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Game 20: Nats at Braves

Apr 27, 2015, 3:39 PM EST

Mark Zuckerman / NATS INSIDER

ATLANTA — Hello from Turner Field, where the Nationals arrive reeling from a 5-game losing streak and weekend sweep in Miami, hoping tonight is the night things take a turn for the better. They’ll of course need a better offensive showing against Braves left-hander Eric Stults than they had over the last few days against the Marlins.

Matt Williams is trying a bit of a new luck with his lineup: Ryan Zimmerman will bat second tonight. He did it once last year (on Opening Day, actually) and did it 42 times in 2013 when Davey Johnson was manager. We’ll see if it makes a difference tonight.

Doug Fister gets the ball against a Braves lineup that looks much different than the last time we saw it. To wit: A.J. Pierzynski is batting cleanup.

Updates to come…

WASHINGTON NATIONALS at ATLANTA BRAVES
Where:
Turner Field, Atlanta
Gametime: 7:10 p.m. EDT
TV: MASN, ESPN (outside D.C. market), MLB.tv
Radio: 99.1 FM, XM 869
Weather: Partly cloudy, 68 degrees, Wind 9 mph LF to RF

NATIONALS
CF Denard Span
1B Ryan Zimmerman
LF Jayson Werth
CF Bryce Harper
3B Yunel Escobar
SS Ian Desmond
C Wilson Ramos
2B Danny Espinosa
RHP Doug Fister

BRAVES
RF Nick Markakis
SS Andrelton Simmons
1B Freddie Freeman
C A.J. Pierzynski
3B Alberto Callaspo
LF Kelly Johnson
2B Jace Peterson
CF Eric Young Jr.
LHP Eric Stults

UMPIRES
HP Bill Welke
1B James Hoye
2B John Tumpane
3B John Hirschbeck (cc)

7:10 p.m. — And we’re underway on a 64-degree night here at Turner Field. Small gathering on a Monday night.

7:27 p.m. — Doug Fister’s command hasn’t been quite what we’ve come to expect so far this season, and it certainly wasn’t in the bottom of the first tonight. He walked the first batter he faced, Nick Markakis, on five pitches, then issued another walk later in the inning. In between, Freddie Freeman doubled down the right-field line and A.J. Pierzynski sent a flyball to medium left field that was deep enough to bring Markakis home. So the Nats already are staring up at a 1-0 deficit, something they certainly didn’t want to face tonight.

7:41 p.m. — Better stuff from Fister in the bottom of the second, despite a leadoff single by Jace Peterson. Fister made up for it by picking off Peterson at second base to end the inning. The Nats, on the other hand, have hit several balls hard (including drives to the warning track by both Ryan Zimmerman and Ian Desmond) but have nothing to show for it so far. Still 1-0 Atlanta after two.

7:59 p.m. — The Nats are on the board, thanks to doubles from Espinosa (his first hit in six at-bats against lefties this season) and Zimmerman (who roped one down the left-field line for a 2-out RBI). Zim also made a pair of impressive plays at first base in the bottom of the inning, including one in which he somehow kept his right foot (the injured one) on the bag despite a way-off-target throw from Escobar. So it’s 1-1 after three now.

8:18 p.m. — The Braves get one back in the bottom of the fourth, thanks to back-to back singles from Callaspo and Johnson to open the inning. Callaspo wound up scoring on Peterson’s sac fly to center, though Span did double up Johnson trying to take second on the play, so the Nats traded one run for two outs. It’s 2-1 Atlanta after four.

8:41 p.m. — Oh boy, another injury for the Nats as Escobar got spiked in the left hand by Simmons on a play at third base. Simmons knocked Escobar’s glove completely off. After a brief visit with a trainer, Escobar was led off the field, with Espinosa moving to third base and Dan Uggla taking over at second. Stay tuned for updates. It’s still 2-1 Atlanta after five.

9:02 p.m. — Make it 5-1 Atlanta after a disastrous sixth inning for Fister. He served up a 2-run homer to Kelly Johnson. Then he committed his second error in as many innings on a wayward pickoff attempt. That set up a perfectly executed suicide squeeze and essentially ended Fister’s night. The Nats, who have one run on three hits through six innings for the second straight day, now need a late rally.

9:39 p.m. — This one has turned ugly, for multiple reasons. The Nats got a run in the top of the seventh to trim the lead to 5-2, but then reliever Rafael Martin entered for the bottom of the inning and on his first pitch hit Simmons in the back. The Braves dugout was incensed, believing Martin did it on purpose in retaliation for Simmons’ spiking of Escobar. Jonny Gomes, who you may remember is a bit of an emotional guy, was ejected from the Braves dugout. Umps issued warnings. And the Braves got their payback by scoring two more runs off Martin. It’s 7-2 after seven.

10:09 p.m. — Some life from the Nats in the top of the eighth, thanks to Dan Uggla’s Little League home run (triple plus error). That trimmed the deficit to 7-4, but boy it sure made those two runs surrendered by Martin after the plunking look mighty big. And then Aaron Barrett gave up another insurance run in the bottom of the eighth, making it 8-4. So they’re down to their last three outs now, needing four runs in the ninth.

10:18 p.m. — And that’s the ballgame. Nats lose 8-4. They’ve lost 6 in a row. They’re 7-13. They’re 8 games back in the NL East. Max Scherzer won’t be starting tomorrow night. And we don’t know what Yunel Escobar’s status is at the moment. Other than that…

282 Comments (Feed for Comments)
  1. Tyler Babip - Apr 27, 2015 at 3:41 PM

    Light up the lefty, Nationals!

  2. Section 222 - Apr 27, 2015 at 3:47 PM

    I really hope Uggla gets at least one start in Atlanta. 🙂

  3. Mrsb loves the Nats - Apr 27, 2015 at 3:48 PM

    Why not Escobar in the 2 hole?

    • adcwonk - Apr 27, 2015 at 3:59 PM

      That was my first thought, too. He’s got the second highest OBP on the team (1st is Harper)!

    • Steady Eddie - Apr 27, 2015 at 4:33 PM

      Given how he’s hitting lately, putting Escobar 5th will make it a little harder for teams to pitch around Harper than it has been with RZim’s underperforming bat lately.

      And maybe if Span is on first, it will encourage RZim to be more focused in hitting to RF (though it seems like he’s had a fair number of loud outs to right lately).

  4. cosmova - Apr 27, 2015 at 3:53 PM

    I believe that ESPN games during the week are no longer blacked out. That means that anyone sick of Bob and FP has an alternative tonight.

    • adcwonk - Apr 27, 2015 at 4:47 PM

      Unfortunately, the last time I saw the Nats on ESPN, the guys in the booth knew next to nothing about the Nats. No idea if it’s the same guys tonight.

    • sec105rowwseat28 - Apr 27, 2015 at 4:55 PM

      No, they’re still blacked out in the local markets of the two teams playing. Just like games on MLB Network. If they weren’t blacked out, then Bob and FP wouldn’t be working tonight.

  5. tcostant - Apr 27, 2015 at 3:55 PM

    This lineup is a joke. Now I’m torn, I want them to win, but if they do I know MW will roll this lineup out again. Circular error!

    • pdowdy83 - Apr 27, 2015 at 4:00 PM

      I’m not sure why you refer to this lineup as a joke. To me some of it looks logical, especially against a lefty. Bryce gets on base a lot. Escobar puts the ball in play a lot. Those two back to back in the lineup makes a good deal of sense to me. Obviously Ryan batting 2nd is different and may or may not work but trying something different to kick start an offense isn’t the worst thing.

      I think on this forum MW is damned if he does/damned if he doesn’t.

