDAY!!!!!

    • rayvil01 - Apr 28, 2015 at 10:39 PM

      Happy Birthday! You got a great present.

    • Ghost of Steve M. - Apr 28, 2015 at 10:39 PM

      Happy birthday to my twin! Hearts to you!

    • veejh - Apr 28, 2015 at 10:39 PM

      Solid present from the team. Happy BDay.

    • dcwx61 - Apr 28, 2015 at 10:40 PM

      AWESOME!!!! Happy Birthday, Mrs B.
      a memorable birthday for sure

    • Mrsb loves the Nats - Apr 28, 2015 at 10:41 PM

      Thanks everyone… man I was depressed earlier… but I said I’m sticking with it…

      So frickin glad I did!!!!

  191. Ghost of Steve M. - Apr 28, 2015 at 10:39 PM

    Funnest thing is you saw all the t*rds flush themselves down the toilet and disappear. Go back and see. Where are they? Where is SWM Ritalin?

    • rayvil01 - Apr 28, 2015 at 10:41 PM

      This post thread will make a great transcript. So much for “No heart.”

  192. ehay2k - Apr 28, 2015 at 10:39 PM

    Watched the whole thing, skipped all the posts. This team doesn’t quit!

    GYFNG!

  193. dcwx61 - Apr 28, 2015 at 10:39 PM

    I didn’t see it coming until 8:36 pm after the awesome Nats double play

    dcwx61 – Apr 28, 2015 at 8:36 PM
    the DP that turns the whole season around

    I’ll try better next time

  194. Sec 3, My Sofa - Apr 28, 2015 at 10:40 PM

    WoooooooooooooooooooooooHoooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooo.

    TM Michele

  195. Ghost of Steve M. - Apr 28, 2015 at 10:41 PM

    What the heck is wrong with Dan Kolko’s stupid questions. Can this team win? Did he really ask that or is my brain fried.

    • rayvil01 - Apr 28, 2015 at 10:42 PM

      If your brain isn’t fried after this game, it’s missing a hell of a chance.

      • Ghost of Steve M. - Apr 28, 2015 at 10:44 PM

        What a game. They never gave up. Whittled away and got it close. Congrats to Dan Uggla. I just don’t know why so many here cr@pped all over him all Spring Training and into the season.

  196. Nats Fan Zee - Apr 28, 2015 at 10:42 PM

    I told ya we could win this friggin game!!!!

  197. AlexandriaNatFan - Apr 28, 2015 at 10:43 PM

    I think I woke the neighbors up with my expletives shouted in pent up frustration finally released against Craplanta. And I’m amused that Uggla is the one who got to flush the toilet on that one. Yes. I went there. And it was fantastic. Wow. What a game.

  198. infideljack - Apr 29, 2015 at 2:54 AM

    I love the chop when they are doomed. I love how Uggla gets his revenge in a game where they hadad an 8 run lead after 2 innings.
    I still remember Hanoi Jane and traitor Ted doing the chop.. I will never lose my feelings of disgust for the Braves.
    I have a similar hatred of the Orioles.

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