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Beltway Baseball: What will ’14 rotation look like?

Oct 11, 2013, 12:44 PM EDT

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The Nationals once again enter an offseason with questions in the back of their rotation. The last two seasons they have signed veteran pitchers to one-year deals, opting for experience rather than promoting from within.

With Dan Haren unlikely to return, how will the Nats fill his spot? And with Ross Detwiler’s disappointing 2013 season, are there two openings to fill?

Mark and I discussed those questions and a lot more – including whether the Nats should be interested in David Price – in this episode of Beltway Baseball.

Check it out right here:

  1. Faraz Shaikh - Oct 11, 2013 at 2:12 PM

    I think there are enough veteran guys out there that you can bring in someone for one-year deal and help out the kids in rotation. Kuroda, Burnett, halladay, hudson, kazmir, jimenez, etc. I would like to get someone from division rival but I think they all come with some issues (such as Halladay or Hudson). i like Jimenez a lot but he might price himself out of our range (especially in years, not so much in dollars). and Rizzo, please try to be active in asian market.

    • pdowdy83 - Oct 11, 2013 at 3:15 PM

      I would have interest in Hudson on a 1 or 2 year deal. He was dealing before he had the ankle injury. Burnett said only Pittsburgh or retirement. Kuroda seems to be similar with prefering either the Yankees or west coast/retirement but he would be a good get for a 1 year deal. Kazmir couldn’t go more than 5 innings most of the time this year so thats a red flag for me. Halladay has had back to back sub par seasons so he probably isn’t worth it. Jiminez reminds me of Edwin Jackson too much and like you said he will probably price himself out lengthwise. I could go for Scott Feldman on a reasonable deal but someone is probably going to give him a Jeremy Guthrie deal which would be an overpay. I would also look into Bronson Arroyo if he is on a 1 or 2 year deal. He gets the job done even though his stuff doesn’t look like it would.

      I would keep my eye on Homer Bailey of the Reds and Brett Anderson of the A’s as trade targets. Anderson is a huge injury question mark but we have the depth now that getting 15 starts out of him and having to turn to someone else for 15 would be worth it possibly. Not sure the A’s will want to keep carrying his contract at this point. The Reds may need to free up some money this offseason and Bailey is in his last year of arbitration. He would be a nice fit behind the big 3.

    • jd - Oct 11, 2013 at 4:46 PM

      I don’t think any of these guys are guaranteed to out pitch Jordan and Roark. I think I’ve seen enough of other people’s sloppy seconds.

  2. Theophilus T.S. - Oct 11, 2013 at 3:25 PM

    There are two openings. One goes to Detwiler if he’s healthy. If Detwiler is healthy (I know, big “if”) then Rizzo will be tempted to cobble together a no. 5 from Roark, Taylor, Karns (in that order). I’ve suggested before he might stroll thru the M*A*S*H* units and see who can be stashed at Syracuse long enough to get healthy. There are very few FAs. If there is an issue w/ Detwiler’s health going into ST then Rizzo has to sign someone to put his thumb in the dike until at least July.

    • Theophilus T.S. - Oct 11, 2013 at 3:26 PM

      “very few FAs who would accept a one-year deal who are worth having”

      • Ghost of Steve M. - Oct 11, 2013 at 4:07 PM

        Agreed, easier said then done. Still wish Rizzo was looking more mid-term last year and got Lohse over the riskier Haren. As they say, you get what you pay for. Haren was a 1 year and Lohse was looking 3 years although less on a per year basis and now Rizzo will once again be looking for a back of the rotation.

        I think Detwiler’s health is the key. If he is fine, I think you have your rotation and can spend the cash on extensions and a top outfielder, the bench and the bullpen.

      • pdowdy83 - Oct 12, 2013 at 10:24 AM

        Hindsights 20/20. I remember a lot of people (not lumping you into that category Ghost) saying they were very leery of signing Lohse to more than a 1 year contract. Haden’s track record was also better than Loshe’s. Rizzo gambled and it backfired but I think just as many people expected Lohse to start imploding last year too. I was for Lohse too but I will admit I thought the Haren signing was a good gamble. The real problem was they didn’t get out from under it quick enough when he was pitching terribly.

  3. jd - Oct 11, 2013 at 4:48 PM

    On the other hand if you can put together a package for David Price which does not include Rendon I’m all for that.

    • kirbs3256 - Oct 11, 2013 at 6:32 PM

      I agree…..But only if Rizzo does the trade and sign deal like we did with Gio. I would not want to give up top prospects for a rental. But my off season priorties:

      2-Extend J. Zimm
      3-Real lefty bullpen help-not the Zack Duke disaster
      4-Extend Dezzi
      5-Get that bench set…do we all agree that we arn’t paying Harrison the couple mil or is he worth it?
      6-figure out if 5 starter is in house or a trade package.

      But my god, Stras, GIo, Zim, Price is super scary. Talk about making a run with pitching in the post season. ALL WE NEED IS 3 RUNS.

      • pdowdy83 - Oct 12, 2013 at 10:17 AM

        Realistically speaking, if James Shields cost Will Myers and Jake Odorrizi plus 2 others that would be the equivalent of at least Anthony Rendon, AJ Cole and 2 others. Maybe they would do Goodwin, Giolito plus 2 but Price is not coming to DC without the team really having to cough up a lot.

        He may be worth it but for only 2 guaranteed years I am not sure I would do it. The other problem is there is NO way he signs a Gio like extension. When we got Gio he had 2 solid years under his belt and Cole Hamels hadn’t signed his massive extension. Price has a CY young and is much more in line for a Cole Hamels deal than a Gio deal and if the team wants to keep guys like Desmond and Harper long term I don’t see them committing $150m to Price but man would it be sweet to have him.

  4. depotmaster - Oct 12, 2013 at 3:17 AM

    My ideal situation? Package some young arms to TB for Price and hire Kazmir. Let Kazmir and Det compete for 5th starter, and whichever doesn’t make it is your long man (Det) or lefty specialist (Kazmir).





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