      • tcostant - Apr 27, 2015 at 4:04 PM

        Rzimm can’t run, if he gets on base he is base to base. If Escobar hits in front of Desi, you may as well trade Desi now and make Escobar the SS. It’s a joke that is not funny.

      • Steady Eddie - Apr 27, 2015 at 4:38 PM

        You don’ know that RZim can’t run today. Plantar fascitis is apparently a very day-tyo-day thing. For all you know, Zim could have told MW his foot feels fine today. (Yeah, he lies “all the time” to the media but I bet he doesn’t to MW. His position with the team is plenty secure enough to let him be straight with MW.)

      • therealjohnc - Apr 27, 2015 at 5:14 PM

        Escobar is not a particularly fast baserunner, and even if Ryan is considered “station-to-station” the only guy he’s blocking is Werth. While Werth runs well for a player his age, he’s no speed merchant.

        Besides, the “clogging up the basepath” argument really should have been flushed along with Dusty Baker. Give me lots of baserunners, I’ll take my chances.

        As for Escobar hitting in front of Desmond, I’ll just note that MW is routinely toasted for not playing the hot hand, and in this case is being toasted for going with the hot hand. which leads back to pdowdy’s point that MW is damned if he does/damned if he doesn’t.

      • Section 222 - Apr 27, 2015 at 6:26 PM

        +1 to pdowdy. It’s the same personnel just rearranged. The order isn’t going to make that much of a difference, and it’s certainly not ridiculous to try this. Maybe if Zim doesn’t feel like he has to be the big bopper, he’ll relax and get some hits. He certainly can hit behind the runner. Who knows what will happen? And if they win, I can’t figure out why anyone would complain. Isn’t that the goal?

    • nats106 - Apr 27, 2015 at 4:09 PM

      I heard Zimm got a hoveround for circling the bases, so it’s OK.

      You got to admire him for consecutive games played. That plantar stuff really hurts. When I had it I could barely get out of bed in the morning. I saw the posts about leadership. That’s one by example.

    • Sec 3, My Sofa - Apr 27, 2015 at 4:34 PM

      Aside from putting the better hitters at the top to get more at-bats, it really doesn’t matter what order they hit in. They might as well hit where they feel comfy, but it doesn’t change the odds enough to matter.

      • Eugene in Oregon - Apr 27, 2015 at 5:21 PM

        +1

  6. nats106 - Apr 27, 2015 at 4:04 PM

    The DOA calls for a 5-2 win for the good guys. Probable unearned run could move score to a 5-3 win.

    Here is the rundown:

    DOA (Doug’s Objective Analysis) game assessment
    SS Simmons vs Desmond It’s still April, so I’ll take Simmons, thank you. I acknowledge that Desmond’s annual Chuck Knoblauch Yips award initiative may be ending as May 1st is Friday.
    1B Freeman vs Zimmerman Sorry Ryan I’ll go with Freddie
    2B Peterson vs Espinosa Espinosa-Jace is an unknown though. Can anyone here play this game?
    3B Callaspo vs Escobar Escobar-hands down. Even if he gets Desmonditis
    LF K Johnson vs Werth Werth The south’s version of Lombo
    CF E Young vs Span Span (or his given name, Denardo la Vinci, the virtuoso of Center field)
    RF Markakis vs Harper Harper (but barely-Markakis is raking give me a HR tonight, Bryce)
    C Pierzynski vs. Ramos Pierzynski and the hot hand. Ramos can redeem with no bonehead plays.

    Position players: Advantage : Nationals 5 Braves 3

    Pitching Matchup: Stults vs Fister Advantage: Nationals

    Pitch around Freeman and let the rest take care of itself.

    Manager matchup: Gonzalez vs Williams call it a draw-both Managers working the lineup to give the other manager an advantage.

    Best chance for Nationals to win by 3 runs or more is tonight. They can afford to commit, and still win:
    1. 2 errors or
    2. 1 error and 2 bonehead plays or
    3. 1 error and 1 bullpen blown hold or
    4. 2 bullpen blown holds
    Blown save resulting in a tie game = Loss in extras or bottom of 9th.

    DOA (Doug’s Objective Analysis) series assessment (subject to modification):
    Nationals 2 of 3 (if fielding is good Wednesday) Sweep would have been possible if Scherzer were able to go Tuesday.

    Monday: Curly W bold and in CAPS. That is a DOA guarantee win or I hang my cyber head in shame the rest of the season.

    Tuesday: Put the big L on the forehead if Nationals are, in fact, pitching Cole.
    Teheran vs. Cole: Advantage Braves

    Wednesday Curly w (not capitalized) lack of confidence driven by Nationals need to reduce errors/bonehead plays by at least one (possibly more) since the Braves are committing half the errors the Nationals are, unless of course, Desmond in not included.
    Zimmerman vs. Wood Error free ball and a no holds/saves blown gives this game to the Nationals.

    There you have it. Never before a prediction so bold in it’s detail. (and likely wrong in the end result). As wrong as I might be, still gotta say:

    GO NATS

    • Section 222 - Apr 27, 2015 at 4:24 PM

      Well played Doug. I’ll be happy with 2 of 3. I could quibble with your rankings, but the Braves really are a sorry lot this year. Nats need to feast on them and get back in the hunt for the NL East title.

      • Sec 3, My Sofa - Apr 27, 2015 at 4:30 PM

        You realize what you just did there, right?

        (half in jest, but only half)

      • Section 222 - Apr 27, 2015 at 4:50 PM

        Did you mean to address this to me? What am I missing?

    • ICYMI - Apr 27, 2015 at 5:01 PM

      It’s a baseball game, not a boxing card. So position by position matchups mean squat.

      • nats106 - Apr 27, 2015 at 5:49 PM

        Right. and I think WAR UZR and BABIP means squat. When drill right down to it, unless you diagnose every single hit against a pitcher, BA against pitchers means squat as well.

        As a matter of fact, this post means squat.

    • NatsLady - Apr 27, 2015 at 5:54 PM

      Oh, I really like Denardo la Vinci! That’s keeper.

  7. sunshinebobby - Apr 27, 2015 at 4:28 PM

    This is a AAAA lineup for the Barves, that’s for sure…

    • Ghost of Steve M. - Apr 27, 2015 at 5:19 PM

      I see names like Freeman and that’s enough to make me nervous. I never want to downplay an opponent. Look what Tom Koehler and Dan Haren did to the Nats.

      • masterfishkeeper - Apr 27, 2015 at 5:26 PM

        And Latos. Amazingly bad output in Miami. Let’s hope the team slump ends tonight.

      • Ghost of Steve M. - Apr 27, 2015 at 5:28 PM

        Good point.

    • nattygoats - Apr 27, 2015 at 5:41 PM

      Should be enough.

  8. cosmova - Apr 27, 2015 at 4:43 PM

    I’m a bit worried that Stults will have a career outing against us as our offense can’t seem to adjust to mediocre pitchers.

  9. adcwonk - Apr 27, 2015 at 5:17 PM

    The Braves were 6-1, and then went 3-8 over their other 11 games. Let’s hope they’re still sinking . . .

  10. nattygoats - Apr 27, 2015 at 5:39 PM

    Was really hoping (even though right handed) the buffalo was benched a game. He is awful.

    • natsjackinfl - Apr 27, 2015 at 5:53 PM

      And the last game Lobatan started, he struck out 4 times. Ramos is worse than that?

  11. Ghost of Steve M. - Apr 27, 2015 at 5:41 PM

    Rendon is not in the Harrisburg Senators lineup now.

    • sec105rowwseat28 - Apr 27, 2015 at 5:54 PM

      Scheduled day off. Announced yesterday.

      • nats128 - Apr 27, 2015 at 6:05 PM

        Sunday was the scheduled day off. Was supposed to play 7 innings today. The official word is that he was scratched for “fatigue”.

      • Section 222 - Apr 27, 2015 at 6:28 PM

        Nothing to see here, move along. Ooops, something to see here. Never mind.

  12. nattygoats - Apr 27, 2015 at 5:44 PM

    Really don’t know why Ramos kinda gets a pass. He is slow. He try’s to pull everything. Very average at throwing runners out. And yesterday? Well HECK.

    • jfmii - Apr 27, 2015 at 6:03 PM

      Almost all catchers are slow. Hitting is hard, and when he gets right he will get his share to the right side. And most would agree he is above average at throwing base-stealers out.

  13. nats106 - Apr 27, 2015 at 5:51 PM

    In other news, the Mets are moving to a 6 man rotation. Japan league, I believe has a 6/7 man rotation. Maybe someone can correct me on that. Regardless, I find the Mets move very interesting-if they win the division, or especially if they are the WC, they will formidable in a one game set with Harvey on the mound.

  14. erocks33 - Apr 27, 2015 at 5:52 PM

    In the 19 games played to date:
    the Nats have scored 47 total runs in Innings 1-5
    the Nats have given up 44 total runs in Innings 1-5

    the Nats have scored 15 total runs in Innings 6-9
    the Nats have given up 35 total runs in Innings 6-9

    Something here just doesn’t look right …

    • ArVAFan - Apr 27, 2015 at 6:01 PM

      Maybe it’s called the bullpen for a reason.

      Missing Stammen, Janssen and yes, Clip (or 2014 Clip, anyway). We’ve got a lot of young guys out there, some of whom may become awesome . . . but they aren’t yet. Here’s hoping that Janssen, when he gets here, provides both a good arm and good advice (heck, I’d settle for one or the other, at this point!).

    • NatsLady - Apr 27, 2015 at 5:59 PM

      Brian Kenny (on MLB Network) just blasted the Mets big-time for letting Harvey try for a complete game when he was at 91 pitches after eight innings. Showed a chart of how he gets dramatically fatigued at 100 pitches. Said they were caving to Harvey when they did that. Harvey is tough to deal with, apparently.

      • nats106 - Apr 27, 2015 at 6:10 PM

        As I recall Harvey really wanted to come back last year so may be some truth to that. It does seem inconsistent to move to a 6 man, but then not limit the pitches if a game in hand and he’s at a pitch limit. but then if he’s got a shutout going, I guess I can’t blame them.

      • NatsLady - Apr 27, 2015 at 6:25 PM

        It wasn’t a shutout. It was 8-2.

    • Section 222 - Apr 27, 2015 at 6:34 PM

      A six man rotation? I love it. It’s every uninformed poster’s favorite idea that makes no sense at all. Sure, you can stretch Harvey out that way, but it also means starting this Rafael Montero guy a bunch of times and fewer starts for DeGrom, Colon, and Niese, none of whom need to be babied.

      Well, we need every advantage we can get to catch the Mets. Hahaha.

  15. jfmii - Apr 27, 2015 at 5:58 PM

    The Nationals are 7-12. The Braves are a big-league club who are 2.5 games up on the Nationals in the standings. Take it one game at a time and assume nothing. I remember sitting in Nationals park in 2011 and even early 2012 for Phillies games and listening to all of the arrogant Phils fans taking for granted their superiority. I truly believe the Nationals will turn this around, but let’s not assume the Braves or any major league club will roll over because it is the big bad Nats coming to town. And while I believe, I, nor you all should assume the Nationals will turn this around. All of us have seen big-time favorites go by the wayside. Sometimes it doesn’t take much.

    • NatsLady - Apr 27, 2015 at 6:01 PM

      Yes. Just win THIS game. Don’t worry about the record, the standings, etc. Focus on THIS game.

      • jfmii - Apr 27, 2015 at 6:03 PM

        Agreed

  16. sec112 - Apr 27, 2015 at 6:26 PM

    Got new-posted

    Haven’t had time to post in these discussions – so catching up.

    I disagree with those who say this is a poorly constructed (by Rizzo) team or a poorly managed team. If the players were performing at their historic norms, adjusted for career trends (improvement for younger players, decline for older players), they would be winning most of their games. This is reflected in the pre-season predictions of most pundits and publications, as well as Las Vegas odds.

    But the stats don’t play the games (nor does the GM or the manager) – the players do. And with very few exceptions, they are playing very poorly. Most importantly, they are not hitting well – with the prominent exception of Bryce Harper (if he were hitting the way he is with a decent lineup around him, he’d be having a monster year – as it is he’s doing well with noone hitting around him). The fielding and pitching have also had problems, but it seems to me that they are both impacted by the absence of scoring and the resulting need for perfection – and besides, if they scored 4 runs a game, they’d be 11-8 (assuming they split the two games where the opponent won with 4 runs) in spite of errors and pitching.

    The good news is that if the players regress to career means, the team will win. Whether they will win enough to offset this start depends on how soon they regress to career means and whether the players on the upswing (Harper, Rendon) improve more or less than the players on the downswing (Werth, Zimmerman, maybe Desmond) decline. The nightmare scenario (which seems a lot more plausible today than it did 3 weeks ago) is that Zimmerman and Werth are actually in steeper than typical decline (as a result of physical ailments perhaps), Desmond’s apparent decline in the last couple years accelerates to the point that he is only slightly above average, and Ramos proves once and for all that it wasn’t injuries preventing him from breaking out as a star – it’s just that he can’t hit breaking balls. If those 4 are all significantly poorer offensively than career trends would suggest, then it is unlikely Rendon, Harper and Escobar can offset it (Span should be a little worse than last year, which was a career year – but I think that was generally expected).

    I still think they’ll pull out of this, but there is a risk to counting on 3 or 4 (depending on how you think about Ramos) players who are demonstrably in decline, since sometimes those declines can be discontinuous. Really hoping that they all manage to get back on trend . . . .

  17. sec112 - Apr 27, 2015 at 6:26 PM

    Got new-posted

    Haven’t had time to post in these discussions – so catching up.

    I disagree with those who say this is a poorly constructed (by Rizzo) team or a poorly managed team. If the players were performing at their historic norms, adjusted for career trends (improvement for younger players, decline for older players), they would be winning most of their games. This is reflected in the pre-season predictions of most pundits and publications, as well as Las Vegas odds.

    But the stats don’t play the games (nor does the GM or the manager) – the players do. And with very few exceptions, they are playing very poorly. Most importantly, they are not hitting well – with the prominent exception of Bryce Harper (if he were hitting the way he is with a decent lineup around him, he’d be having a monster year – as it is he’s doing well with noone hitting around him). The fielding and pitching have also had problems, but it seems to me that they are both impacted by the absence of scoring and the resulting need for perfection – and besides, if they scored 4 runs a game, they’d be 11-8 (assuming they split the two games where the opponent won with 4 runs) in spite of errors and pitching.

    The good news is that if the players regress to career means, the team will win. Whether they will win enough to offset this start depends on how soon they regress to career means and whether the players on the upswing (Harper, Rendon) improve more or less than the players on the downswing (Werth, Zimmerman, maybe Desmond) decline. The nightmare scenario (which seems a lot more plausible today than it did 3 weeks ago) is that Zimmerman and Werth are actually in steeper than typical decline (as a result of physical ailments perhaps), Desmond’s apparent decline in the last couple years accelerates to the point that he is only slightly above average, and Ramos proves once and for all that it wasn’t injuries preventing him from breaking out as a star – it’s just that he can’t hit breaking balls. If those 4 are all significantly poorer offensively than career trends would suggest, then it is unlikely Rendon, Harper and Escobar can offset it (Span should be a little worse than last year, which was a career year – but I think that was generally expected).

    I still think they’ll pull out of this, but there is a risk to counting on 3 or 4 (depending on how you think about Ramos) players who are demonstrably in decline, since sometimes those declines can be discontinuous. Really hoping that they all manage to get back on trend . . . .

    • jfmii - Apr 27, 2015 at 6:35 PM

      Good analysis

  18. Theophilus T.S. - Apr 27, 2015 at 6:57 PM

    Whoever bats second tonight, Rendon will be in that spot in seven days. So the shuffle at the top isn’t really about stopping the losing streak — it’s Williams’s opportunity to tell Desmond — publicly but not in front of a microphone — that he flunked his audition. The point in batting Desmond in the No. 2 spot was to improve his hitting by putting Span in front of him to get on base and put Harper behind him, to protect him and get better pitches to hit. Instead of improving his game, Desmond regressed. Williams could easily have waited until Rendon returned; this was just a thumb in the eye with taking out an ad in the newspaper

  19. scnatsfan - Apr 27, 2015 at 7:07 PM

    Not praying for it – because I don’t think prayers should be wasted on baseball – but hoping tonight is the night we turn it around. Please?

  20. natsjackinfl - Apr 27, 2015 at 7:14 PM

    Guys like Stults seem to get well against the Nats. Hopefully, not tonight.

  21. natsjackinfl - Apr 27, 2015 at 7:15 PM

    Werth catches a break and Harper fails to take advantage.

  22. nats128 - Apr 27, 2015 at 7:16 PM

    Nats catch a early break on a walk and there goes Harper swinging at the 1st pitch. What is up with these guys? You rarely see the other team swing at the 1st pitch after a walk.

  23. Mrsb loves the Nats - Apr 27, 2015 at 7:21 PM

    Walks hurt…

  24. Ghost of Steve M. - Apr 27, 2015 at 7:22 PM

    Oh Nats. Freeman should be out by a mile and the flyout to LF should be out #3. Not a good start which began with a leadoff walk.

  25. rlndtln - Apr 27, 2015 at 7:23 PM

    Fister not that the same as last year.All fly balls.

  26. Ghost of Steve M. - Apr 27, 2015 at 7:23 PM

    Blue just missed strike 3 on Callaspo. That’s unfortunate.

  27. Joe Seamhead - Apr 27, 2015 at 7:27 PM

    Fister looks like crap. Bryce mishandles Freeman’s hit two different ways and Werth makes a crappy throw. What’s new?

  28. Tyler Babip - Apr 27, 2015 at 7:28 PM

    Wow, MLB At Bat radio is piping their own ads over the local radio station’s ads. Unfortunately for me, they are at like 4x the volume of the regular ads. Anyone else getting this?

    On the game: how long has it been since Fister got three groundouts in an inning? I’m starting to get worried about the guy.

  29. Ghost of Steve M. - Apr 27, 2015 at 7:30 PM

    Desi gets robbed. Nice play by EYJr.

  30. Mrsb loves the Nats - Apr 27, 2015 at 7:31 PM

    When will these hard hit balls stop finding gloves….

    • Ghost of Steve M. - Apr 27, 2015 at 7:34 PM

      When things aren’t going your way, your BABIP doesn’t work in your favor.

  31. nattygoats - Apr 27, 2015 at 7:32 PM

    Game over a one run deficit is too much to overcome. Going to watch the riots. A lot more hitting.

    • Ghost of Steve M. - Apr 27, 2015 at 7:33 PM

      Bye. I won’t miss you.

      • nattygoats - Apr 27, 2015 at 7:35 PM

        Ah yes. Let’s take the frustration of this bad team out on the posters.

      • Ghost of Steve M. - Apr 27, 2015 at 7:38 PM

        “Game over”

        You say that 1 inning into the game and the score is 1-0.

  32. Ghost of Steve M. - Apr 27, 2015 at 7:32 PM

    The sound from the homeplate microphone sounds like it’s coming from a tunnel.

  33. nattygoats - Apr 27, 2015 at 7:34 PM

    Everything about this team stinks. And that is on MW. He has to go. Hopefully before 10 straight losses

    • Ghost of Steve M. - Apr 27, 2015 at 7:36 PM

      You and your negativity has to go like you promised us a few minutes ago. Bye.

    • Joe Seamhead - Apr 27, 2015 at 7:45 PM

      Wow! Flying Pigs! I can’t remember the last time I saw the Nats pick anybody off of second!

  34. Mrsb loves the Nats - Apr 27, 2015 at 7:35 PM

    I keep waiting for ground ball outs….

    • Ghost of Steve M. - Apr 27, 2015 at 7:38 PM

      Just got one. Unfortunately it was a Sac bunt.

  35. Mrsb loves the Nats - Apr 27, 2015 at 7:42 PM

    Perfect tag… maybe this can be the moment things turn around…

  36. Ghost of Steve M. - Apr 27, 2015 at 7:42 PM

    Wow, baserunning mistake by the Barves.

  37. natsjackinfl - Apr 27, 2015 at 7:42 PM

    Let that be the start. Please!

  38. Nats Fan Zee - Apr 27, 2015 at 7:44 PM

    The Nat’s are a big draw tonight .must be at least what, 200 – 300 tonight?

    • Ghost of Steve M. - Apr 27, 2015 at 7:46 PM

      OK, so this is a reflection on the Nats?

  39. Ghost of Steve M. - Apr 27, 2015 at 7:45 PM

    Good luck, bad luck. Espinosa deserved a triple.

  40. Ghost of Steve M. - Apr 27, 2015 at 7:46 PM

    Suicide squeeze.

  41. Joe Seamhead - Apr 27, 2015 at 7:47 PM

    Damn, Span. You gotta get I min there.

    • Joe Seamhead - Apr 27, 2015 at 7:50 PM

      I need to look before I leap. I was trying to say the Span has to get him in right there, but, oh well, thank you RZimm.

  42. Ghost of Steve M. - Apr 27, 2015 at 7:48 PM

    Good job RZim. Another 2 out RISP hit.

  43. Mrsb loves the Nats - Apr 27, 2015 at 7:48 PM

    Nice hit Espi…. I was thinking lead off triple..

  44. nats128 - Apr 27, 2015 at 7:50 PM

    Some nice hitting for the Nats.

  45. scnatsfan - Apr 27, 2015 at 7:53 PM

    1 run rally, I’ll take it

  46. Mrsb loves the Nats - Apr 27, 2015 at 7:55 PM

    I think he is out…

    • Ghost of Steve M. - Apr 27, 2015 at 7:56 PM

      Take that out. It wasn’t pretty but take the change in luck.

  47. Joe Seamhead - Apr 27, 2015 at 7:58 PM

    OK, I’ll say it. ALR doesn’t likely make that play and get the out. Yunel owes Ryan a dinner.

    • Ghost of Steve M. - Apr 27, 2015 at 8:02 PM

      Agreed. Scoops, yes. Plays like that, no. LaRoche had problems coming off the bag and making a swipe tag or jumping for the ball. Still, nobody better than ALR in the scoop.

  48. Ghost of Steve M. - Apr 27, 2015 at 7:59 PM

    Freeman with a bump & run single. I have tried that on the golf course.

  49. Ghost of Steve M. - Apr 27, 2015 at 7:59 PM

    There’s the grounders.

  50. Ghost of Steve M. - Apr 27, 2015 at 8:03 PM

    Bryce gets a lefty on lefty leadoff walk. That was nice.

  51. Ghost of Steve M. - Apr 27, 2015 at 8:04 PM

    I like that idea of hit & run. They did that once in Spring Training to perfection. Haven’t seen it since.

  52. Mrsb loves the Nats - Apr 27, 2015 at 8:08 PM

    I love Escobar….. seriously we got the better end of that trade…

  53. Mrsb loves the Nats - Apr 27, 2015 at 8:10 PM

    After that long at bat….. Desi goes in hacking…

  54. Ghost of Steve M. - Apr 27, 2015 at 8:10 PM

    Nats righthanders should be smashing this lefty.

  55. section309 - Apr 27, 2015 at 8:13 PM

    Bring up Taylor. Put Werth on the bench at least twice a week. He’s near useless these days.

  56. nats128 - Apr 27, 2015 at 8:14 PM

    Barves do the hit and run.

  57. Joe Seamhead - Apr 27, 2015 at 8:15 PM

    Wow,nice throw from Span!

  58. Joe Seamhead - Apr 27, 2015 at 8:18 PM

    I wasn’t near a radio, or TV today. Just heard that the O’s game was postponed due to violence in the streets. Sad state of affairs.

    • scnatsfan - Apr 27, 2015 at 8:20 PM

      Very

  59. knoxvillenat - Apr 27, 2015 at 8:20 PM

    Just a thought, is it possible that the NL hitters are catching up to or catching on to Fister after having seen him a full year now? Does seem like he is getting less ground ball outs this season.

    • Joe Seamhead - Apr 27, 2015 at 8:26 PM

      I think that a lot of his pitches are hanging up slightly higher in the zone. If he gets the ball down a little lower he tends to get a lot more ground balls. His velocity is a little lower, too.

  60. Ghost of Steve M. - Apr 27, 2015 at 8:23 PM

    Carp: Weighted Sleeve Night. They’re so heavy only the 1st 10 fans get them.

    Carp: (Chuckles to himself)

    Carp has delivered a few dud jokes tonight

  61. Ghost of Steve M. - Apr 27, 2015 at 8:24 PM

    Espi imitating JWerth there.

  62. Ghost of Steve M. - Apr 27, 2015 at 8:24 PM

    Nice Sac Bunt by Fister.

  63. Mrsb loves the Nats - Apr 27, 2015 at 8:24 PM

    I hope all the other RHB are taking notes from Danny E…

    😆 can’t believe I said that…

    • Ghost of Steve M. - Apr 27, 2015 at 8:26 PM

      The team is putting good wood on the ball and BABIP hasn’t helped the Nats. Look how close Esco came to hitting the chalk and all the CF bombs the Nats have hit.

  64. Mrsb loves the Nats - Apr 27, 2015 at 8:27 PM

    2nd time Span failed to move the runner…

  65. Ghost of Steve M. - Apr 27, 2015 at 8:28 PM

    2 chances to score the runner from 2nd and nothing happening. The Braves starter is not good and the Nats are not taking advantage.

  66. section309 - Apr 27, 2015 at 8:31 PM

    Werth refused to talk to the media after the NLDS. Now he brings his .475 OPS to the 3 hole. Shoulder will probably slow him all year. I predict a very poor year for him. Much rather see Taylor

  67. scnatsfan - Apr 27, 2015 at 8:31 PM

    Another freshly minted Cy Young candidate courtesy of our bats

    • Ghost of Steve M. - Apr 27, 2015 at 8:40 PM

      So far. Still more time to bash this guy.

  68. Mrsb loves the Nats - Apr 27, 2015 at 8:33 PM

    I hate Freddie Freeman… and I say that with love…

    • adcwonk - Apr 27, 2015 at 8:40 PM

      Well, he did help us out with the called strike 3!

      And arguing enough to get tossed!

      • adcwonk - Apr 27, 2015 at 8:42 PM

        (I meant called check/non-check strike 3 swing)

  69. Mrsb loves the Nats - Apr 27, 2015 at 8:36 PM

    Damn Escobar…

    • adcwonk - Apr 27, 2015 at 8:39 PM

      ESPN guys seem to be implying that Esco’s inexperience at 3rd cost him on that play — that he was all squared up making him an easy target for the runner. Drats . . . hope it’s just a small cut . . .

      • Ghost of Steve M. - Apr 27, 2015 at 8:41 PM

        What happened?

      • adcwonk - Apr 27, 2015 at 8:44 PM

        Pickoff attempt went by RZ. Runner tried to go all the way to third. The throw beat him by a step — but Ecso was positioned with one foot on either side of the bag, his glove in the midding (in front of the bag) waiting for the runner.

        The runner game in with a late slide aiming directly for the mitt (an easy target, and smart slide). Runner kicked the entire mitt off of Esco, spiking him in the hand or wrist. Esco had to leave the game.

      • Ghost of Steve M. - Apr 27, 2015 at 8:45 PM

        I saw that but didn’t see what happened to Escobar’s hand.

      • adcwonk - Apr 27, 2015 at 8:47 PM

        Viewers couldn’t see anything — ESPN talking heads said “he left with a cut on his hand”.

    • Joe Seamhead - Apr 27, 2015 at 8:44 PM

      That was a great slide by the runner.

  70. Mrsb loves the Nats - Apr 27, 2015 at 8:41 PM

    I thought that was dirty by Simmons…. and why was Freeman ejected?

    • Ghost of Steve M. - Apr 27, 2015 at 8:41 PM

      It wasn’t clean. He did that on purpose to take off his glove.

      • Joe Seamhead - Apr 27, 2015 at 8:47 PM

        Ghost, I coached kids to slide with their feet aimed at the mitt to try to get the defender to drop the ball. It wasn’t a dirty play. That’s what Taylor should have done on the play at the plate a couple of weeks ago when he came in standing up.

      • Ghost of Steve M. - Apr 27, 2015 at 8:49 PM

        Sure, and Simmons is a SS and paybacks are hell. You break a guys wrist doing that.

      • natsjackinfl - Apr 27, 2015 at 8:51 PM

        Gotta go with Joe on this one. I saw a good hard baseball play.

      • Ghost of Steve M. - Apr 27, 2015 at 8:53 PM

        Late slide and spikes up. Ty Cobb would be proud.

      • Joe Seamhead - Apr 27, 2015 at 8:55 PM

        Baseball players have been taught to do that since the beginning of time. Escobar was poorly positioned, in my opinion. I’m sorry he got hurt, but I don’t think that it was a dirty play by Simmons. He didn’t go at Yunel’s legs, he went for the glove and the ball.

    • adcwonk - Apr 27, 2015 at 8:49 PM

      Freeman ejected (between innings) for arguing his strike three. ‘Twas a close check (or not checked) swing. I’m sure he was p!ssed at the ump for not bothering to ask for a call from the 1b ump.

      • nattyboh - Apr 27, 2015 at 8:55 PM

        The third base coach was asked and punched him out, didn’t come from the HP ump.

      • adcwonk - Apr 27, 2015 at 9:13 PM

        Oh really? Thanks for the correction.

  71. Ghost of Steve M. - Apr 27, 2015 at 8:42 PM

    Sheesh. Werth smashing it right at the LF.

  72. nats128 - Apr 27, 2015 at 8:45 PM

    If Uggla hits a HR here, this will be fun.

  73. Mrsb loves the Nats - Apr 27, 2015 at 8:45 PM

    Disappointed we only have 1 run now against Stults..

  74. adcwonk - Apr 27, 2015 at 8:46 PM

    Drats — I was hoping Uggla would get something going, particularly in Barves stadium.

    Sigh . . .

    • Joe Seamhead - Apr 27, 2015 at 8:50 PM

      Uggla’s Reds to join a Wednesday night church league. Just go away.

      • Joe Seamhead - Apr 27, 2015 at 8:51 PM

        He needs to join a church league. He is done.

      • Karl Kolchak - Apr 27, 2015 at 8:51 PM

        I’d like to paraphrase what our GM once said about Daniel Cabrera:

        “I am REALLY tired of watching Uggla bat”

  75. natsjackinfl - Apr 27, 2015 at 8:49 PM

    Eric Stults spinning a nifty 3 hitter against the mighty Nats.

    • Ghost of Steve M. - Apr 27, 2015 at 8:52 PM

      Stults is getting hit hard and either the Barves are experts in positioning or the Nats have been very unlucky. BABIP should shift in the Nats favor.

  76. Ghost of Steve M. - Apr 27, 2015 at 8:50 PM

    Fister not getting the leadoff man out tonight.

  77. Ghost of Steve M. - Apr 27, 2015 at 8:53 PM

    Oh no. That didn’t just happen.

    • adcwonk - Apr 27, 2015 at 8:55 PM

      That pitch was at least six inches inside off the plate . . .

      As we’ve all been saying, and Mrsb just said it 4 minutes ago: Fister “Has not been down with consistency…”

  78. Mrsb loves the Nats - Apr 27, 2015 at 8:54 PM

    Whelp…. with the way things are going… thats the ball game…

  79. rlndtln - Apr 27, 2015 at 8:55 PM

    Thats the season.All you guys just do not get it.No pitching,no defense,no hitting equals last place,

    • adcwonk - Apr 27, 2015 at 8:58 PM

      If that’s the season, then there’s no reason to hang out here anymore, at least until next April, right?

      (Funny thing: on April 25, 2014, a poster declared that season over, too. I hope you are as prescient as he was)

      • Eugene in Oregon - Apr 27, 2015 at 9:05 PM

        May well be the same poster.

      • adcwonk - Apr 27, 2015 at 9:14 PM

        I wouldn’t be surprised if it is.

    • Karl Kolchak - Apr 27, 2015 at 9:05 PM

      With the 2 WC slots it is WAY too early to call it a season. But it is clearly obvious that this team in no way should be considered legitimate WS contenders. I believe that some of their players (RZ, JZ, Stras, Werth. Span) will bounce back and play better, but in retrospect this team was put together very poorly.

      Nearly 1/4th of the current roster (Johnson, Uggla, Robinson, Martin, Treinen, Moore) would have had a hard time making the 100-loss 2009 Nats, let alone this supposedly contending squad.

  80. snopes1 - Apr 27, 2015 at 8:56 PM

    You can argue until you’re blue in the face that that slide was clean, but I promise you no one on the Nats’ bench agrees with that. How long has it been since you’ve seen an MLB player shed blood from being spiked high?

    There will be retaliation. It won’t be tonight, most likely, but it will be Simmons who personally takes a shot (or shots).

    • adcwonk - Apr 27, 2015 at 9:00 PM

      Was it that high? His glove was only about six inches above the ground.

      If the fielder was off the bag, or the spikes were in the air, that’d be one thing. But in this case Esco’s mitt was about six inches off the ground right in front of the bag. Any runner would try to kick the ball out.

      • Joe Seamhead - Apr 27, 2015 at 9:16 PM

        Exactly right, Wonk.

    • scnatsfan - Apr 27, 2015 at 9:00 PM

      Take revenge tonight. Another lost night might as well and try to spark something. This team is as flat as a club soda left out all night.

  81. Mrsb loves the Nats - Apr 27, 2015 at 8:56 PM

    Are you kidding me…

  82. Ghost of Steve M. - Apr 27, 2015 at 8:57 PM

    And there guy gets down the suicide squeeze.

  83. Eric - Apr 27, 2015 at 8:59 PM

    http://sadtrombone.com/

  84. rlndtln - Apr 27, 2015 at 9:00 PM

    Thats the small ball we never play.

  85. knoxvillenat - Apr 27, 2015 at 9:00 PM

    After the Marlins series I didn’t think it could get uglier but apparently I am wrong.

  86. Mrsb loves the Nats - Apr 27, 2015 at 9:00 PM

    This is becoming a little embarassing and ridiculous… I keep thinking that the last game has to be rock bottom… then a new game comes and I see stuff that is baffling…

    • Ghost of Steve M. - Apr 27, 2015 at 9:04 PM

      Fister the great fielder with 2 errors.

      • adcwonk - Apr 27, 2015 at 9:06 PM

        And: Fister the great control pitcher walking the first batter of the game

        And Fister the low ball pitcher giving up a HR

        Yikes!!

      • Mrsb loves the Nats - Apr 27, 2015 at 9:06 PM

        The starting pitcher rotation outside of Scherzer has been real suspect… you know how I felt about the Scherzer signing… but im trying to understand what is going on….

        Fister has NOT been the Fister we know and expect…

      • Eugene in Oregon - Apr 27, 2015 at 9:11 PM

        Remember that Doug Fister’s 2014 was his career-best year, much as Gio Gonzalez’s 2012 was his career-best season. They’re both very good pitchers, but as Washington fans we (I’m as guilty as anyone) tended to assume that those years — their first with the Nats — were their respective norms.

  87. adcwonk - Apr 27, 2015 at 9:04 PM

    I’ll say one thing: the guy with the slighter higher voice on ESPN does seem to know what he’s talking about. He’s saying the same thing that most of the intellegent posters here are saying.

    He’s made three good points thus far:

    1. The Nats will certainly start to hit and field better — the hitters are too good and have too long of a track record not to get on track — both at the bat and in the field. And the Nats will be good when that starts to happen.

    2. But the Nats still have to be way of digging too deep of a hole before that happens.

    and, sigh, during the sixth, he said:

    3. This game has been an encapsulation of the Nats’ entire season thus far: not enough hitting and sloppy play on the field.

    I think he (who is he, btw? anybody know?) is 3-for-3 on those observations.

    • Eugene in Oregon - Apr 27, 2015 at 9:09 PM

      That sounds about right. Especially re not digging too deep a hole. Recall the 2nd half in 2013 when the Nats were playing the best baseball in the NL (and maybe all MLB) from about August 1 onwards, but…too late to overcome that deficit.

    • Karl Kolchak - Apr 27, 2015 at 9:09 PM

      He could add a 4th observation:

      No organizational depth. Their bench stinks and is unlikely to get any better, and other than Taylor there are no MLB ready position players waiting in the minors who are so far doing anything at AAA or AA.

      • adcwonk - Apr 27, 2015 at 9:15 PM

        Bench’s are rarely good for any team — that’s why they are bench.

        As for depth, I think we’re in better shape than many teams — players may not be as ready as Taylor, but a bunch of players may be a year behind him.

      • Karl Kolchak - Apr 27, 2015 at 9:26 PM

        Oh please, go on BR and look at the stats. Uggla .356 OPS, Johnson .353 OPS, Robinson .611 OPS, Moore .639 OPS, Lobaton .277 OPS. I defy you to find any other team with a bench as collectively bas as that.

  88. senators69 - Apr 27, 2015 at 9:11 PM

    Holy crap…I just tuned in. Bad gets worse???
    Escobar injured…
    Hope no substance behind Rendon being scratched…
    Errors…
    Fister struggling..
    Nats bats ~ quiet again…

    Where’s my ring….NO, actually, where’s MY trash can!

    Return to average??

  89. Mrsb loves the Nats - Apr 27, 2015 at 9:11 PM

    Caps up 1-0

    • adcwonk - Apr 27, 2015 at 9:18 PM

      Terrific. They’d been outshooting the Islanders, and finally got one in with 1:30 left in the 2d period.

      It’d be nice to see Wiz & Caps both make it.

      Conveniently for me: Nats are on my channel 56 and Caps on 57.

  90. Whynat - Apr 27, 2015 at 9:11 PM

    I for one will be sorely disappointed if Simmons doesn’t wear one in his next at bat.

    • manassasnatsfan - Apr 27, 2015 at 9:19 PM

      +3

  91. unkyd59 - Apr 27, 2015 at 9:14 PM

    Did Spinner just take a 9-pitch walk?!

    • adcwonk - Apr 27, 2015 at 9:16 PM

      Well, yes, but, he swung at pitches 5, 6, 7, and 8. (really!)

      • manassasnatsfan - Apr 27, 2015 at 9:20 PM

        Easy way to tell if he was hit was to look at his hand under the glove

  92. Mrsb loves the Nats - Apr 27, 2015 at 9:16 PM

    Don’t think it was worth a challenge..

    • Mrsb loves the Nats - Apr 27, 2015 at 9:18 PM

      Well nm then…. GREAT CALL BLUES…. *SNICKERS*

  93. Ghost of Steve M. - Apr 27, 2015 at 9:16 PM

    I hope this Martin is as bad as the JD Martin the Nats once had pitching.

  94. Ghost of Steve M. - Apr 27, 2015 at 9:17 PM

    What angle did the umps see? Didn’t come from the MASN broadcast.

  95. natslive - Apr 27, 2015 at 9:17 PM

    This team is hard to watch right now.

    • Ghost of Steve M. - Apr 27, 2015 at 9:18 PM

      It’s real easy. You don’t have to.

      • natslive - Apr 27, 2015 at 9:34 PM

        No I don’t have to but they are still my team so will watch and continue rooting for them. Doesn’t mean I have to like what I see. Didn’t say I wasn’t going to watch just that it was hard.

  96. Mrsb loves the Nats - Apr 27, 2015 at 9:17 PM

    PLEASE NO DOUBLE PLAY

    • Ghost of Steve M. - Apr 27, 2015 at 9:19 PM

      Good lift off on that one by Span.

      • manassasnatsfan - Apr 27, 2015 at 9:23 PM

        However down by 4 sac flies though OK, really is not what the doctor order.

        Then Zim swings out of shoes on an inside pitch, and stares at one he could drive to right field.

        Ray Knight said we had to quit being passive on the outside corner pitches and drive them to the corner. However our batters really seem totally uninterested in hitting to right.

      • Joe Seamhead - Apr 27, 2015 at 9:23 PM

        I wish that he could’ve gotten a line drive down either line. We needed a lot more than one run in that inning.

  97. Mrsb loves the Nats - Apr 27, 2015 at 9:22 PM

    Sigh…. bases were loaded…. with 1 out.. and only scored 1 run…

    Baby steps, right??? Or toddler steps, maybe…

  98. Ghost of Steve M. - Apr 27, 2015 at 9:22 PM

    Talk about chances. Bases loaded, 1 out, a rookie reliever whose stuff isn’t great.

    • scnatsfan - Apr 27, 2015 at 9:24 PM

      Everyone’s stuff is great against us right now

      • nats128 - Apr 27, 2015 at 9:26 PM

        A rookie reliever with 11 career innings.

      • Ghost of Steve M. - Apr 27, 2015 at 9:31 PM

        Sure feels that way.

  99. adcwonk - Apr 27, 2015 at 9:22 PM

    ESPN flashed a depressing stat — Nats are 0-10 when behind by 2 or more runs.

  100. manassasnatsfan - Apr 27, 2015 at 9:24 PM

    Great Martin did your job.

    • manassasnatsfan - Apr 27, 2015 at 9:26 PM

      Maybe a good brawl would wake us up. We have been sleeping all season.

  101. Mrsb loves the Nats - Apr 27, 2015 at 9:25 PM

    Totally different from Davey …

    • nats128 - Apr 27, 2015 at 9:26 PM

      Yep.

    • manassasnatsfan - Apr 27, 2015 at 9:26 PM

      We took care of business

      • Karl Kolchak - Apr 27, 2015 at 9:28 PM

        Then Desmond…almost as if on que.

      • knoxvillenat - Apr 27, 2015 at 9:35 PM

        No we didn’t. What we saw was a team that is losing in almost every conceivable way possible make a dumb play by deliberately throwing at a batter who previously made a good hard baseball play. As others pointed out earlier Simmons did nothing wrong on his slide into third base but rather Escobar was poorly positioned. I have no respect for whoever decided to throw at Simmons in that situation whether that be Williams, Martin or perhaps another player.

        just go out and play a clean ball game (for once) and win for a change.

    • rmoore446 - Apr 27, 2015 at 9:28 PM

      +1

    • adcwonk - Apr 27, 2015 at 9:29 PM

      And I think Davey would have been right on that.

      a) the slide was reasonable (all three espn guys thought so, fwiw)

      b) you’re behind by three, and he’s the leadoff guy

      • adcwonk - Apr 27, 2015 at 9:30 PM

        … and he ends up scoring

  102. adcwonk - Apr 27, 2015 at 9:26 PM

    snopes pretty much called it: There will be retaliation. It won’t be tonight, most likely, but it will be Simmons who personally takes a shot

  103. Mrsb loves the Nats - Apr 27, 2015 at 9:27 PM

    WTF desi… like dude…

    • manassasnatsfan - Apr 27, 2015 at 9:30 PM

      He has become a head case. Whrpen is some leader going to call for the team meeting.

      I was ticked when no one tweeted one occurred. I will ticked again tomorrow if one nit called.

      I want Schu fire and Ray Knight hired.

  104. manassasnatsfan - Apr 27, 2015 at 9:27 PM

    Damn it Desi, what the hell…. I thought you quit this crap, but obviously I was wrong.

    • Karl Kolchak - Apr 27, 2015 at 9:29 PM

      And thanks to Desmond, Simmons scores to get revenge for our getting revenge on him.

  105. Joe Seamhead - Apr 27, 2015 at 9:28 PM

    I am a hard core Nats fan, but intentional HBP when you’re down 5-2 to the lead off hitter is dumbassed baseball.

    • natslive - Apr 27, 2015 at 9:29 PM

      Agreed…..and now they score

    • adcwonk - Apr 27, 2015 at 9:31 PM

      +1

    • manassasnatsfan - Apr 27, 2015 at 9:31 PM

      The pitcher did his job twice. Hit Simmons then had a double play ball hut.

      How is that dumb?

  106. natslive - Apr 27, 2015 at 9:28 PM

    Just make the play……tailor made DP ball……come on Desi

  107. Mrsb loves the Nats - Apr 27, 2015 at 9:29 PM

    Imma call it quits tonight before I say a few expletives… cuz thr Nats are playing like straight poo…

    Yall have a good evening…

  108. Joe Seamhead - Apr 27, 2015 at 9:30 PM

    Now you’re down 6-2. Real smart. You really feel better, folks? Stupid baseball move.

    • Karl Kolchak - Apr 27, 2015 at 9:34 PM

      Given how the Braves have treated the Nats in recent years, I liked it…until Desmond blew the double play.

    • manassasnatsfan - Apr 27, 2015 at 9:34 PM

      Today again the hitter who have stunk will be blamed. We would need to score 7 tonight.

      We’re suppose to have the greatest starters ever, and we are giving up tons of runs.

  109. rmoore446 - Apr 27, 2015 at 9:31 PM

    These are hard games to watch. I’ve remained optimistic so far but the weight of this lifeless performance is wearing me out.

    • adcwonk - Apr 27, 2015 at 9:32 PM

      well . . . caps might prove to be a fun story tonight . . .

      • rmoore446 - Apr 27, 2015 at 9:35 PM

        That’s where I’ve switched but fear I may jinx them.

      • adcwonk - Apr 27, 2015 at 9:41 PM

        Well — one of us did! A dribbler though the legs and it’s 1-1

      • manassasnatsfan - Apr 27, 2015 at 9:47 PM

        I screwed up and cause the goalie to miss an easy one. Sorry, I will stay here and encourage us.

  110. adcwonk - Apr 27, 2015 at 9:32 PM

    yeesh . . . four errors

    • scnatsfan - Apr 27, 2015 at 9:33 PM

      Patience… still 3 more outs

  111. manassasnatsfan - Apr 27, 2015 at 9:35 PM

    3 unearned runs tonight.

  112. Ghost of Steve M. - Apr 27, 2015 at 9:35 PM

    Rafael Martin not helped by the error but also not pitching great.

  113. Allnats - Apr 27, 2015 at 9:38 PM

    I’ll always support this team. I’ll always look on the bright side. But this is painful and worrisome.

    • adcwonk - Apr 27, 2015 at 9:42 PM

      The bright side here . . . umm . . . we get to start at 0-0 in 21 more hours! 😉

  114. Steady Eddie - Apr 27, 2015 at 9:39 PM

    And the Isles just tie it up on a far too easy goal.

    When it rains….

  115. knoxvillenat - Apr 27, 2015 at 9:40 PM

    Aaron Boone and/or Mark Mulder on ESPN saying the Nats “….trying to make a statement” by hitting Simmons when the only statement that needs to be made is “……clean it up Washington”.

    EXACTLY!!

    • adcwonk - Apr 27, 2015 at 9:42 PM

      Exactly!

    • Joe Seamhead - Apr 27, 2015 at 9:46 PM

      +1
      I am not above retaliation pitches, but that was a very ill advised time to do it, for more than one reason. And you all that said Davey wouldn’t have called for it? You’re absolutely correct. Davey was a smarter than that.

  116. adcwonk - Apr 27, 2015 at 9:40 PM

    Hey Mrsb — if you’re still around — ESPN guy said: if you’re a Nats fan, you’re hoping that this game is the lowest of the low (presumably meaning, nowhere to go up from here)

  117. rlndtln - Apr 27, 2015 at 9:41 PM

    This team was favorite to win the world series.

  118. manassasnatsfan - Apr 27, 2015 at 9:43 PM

    Finally flipped to see the Caps, and immediately the Islanders tie it. Locker say goalie makes the play 99 out of 100 times, but of course 3rd period of a game 7 he doesn’t.

    I do believe DCTeams have some kind of curse, but believe if the players wanted it bad enough they would wipe the curse away.

  119. manassasnatsfan - Apr 27, 2015 at 9:44 PM

    Werth swinging at a ball a foot inside, tell me he is concentrating.

    I am convinced they are concentrating to the maximum limit.

  120. manassasnatsfan - Apr 27, 2015 at 9:47 PM

    Little league homer for Uggla

  121. AlexandriaNatFan - Apr 27, 2015 at 9:48 PM

    Man…if this thing turns around as a result of a triple by Uggla of all people…I will eat my shirt.

  122. Ghost of Steve M. - Apr 27, 2015 at 9:48 PM

    That’s what I’m talking about. Their Martin also isn’t very good.

  123. Ghost of Steve M. - Apr 27, 2015 at 9:49 PM

    Desi took a walk!

  124. Joe Seamhead - Apr 27, 2015 at 9:49 PM

    Happy for Uggla’s, but I still think he should retire. Maybe the Nats can get back into this game yet.

    • AlexandriaNatFan - Apr 27, 2015 at 9:59 PM

      Maybe…but I was more referencing this “whole thing” meaning their play overall.

  125. manassasnatsfan - Apr 27, 2015 at 9:50 PM

    Did you notice ball on the outer half and Uggla drove it right center. It is exactly what I have asked all these guys to do, an most prefer to oullbthe ball, Almost always an out when you do that.

    It us not rocket science to hit the outer half pitches away, but mist our hitters are bone headed about it.

  126. manassasnatsfan - Apr 27, 2015 at 9:51 PM

    My cap app says we have 25 shots to their 10. Yet still tied. Sounds very Nats like.

  127. manassasnatsfan - Apr 27, 2015 at 9:53 PM

    Desi running is better than fielding.

  128. scnatsfan - Apr 27, 2015 at 9:54 PM

    Caps goal

    • manassasnatsfan - Apr 27, 2015 at 10:00 PM

      Thanks I was barred from watching after the Isle’s goal

  129. dryw4nats - Apr 27, 2015 at 9:55 PM

    Is it just me, or was Desi’s slide not AT ALL like Simmons’? Desi went in late and hard, but his spikes weren’t up. It just looked a lot cleaner to me. But I’ve never played baseball, so I could easily just be a homer here.

    • AlexandriaNatFan - Apr 27, 2015 at 9:58 PM

      I played and I agree with you. Simmons’ slide may have been “clean” but still dangerous in my mind…and totally unnecessary. Desmond’s was hard, had the same sort of effect and it was safe.

    • Joe Seamhead - Apr 27, 2015 at 9:58 PM

      Desi’s slide I was good baseball, too.

  130. manassasnatsfan - Apr 27, 2015 at 9:58 PM

    Well 4 earned runs each.

  131. manassasnatsfan - Apr 27, 2015 at 10:02 PM

    Barrett can’t we get a clean inning out of you any more?

  132. robertrobert104 - Apr 27, 2015 at 10:06 PM

    The Nationals celebrate their 10th anniversary, and they are still a last place team! For whatever reason, nothing work well for them this tear. Injury is not an excuse, every team has injured players. Since the start of the season, fans saw a team without any kind of emotions on the field, nothing seems really bothering them. I like Zimmerman a lot, but he is not a first baseman. They don’t have a good second baseman who can hit, Rendon is not there of course, Desmond play poorly and want to hit a grand slam at each plate presence. Werth is lost, and useless. Span is ok and Harper is…Harper. Pitching is inconstent, bullpen is a big question mark this year and Matt Williams seems really like sunflower seeds….but lack of I don’t know what exactly, maybe a good baseball playbook. Today, we saw the Braves try the squeeze and it worked! The Nats, in the same situation, will try for the long ball. They don’t play good baseball, the don’t hit, can’t play defense or at least, be succesfull in basic plays. Is there’s anyone out there who believe this team will win this year? I still follow this team, they are my team but I think that we, the fans, will suffer a lot in 2015…..

    • manassasnatsfan - Apr 27, 2015 at 10:12 PM

      MW is clueless how to okay small ball at all.

      3 for 9 in stolen base attempts. Completely not interested in running, and when you are not hitting, and leading the league in k, you have to run. We don’t bother.

  133. manassasnatsfan - Apr 27, 2015 at 10:06 PM

    Why did Werth throw home with no cutoff man. That is just dumb.

  134. texnat1 - Apr 27, 2015 at 10:07 PM

    weak throw by werth and espi fails to set up as cut off man

    • manassasnatsfan - Apr 27, 2015 at 10:13 PM

      The cut off was MIA

  135. Joe Seamhead - Apr 27, 2015 at 10:08 PM

    Caps win!

  136. rlndtln - Apr 27, 2015 at 10:10 PM

    8 runs,,13 hits by a Braves team that can not hit and is a team that traded all there hitters.MW must go.

    • manassasnatsfan - Apr 27, 2015 at 10:14 PM

      Seems our players all of them need to look at the back of the baseball card and start playing to that number.

  137. Ghost of Steve M. - Apr 27, 2015 at 10:15 PM

    Span goes from 3-0 to a K.

  138. manassasnatsfan - Apr 27, 2015 at 10:16 PM

    Span not interested in swinging, takes all 6 pitches.

    That is simply not aggressive okay. Strike three was drivable.

  139. texnat1 - Apr 27, 2015 at 10:18 PM

    In fairness, that was ball 4 to Span, and what the Nats needed there were baserunners, not for him to drive the ball.

  140. manassasnatsfan - Apr 27, 2015 at 10:20 PM

    Who is calling the meeting, should ha been calked after Saturday’s game at the latest.

    What are they waiting for?

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